Just have look at my post at Mobile-Files.com
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Just have look at my post at Mobile-Files.com
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what could one possibly change an esn for?
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what could one possibly change an esn for?
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I would have to say it is for emergency use only since cloning an ESN is highly ILLEGAL.
2 examples of this kind of emergency:
You are a Sprint customer and you have an older device, say a 6700 or Mogul, and you want to buy a Touch but do not want to extend your contract so you buy a new Touch on eBay only to find out that the ESN is bad or black listed or something like that. You are now royally PI$$ED because your new investment turns out to be a waste of your money and an expensive paperweight.
Another example of this coming into use: You already have a Touch with Sprint but you, like me, have the worst luck in existence and dropped your very expensive investment in the toilet while relieving yourself. You try as hard as you can to get it to work again but like I said, your luck sucks and the device just won't power back on. You buy a new Touch on eBay only to find out the ESN is bad and you got royally fu**ed by whoever sold you the phone because now you can't get a hold of this person and eBay won't do anything.
This is when this comes in handy. Now you can clone your 6700, Mogul, or Touch's ESN to your new phone with the bad ESN so that now it has a good clean ESN. Be careful with this though. If Sprint ever found out you did this you could be prosecuted and lose your right to own a wireless phone for a long time, regardless of carrier.
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what could one possibly change an esn for?
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The main reason anyone is going to want to do this is to steal other customer's ESNs and their phone number, and thus.... FREE CELL PHONE USAGE!!!
The other thing that happens, if you steal another person's ESN and phone number, you can receive all of the calls that are placed to their cell phone.
This isn't the 90's
If you clone a phone as soon as both phones register in the HLR with two different locations they will be flagged as fraud.
The main thing this is good for is replacing hardware on the sly.
ok so if i say want to use my mogul instead of my touch when i go camping as a router for my psp Then I just have to make sure the touch is off before booting the mogul correct ??
Another reason...
You are looking for that replacement phone (after you dropped yours and it hit the ground perfectly to snap the main board). You find a decent price on a Touch on eBay. After getting it, you realize how big an idot you were (buying a Sprint CDMA phone when your network is GSM). You figure, I'll give it to my wife who is on VZW. You go to the web page and enter the ESN...no luck. Call, no luck. Have them do the DMD thing...no luck here either. So then you figure it is your only option. Oh well, I can't bring myself to clone the ESN anyway. Guess I'll put it back on eBay and see if anyone else wants it.
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Astron said:
This isn't the 90's
If you clone a phone as soon as both phones register in the HLR with two different locations they will be flagged as fraud.
The main thing this is good for is replacing hardware on the sly.
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I clone phones all the time with full legal permission. The myth that the phone will be flagged is false. I clone phones that belong to wanted fugitives, so I can monitor inbound phone calls and text messages. All I need is min , mdn, and esn. 9 out 10 times the mdn is the min.
Try making outgoing calls on one of those cloned phones and see what happens.
was anyone able to do this? I tried this on my touch and it doesn't work. after using the command rtask c, then when opening up cdma workshop, i can't connect to the phone using any com port. i tried connecting with all 25 port, none of them worked. can anyone help here?
I cloned a touch to my moguls esn about a month ago and everything worked fine untill today. I only had one phone powered on at one time, never had both of them on at same time. today my data won't worked on my cloned touch but will work on my mogul. They both have the same settings. Any ideas whats going on?
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Can this method be used to purchase a Sprint Diamond, change the ESN to a Verizon Wireless Touch, and activate the superior Sprint Diamond on Verizon Wireless? I really want a Diamond but I'm on VZW and dont want the watered down version they're getting
I have a question about this.
I recently bought a HTC Sprint Touch Diamond, and so now I have a vogue sitting around. My g/f has MetroPCS (CDMA) and has a really beat phone, and I want to give her the Vogue.
The problem is MetroPCS will not open its network to PDA / PocketPC / Smartphones apparently. So if I cloned the ESN off her phone, and put that ESN on my old Vogue, would it work, or do I need the carrier configuration files (which there are none for MetroPCS).
Thanks guys!
Edit: got it mostly working, no net yet but getting closer...
I can't get cdma to read my phone. It connects but won't read.
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I can't get cdma to read my phone. It connects but won't read.
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1. After you do rtask c, make sure to install the drivers.
2. Make sure you are on the correct COM settings. (see device manager if you are not sure which com)
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Can this method be used to purchase a Sprint Diamond, change the ESN to a Verizon Wireless Touch, and activate the superior Sprint Diamond on Verizon Wireless? I really want a Diamond but I'm on VZW and dont want the watered down version they're getting
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ya this what I want to do, different carriers, but same idea, use my touch esn info and put it on a diamond, would like a how to on this.
Please correct me if I am wrong. Could this be used to make a phone call from my own phone, but have it show up as coming from a different phone?
A friend of mine has the iphone and found a program to do this and is convinced that only the iphone is capable of this feat. I would like to show him that this isn't true. Perhaps my reasoning is somewhat immature, but what the heck!
okay, so lets say I get this working and decide that I might want to get rid of the phone that I just cloned. How can I delete the cloned esn so its clean again? And will this method work for ANY phone, or only the touch?
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No, I'm not asking when/if the Incred is gonna hit Sprint.
Due to a falling out with Verizon, I'm now with Sprint, and would like to bring the $300 phone over to them (even if I would love to get my hands on an Evo). Now, considering I've never even considered taking an unlocked phone and dropping it onto another provider, I was hoping someone here in the forums may know whether or not it is possible to do so.
I mean, they're both CDMA and Sprint does use Verizon's towers...
It's not possible sadly. Not for any technical reasons, there are no issues there, but Sprint won't activate a phone's ESN number that's not in their system. The ESN contains the model number/vender/etc. Being that this phone is a VZW-exclusive, there really isn't a lot you can do... sorry =/.
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It's not possible sadly. Not for any technical reasons, there are no issues there, but Sprint won't activate a phone's ESN number that's not in their system. The ESN contains the model number/vender/etc. Being that this phone is a VZW-exclusive, there really isn't a lot you can do... sorry =/.
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HTC is known for releasing phones that are better than and similar to other carriers versions, so i'd try to hold out, HTC releases phones every other month or so too. You can still use the phone as a Wifi only device atleast so its not entirely useless.
also, from the sound of it DeeBG, the ESN seems to be the same as a VIN for a car, didn't know the ESN contained all that info, i thought it was just an id like a MAC I.D. on wireless devices.
As far as them not activating the ESN, a while back they were part of the Open Handset Alliance, as was Verizon, and T-Mobile was also in there, and as far as i've read, Verizon is the only carrier that left it.
An H-SPL* unlocked HTC Touch Pro 2 with Windows Mobile from Verizon can be made to work on Sprint, its just that the 3G won't work (just to give an example)
*H-SPL is the equivelant of Root on Android, except on Windows Mobile OS
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No, I'm not asking when/if the Incred is gonna hit Sprint.
Due to a falling out with Verizon, I'm now with Sprint, and would like to bring the $300 phone over to them (even if I would love to get my hands on an Evo). Now, considering I've never even considered taking an unlocked phone and dropping it onto another provider, I was hoping someone here in the forums may know whether or not it is possible to do so.
I mean, they're both CDMA and Sprint does use Verizon's towers...
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You're chances are about as good as Janet Reno winning a Miss America pageant. Sprint will not activate it as the MEID is not in their database nor would they even remotely entertain the idea of adding it as they can not support it if there are problems.
anything is possible but you are then on your own with no warranty or support from sprint. if you search around you can find how to do it but it is not easy and really not worth it unless you enjoy messing around with programming phones.
best bet is to ebay your INC and get an EVO on sprint. you'll probably come out ahead money wise anyway.
I say try activating it online. It wouldn't hurt to try. Can't speak for Sprint, but I've activated an old MotoQ from Sprint on Verizon's network within the last 6 months or so. So, I at least know Verizon does it. Or maybe they both carried the same phone at one point. But, trying doesn't hurt.
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I bought an evo from someone from Craigslist and it wouldnt activate. Sprint told me the ESN was not correct.
So i did a ton of research and i know i cant even ask certain things so i am trying my best to word this correctly because i am not 100% sure how i can even ask for help with this.
After doing a lot of reading i figured out by using CDMA WS 2.7 that the ESN and MEID dont match whats on the sticker under the battery...which finally made sense to me why Sprint wouldnt let me activate it.
I dont know where to go from here, i am stuck and ready to just dump it back on Craigslist to sell to someone who could either fix it themselves or is willing to deal w/it for whatever service its setup for.
So before i give up i was hoping to reach out to this community for help. If you cant post it because it would infringe the forum rules then please just PM me. Any idea's would be helpful or just some good advice besides throwing this thing at a brick wall. Thanks folks.
I'm pretty sure you got scammed into buying a borked phone. Would probably sell it back on craigslist, honestly obviously
I've seen Evos with bad ESN's sell for a pretty penny on eBay. They can still be used outside the US and can be flashed over to MetroPCS or Boost Mobile here, so it is still not completely useless.
From what I know, the only way to get it to work on Sprint is to know someone in Sprint who will be kind enough to add the ESN on your phone to their database so it can be activated. A co-worker of mine had a Verizon Blackberry Storm on Sprint by doing this a few years back, but he had a family member that worked for Sprint help him out. For all I know, this can't be done anymore, either.
so you dont think i can repair it back to the stock one thats on the sticker under the battery ?
i have been doing a lot of reading and i figured i would give it a shot since if its bad i have nothing to lose.
So far i have the ESN zero'd out 0000000
Meid i cant get because i only found 9 locations, i am not sure where the 10th one is hidden. I am only guessing from what i read that its in 10 locations and thats why it hasnt worked yet.
Using CDMA 2.7 do you know how i might be able to scan to find the last MEID location ?
First off, did Sprint say the Meid that is labeled under the battery is bad? I can only think of two reasons why someone would change the esn/meid. The phone's meid is bad or the person wanted to run an EVO on the $30/month Sero plan. I'm the latter.
Before you go any farther, go back to the Sprint store and find out if the meid under the battery is usable on Sprint. If so you can change the meid back to stock but it is going to require some reading and some effort on your part. CDMAWS 2.7 will not work on the EVO, 2.7 can not do meid #s. Since the esn is all zero's I'm betting the guy botched the job and tried writing the new meid/esn but did not find all the addresses. When you try to change the meid you have to zero out all the meids and all the esn (don't be confused if you see the term pesn. A meid phone calculates an esn based on the meid # and this called a pesn. Essentially pesn and esn are the same thing), there are approx. 16 memory locations you have zero out. If the phone has froyo on it, there are 1 or 2 address that are really hard to get to show up when you are doing a memory dump. You will have to run several dumps until you are no longer finding new memory locations. Rolling back to 2.1 would make it easier.
Go to mobile-files.us. There is a lengthy thread on changing the meid/esn on the EVO. Hopefully the person didn't wipe out your 4G certificate too, I think I read here on XDA that there is away to restore your certificate but I never had to so I never followed the thread.
You aren't completely screwed, think of it like you bought a fixer upper. Even if your stock meid is bad, you could always barrow one from your previous phone but you will not have 4G.
Good Luck, I hope you don't get discouraged and try to find another sucker. It just plain s*cks getting duped. I've been down that road before and that's what got me interested in this aspect of hacking.
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If you see the esn and meid from CDMA write it down and call and activate with those numbers, should work.
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First off, did Sprint say the Meid that is labeled under the battery is bad? I can only think of two reasons why someone would change the esn/meid. The phone's meid is bad or the person wanted to run an EVO on the $30/month Sero plan. I'm the latter.
Before you go any farther, go back to the Sprint store and find out if the meid under the battery is usable on Sprint. If so you can change the meid back to stock but it is going to require some reading and some effort on your part. CDMAWS 2.7 will not work on the EVO, 2.7 can not do meid #s. Since the esn is all zero's I'm betting the guy botched the job and tried writing the new meid/esn but did not find all the addresses. When you try to change the meid you have to zero out all the meids and all the esn (don't be confused if you see the term pesn. A meid phone calculates an esn based on the meid # and this called a pesn. Essentially pesn and esn are the same thing), there are approx. 16 memory locations you have zero out. If the phone has froyo on it, there are 1 or 2 address that are really hard to get to show up when you are doing a memory dump. You will have to run several dumps until you are no longer finding new memory locations. Rolling back to 2.1 would make it easier.
Go to mobile-files.us. There is a lengthy thread on changing the meid/esn on the EVO. Hopefully the person didn't wipe out your 4G certificate too, I think I read here on XDA that there is away to restore your certificate but I never had to so I never followed the thread.
You aren't completely screwed, think of it like you bought a fixer upper. Even if your stock meid is bad, you could always barrow one from your previous phone but you will not have 4G.
Good Luck, I hope you don't get discouraged and try to find another sucker. It just plain s*cks getting duped. I've been down that road before and that's what got me interested in this aspect of hacking.
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Thanks, i think he had it programmed for something else like maybe cricket or something, i see a lot of them listed for that, he told me the ESN was good and i checked on a site that checks them and the one under the battery is good.
SO i would have activated it over the phone already but they wouldnt because they said it wasnt a sprint phone... i didnt want to make it their problem and i didnt know what i was talking about at the time as far as asking them for help to fix it.
I also dont want to just dump it back on someone else. I would like to finish the job and get this phone working correctly. I always feel better when i learn how and why its done.
right now im basically stuck after finding 9 of the MEID locations to zero-out. If i cant use CDMA WS 2.7 do you know what program i could use before spending a bunch of money on software ? If buying a new phone will end up as much as software it wouldnt be worth it for me ya know ?
The Evo has OS Version 2.2 and Radio 1.36. Do i need to change either of those before going any further ?
I used a combination of Motorola QPST/QXDM and CDMAWS 3.5 (I bought this when I was playing with the Pre. Can't be shared with others because it checks their servers to verify if that PC has been registered with that user lic.). I used CDMAWS to search for meids and esns. Used Motorola QXBM to change the scm, zero out meids/esns and then write. I also used QPST to match the programming info with my donor phone. The thread at mobile-files mentions how other people dumped the memory locations without having a paid version of CDMAWS.
Even if you went out and bought CDMAWS, my experience is that CDMAWS can not change the EVO's meid on it's own. Maybe some CDMAWS experts can do it but I could not. So don't spend your money on that thinking it will be your savior. It's a great tool for doing programming and working on older phones but it seems to struggle with the newer stuff.
Future Lesson:
When buying a Sprint phone on CL meet up at a Sprint sure and make sure they can activate it in the store. Once successful you then pay the dude.
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Hi guys, my mother work at the airport of montreal and several days ago she find a HTC Evo 4G. She try to join the person impossible because there's a pattern to draw. She bring it back home since it was totaly impossible to call anyone and that no one call. That HTC is from spring and spring are in the USA at the beginning i tought that we could just replace the sim card, but I discover that this phone has no sim card on it. Now here is my question. Is there a way to pull out the sim card or is there a way to remove the lock that is set on it ?
Guys no answer with ''oh you should bring it back or call the company" look she found the phone no one call we try to join now that we have it we would like to use it.
Thank you.
Okay, I'll bite.
DISCLAIMER: I work for a vendor for Verizon tech, so I do know this stuff, but I am not speaking on behalf of Verizon Wireless in any way, all this knowledge is my own, for your personal benefit.
The EVO is a CDMA/Wimax phone. CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) is a totally different technology than GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications). CDMA phones do NOT utilize SIM cards. The only phones that are CDMA that have a SIM card are Verizon's 4G LTE phones (and the sim card is for the 4G radio in an LTE phone). Make sense? CDMA = no sim card, ever, cannot work overseas (i.e. Verizon and Sprint). GSM = yes, these phones use SIM cards. AT&T and T-Mobile are both GSM, as are most networks outside the U.S.
Fun fact: CDMA is a more secure connection and cannot be "tapped into" or "hacked" as easily as GSM.
Edit: Yes, Verizon has phones that can use both Cdma/Gsm connections, but there are very few. I am not sure if Sprint has any, but the EVO is certainly not one of them.
Also no one could help you out for the fact that would be stealing. Also the person that lost the phone can have the location sent to their gmail if they know what to do. Otherwise it should remain in lost and found so when the person call to see if its there they can find it.
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ummm......you should bring it back or call Sprint. Although I will say it sounds like you are surrounded by some lucky people. Mom found Evo and you posted a few months back girlfriend found a phone in cab that you couldn't unlock either.
Umm yeah, what you are asking is stealing, and is illegal. Either take the phone to a sprint store, or take the battery out, write down the esn, and call sprint at 888-211-4727 and tell them you found the phone, they will ship you a box to send it back to them.
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lEdit: Yes, Verizon has phones that can use both Cdma/Gsm connections, but there are very few. I am not sure if Sprint has any, but the EVO is certainly not one of them.
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The Photon is a "worldphone"
Turn it in at a sprint store
Hey, don't listen to these guys. Stealing is perfectly okay. After all, there's no such thing as karma, right? Just solder a GSM radio into place where your CDMA radio goes and you'll be good to go!
^^sarcasm.
The photon... hmmmm i need to play around with it. I really hate motorola's just because all my friend's phones have ruined the experience for me.
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The photon... hmmmm i need to play around with it. I really hate motorola's just because all my friend's phones have ruined the experience for me.
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A lot of people are saying its the best phone they've ever used.
It has vanilla android with a Motorola launcher I believe.
All bloatware is uninstallable.
Very surprising. good info, for sure. I will have to pick one up and mess with it. Hopefully they do not break like all of the droid franchise
yeah definitely just call sprint and have them walk you through it although the guy from verizon has a point it wont do you any good unless you are living in the US since the phone will never ever pick up any signal overseas
If your mom work in an airport she should of done the right thing and turned it in not take it home. Well I'm glad I got sprint family locator and where's my Droid app to find my phone !
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I like the lookout plan b. nice and sneaky. always leave your gps turned on. hehehehehehehe. OP, you should be glad you don't have my phone right now...
How do you want me to take the phone to a sprint store i live in canada and this is a US store I mean do you really think that they will send somebody in canada to take back his phone come on.... Anyways I found a way to change the carrier and unlock it.
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call them and they will send you a return kit will cost you nothing to ship it back
by the sounds of it, you said his phone, you sure you dont know who's it is?
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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AFAIK, this is impossible because Sprint will not activate a phone from outside their network.
I believe the CDMA frequencies are incompatible, but don't quote me on that.
Are you sure the Evos are in Verizon? I've heard of them on Cricket and other smaller carriers that use the Sprint network, but not Verizon.
I do not believe this is possible due to Sprint being a jerk. You COULD buy the Droid Razr unlocked and plead with a Sprint rep, but I would say you have next to no chance of getting them to activate it for you. Sprint will only activate a phone that has an ESN number that is in their database, they COULD activate it, but that is against their TOS and no rep even has the power to do it for you, you would have to practically get Dan Hesse on the phone to do it
My advice would be to wait a little bit (unless your current phone is on the fritz and you need a new one now, and in that case, go with the Epic 4G Touch, I love mine!!) and see what is out there, the Galaxy Nexus MAY or MAY NOT come to Sprint, but I would expect at least 2 or 3 top of the line Android devices by the end of Q1 2012...... Ultimately the choice is up to you... Best of luck!!
It is being done you have to unlock the phone so the freg can be changed to work on a different carrier. You do not tell what type of phone u just give the ESN number after you hack the hardware info. You would be surprised how often this is being done. Most of your local cell phone providers have the software to make this happen and when i mean your local cell phone provider. I am talking about the ones that offer service cheap or have the phone in the store that you can buy. the mom and pops.
I have to "lol" at some of the replies. Sprint and Verizon use the same cdma frequencies, 800mhz/1900mhz. Why do you think Sprint phones can voice and data roam on VZW?
Anyway, what the OP wants to do is achievable via *wink* *wink* methods, and it's not easily done anyway but possible.
Google is your friend.
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I thought there was a law against them not allowing this?
When I was with T Mobile (GSM) they were required by federal to give you the subsidy unlock code and could not deny the usage of any other GSM phone on their network so long as the IMEI wasn't blacklisted for being stolen/lost. I could call AT&T to unlock one of their phones to use on T Mobile - obviously data was a nogo because of the AWS band.
So there's nothing like that for CDMA carriers?
Like what newalker91, none Sprint ESN will not work. But any Verizon phone will work on Sprint. You will have to do the same thing as they are doing to the EVO's.
Look for a broken or older Android phone with a good ESN.
huh? Google it!
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For one, the 3G frequencies on Sprint are locked out to phones not registered in the ESN database and the phone will NOT work on Sprint's network. Calling Sprint a jerk for this is ridiculous and shows how little research has been done by the complainant.
For two, this has nothing to do with the Epic 4G Touch, therefore this thread is being reported as spam/incorrect section.
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If that's the case, how can we load certain PRL's and roam on Verizon's network using 3G? Or is roaming a different story? It would seem we're not exactly "lock out" due to the ESN not being registered, maybe mildly restricted?
There seems to be some major gaps in what you said but I could be wrong, care to elaborate?
As far as reporting this thread, that's a douchey move. The OP has a legitimate question, it just seems people have heard different *facts* about the topic so there's a few different answers. That's no reason to report the thread and try to have it deleted - obviously there's an information issue on this subject that needs to be resolved. Even more of a reason to keep this thread open.
CDMA phones are essentially unlocked. You can get your SPC/MSL, for my Vogue and Mogul, I called sprint ant they gave the MSL even though at the time I was under contract. Now I just use CDMAWS. Everyone knows Verizon's MSL code, 000000. With your msl you can change configurations to your hearts content, provided you have the software.
The problem is that Verizon and Sprint will not activate a meid/esn that is not in their system. Yes they are both protecting their interests by making sure you live up to your agreement but I also think they do not want to take the to time trouble shoot every stinking phone that some yahoo wants to put on their network. Keep in mind every phone they release has been tested and configured to work on their network, they don't some strange phone coming from a Korean/Chinese CDMA network with who knows what settings configured on their network. There are a ton of configuration options that other carriers can use. Thankfully Verizon and Sprint keep the configs on the simple side.
Getting a E4GT on Verizon/MetroPC/Virgin/Boost is a piece of cake. Its one of the easiest phones to do. Many HTC phone are harder to do but can be done. LGs look simple but the Optimus seems to require using LGNPST to unlock some entries before you can get changes to stick. I was using a Droid Incrdible on my Sero plan for 6 months before I changed phones. Going in to details on how is discouraged and I have been warned against doing so by a mod.
rruss said:
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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Yes, it's possible. When I worked at Sprint I had a customer come in with an Evo on Verizon (he later came back to Sprint). You take a Verizon smartphone and swap ESN's with the phone you want to put on. It's not illegal if you swap them, and it's not like anyone's going to know, because on their system, it'll show up as the other phone, not what you're actually using. It's not a straight-forward process but if you can follow directions it's not too hard.
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Yes, it's possible. When I worked at Sprint I had a customer come in with an Evo on Verizon (he later came back to Sprint). You take a Verizon smartphone and swap ESN's with the phone you want to put on. It's not illegal if you swap them, and it's not like anyone's going to know, because on their system, it'll show up as the other phone, not what you're actually using. It's not a straight-forward process but if you can follow directions it's not too hard.
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So If I were to call sprint and Had a droid razr that I want to use and I'm currently using a palm pre I Just give them my pre esn and they will use that to activate it? How is this possible because doesn't each phone have a specific ESN that allows that specific phone to be activated?
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So If I were to call sprint and Had a droid razr that I want to use and I'm currently using a palm pre I Just give them my pre esn and they will use that to activate it? How is this possible because doesn't each phone have a specific ESN that allows that specific phone to be activated?
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It's not that simple. You have to use programs to swap the ESNs. As in take the ESN from the Pre and put it on the Droid Razr. And then you give them the Pre ESN (which is really the Droid Razr) and it'll work on Sprint. You'll still need to change some stuff like the APN/MMS settings, among other things, but out of the box, it should make calls/SMS texts.
A little bit of a downer...
Theres only one problem with that... Droid Razr uses a Sim card for network identification. I know its CDMA, but all LTE phones on Verizon require a sim card, also it has no ESN number. So, until Sprint gets LTE, then no Razr on Sprint, unless someone hacks the sim card to have an ESN number (which I have seen with the HTC ThunderBolt), but if Sprint does get LTE, then you have to change the IMEI number with a 4G LTE phone on Sprints Network, and even then, you still only get Sprint 3G, unless they plan to use the same bands as Verizon, but good luck trying to get it on Sprint!
ok here's the breakdown.. because 90% of the info in here isnt correct. few guys said some worthwhile stuff tho.. so everyone dont hate
the droid razr isnt getting on sprint... youre not editing the moto meid. not possible. there are some scripts out there that edit the moto meid on bootup but its buggy and does not work on all motos. unless youre super mobile hacker.. youre not touching this method.
other phones... samsungs/htc/lg... as gedster314 said... can all be easily edited. each individual phone may have its quirks but in general.. they all generally use the same methods to edit meid/3g profiles.
now... as for what Jayjaymac said above about it not being able to work without a sim card. generally this is correct.. when doing everything by the book. but you can remove the sim card and rewrite the serial built into the phone and rewrite it as the meid.. and then youre on cricket/metro/boost etc. now again... youre not editing the moto meid... but its because of how moto locks down their phones.. NOT because of the lte sim. the samsung charge has a weird chipset so no one has interfaced it with QPST yet.. so no meid change there either. the htc thunderbolt can easily be put on any cdma network.. that has a sim. any htc device wouldnt be a problem putting on other networks... vzw gnex would work as well.
tl;dr
the moto cant be done... but not for the reasons people specified in this thread. if u wanna edit meid's.. dont ever choose moto.
Yes, like auto said, the MEID was created as an ESN replacement. You cannot "clone" and MEID to another device to fool Sprint anymore. Old ESN devices could be done that way, but that is no longer the case with MEID
Korey_Nicholson said:
Yes, like auto said, the MEID was created as an ESN replacement. You cannot "clone" and MEID to another device to fool Sprint anymore. Old ESN devices could be done that way, but that is no longer the case with MEID
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i didnt say that
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices... all editable. you can even force meid phones back to use esn-only if you must.
the issue in this thread is that the OP wanted to edit the motorola droid razr, but you are unable to edit it due to how motorola locks their phones down.
and to everyone else reading this thread.. no this thread will NOT be used for directions on how to do any of this. we're merely discussing whether something is technically possible or not.
autoprime said:
i didnt say that
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices... all editable. you can even force meid phones back to use esn-only if you must.
the issue in this thread is that the OP wanted to edit the motorola droid razr, but you are unable to edit it due to how motorola locks their phones down.
and to everyone else reading this thread.. no this thread will NOT be used for directions on how to do any of this. we're merely discussing whether something is technically possible or not.
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Ahh misunderstood.
autoprime said:
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices...
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I can Vouch
check this out
or this or this or this if your lazy
rruss said:
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/estore/certifieddevice/cd
Why didn't you just reply to the thread this was in?
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Hi guys, I'm about to cancel my Sprint account and root the evo to boost, the incognito/rant are no longer on sale except on eBay. Which of the newer cheapest phone from Boost I can use as a donor???? I am afraid to get a used one from eBay thinking it might not work. Thanks in advance.
SilverTigre2010 said:
Hi guys, I'm about to cancel my Sprint account and root the evo to boost, the incognito/rant are no longer on sale except on eBay. Which of the newer cheapest phone from Boost I can use as a donor???? I am afraid to get a used one from eBay thinking it might not work. Thanks in advance.
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I've gotten mine, always used incognito, from craigslist. Doesn't matter what condition the phone is in as long as it powers up and can connect the usb port. I've done it with the Evo and the E3D. I want to try one of the Galaxy phones next but haven't gotten my hands on one. Good luck.
I've done two now with the incognito and their both working fine.
Technically you could use any 3g phone, it just may be harder to get all the info you need since most of the directions are for those 2...
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Thanks guys, so I won't matter if the incognito has been used as a donor before?? does it has to be an incognito from Boost or any other carries who might have sold it.:good:
It has to be from boost. And it can ONLY be used as a donor once at a time.
Meaning, say a buddy uses it to flash his evo. If he's still using it, you can't.
So if your buying one, make sure its a clean esn and activatible.
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Thanks to all, I think I'm ready now. I did search CL and found a couple near where I am, just need to make sure they're ok. Thanks again
SilverTigre2010 said:
Thanks guys, so I won't matter if the incognito has been used as a donor before?? does it has to be an incognito from Boost or any other carries who might have sold it.:good:
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Just change the phone number on the Incognito it will assign new HA/AAA information.
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Just change the phone number on the Incognito it will assign new HA/AAA information.
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But that doesn't matter. When you clone the info to a new phone, its always going to use the same unique numbers. The HA/AAA are only the passwords needed to access the information.
The esn/meid are unique and only 1 phone has those numbers. Its like a network mac address.
So no, you still can only use a phone once at a time. Otherwise, I could sell just the numbers off my phone all day long.
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I'm not talking about multiple people using the same information.
I'm talking about generating new HA/AAA information so at least he would know there's no way for some else to have it like the guy he bought it from.
By activating the phone you know if its in use or not.
He wouldn't be able to even activate the phone if someone is even using the MEID or ESN.
Can't you just call boost with your evo's ESN and they'll put it on their network? No need for a donor if so.
Some people claim they have but their official policy is against it, most have said they've been denied and I haven't even tried.
They can tell what ESN is coming from where Boost and Sprint ESNs are not considered the same in their systems.
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Can't you just call boost with your evo's ESN and they'll put it on their network? No need for a donor if so.
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To my understanding after reading a few blogs is that you can't do that, it will seem doable because is basically the same network(Sprint) but aparently is not possible therefore the need to flash.
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Just to update there are some other phones that can be use see this.
I was able to get a brand new incognito from a Sprint Store in VA, I spoke to one of the managers and they're getting rid off all the old boost mobile phones, I got mine for less than $30 they can even go lower If you buy in bulk, I thought about buying them(they had about 20) and reselling them on CL but didn't do it(not enough cash).
Anyway I completed the flash and now I am using my 4G Evo with boost, I am down to $25/month, I got the Pay as you go plan $.50/day unlimited web + $0.20/minute call. Works great for me since I don't use the phone to make calls, mostly text and web. Running ICS ROM of course with no 4G, I was paying about $93/month with Sprint.