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How to override files in windows-folder?

Hello,
I'm trying to replace the sym.0409.txt in windows-folder. But this file is writeprotected, so I can't delete or replace it. when I try to paste the file to windows-dir I get a message "do you realy want to replace the file... blablabla". When I click "yes", windows creates a new file "copy of sym.0409.txt"
can anyone tell me how to replace write protected files in windows-directory?

i belief this discussion has nothing to do with WM6. perhaps it should be moved to a general discussion?

HerrVorragend said:
Hello,
I'm trying to replace the sym.0409.txt in windows-folder. But this file is writeprotected, so I can't delete or replace it. when I try to paste the file to windows-dir I get a message "do you realy want to replace the file... blablabla". When I click "yes", windows creates a new file "copy of sym.0409.txt"
can anyone tell me how to replace write protected files in windows-directory?
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Depends how you are doing it....
Resco file explorer will allow you to "overwrite" file in the windows directory. If you install it you get 30days before you have to register it or remove it.
Hope that helps.

Some files can be overwritten by copying from within your desktop computer using Active Sync or Windows Mobile Device Centre, instead of directly on the device. I think.txt would fit this criteria.
.dll's need something like Resco Explorer installing on your device (on trial) and they will overwrite system files.

the windows-dir is not accessible from desktop-pc... but the resco-file-explorer-solution works fine

HerrVorragend said:
the windows-dir is not accessible from desktop-pc... but the resco-file-explorer-solution works fine
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yes the windows folder is available from the Desktop PC

ok... thats new for me... can you tell me how? when I go to my device in desktop explorer I see a harddrive "/" and under "/" I see all the rootdirectories from the device - except the windows-dir. typing in directly "//Windows" doesn't work too.
perhapgs it's a vista-only phenomenon...

HerrVorragend said:
ok... thats new for me... can you tell me how? when I go to my device in desktop explorer I see a harddrive "/" and under "/" I see all the rootdirectories from the device - except the windows-dir. typing in directly "//Windows" doesn't work too.
perhapgs it's a vista-only phenomenon...
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it works under vista too... i think there is a screen shot on mrvanx's guides....

may be.... but not out of the box... so if you can access your windows-folder under vista, please let the rest of the world know, how youget this working

HerrVorragend said:
may be.... but not out of the box... so if you can access your windows-folder under vista, please let the rest of the world know, how youget this working
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yes you can access it out of the box... but i dont have vista here with me at the moment... but i know you can.

walshieau said:
yes you can access it out of the box... but i dont have vista here with me at the moment... but i know you can.
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ok guy... this is my last post, after this post I will deactivate the notification.
1. I'm not a fool
2. I've installed Vista
3. You can NOT access the device windows-dir out of the box!
If you can't explain how to do it, please stop telling bull****!

walshieau said:
yes you can access it out of the box... but i dont have vista here with me at the moment... but i know you can.
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From WMDC, File Management, Browse files ...
\ Then Windows is listed.
The reason you can't see it is because you haven't unticked Hide Protected Operating System Files in CP-Appearance-Folder Options-Show Hidden Files
Edit: Herr*: Calm down, Wash was right and tried to help you with what he had available at the time.

You can overwrite the file using freeware Pocket Total Commander. I have been able to overwrite said file with this app. Sym.txt allows for entering additional characters (with umlauts....) via hardware keyboard.

Oops - ignore this.

Ok here is how you do it, folder options, view, uncheck "hide protected operating system files (recommended)". Presto, you can see it now, at least in Vista.

Delete File in Windows Mobile 6

Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?

Maybe Resco Explorer or Total Commander CE will help.

if it's built in the rom, you might be unable to delete that file.
Please be more specific: which file do you wish to delete?
Maybe you'd have to recook the ROM without that file.
Regards,
EquinoXe

Things built into the rom are "READ ONLY MEMORY" therefore cannot be deleted. if the file is only marked as system and readonly though you can change its atributes using total commander. just long click on item to bring up menu and go to properties. there you need to uncheck everything and delete

I had downloaded Total Commander and installed it, the checked file attributes are 'read only' and 'in rom'; so I guess the file shall be consider undeleteable.
Now I had to learn how to recook, any good guide how can I recook the ROM that I have?

similar problem
I downloaded some software and it came up as being faulty software. The file was a zip folder titled : res_ppc-custom.icons
I tried through my windows mobile device center to uninstall it, but it was never actually installed completely in the first place.
I then tried to delete the file a few times. Once directly from my pda, once through the device center and again through my pc windows explorer. All three attempts were unsuccessful.
How can I get rid of this thing?
Thanks in advance

perhaps you may want to check if the file being accessed by other software, easiest way is to soft reset and try to delete it.

That did the trick! Thanks so much

Move files to storage card
OK I want to move some files (not ROM) in Windows and keep getting error. For example Opera.exe is not marked as anything in properties yet I can't seem to delete the file. I did copy it to my storage card without any issue but can't delete the original from Windows directory. Any suggestions since Total Commander won't delete it. Will edit registry to find it on the Storage Card.

Deleting files in Windows folder
mynullvoid said:
Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?
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I have the same problem - I have colpilot.wm6ppc.cab in my Windows directory. It's 12.6mb, I don't want it, and it's taking up a lot of storage space. My phone is a T-Mobile MDA and it obviously came with CoPilot as an option, but I think it's really unfair that the cab is right there in the Windows dir and I can't get rid of it....
Any help gratefully received....
Cheers,
Ed.

The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.

Farmer Ted said:
The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.
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I think the issue is not on the files in ROM.
I have the same problem. I've copied a file under Windows folder and after that I'm unable to delete it.
Strangely I'm able to rename it, which should mean that file is not in use, however deletion is not possible.
I've used TotalCommander, the built-in Explorer and also connected the phone via ActiveSync, but still nothing happens and access seems to be denied.
The exact message is "deletion error".
Any idea?
Thanks.
Cheers...
-nOra-

A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.

johnylog.software said:
A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.
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Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?

djulen said:
Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?
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Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...

badbwoydes said:
Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...
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Use Total Commander to modify the contents of the \Windows directory.

Yes, but you won't be able to delete a ROM file anyway.
In the \Windows folder, you commonly encounter three kinds of files :
- Pure ROM files (can't be deleted nor renamed nor moved, nor even copied, but can be overwritten, consuming internal storage memory space in the process to store the new copy, that will become used instead) ;
- Files put there by installation CABs or else (can be freely deleted, renamed or moved, provided they're not currently used by a running process) ;
- Files put on top of previously existing ROM files, wearing the same name (deleting, renaming or moving them will thus make the original ROM file undertneath to reappear with its original contents and attributes).
Once you've understood that, you'll be more aware of what's cooking there.
ROM files can't even be copied, but you can use ROMExtractor to copy them elsewhere, in case you want to study them, or use them in your own ROM (useful to get up-to date versions from another HTC device to cook your own ROM).
Since ROMExtractor is a very minimalistic tool (you have to type in all the files names with their path, same for the target copy, all one by one !) manually extracting hundreds (even thousands) of files is a very tedious taks, I made a MortScript to automate the process in order to extract all those DLLs, EXEs, MUIs, etc. files that can't be directly copied from a phone's ROM.
On the other hand, you absolutely can't delete a ROM file to make room. Overwriting it with a file wearing the same name will jut result in actually adding the new file, thus consuming even more room. The new file will just be used instead of the original one (so you can still update or personalize the ROM).
As a direct consequence, the only way to get rid of unwanted ROM files or permanently replacing them with up-to-date ones is to cook a ROM and flash it to the device to replace the old one.
That's way how operating systems can become better and better, and save space at the same time.
And no, Windows Mobile isn't dead : I'm not quite finished with fixing it until it's perfect, so it's not over yet. LOL

run an exe/msi file from sd card

hello guys! do you have any idea on how to run .exe/.msi files using an sd card? i cant synchronize my ba for the reason that i still dont have a usb cable for it. i do update my ba using cab files only.
i have many useful utilities but some of them are in exe format. how will i be able to run these files on my sd card?

AFAIK msi files are exclusively for the pc, if a mobile app is provided as a msi file, it needs to be installed through activesync or wmdc.
exe files are executables for windows pcs and windows phones, but if a program comes in a single exe file, it looks like a pc setup as well. but you can try copying it to the sd card and simply click it in the file explorer. if you get an error message, it is a pc program.
what you can do, is install activesync or wmdc (depending on your desktop os) on your pc and install the apps you want, on your pc. normally that would install them, the next time you connect to your cradle/cable. since you don't have one, you should track down the cab files. on windows 7 they are located somewhere in c:\windows\windowsmobile\. i believe on xp it would be program files\active sync\
usually those installer routines extract a cab file in one of those paths and copy it to the device to be installed then.
also, if you don't have the possibility to sync, you should make regular backups of your pim data, best done with:
dotFred's PimBackup V2.8 for WM5 and above Download (Mirror)

thanks sir. that would probably help me installing those exe files.
i really have a hard time maintaining ang pimping my ba without the usb cable. still waiting for my cable to arrive here.
but then again, thank you for the information you have shared with me sir..

Extract SMS on WP7

Hello there,
just for your info - maybe it helps somebody:
after some days of trying i found the shortmessages (with tel-number etc.) and some other stuff in a file:
1. Explore your phone with Windows Phone Device Manager
2. goto \Application Data\
3. Add "\Microsoft" to the path (under the file-explorer logo)
4. goto Outlook\Stores\DeviceStore
5. Rename "store.vol" to something like "store.vol.txt" (it is mandatory to rename this file - without this step the file is in use by outlook)
6. extract it (drag n drop)
7. run perl script (#perl test.pl store.vol.txt)
8. See output
Maybe one of you could build a backup application or something like that!
Link to perl script:
http://uploaded.to/file/he26q0d2
Original source of script:
http://www.pocketpcjunkies.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/pocketpc-dev/21040/Reading-pim-vol-EDB-File-on-a-PC
Edit:
Don't know if you've seen it:
\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Stores\DeviceStore\data
ALL emails and other messages + contact-pictures + signature (three sizes) (just edit the file extension to .html or .jpeg - hex edit helps to find what is right )
\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer
-> TabsStorage.bin: Opened tabs from internet explorer (where are the cookies?! )
\Applications\Data\82A23635-5BD9-DF11-A844-00237DE2DB9E\Data\IsolatedStore
ALL Facebook-Information (if app is installed), including messages, pictures, notifications etc. etc.
\Application Data\Location\Cache
Wifi & GSM Data when features is enabled in WP7-preferences (encrypted?! don't know..)
Much more to come...
greets
endeffekt

Thanks! Looks interesting, I might try that!
Hey just wondering but does syncing with outlook have the option to sync texts? Only reason I wonder is because you said that file was in use by outlook....

WP7SuperFan said:
Thanks! Looks interesting, I might try that!
Hey just wondering but does syncing with outlook have the option to sync texts? Only reason I wonder is because you said that file was in use by outlook....
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Hey,
i just THINK it's in use
If you look at this file without renaming it's at 0,00 KB and you can't extract it. Maybe the contacts-tile or something else is using it

Hi Endeffekt,
thank you for this great hint!
But one more question before I try. Is it possible, to rename the file after the procedure back to "store.vol" without losing the messages on the phone?

schluff1 said:
Hi Endeffekt,
thank you for this great hint!
But one more question before I try. Is it possible, to rename the file after the procedure back to "store.vol" without losing the messages on the phone?
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WP7 creates a copy of this file (automatic), so no problemo sir

Great! Alle messages are there. But the script doesnt work for me.
Now we need a smart developer who can make a viewer for it.
Is there a way to copy the vol file back to the phone? Or is the file always locked? For restore reasons...

I think this is very interesting (possibility to backup/restore SMS), so probably we should keep it on the front page so the devs could notice it.

Has anybody tried to restore that store.vol into the device after a reset? I mean rename the current store.vol to any filename, then copy the backed up store.vol to the phone and restart.
I'd like to try but i need to get hold all my current sms!

Pixa1 said:
I think this is very interesting (possibility to backup/restore SMS), so probably we should keep it on the front page so the devs could notice it.
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i agree
thanks a lot Endeffekt for sharing such important information
i sent the file to my pc but still couldn't edit it,
if anyone know other way than perl script please share,
i'm trying to edit the file and insert old sms from my old phone
thanks

Gray.Fox said:
i agree
thanks a lot Endeffekt for sharing such important information
i sent the file to my pc but still couldn't edit it,
if anyone know other way than perl script please share,
i'm trying to edit the file and insert old sms from my old phone
thanks
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Hint: it's an EBD database (like other files too)

Don't know if you've seen it:
\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Stores\DeviceStore\data
ALL emails and other messages + contact-pictures + signature (three sizes) (just edit the file extension to .html or .jpeg - hex edit helps to find what is right )
\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer
-> TabsStorage.bin: Opened tabs from internet explorer (where are the cookies?! )
\Applications\Data\82A23635-5BD9-DF11-A844-00237DE2DB9E\Data\IsolatedStore
ALL Facebook-Information (if app is installed), including messages, pictures, notifications etc. etc.
\Application Data\Location\Cache
Wifi & GSM Data when features is enabled in WP7-preferences (encrypted?! don't know..)

da_mayhem said:
Has anybody tried to restore that store.vol into the device after a reset? I mean rename the current store.vol to any filename, then copy the backed up store.vol to the phone and restart.
I'd like to try but i need to get hold all my current sms!
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I will try this today

endeffekt said:
I will try this today
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How was it?

endeffekt said:
Hint: it's an EBD database (like other files too)
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thanks endeffekt for the hint i'll look into it thanks alot
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I will try this today
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i hope you or anyone can try and confirm i have only one device i can't risk it
also couldn't try it on my emulator i think i misconfigured something
if i find anything i will post here

SMS retreival on Windows phone 7 using device manager
Hey all.
I have an Samsung Omnia phone 7. Dev unlocked. Running 7.0.7004.0
Anyone any idea how to view the file in question? I need to download this file, and save the SMS entries to my PC.
When I use device manager, I cant see a folder called
\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Stores\DeviceStore
I mean, when I copy and paste the above text into the path, its just beeps and doesnt show anything.
On the root under file explorer, I have
My Documents (which is empty)
Windows (lots of files in it)
-ActiveSync
-Application Data
--KeyStorage
-AppMgr
-ColdInit
-eventlog
and a few others
When I open the Application Data folder, I only have a 'Key Storage' (certainly no Microsoft folder, and I tried typing it incase it was hidden or something , but just a ping sound and no refresh of the file list)
and when I open Key Storage, I have no files.
Any help working out why I cant see these folders / store.vol file would be very much appreciated
Does Windows Phone Device Manager not support this functionality on the Omnia?
Thanks

this should be a sticky, and testers needed

Using the diagnosis code 5**6244*3
I was able to open the Apps Launcher and Shortcuts Menu and can confirm that the path \Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Stores\DeviceStore exists on my Focus.
In that folder, I have:
temp
0
4
6
3
19
8
Each of these folders has a list of single alpha named folders (a, b, c, d, e, etc...)
Each of these alpha folders has a single .dat file
I haven't tried to extract those files to try to play with them. I don't know how I would with the Focus... But just confirming the path exists on my Focus and has the .dat files

thank you munkeyphyst, still waiting for endeffekt

endeffekt said:
Hint: it's an EBD database (like other files too)
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Thanx for your hard work... Any success???? i'm intrested in the extraction of sms in the form which can b read on computer. i tried as you said renamed and copied to computer but i can not read that in computer... is it encrypted ?? Any help in that is appreciated.......

I've checked out all the EDB recovery/readers on teh net and cannot open one of these "edb" files from the phone.
if anyone knows the architecture of the file, I can parse it and have a program ready quickly.
some talk about EDB

Problems Folder to Android 7 ?

Hi,
Problem met with Android 7:
Creation of a folder with an fil manager in the HTC10, it creates well a visible folder with the device.
But connected in USB this folder appears as a file and not a folder!! With Windows10.
What is the cause this problem?
Conversely to create a folder by the PC in USB both have well a folder.
To make a backup with Titanium Backup it creates a file and not a folder! Thus not possible to open with a PC connected in USB.
Test to my rom and Leedroid it's the same problem !!!!!!
An idea on this problem?
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Interesting ...
What application did you use for creating the folder?
I just tested this using ES File Explorer, created a new folder as per usual.
Once connected to my Win10 computer, that folder is valid and treated as a folder .. no issue to report sorry.

stretchnz said:
Interesting ...
What application did you use for creating the folder?
I just tested this using ES File Explorer, created a new folder as per usual.
Once connected to my Win10 computer, that folder is valid and treated as a folder .. no issue to report sorry.
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Hi,
Create with HtcFileManager ! And titanium creates one in first one backup! !!
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ahhh ok I had to install HTC File Manager so obviously not included in my factory HTC ROM (unless I removed it and forgot).
But yes I have the same problem as you, create a folder with HTC FM, connect to Win10 and it shows up as a file instead of folder!!
Maybe HTC FM is abandoned and not up to date enough to work on current ROMs?

Re.
With Es Explorer work.
But when Titanium Bckup creates its Folder it is a file in Windows !!!!

That is random indeed :/
can't help with that sorry

Re....
Tested on 3 Roma, Lee, Maximus, and my Pyrana.
The same problem on 3 with Titanium! Tested also on 3 PC Win10 and Win7.
A file is create instead of a folder (On the HTC appears well a folder)
Also test of several FilesManager.
A part is OK but others in the creation of a folder, give a file on the PC

I've never had problems with folders, per sé. But when creating a folder using my computer, it takes a good few minutes for the device to respond to anything after that. Its done it on pretty much every phone I've ever had. Is an odd thing.
Copying a folder over, or creating one on the device, no problem.

Re hello,
It is necessary to test to install Titanium on last one Nougat and this problem is going to be there! (Without creating a folde Titanium before) similar with the Rom Leedroid or ICE, to create a file with HtcManager on the memory of the HTC also problem ...
There is strong chance that this problem is bound to Nougat.
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