WM6 Make File Explorer' S Background TRANSPARENT - Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking

can i make transparent the white background of the "file explore" of my htc touch with wm6? so i can see what's under..
like a "glass-2k" - "windows aero style".
what value i must modify ? i have resco register.
thanks
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I think such thing is not possible under WM6 or any version

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Change commanager skin

Hello does someone know if it is possible to change the green Commanger?
I already changed the phonepad from green to the default Microsoft skin, but now the commanager is still GREEN......
Let me know if you know how to do it, or if it is possible to copie the commanager.exe from another device...
Grtz.
Marvie
Yes
tons of new types of comms in cab form for install.

How to create WM6 themes ?

i didn't find any tool that makes WM6 themes .
the WM6 themes are different than WM5 in few ways . like the bottom and upper bar are 3d ,
so if anyone knows a tool or app that creates WM6 themes please advise me .
WBR
a-h-t1 said:
i didn't find any tool that makes WM6 themes .
the WM6 themes are different than WM5 in few ways . like the bottom and upper bar are 3d ,
so if anyone knows a tool or app that creates WM6 themes please advise me .
WBR
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Hi - build wm6 themes is v similar to wm5 themes albeit a few differences. I am plannig to write a minitutorial but not sure when this will done because i am cooking a rom at the moment.
For the app use my friend BenThon's app - ThemeGen CE http://www.codeppc.com/telechargements/themegence/themegence.htm
it now runs under vista
Follow my guide for wm5 themes here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=275907
To keep the 3d bars - use basehue to define the colors or Navigation bar color 1 (do the same thing)
1st change for wm6
Do not use these keys in the key section Color_SoftkeyFlatCentre and Color_TitleFlatCenter as they will give you flat bars.
2nd change for wm6
You can use standard format theme or start image theme still in wm6 but most of the wm6 have orientation P & L themes. (portrait and landscape)
Thats all for now.
Tips from BenThon - author of ThemeGenCE
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If you cannot figure out all options of ThemeGenCE and nevertheless want to adapt - easily - a theme from this thread (borealcool themes,
black in Black with screen 320x240, same scheme colors) to your wishes, follow these steps :
1) Download one the themes above (in this thread).
2) Launch it in ThemeGenCE. Do not close the program !
3) In the bottom left panel, define the 3 items :
a) Define Folder for saving the new theme.
b) Define File Name for the new theme.
c) Define Internal Name for the new theme.
4) Build your 2 images (with the software you want, Paint, Photoshop... In bmp, gif, jpg or png. Windows Mobile and also Desktop Windows do not care about the extension of the image. It recognize the real format, independently of the extension. That is the reason why, for simplification, in ThemeGenCE I always put ".gif" extension.).
a) one for Portrait Mode. (240x294 pixels)
b) one for Landscape Mode. (320x214 pixels)
5) Copy the 2 images in the same folder as the program ThemeGenCE.
6) Delete the 2 existing files in this folder :
stwater_240_320.gif
stwater_320_240.gif
7) Rename your 2 images :
Portrait Mode Image to stwater_240_320.gif
Landscape Mode Image to stwater_320_240.gif
8) Go back in ThemeGenCE program and save the theme by clicking the fourth button of the main toolbar. You do not see update of the
images in ThemeGenCE but your new theme is now created with your own Images ! I have built the ThemeGenCE program to verify "on
idle" if the images have changed, so new images are incorporated in the theme even if the preview is not systematically updated.
9) You can verify that your new theme is really created. Exit from ThemeGenCE and relaunch it with your new Theme.
@meschle
thanx a million , now i will try to make my first theme
WBR
meschle said:
Hi - build wm6 themes is v similar to wm5 themes albeit a few differences. I am plannig to write a minitutorial but not sure when this will done because i am cooking a rom at the moment.
For the app use my friend BenThon's app - ThemeGen CE http://www.codeppc.com/telechargements/themegence/themegence.htm
it now runs under vista
Follow my guide for wm5 themes here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=275907
To keep the 3d bars - use basehue to define the colors or Navigation bar color 1 (do the same thing)
1st change for wm6
Do not use these keys in the key section Color_SoftkeyFlatCentre and Color_TitleFlatCenter as they will give you flat bars.
2nd change for wm6
You can use standard format theme or start image theme still in wm6 but most of the wm6 have orientation P & L themes. (portrait and landscape)
Thats all for now.
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is there a way to change the colour of the top start bar text???
fallenczar said:
is there a way to change the colour of the top start bar text???
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Not really - if you change navigation bar color text - it only changes for a second when you apply the theme it then reverts. It was meant for wm2003.
You can change the color of the text of the bottom bar Color_CommandbarText in the wm5\keys section but not the top.
BenThon have you any suggestions? Is there a key we have missed out for the top bar color text?
Friendly, mark
wm2003 themes works too
the upper and button bar is
just like the bars on other versions
as it it's only asigned colour
nothing more
BenThon have you any suggestions? Is there a key we have missed out for the top bar color text?
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Sorry Mark, "I am a poor lonesome programmer... " and I have not WM6 device!
But I am waiting for your precious advices to adapt ThemeGenCE for WM6, if "theming" without plugins is still actual...
Thanks for your help and your support, Mark.
Friendly, Benoît
Thanks BenThon - i think the key in question is the same as with wm5. I am poor 2 and do not have wm5 device to test.
take care
Dialpad CAB
How do you incorporate a customised Dialpad into the theme?
Not possible i hace tried. Although a tsk file is really a cab file it does not work the way its expected. The only way would be to install it all by cab but then the theme would not show under setting\today. (theme would be installed by the images not tsk) Better to do them separately.
Mark wrote : Not possible i have tried
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I think it is possible !!!
If you don't name the file with TSK extension, but with CAB extension.
I think I have seen this in a forum.
And maybe a soft reset after...
Hi BenThon Yes i have installed this way e.g. with my first orientation themes - only problem is when you switch theme the today screen theme is lost because the theme.tsk was not installed only stwater.gif etc..
It will be ok for a one off installation but a problem when you switch themes.
Friendly - your pal.
ThemeGenCE V 2.5 - Preview WM6
ThemeGenCE version 2.5 has been recompiled with Delphi 2007 for Win 32 which allows to develop Vista compatible applications. ThemeGenCE stays compatible with earlier Windows versions.
Some minor bugs have been corrected.
This version now gives a new preview for the last Windows Mobile OS : WM6.
On the main form, there is a new button (on the right side in the middle) above the preview button already available in ThemeGenCE version 2.0. This button gives a preview for Windows Mobile 2002, 2003, WM5 et WM6, with a preview for "Today" and "Start" pages in portrait and landscape.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Below this button, you have the preview with "Skin" PDA choosen. WM5 or WM6 preview in the Skin PDA can be selected in the radiogroup (NB : this option is saved in a file for futher use).
Precisions about the algorithm for choosing Bars Hue (attempting to do the Microsoft algorithm) will be given in ThemeGenCE forum from CodePPC (also in english. "Poor english", sorry). Soon...
Link : ThemeGenCE page
BenThon said:
ThemeGenCE version 2.5 has been recompiled with Delphi 2007 for Win 32 which allows to develop Vista compatible applications. ThemeGenCE stays compatible with earlier Windows versions.
Some minor bugs have been corrected.
This version now gives a new preview for the last Windows Mobile OS : WM6.
On the main form, there is a new button (on the right side in the middle) above the preview button already available in ThemeGenCE version 2.0. This button gives a preview for Windows Mobile 2002, 2003, WM5 et WM6, with a preview for "Today" and "Start" pages in portrait and landscape.
Below this button, you have the preview with "Skin" PDA choosen. WM5 or WM6 preview in the Skin PDA can be selected in the radiogroup (NB : this option is saved in a file for futher use).
Precisions about the algorithm for choosing Bars Hue (attempting to do the Microsoft algorithm) will be given in ThemeGenCE forum from CodePPC (also in english. "Poor english", sorry). Soon...
Link : ThemeGenCE page
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Thanks again BenThon
IMO the best thememaker!
meschle said:
Hi - build wm6 themes is v similar to wm5 themes albeit a few differences. I am plannig to write a minitutorial but not sure when this will done because i am cooking a rom at the moment.
For the app use my friend BenThon's app - ThemeGen CE http://www.codeppc.com/telechargements/themegence/themegence.htm
it now runs under vista
Follow my guide for wm5 themes here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=275907
To keep the 3d bars - use basehue to define the colors or Navigation bar color 1 (do the same thing)
1st change for wm6
Do not use these keys in the key section Color_SoftkeyFlatCentre and Color_TitleFlatCenter as they will give you flat bars.
2nd change for wm6
You can use standard format theme or start image theme still in wm6 but most of the wm6 have orientation P & L themes. (portrait and landscape)
Thats all for now.
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How can I put the 3D bars in WM5? To tell you the truth,thats the only attraction I have to WM6.
Algorithm for choosing Bars Hue (upper and lower)
Algorithm for choosing Bars Hue (upper and lower) with WM5 and WM6
Here is the method ThemeGenCE uses to attempt to simulate Microsoft algorithm for the choice of the upper and lower Bars Hue with WM5 and WM6.
Color 5 is the navigation bar color (Color 1).
With WM6 Bars are 3D. But if you define Specific keys like these one :
"Color_SoftkeyFlatCenter"
"Color_TitleFlatCenter"
they become "flat". Thanks to Meschle, for this precision.
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Here is what I have posted here : http://www.codeppc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10730
can someone please help me i have a few problems i'm kind of a NOOb to this theme making thing.......i am able to make the themes no problem format the pics crop all that good stuff...my problem is that when i'm in the theme maker it shows me dual color i.e. sky blue blended with yellow but then when i put the file on the phone it gives me a goldish color instead of yellowand no blended blue at all this is with top & bottom bars on today screen. Then i noticed when i receive a text i get that blended color on the top of the notification bar i have tried this about 10x's it does the same exact thing also cant get a solid black bar i downloaded an all black .tsk forgot from where but what happens is when it ok after selecting the theme from the today menu it initially loads with that black glassy look then goes to a grey within a sec is there anyway to get that black look or is it impossible....please help me i've been at this 4 hrs any help would be appreciated.....a step by step tutorial would be nice if anybody has one or know where i can view one
At&t Tilt is my Phone
Is this a Freeware ?
http://www.codeppc.com/telechargements/themegence/themegence.htm
should i just download the English download on the link & run it on Pc
thats all ?
Please Help
black3188 said:
...my problem is that when i'm in the theme maker it shows me dual color i.e. sky blue blended with yellow but then when i put the file on the phone it gives me a goldish color instead of yellowand no blended blue at all this is with top & bottom bars on today screen...
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Don't forget that ThemeGenCE can make themes for WM 2003 to WM6... I understand that it may be a little confusing for those who have not followed OS evolution. The preview on the main page is for WM 2003. You can have previews for new OS by clicking on the buttons on the right middle of main page.
ilordvader said:
Is this a Freeware ?
http://www.codeppc.com/telechargements/themegence/themegence.htm
should i just download the English download on the link & run it on Pc
thats all ?
Please Help
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Yes, it is a freeware (and will stay a freeware...) ! Bonus ! on the download page you have a link for an english tutorial.
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BenThon;1806601| said:
Yes, it is a freeware (and will stay a freeware...) ! Bonus ! on the download page you have a link for an english tutorial.
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Thxs & i found a Video & helped alot so wanted to share with others
How To Make Themes Using ThemeGenCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv4C1KsY0S0

oldSAP FAV

hey guys just installed this great program but for whatever reason my "my programs" panel shows a pic of a red x and 1 - 11 are for word mobile why is it like this no matter if i change it or not.
i can help you, but first wat does oldsap do
oldSap is a programmer
o ok that makes sence, well all of the program link being set to word mobile is the default, u need to install the CHome Configurator cab to edit and customise the panels, it comes with neo order but all that does is change the order of the panels i believe. heres a link to the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393104&highlight=chome+configurator
EDIT
I just realized oldsap favorites does the exact same thing, but yeah just change it

[THEME- ref ] Default black + color pack for manila

This is my beloved black/green original HTC Manila theme and maybe a "reference" for others manila skinner.
Black default HTC theme for graphics & default green highlights for all colored components (checkbox, buttons and so on)
no screen needed as we all known default htc black theme
developed and tested with itje's latest build, currently T-mobile one from 6.1 2.604 kitchen. Feel free to try on other roms, it should work, but keep in mind that results may be different.
why 2 cab? to separate "static" graphic elements form indicators, selectors and so on. It's a huge work, done once for all (I hope ).
guap Manila Default Black.cab contains only "static" graphics (tabs, bars...)
guap Manila Green Hilights.cab contains only "skinnable" items (selectors, checkbox, buttons) to keep simple for others to change colors on their own without having to search all of them.
If you want i.e. to make a "red" theme, just edit files in Highlights.cab and you're ready
Or if you want to have black back on your t-mobile manila but keeping the blue/gray selectors and indicators, you can install only Default Black
How to install: disable manila, install cab (always to device if asked!!!), then re-enable manila. Soft reset shouldn't be required, but has to be the first option in case of weird behaviours
All cabs are unistallable and shold be an harmless process, but ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP with something like sprite backup or spb backup.
Other goodies
guap Green Fingermenu.cab for default green fingermenu
guap Green UsbToPC.cab for default green UsbToPC popup
guap Manila Green EnlargeStartMenu.cab for green EnlargeStartMenu
guap Manila Blue T-Mobile EnlargeStartMenu.cab for restore t-mobile colors on EnlageStartMenu (as this requires registry entries, isn't sufficient to uninstall the green one)
guap Manila Green Taskmanager.cab for green TaskManager (tnx to itje)
guap Manila Blue T-Mobile Taskmanager.cab for restore t-mobile colors on TaskManager (as this requires registry entries, isn't sufficient to uninstall the green one)
Default Indicators.zip once for all, some files MUST to stay green, i.e. the stock chart indicators: they are these files, if you get fuzzy stock indicators installing a custom theme, drop this in \windows and should be fix
Fix
guap Manila raindrop fix.cab t-mobile manila has ugly rains, probably messed up during blu-colorizing process: this will fix ugly raindrop on weather tab
Sorry about rapid, but this manila doesn't support cfc, these 2 are too big for the board:
guap Manila Default Black.cab -> http://rapidshare.com/files/216177011/guap_Manila_Default_Black.cab
guap Manila Green Hilights.cab -> http://rapidshare.com/files/216177012/guap_Manila_Default_Green_highlight.cab
...reserved...
Nice! Are different colors coming in the futue?
guap said:
Known bugs: taskmanager still has blue... can't find where these pics are stored, help whould be appreciated
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Code:
<characteristic type="HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager" translation="filesystem">
<parm name="ManilaCustomHlUp" datatype="integer" value="4666152"/>
<parm name="ManilaCustomHlDown" datatype="integer" value="4666152"/>
</characteristic>
@BobAndrews: not from me at the moment. I released separate cab to encourage other users to make their own skin starting from standard green package
with a script (even in photoshop afaik) should be simple to change saturation to all files at same time
itje said:
Code:
<characteristic type="HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager" translation="filesystem">
<parm name="ManilaCustomHlUp" datatype="integer" value="4666152"/>
<parm name="ManilaCustomHlDown" datatype="integer" value="4666152"/>
</characteristic>
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thank you! Stupid me, i was looking in HKLM near the enlargemenu... -_-'
Realized that this is still missing the new modifications to the dialer..
but those have to be done in the registry, which is a lot of work.
Dont blame ya if you dont want to do it
Nice one, Is there anyway to get the clock white ?
dr3minem said:
Realized that this is still missing the new modifications to the dialer..
but those have to be done in the registry, which is a lot of work.
Dont blame ya if you dont want to do it
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wich modification? This is related to manila only, manila isn't supposed to have a dialpad
can you post a screen?
@tomzibad: of course, open package with m9editor, extract clock png (they are clearly recognized ) and make your own color
Is there anyway to change to selection colour for the notification manager?
When I click it, it's still the same colour that I got rid of everywhere else. I still have a weird blue/grey/purple colour. And I would like the green in the notifications manager.
uhm maybe I missed it. Take a look in the latest kitchen, components are sort by directory, should be simple to find the misssed bmp for notification manager
guap said:
uhm maybe I missed it. Take a look in the latest kitchen, components are sort by directory, should be simple to find the misssed bmp for notification manager
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Which kitchen should I use to find this? Anyone in particular. Thanks for the tip ^^
thanks guap for your cabs, very useful.
I installed them to remove t-mob customizations in the rom i use. I wanted to rollback to default HTC classic scheme.
But after applying the cabs, the UI remains the same, strange to me, even the flip-clock (I don't like t-mob white-on-black clock). Your cab contains both square backgrounds, as well as digits, suppose the digits are white and the background is black in your cab file?
Pls advice, howto revert to black-on-white flip-clock?
Odeon said:
thanks guap for your cabs, very useful.
I installed them to remove t-mob customizations in the rom i use. I wanted to rollback to default HTC classic scheme.
But after applying the cabs, the UI remains the same, strange to me, even the flip-clock (I don't like t-mob white-on-black clock). Your cab contains both square backgrounds, as well as digits, suppose the digits are white and the background is black in your cab file?
Pls advice, howto revert to black-on-white flip-clock?
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install attached cab..
brings back black tf3d and flip clock..
knaplullig said:
install attached cab..
brings back black tf3d and flip clock..
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Wow! Looks nice! And it adds transparent tabs and wallpaper to all manilla pages!
Thanks!
Hi. I have problem with distorted graphics on the email tab (email account select). Any1 has experience with this problem? I am using green buttons, selectors etc. and Itjes 7+ final or Smabergs 6.2 ROMs
Dear knaplullig, guap
I noticed a problem, after installing Plain HD TF3D.cab,
my start menu stopped working (before when tapping on 'start', I had programs menu, not the classic start menu).
Which .manila file is to blame?
Dear All,
anyone, who uses this Plain TF3D tweak, do your start menu work ok?
Mine (I had programms when tapping 'start' -- before installing Plain TF3D cab) just stopped responding to taps. Winkey on Hw keyboard works (old-style start menu).
Anybody has suggestion, what has to be corrected in order to have responding startmenu back again?
FOUND!
I've found the file which froze startmenu.
It's 5c9aa261_manila. Can it be fixed somehow?
Odeon said:
FOUND!
I've found the file which froze startmenu.
It's 5c9aa261_manila. Can it be fixed somehow?
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Did you find a way to fix this? I tried installing it and had the same problem. It won't remove either so I may have to reflash
not to reflash you just have to re-instal and then remove the program.
also you can try this threads solutions.

Hide WM 6.5 Taskbar

Is there a tweak or a software to hide one or both bars (bottom & top) in winrows mobile 6.5?
The following cabs remove the topbar (operator logo) & bottom bar (TF3D tabs). It is advisable to install sdkcerts first.
EDIT
I have no cabs to remove top bar (startmenu/taskmanager) and bottom bar (soft keys)
[QUESTION] How to make taskbars transparent?
Hi,
Recently, I was wondering, how to change taskbars (upper and down windows, wich are black and Manila's tap-bar) to transparent? Right now I have my wallpaper in hi-res (480x800px), and only taskbars disturbs my HD look-and-feel
On screens:
1 and 2 visual of my HD screen.
3rd screen I've lent from MaxTTm's thread, to show wich bars am I talking here about... I mean number 5 (Manila tapbar), 10 and 11.
What I want:
5 and 10 could be 100% transparent
11 could be 65% transparrent.
Could Anybody make cab's with these settings for me? I would appraciate that.
Thanx in advance....
My screens:
I'm affraid that is not possible in WM6.1, but a feature in WM6.5.
tnyynt said:
I'm affraid that is not possible in WM6.1, but a feature in WM6.5.
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I'm using ROM based on WM 6.5 (like in my signature, or secound screen shows that). So I think it is possible...
2nd screen shows, that top and bottom bars are a little bit transparent... I just would like them to be (top) 100% and (bottom) 65%...
THX for reply...
mmm
not possible in 6.1 ? what makes it possible in 6.5? a reg hack ? as this is only software and there is no physical change betwen .5 and .1
dgattenb said:
not possible in 6.1 ? what makes it possible in 6.5? a reg hack ? as this is only software and there is no physical change betwen .5 and .1
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On my previous ROM (EnergyROM), I had MaxTTm installed and there is an option, wich allows You to change transparency of top, bottom and Manila tap-bar... Maby person, who developed MaxTTm can say something about that...
MOD EDIT
Merged these 2 threads
Fallen Spartan said:
The following cabs remove the topbar (operator logo) & bottom bar (TF3D tabs). It is advisable to install sdkcerts first.
EDIT
I have no cabs to remove top bar (startmenu/taskmanager) and bottom bar (soft keys)
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Question: could You please attach some screens, how does it look after cab's install?? I'm wondering, is this the thing, that I'm having on my mind...
EDIT
This doesn't solve my issue... I'm trying to make top and bottom bars transparent - I mean top bar (where icons are on it) and bottom (where we have text Phone, Contacts etc...).
Ok, I'm your first tester if you release a cab. ;-) Just let me know.
zoomol said:
Question: could You please attach some screens, how does it look after cab's install?? I'm wondering, is this the thing, that I'm having on my mind...
EDIT
This doesn't solve my issue... I'm trying to make top and bottom bars transparent - I mean top bar (where icons are on it) and bottom (where we have text Phone, Contacts etc...).
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As I stated cabs where not to make top & bottom bars transparent. It only removed background to TF3D tabs & operator bar on TF3D homepage
Fallen Spartan said:
As I stated cabs where not to make top & bottom bars transparent. It only removed background to TF3D tabs & operator bar on TF3D homepage
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OK, so back to beginning... If someone have a clue, tip or any way of doing this (also by registry values), please let me know...
PS. I don't think, that merging my thread with this was good idea - I'm having other issue than x0a... But if forum rules are strict in this case, I can't do anything about it
for those of you interested in hiding the bottom bar:
if have started a new thread here in the development section as i found the source code of dcinobar on the author's website. maybe someone can use this and create a new program
Fallen Spartan said:
The following cabs remove the topbar (operator logo) & bottom bar (TF3D tabs). It is advisable to install sdkcerts first.
EDIT
I have no cabs to remove top bar (startmenu/taskmanager) and bottom bar (soft keys)
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When I try NoTopBar - my Manila Crashes I can use only standard Windows Default Today Plugin (in WM6.5)...
NoBottomBar works fine...
zoomol said:
When I try NoTopBar - my Manila Crashes I can use only standard Windows Default Today Plugin (in WM6.5)...
NoBottomBar works fine...
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Did you install sdkcerts first?
Fallen Spartan said:
Did you install sdkcerts first?
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Yes, I had it installed after flashed to new ROM. Always install sdkcerts after flash, that saves me surprizes
What could cause this crash
Is there any cab to disable the bars (top and bottom) ?? If so can anyone guide me??
up
no program for remove the taskbar on wm6.5?
nueNoBar v2.0 works for me, with extra space useable. wm6.5 build 21882 (siemens lover v2.0 wwe)

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