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I have been looking online to sync my s620 with my macbook, but I can't seem to get it to work...
Does anyone know if there is a program or anything to sync with mac?
thanks all
Missing Sync for Windows Mobile
The Missing Sync is your answer
Good thing you've decided to get into this now, and not a few months ago. Recently, The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile 4 (MS4) came out, which introduced support for Windows Mobile 6. It's got a slew of nice features, including SMS/MMS logging, importing pictures into iPhoto (though I haven't figured out how to make it work yet), video conversion, and folder synchronization. Also, it uses SyncML (Apple calls it "Sync Services") so you get the nice "more than 5% changes" notifications you get when you use iSync.
My biggest problems with Missing Sync is that it can be a little unstable and/or slow, fortunately it's very modular, so if a single component fails (which is actually quite rare) it doesn't affect the rest of the program. BlueTooth syncing with a removable BlueTooth module. But I'm thinking that this is due to the unique nature of using a USB BlueTooth module for a non-system protocol. I'm sure if you have a built-in BlueTooth module, you'll be fine. I also have an occasional problem where, while syncing the calendar, I get a notice that some large number of events in my calendar have been deleted (always more than 5%), but usually telling it not to sync the calendar, then syncing again takes care of the problem. It's relatively minor, when you consider that there is an pretty easy work-around.
The other thing isn't so much a problem with Missing Sync, but rather limitations of existing technologies. MS4 can't extract CABs from installers (EXE or MSI), though there are other tools to do that (cabextract, File Juicer), but even they have limited success. You also can't install firmware upgrades, so you better have an emulation (VirtualPC and Q come to mind), virtualization (Parallels Desktop or VMware Fusion) Windows API (Wine) or a Windows PC for that kind of stuff. Actually, now that I think about it, Q is incapable of performing firmware upgrades since it doesn't have USB mapping implemented yet, but if you don't want to spend money on VirtualPC (I don't blame you) and you want to support the open source community (besides Steve Baller and Bill Gates, who doesn't?), keep an eye on it.
Otherwise, I don't regret my purchase at all, and it makes WM5/WM6 syncing completely viable on a Mac. Now if only Microsoft would pick up on some of MS4's features for ActiveSync...
This is huge for me. With my older WM phones I was able to do a bluetooth file transfer of appointments (.ics files) and contacts (.vcf) from my computer (Macbook Pro) to my phone and it would ask me to as to add it to calendar/contacts directly. Now with this Tilt 2 it asks me to save it to My Documents and not to the application directly. Is there a way to turn on the saving to the application directly?
The other ROMs I've used had a "Beam" icon in the Settings -> Connections menu. No such luck in the ATT ROM. Anyone know what was executed bu the "Beam" icon on the other ROMs?
It's not their b/c as far as I am aware the Tilt2/TP2 do not have Infrared transceivers which is what the 'Beam' function uses to transfer the data.
ScubaSteve20001 said:
It's not their b/c as far as I am aware the Tilt2/TP2 do not have Infrared transceivers which is what the 'Beam' function uses to transfer the data.
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I understand that. But that needed to be enabled to allow incoming bluetooth calendar and contact transfers. I'm just trying to figure out to get this thing to transfer directly to my calendar and contacts. If I can't figure this out the device is going back to AT&T. This is a showstopper for me.
you can 'beam' over bluetooth. On the TP2 there are advanced bluetooth settings that do it really easily. Just go to connections - bluetooth and you sohuld see them but they made a nice app to share everything.
I did all that and it does allow me to transfer the file. But it goes to storage instead of opening the appropriate application. If I transferred a .ics file my old Tilt would ask me if I wanted to add it to my calendar. If I sent a .vcf it would ask to add it to my Contacts. This Tilt2 doesn't do that. It only wants to file in to storage. I need the Tilt2 to open the appropriate application.
Why the does it replace my newer excel spreadsheets during a sync? After I sync it, I would open the file from the pda, make changes and save it. But during the save, excel mobile prompts me that the file format is unsupported. If I save and sync it, it will get overwritten with the older file on my desktop.
I'm using Excel 2003 in Vistax64 and have FileFormatConverters.exe installed.
in windows mobile device center there is a setting for this situation which one to overwrite if changes happened. if you change documents a lot on the go, you should set the blueangel as priority device to overwrite the desktop documents. check the settings in "mobile device settings" -> "manage a partnership" and then set "replace items on desktop" then, whenever there is a conflict like that, the BA gets the priority.
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in windows mobile device center there is a setting for this situation which one to overwrite if changes happened. if you change documents a lot on the go, you should set the blueangel as priority device to overwrite the desktop documents. check the settings in "mobile device settings" -> "manage a partnership" and then set "replace items on desktop" then, whenever there is a conflict like that, the BA gets the priority.
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Too risky for me. If I lose everything in my pda, which happens once in awhile, it will overwrite everything in my desktop with nothing. Theoretically, it should sync things, but I could have sworn it once erased contacts and appointments on my desktop.
Chef_Tony said:
in windows mobile device center there is a setting for this situation which one to overwrite if changes happened. if you change documents a lot on the go, you should set the blueangel as priority device to overwrite the desktop documents. check the settings in "mobile device settings" -> "manage a partnership" and then set "replace items on desktop" then, whenever there is a conflict like that, the BA gets the priority.
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I gave it a shot again and switched it to "replace items on desktop" and it deleted half of my templates such as memo.
normally, it should only make use of this option when a file was changed on the pc and the device. since it cannot "combine" the files or compare their content, it needs to know, which one to overwrite. it should not affect deleting.
the situation you described in your prior post is risky, like you said. my standard setting is "replace on the desktop" and i.e. when i hard reset my device and there is no pim data on it, it still does not delete everything in outlook because there is no conflict. it is still syncing and not a one way street, which is why in that case it should transfer new items to the device.
i hope, since you said before, it was risky, that you made backups of those files, or that you can at least restore an earlier version using volume shadow copies.
as i said before, activesync/wmdc is not perfect and behaves strangely sometimes. maybe there is no official solution for that problem. maybe you need to bypass it.
if, for instance, you know, that a file you have on the BA is newer than the server version, you could start a manual file transfer and not sync that file/folder, but overwrite it, either cradled, or using the sd card or a bluetooth share, a lan share, accessible with wi-fi or gprs with vpn, whatever data connection comes to mind.
or maybe, some other user reading this can come up with a good idea. i am sorry that my advice did not work but instead possibly harmed your pim data. i personally don't sync files and never had troubles with syncing in general. that option always worked for me.
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...i hope, since you said before, it was risky, that you made backups of those files, or that you can at least restore an earlier version using volume shadow copies.
as i said before, activesync/wmdc is not perfect and behaves strangely sometimes. maybe there is no official solution for that problem. maybe you need to bypass it.
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Yes, I always have backups in my desktop and storage card.
I think the problem with "replace items on the device" is with Excel 2003 compatibility issues between the desktop and Excel Mobile. Not sure how to get around this but to constantly keep backups on my SD card before a sync.
I'm guessing (hoping?) that the current WP7 solution for transmitting stuff on and from the phone can not be the final concept. Its fine for now, as a workaround to send e.g. word and pdfs files per email onto your phone and vice versa, but forever? There must be a better solution.
I think the best solution is either through zune or through a dedicated folder plus mass storage mode.
An other program (and I include outlook) is a really bad idea in my opinion because users don't want to open more than one program to sync their phones.
Zune is a little bit awkward because its the dedicated Music/ Pictures/ Vids Part of your Phone. If everything would be synced through zune it would break with the separation that Microsoft build with the different hubs.
What do you think - where will Microsoft go with this topic? And does anybody know how Apple solved this with their iPhones?
001mic said:
I'm guessing (hoping?) that the current WP7 solution for transmitting stuff on and from the phone can not be the final concept. Its fine for now, as a workaround to send e.g. word and pdfs files per email onto your phone and vice versa, but forever? There must be a better solution.
I think the best solution is either through zune or through a dedicated folder plus mass storage mode.
An other program (and I include outlook) is a really bad idea in my opinion because users don't want to open more than one program to sync their phones.
Zune is a little bit awkward because its the dedicated Music/ Pictures/ Vids Part of your Phone. If everything would be synced through zune it would break with the separation that Microsoft build with the different hubs.
What do you think - where will Microsoft go with this topic? And does anybody know how Apple solved this with their iPhones?
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The fastest way would be Zune and Bluetooth send/receive.
It's necessary to have it to stay with the platform.
Skydrive and Mesh is almost certainly where they're headed. I'd be extremely surprised if Zune ever supported Office file transfers.
The cloud, nothing is faster than the cloud.
Edit a file on your desktop and it updates on all devices.
Need to share a file? Just share the link.
Cloud synchronization will be the norm.
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Jeffgeno beat me to it.
nothing is faster than cloud??? crazy.... upload to cloud and download to phone or upload direct from PC to phone.. which faster??? and safety??? upload confidential file to skydrive??? more crazy.....
We need a place to sync outlook files but aside from that what other files do you want on your device.... they're not necessary... I dont really wanna set up this whole cloud business
Cloud is great but in many scenarios IDIOTIC.
To put a doc on my phone I need 2 devices with connection - PC and phone. Sick!
And it's the first time I can't send anything by bluetooth to any other dumphone or phone without any data transfer. Sick too.
Right, let's just clear this up shall we?
Currently there are several methods of getting a file such as an Excel spreadsheet onto your phone.
1. Email it to yourself, then open and save the attachment on your phone.
2. Use the Live Mesh sync included with Windows Essentials to sync your excel files to Skydrive. Then navigate to your Skydrive on your phone and download the file(s) you need from there to your phone.
3. Download and run one of the many small free Webserver apps on your PC. then you can serve your files over your home network and download them to your phone just by browsing to your mini website.
I don't use 1, I tend to use 2 and occasionally 3 as some apps like 7Pass (a password manager) use web servers to obtain the (in this case a password) file from your PC.
The way forward will actually, IMHO be 2. But instead of navigating to your skydrive in a browser, it will become a native function, just like it is now with OneNote. The kind of instant two-way sync that OneNote has will be replicated for Word, Excel and Powerpoint, and possibly for any other types of file as well, which will hopefully allow any app to obtain its own filetype over Skydrive and indeed sync with it.
I'm optimistic this will happen in the update coming soon, but it might wait until the fall.
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The way forward will actually, IMHO be 2. But instead of navigating to your skydrive in a browser, it will become a native function, just like it is now with OneNote. The kind of instant two-way sync that OneNote has will be replicated for Word, Excel and Powerpoint, and possibly for any other types of file as well, which will hopefully allow any app to obtain its own filetype over Skydrive and indeed sync with it.
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I think this is the best way to go and hope microsoft will do it like that sooner or later.
I understand that and it's a valid point.
I too would like to have the possibility to sync files _without_ having any network connection because sometimes there simply is no network or you're in a foreign country...So hopefully there will be a way microsoft makes this possible.
But besides of that, syncing over cloud is important for me at least as long as i am at home or something.
I use a combination of email, DropBox and Skydrive, I would love to have the ability to sync directly with Outlook since my company doesn't have Exchange or if they had a sync tool like Google that will update your calendar through the cloud.
On a side note how do you save a PDF that I emailed to myself? I tried to open and save as and it doesn't give me that option.
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I use a combination of email, DropBox and Skydrive, I would love to have the ability to sync directly with Outlook since my company doesn't have Exchange or if they had a sync tool like Google that will update your calendar through the cloud.
On a side note how do you save a PDF that I emailed to myself? I tried to open and save as and it doesn't give me that option.
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Once you open it it's automatically saved to the phone.
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I too would like to have the possibility to sync files _without_ having any network connection because sometimes there simply is no network or you're in a foreign country...
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Er, if there's no network connection or you're in a foreign country, then you would just be using the locally cached copy of the file, until you either returned home or entered an area with coverage, at which point your phone would sync up.
The point is, your phone would be syncing on-the-fly whenever it could, and using local cache whenever it couldn't sync. Strikes me as the best of both worlds.
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Er, if there's no network connection or you're in a foreign country, then you would just be using the locally cached copy of the file, until you either returned home or entered an area with coverage, at which point your phone would sync up.
The point is, your phone would be syncing on-the-fly whenever it could, and using local cache whenever it couldn't sync. Strikes me as the best of both worlds.
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Okay, thanks for explaining. I didn't know that.
Well then it's good news. Except you will have to stop your phone from syncing when roaming. But i assume, that is possible? (couldnt test it out)
I'm not offended. I don't think no one else is either.
Its silly that they provide you with a cord for media, but that same cord is useless for one of the other touted features.
Guys, please keep this thread on topic, and quit with the bad language. Swearing is not tolerated on xda.
I'm going to assume that the integration will be more advanced and full soon... The whole point of this device is to utilize live functions... Like SkyDrive
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Your talking about from phone to PC right? I think MS should give an option to allow an adjustable amount of your phone's memory to be used for USB mass storage functionality. Like make a slide saying, Maybe I want 2GB available, or maybe 20mb. You know to copy file formats WP7 supports. Atleast for what you can't sync via Zune Desktop software.
Hey guys,
Just received my HTC 7 Pro today.
So far i am liking the device and the OS, but one thing is annoying me:
- The first Windows Live ID you configure will sync all your contacts etc.
All of the Windows live contacts are added to the phone's contact list (which is rediculous because i talk to people on Windows Live which i have never even met IRL.....).
Is there any way to exclude the contacts from my list and still keep the Windows Live ID account? (of course i do want to keep the marketplace features etc).
I read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847139
But that didn't really solve the problem either.
The deeper problem is that i have a Windows mobile 6 phone which i want to sync up with this one. But if all contacts would be in 1 list i would end up with around 300 contacts......
Have many people here bit the bullet and finetuned their real-life phone contact list with Windows Live / Facebook?
If so, what was the easiest way to sort it all out?
Thanks in advance.
PS.
I think if MS would have just used the contact groups/categories settings (which you can set in Windows live messenger) all would have been fine.
An option to hide or always 'fold' and show certain groups at the bottom would have solved this entire issue (which a lot of ppl seem to have).
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Hey guys,
Just received my HTC 7 Pro today.
So far i am liking the device and the OS, but one thing is annoying me:
- The first Windows Live ID you configure will sync all your contacts etc.
All of the Windows live contacts are added to the phone's contact list (which is rediculous because i talk to people on Windows Live which i have never even met IRL.....).
Is there any way to exclude the contacts from my list and still keep the Windows Live ID account? (of course i do want to keep the marketplace features etc).
I read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847139
But that didn't really solve the problem either.
The deeper problem is that i have a Windows mobile 6 phone which i want to sync up with this one. But if all contacts would be in 1 list i would end up with around 300 contacts......
Have many people here bit the bullet and finetuned their real-life phone contact list with Windows Live / Facebook?
If so, what was the easiest way to sort it all out?
Thanks in advance.
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I already used my Windows Live account to organize all my contacts and emails and such before I got my windows Phone, so this was not an issue for me.
Unfortunately you cannot disable contact sync'ing from Windows Live, but you can filter your contact list in the People hub. So you can hide them, but they'll still be sync'd in the background.
The only real workaround if you don't to hide your Windows Live contacts would be to actually go and organize your Windows Live contacts so that they are useful.... or delete them all. XD
Hmm, i might be able to live with the hide option but can't seem to find it anywhere. Is it a mango beta feature?
Da_maniaC said:
Hmm, i might be able to live with the hide option but can't seem to find it anywhere. Is it a mango beta feature?
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I am on Mango, but I'm pretty sure you could always filter out contacts since the beginning of Windows Phone. Though to be honest, i don't know if you could filter out Windows Live contacts before Mango.
Look in Settings > People, then there should be an option titled 'filter my contact list' or something similar. If its not there, then i guess its a Mango-only thing.
I had similar experience like this when I was using windows mobile and synced it with my hotmail... It synced all my email addresses I ever sent an email to, to my phonebook... I knew something like this could happen again with windows phone again... So I created a new live id just for my phone with no contacts and anything . I only use Google contacts and calendar and my live id is only for SkyDrive ...
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I am on Mango, but I'm pretty sure you could always filter out contacts since the beginning of Windows Phone. Though to be honest, i don't know if you could filter out Windows Live contacts before Mango.
Look in Settings > People, then there should be an option titled 'filter my contact list' or something similar. If its not there, then i guess its a Mango-only thing.
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All i see when i go to Settings > People is:
- Sort names by
- Display names by
- Accounts
So, how hard is it to obtain the latest Mango update?
Also, is there an easy way to import old text messages from WM 6 to WP7?
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I am on Mango, but I'm pretty sure you could always filter out contacts since the beginning of Windows Phone. Though to be honest, i don't know if you could filter out Windows Live contacts before Mango.
Look in Settings > People, then there should be an option titled 'filter my contact list' or something similar. If its not there, then i guess its a Mango-only thing.
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Didn't even realize they added that feature, nice
Da_maniaC said:
All i see when i go to Settings > People is:
- Sort names by
- Display names by
- Accounts
So, how hard is it to obtain the latest Mango update?
Also, is there an easy way to import old text messages from WM 6 to WP7?
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Yeah looks like this is a Mango only feature. That check mark for Facebook contacts that's currently in the NoDo release of Windows Phone 7 turns into a button that lets you filter contacts from multiple sources (Twitter, Facebook, Windows Live, etc.). So I guess you aren't gonna see that feature till Mango. Sorry.
Text messages cannot be imported to Windows Phone 7, and they cannot be exported from Windows Phone at all.
If you are a dev, you can get Mango very easily. But if you aren't, there are some methods around here on XDA you can use. Only problem it, when the real Mango comes out this fall, you have to go back to your current version of Windows Phone (which is gonna a couple months old backup by the time Mango comes out) before you can update to the final release of Mango. Just part of the fact that this is beta and really not meant for daily use (even though it far exceeds the quality of a typical beta product).
Thanks for the info man.
So, if i wait for mango i wouldnt have the roll-back issues, since right before the update the phones state will be backed up?
One more small question:
Does Windows Phone even read/handle SIM contacts (haven't had a SIM in the phone yet)?
If not i'll just update my Windows Live contact list till its current and start using it (untill Mango comes out and i can filter/hide the contacts i don't wish to see).
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Thanks for the info man.
So, if i wait for mango i wouldnt have the roll-back issues, since right before the update the phones state will be backed up?
One more small question:
Does Windows Phone even read/handle SIM contacts?
If not i'll just update my Windows Live contact list till its current and start using it (untill Mango comes out and i can filter/hide the contacts i don't wish to see).
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Yes, if you wait for the official release, then you will only need to update your phone once Mango officially comes out. All your settings will be retained and your phone will be backed up as part of the update process.
Windows Phone 7 can import your SIM contacts from the settings > people menu (you should see a button to import SIM contacts). But it does not display any contacts stored from your SIM. Once you import your SIM contacts, they get copied to your Windows Live account.
yup
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Hmmm, i put in my SIM card etc. The network is working fine, but the option to "add SIM contacts" is greyed out and i can't select it.
Any ideas?
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Hmmm, i put in my SIM card etc. The network is working fine, but the option to "add SIM contacts" is greyed out and i can't select it.
Any ideas?
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If the option is greyed out, its because your SIM has no contacts to import. Or maybe they are in some foreign format from some unknown device? Not sure. I have some junk SIM contacts that T-Mobile put into my phone, and they import fine when I press the button.
You sure the SIM card has contacts?
Hey,
I am positive the SIM has contact information since my other phone (HTC Touch Pro / WM 6.1) recognises them.
There are around 60 contacts on there or so...
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Hey,
I am positive the SIM has contact information since my other phone (HTC Touch Pro / WM 6.1) recognises them.
There are around 60 contacts on there or so...
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Not sure then. If the option is greyed out, it means Windows Phone does not see any contacts on the SIM card. In which case, I cannot help you with that. Maybe plug the SIM into a different non-WP7 device, and try to clear out the SIM and then re-copy your contacts to the SIM? Not sure if that'll help.
u can't prevent sync of contacts in the primary live account on pre mango wp7, this is why I created a new live account,imported my contacts to it and then added that new live id first when I got my windows phone so if u hadn't really done anything important id recommend performing a hard reset then re-sync with the new live account. or install the mango beta.
I think i might have a solution here:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-phone-7/9a27ca98-45ac-423e-ba42-0682e001676a
It will mean i'll have to sort out my double contacts for a while (but mehhh...)