I was just thinking looking through all these new roms or just roms in general and it hard to determine which one on many levels. I just thought of an idea we should have a known issues for each rom or atleast the newer ones. I think it will be easier for people to address the problem or atleast see all the known issues with that rom. I think this would help out the developers alot too. This will save me 78 pages of looking through to see known problems. So it will just be there within a few pages.
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I was just thinking looking through all these new roms or just roms in general and it hard to determine which one on many levels. I just thought of an idea we should have a known issues for each rom or atleast the newer ones. I think it will be easier for people to address the problem or atleast see all the known issues with that rom. I think this would help out the developers alot too. This will save me 78 pages of looking through to see known problems. So it will just be there within a few pages.
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Most of the developers have a list of known issues and what is under development for the next revision at the beginning of their thread. There is no easy way to select a new ROM. I have narrowed my search for a Version 6.1 ROM to a couple of developers.
I also have been following the experiences of other users that have have a similar confirguration to mine. For example, same country and same service provider.
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Most of the developers have a list of known issues and what is under development for the next revision at the beginning of their thread. There is no easy way to select a new ROM. I have narrowed my search for a Version 6.1 ROM to a couple of developers.
I also have been following the experiences of other users that have have a similar confirguration to mine. For example, same country and same service provider.
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I'm not meaning just known issues but people have alot of other minor or they dont know what to do issues ie battery drain sync keyboard or running application issues and when there hidden in between 56 pages its hard for people to see what some of the issues that might be problems with that certain rom or it harder for developers to have to go through 32 pages of stuff to find what they need to address or fix. It's just an idea maybe to implement with newer verison or newer roms.
chicmagnet2k4 said:
I'm not meaning just known issues but people have alot of other minor or they dont know what to do issues ie battery drain sync keyboard or running application issues and when there hidden in between 56 pages its hard for people to see what some of the issues that might be problems with that certain rom or it harder for developers to have to go through 32 pages of stuff to find what they need to address or fix. It's just an idea maybe to implement with newer verison or newer roms.
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The developers here usually do a pretty good job in following their own ROM's thread so they know what trouble people are having. Incidentally, that's one of my benchmarks for a good ROM: a cook that watches his thread and responds to people in trouble.
The problem is that 9 out of 10 people with problems have either third-party software conflicts or hardware problems or are just plain ignorant. (To be fair, I have of course made my share of ignorant posts as well.) To say that these are ROM issues is a little unfair I think.
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The problem is that 9 out of 10 people with problems have either third-party software conflicts or hardware problems or are just plain ignorant. (To be fair, I have of course made my share of ignorant posts as well.) To say that these are ROM issues is a little unfair I think.
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There is a lot of truth in what you say. ROMs on their own are usually ok; its the combination of software and install methods that leads to problems. The thing is no matter how hard you shout people always assume that its the ROM or the cook.
Case in point; I have been using Kin0kins ROMs for a little while now whilst I wait for Schaps to produce his killer ROM with the 21st century interface. K's roms are rock solid stable and fast and yet I had an instability problem after the last install.
Going through the painfull routine of "forensic investigation" of my install I discovered two things:
- I had inadvertently loaded up some software onto the SD card which had known instability problems if installed in this way. Once sorted, hey presto, one issue solved.
- 2nd issue was caused by a similar install but using software that was polled on a regular basis. Once the device went into hibernate mode it crashed, simply because the card could not wake up quickly enough to handle the software request.
Loading up old versions of software incompatible with WM6 is another popular one that tends to cause issues. Bottom line is there just is no substitute for rigour and research prior to software installs to ensure the good operation of a rom with the benefit of stability.
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The developers here usually do a pretty good job in following their own ROM's thread so they know what trouble people are having. Incidentally, that's one of my benchmarks for a good ROM: a cook that watches his thread and responds to people in trouble.
The problem is that 9 out of 10 people with problems have either third-party software conflicts or hardware problems or are just plain ignorant. (To be fair, I have of course made my share of ignorant posts as well.) To say that these are ROM issues is a little unfair I think.
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That is somewhat true but isnt all of my arguement I am a new member here and felt overwhelm when trying to look for a nice stable fast rom to flash and I thought about what made it hard for me. Which was there are tons of un needed comments so its like you have to go through 77 pages trying to see what this rom is about. Its overwhelming and crazy, if my way isnt all the way complete or just a bit too much it would be great for someone to think of a way to make it easier for a newbie or just people in general.
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Is this a good idea? as it causes fragmented discussion, eg. dt-apps2sd is something that works across devices but I see it discussed under one particular device meaning generally only owners of that device will take part in that discussion. BLN is another example.
chrcol said:
Is this a good idea? as it causes fragmented discussion, eg. dt-apps2sd is something that works across devices but I see it discussed under one particular device meaning generally only owners of that device will take part in that discussion. BLN is another example.
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BLN though can be pretty device specific... Even down to the actual kernel you're using... I think there's always going to be a need for device-specific discussion of these things tbh - I doubt that would change
Or a mod for a Sense ROM, wont work on different Sense ROMs and non Sense ROMs etc.
yeah roms make sense of course that doesnt bother me, was just a thought tho
i am a super omega ultimate noob lv. -99. i am wondering how to check on the latest status of the GSIII stable roms. i would like to know if/when CM will get the roms first or if xda gets them first. i like stable roms because i am a noob. my noobness knows no bounds. please help. i do dontate. thank you.
Right now, CM10 nightly 25 is working great
26 has exhibited a few irritating bugs but I haven't had any problems with nightly 25
Give it a run, it's phenomenal IMO
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i am a super omega ultimate noob lv. -99. i am wondering how to check on the latest status of the GSIII stable roms. i would like to know if/when CM will get the roms first or if xda gets them first. i like stable roms because i am a noob. my noobness knows no bounds. please help. i do dontate. thank you.
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Xda is just an outlet where people choose to post roms.
To check on the latest status of roms, you need to open the threads and read the OP. You also need to spend at least ten minutes reading each thread, That will tell you how stable each rom is and what kind of results people are having.
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Is there a place for specific roms that we can see a list of all known bugs? I've been trying to check on, for example, CM10, paranoid android, and AOKP in particular and havent been able to find any bug trackers at all. Without knowing what bugs there are and what will/wont affect me, I'm too hesitant to try any of the roms and have been suffering through t-mobile's dual "update ready" and "update needed" constant un-clearable notifications. I cant even apply the stock updates because I debloated and applying the update fails because I dont have the apps that the update is attempting to update. Updating would involve doing a full factory reset back to stock and THEN updating, which means i'm probably better off simply waiting for samsung's official JB update to roll out in the first place
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Is there a place for specific roms that we can see a list of all known bugs? I've been trying to check on, for example, CM10, paranoid android, and AOKP in particular and havent been able to find any bug trackers at all. Without knowing what bugs there are and what will/wont affect me, I'm too hesitant to try any of the roms and have been suffering through t-mobile's dual "update ready" and "update needed" constant un-clearable notifications. I cant even apply the stock updates because I debloated and applying the update fails because I dont have the apps that the update is attempting to update. Updating would involve doing a full factory reset back to stock and THEN updating, which means i'm probably better off simply waiting for samsung's official JB update to roll out in the first place
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Actually that would be a great idea. It would help out the entire community.
Right now the way things exist, you pretty much have to read through an entire rom thread to determine the benefits/bugs of any given rom.
You could, for example, start a list for any particular rom.. read the entire thread, then make your own thread detailing current known bugs and post it in the same forum. Then the OP of the rom thread could post your link in the first post making it easy for everyone to find.
That would serve two purposes - you would learn the information you're seeking and also become an instantly appreciated contributor to the site.
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I'm surprised the rom developers dont already have a system in place, though. The scope of the projects are presumably gargantuan collaborative works. i kind of assumed that they must have some sort of a bug tracking thing that they use between them. That bug tracking thing is what i've been venturing to find. There are a ton of user-specific bugs that I have no problem digging through the forums and figuring out myself, but what i'd love to see with roms is a list of "this is what we know isnt working yet. dont talk to us about this. we are working on it." or at the very least, "when you flash this rom, if you would like to help, run this command and upload the output HERE so we can fix some bugs we know about".
I'm coming from a linux world and it is very disconcerting to me to flash a rom, encounter a bug/error, and not be able to look at any sort of an error message or do anything to fix the problem except reboot/wipe/reflash and hope for the best. thats a very windows-y mentality to the whole thing, and i feel like if we're running linux on the phones we should be able to get a bit more involved in fixing our own problems a bit better too.
I guess what i'm trying to say is, i'd like to help and i have no clue where to even begin. with archlinux theres a beginners guide but with these roms its more of a "watch this youtube video and follow this tutorial but god help you if anyone thinks you are complaining about what people are doing for you for FREE".
EDIT: I found CM10's issue tracker, but there isnt anything specific for the GS3 there. The flicker and picasa sync issues arent even mentioned. Obviously Paranoid Android and Kang will have the same bugs as CM10, but im assuming that they'll have their own bugs introduced after they add in their own features and such.
ok.
ingenious247 said:
Right now, CM10 nightly 25 is working great
26 has exhibited a few irritating bugs but I haven't had any problems with nightly 25
Give it a run, it's phenomenal IMO
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thanks! will it be on the CM website or here?
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thanks! will it be on the CM website or here?
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Two things - one, if you're going to do a lot of flashing, and especially with CM10, you will want to install ROM Manager from the Google Play Store. It will make managing your updates/downloads easier
Two, there is a dedicated thread to CM10 in the "T-Mobile Galaxy S III Original Android Development" forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778217
Read a lot first - before you do anything.. unless you are a very experienced user.
If you have specific questions I will be happy to help
i have a question
ingenious247 said:
Two things - one, if you're going to do a lot of flashing, and especially with CM10, you will want to install ROM Manager from the Google Play Store. It will make managing your updates/downloads easier
Two, there is a dedicated thread to CM10 in the "T-Mobile Galaxy S III Original Android Development" forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778217
Read a lot first - before you do anything.. unless you are a very experienced user.
If you have specific questions I will be happy to help
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i've downloaded the CWM pro and the TB pro. i was wondering what exact ROMS i can use. There is also the difficulty of understanding which rom is exactly which. Is there a way to view the Change log? i'm a super noob. i'm really sorry.
Changelogs won't do you much good.
I recommend flashing everything through CWM (make sure you have 6.0.1.2 Touch - in my signature if not). I wouldn't use ROM Manager at all. Having automated tools is great, but learning how to do it yourself is even better. Plus, if you break something, knowning what you are doing makes it easier to fix. Automated tools hurt more than they help.
As for roms, your options pretty much are as follows:
CyanogenMod: AOSP, the closest thing we have to the stock Google firmware.
AOKP: Pretty much CyanogenMod with some extra options. Nothing extraordinary about those extra options, just some nice things like center clock, swagger toggles, and unicorns.
MIUI: iPhone look for Android.
ParanoidAndroid: Scalable - for tablets (imo).
Then you have the neverending amount of customized stock (TouchWiz) roms.
They are all under constant development. If you want "stable", stay on your stock firmware. All of the roms listed above are stable enough to use as a daily driver. They all have threads in the two Dev forums. But if you don't know what to pick, use CyanogenMod.
I still think ROM Manager is a great tool, it's how I started years ago and I still managed to learn what I needed to over time flashing manually
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I've searched, trawled and read through so many threads and cannot make my mind up which way to turn (I'm so indecisive). There is so much choice (which is a good thing in some ways and not so good in others) but it's confused the hell out of me. I could flash various ROM's and kernels all the while having to restore my data each time and run it for a while to see if it is suitable for my needs. This seems to the moderators general consensus for those asking what the 'best ROM' is (Understandable). But this (having to flash ROM's and kernels each time) is tedious and there is always some element of risk that you could end up with a bad flash the more you do this.
So here I am asking. Please note I am *NOT* asking which the best overall ROM is. I understand perfectly well that there is no best ROM and each ROM has different functionality and features that are suited to different peoples needs. I am asking which ROM suits *MY* needs. If moderators decide that I am asking what is the best ROM then I guess I will have to try harder to argue my case.
I don't mind if it's GB, ICS or JB - obviously I would *LOVE* to have a JB ROM but it's still in its infancy and has certain issues simply because there is and never will be an official JB ROM for my phone (Thanks Sony!).
My current setup is a 2011 Arc S currently running JJ Hybrid 3.1 (still) and ArcKnight kernel (forget which build).
I am not overly interested in fancy GUI's, themes, extra functionality or overclocking, although it would nice to have them 'just so long as they don't impact on performance and stability'.
Things I want.
#Rooted with CWM is a given obviously
#As lag free as possible (It takes several seconds to launch Contacts at present and laggy key presses in the phone dialer annoy)
#Good battery performance
#Increased memory
#Bloatware removed
#Removal of or fixed/tweaked default apps (For some reason the default browser sucks CPU/battery dry and I have disabled it on current ROM).
#Smooth 720p video (is this even possible either in the FW or through a mod?)
#Good camera performance (Use a mod?)
#Status bar with quick toggles and notifications
#Good WIFI, 2G,3G/HSDPA performance (especially if 3G is tweaked as I get poor signal in some places)
#Bravia engine (1 or 2?)
#Correctly functioning hardware including LED's/Side LED/Buttons/Sensors (brightness, rotation etc)
#STABILITY (as little bugs as possible basically)
#Easy upgrade path between builds (not having to wipe data each time although I realize this is sometimes required)
#WIFI tethering
I don't care much for HDMI output but if it works it's a bonus. Things like USB OTG and USB mass storage would also be useful but not essential.
I think that's all of it. If moderators still feel this is a 'best ROM' thread feel free to contact me privately to cast your warnings. Hopefully though they will see this is a bit more specific than that and actually asks more pertinent questions rather than a blanket 'which ROM is best' question.
Thanks for reading
I can't comment on a rom, but for camera, most definitely Cybershot mod . Pictures look amazing
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I can't comment on a rom, but for camera, most definitely Cybershot mod . Pictures look amazing
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Thanks. I will look into it. Seems it's only for ICS ROM's but if there is an ICS ROM that meets the above criteria I will check it out.
For me, right no, Atomic Gb 3.0 Xtreme Silencer is going to update it to 3.1 now, so u can flash it. It is the most complete ROM now for me, with almost everything u said in ur list
Download it here
Hi.
While this may not be a best ROM thread as you say, its just as equally annoying. You've listed what most of us want from a ROM, and as you say you've read this that and the other then its time to pick one and flash it. If you think the process of flashing custom ROMs is tedious then learn how to mod, tweak a stock ROM to your own liking then you won't need to rely on others to tell you what to flash.
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luiseteyo said:
For me, right no, Atomic Gb 3.0 Xtreme Silencer is going to update it to 3.1 now, so u can flash it. It is the most complete ROM now for me, with almost everything u said in ur list
Download it here
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How is video recording and playback and the camera?
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Hi.
While this may not be a best ROM thread as you say, its just as equally annoying. You've listed what most of us want from a ROM, and as you say you've read this that and the other then its time to pick one and flash it. If you think the process of flashing custom ROMs is tedious then learn how to mod, tweak a stock ROM to your own liking then you won't need to rely on others to tell you what to flash.
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How is video recording and playback and the camera?
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Did u read that? Flash and test yourself
We can't say, what fits you, we don't know your life. You know it the best, you should find the perfect one.
XDA is not a place, where people are slaves, stop being lazy and do something yourself aswell.
Look at ROM's overviews, features, functions, read comments (if you want to know more about the ROM) etc.
Try them, put them to the test in regular usage. Then you find one. We can't say, which one is good for you.
yeah he is right!
Atomic Gb is awesome !
xtremesilencer has done some great work to make it!
ohhh wait a min!
i am xtremesilencer that was a joke
and if you want to know about a rom then go to the thread or check the feedback
dont open new new threads !!!!!
I'm on ICS because of the mobile data manager (built in, doesn't work on gb) as i have a limited data plan.
I'm right now on the xperia t rom, it is really great, the battery lasts up to two days. (3-4 hours display on, around 10h mobile data and wifi is always on).
Using the stock 587 kernel. Never had such an amazing battery life
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Whilst I understand the sentiment of 'try them for yourself' and 'you are just being lazy' and 'read the comments' etc. It takes *TIME* I don't need overclocking. I don't need all the fancy themes. I don't need a ton of tweaks other than those that meet the basic requirements I have listed.
As I said whilst there is a healthy development community on this particular device, it is hard work to find the right ROM. I have to go through the list of ROMS, kernels and mods in the thread stickied in 'General' (I noticed at least one ROM is missing from that list btw). On the whole it does not tell me a lot other than name, ROM, base (GB, ICS, JB) and then you have to spend a lot of time trying to find out all the info about the ROM by going to the ROM's thread, read about it's features, how to install it, which kernels work best with it, how to fix, patch or workaround any problems found (usually buried deeper into the thread with sometimes 'hundreds' of replies so you might not know about the patches and workarounds until you actually install it and when you ask in the thread someone says it was mentioned earlier in the thread which you now have to search through) etc etc ad nauseam.
I'm just looking for a shortlist of ROM's to try based on others opinions that meet my criteria.
I do also believe that there should be a sticky that instead of ostracizing members for asking 'which is the best ROM' as there currently is (which I know can be annoying for the moderators) instead should offer opinions and experiences. Which ROM's offer which features and how well they perform and yes, perhaps even a poll.
This would be the 'go to' thread for all those people (including myself) who are stuck for choice.
But perhaps this is too much work (I guess you could say to me I should do it then and keep it updated since I am so interested in it)...
The forum is chaotic as it is. But this is the nature of forums.
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Whilst I understand the sentiment of 'try them for yourself' and 'you are just being lazy' and 'read the comments' etc. It takes *TIME* I don't need overclocking. I don't need all the fancy themes. I don't need a ton of tweaks other than those that meet the basic requirements I have listed.
As I said whilst there is a healthy development community on this particular device, it is hard work to find the right ROM. I have to go through the list of ROMS, kernels and mods in the thread stickied in 'General' (I noticed at least one ROM is missing from that list btw). On the whole it does not tell me a lot other than name, ROM, base (GB, ICS, JB) and then you have to spend a lot of time trying to find out all the info about the ROM by going to the ROM's thread, read about it's features, how to install it, which kernels work best with it, how to fix, patch or workaround any problems found (usually buried deeper into the thread with sometimes 'hundreds' of replies so you might not know about the patches and workarounds until you actually install it and when you ask in the thread someone says it was mentioned earlier in the thread which you now have to search through) etc etc ad nauseam.
I'm just looking for a shortlist of ROM's to try based on others opinions that meet my criteria.
I do also believe that there should be a sticky that instead of ostracizing members for asking 'which is the best ROM' as there currently is (which I know can be annoying for the moderators) instead should offer opinions and experiences. Which ROM's offer which features and how well they perform and yes, perhaps even a poll.
This would be the 'go to' thread for all those people (including myself) who are stuck for choice.
But perhaps this is too much work (I guess you could say to me I should do it then and keep it updated since I am so interested in it)...
The forum is chaotic as it is. But this is the nature of forums.
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Unfortunately, that's what most people would have to go through to actually find a rom that they would stick with. Luckily I tried 1 and never moved away because it was suffice. Here's a list to shorten the task, tremendously for you
Ultimate HD
Beautiful ICS
Jelly Sandwich - I've been using this one for months without changing. I'd recommend version 7.4 as it's stable and anything version 8 and above are a hassle to install and have ugly icons =/
Atomic GB - The only gingerbread based rom listed as opposed to ics so bear in mind the cybershot wouldn't work
I can't really comment on any of these roms' 'personal sufficiency' other than jelly sandwich, but these are the ones I would test if I were you good luck
well XDA is a dev site where devs share their creations for each other, they're not obliged to put them up here and frankly it takes a billion times more work to make a rom than to look through the ROM threads
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Xperia T ROM is the way to go!
I too was in the same state 3-4 months back and all I wanted was a stable & smooth ROM (better than stock, of course). So, I went thro most of the threads and based on the feedback of many, I narrowed down on Ultimate HD. Sure its a better ROM and I was happy using it for close to 2 months. But after prolonged usage, it started to lag. Only then, I started experimenting with multiple ROMs.
There are ROM u would start hating it immediately after installing it and there are which will make u to stick with it for a while. After testing bunch of ROMs, I finally landed on Xperia T ROM. Its not the most talked about ROM around, but definitely has its own fan following and Im definitely going to be one among them. It has all the MODs that I wanted (toggles, latest apps, cybershot, small apps etc...) and yet it offered smoothness and free RAM of close to 100 MB. Most importantly, it offered loads of options while installing (in Aroma Installer). So, you can pick and choose whatever u want. It is one of the few ROMs wherein Sound Enhancements in Walkman player and Online mode in Album works out of the box without any tweaking!
So, I suggest you to give it a shot. Im sure u wont regret it
Hmm. Just read that T ROM has broken wifi tethering. Also read that AOSP ROM's don't have in call mute? It's quite a bit involved installing that ROM by the look of things too. I will monitor the thread for a while though and ask about the in call mute feature.
Sometimes, it's not about the ROM, it's the mods you flash on the ROM. I have been using stock ROM for quite some time and I have flashed a few mods to tweak and improve the stock ROM. You can go to the Themes and Apps section to find these kind of mods.
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AW: [Q] Which ROM offers the following?
Use the stock rom and flash mods you want..
Your mixing everyrthing up, battery and performance, perfect stability and design....
does anyone know, or have a reason, or encounted in a problem with CM 10.1 cuz i recently installed CM 10.1 stable on my ATT S3 and it keeps restarting itself after 20/30 minutes tops, maybe longer but once in a while it randomly restarts itself
installed everything perfectly, no reason to be acting crazy since its from CYANOGENMOD TEAM but ROMS are not perfect or as good as STOCK ROMS (that come pre-installed on your device)
any issues, bugs, any kind of thing you have noticed with cm 10.1 yu can post it here
new upcoming features, fixes, what should be there or shouldnt be there, whats missing everything
HELPING EACH OTHER SOLVE SIMPLE/SERIOUS with CM 10.1 and above ISSUES
am currently running Synergy ROM 4.1.2 Stock rom with ZIGGY KERNEL (clocked at 1.3 Ghz) and its pretty sweet, stable, good battery, perfomance is top notch for a stock based rom that come with all samsung boatload
SO DUMP ALL THE PROBLEMS/SOLUTIONS IN THIS NEW THREAD FOR CM 10.1 AND ABOVE - ATT S3 I747
ANYTHING YU THINK IS COOL/AWSOME ABUT CM 10.1 ON YOUR AWSOME S3 GET IT HERE
Or just post them in this thread which already gets developer support.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778270
Not all phones are created equal. You should try the newer nightlies since they're just as stable. I haven't had any issues with Cyanogenmod. The reboot bug has been squashed a couple of months ago for me.
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Or just post them in this thread which already gets developer support.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778270
Not all phones are created equal. You should try the newer nightlies since they're just as stable. I haven't had any issues with Cyanogenmod. The reboot bug has been squashed a couple of months ago for me.
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thanks for that, but this thread is based on everything to do with cyanogenmod 10.1 and above, clearly i am not a fan of nightlies as to do with updating my phone every second (thats a hustle for me cuz i gotta backup everything/reinstall everything again) and not to mention i have better things to do than just updating to a new bulds everyday or trying new roms
ihave too much variable things on my phone to delete for reasons like nightlies
THE REBOOT BUG STILL exists quite suprisingly for me as you dont have problems with nightlies or the reboot bug too
the thread yu mentioned is helpful but new ideas, new thoughts, easy to find a solution for a problem/question and navigate easly without having to dig it up tens of pages, a new thread with new people/same but fast replies, nice to workaround with.
am not trying to break any XDA rules/regulations or whatsoever by posting/asking a question or starting a thread thats already there(content and information that i need) but a new thread thats clean, new ideas about the rom, new problems/solutions is what this thread is all about
PHONES COULD BE EQAUL BUT ROMS ARE NOT SAME/DONT WORK SAME ON XXXXX PHONE
winosxbuntu said:
thanks for that, but this thread is based on everything to do with cyanogenmod 10.1 and above, clearly i am not a fan of nightlies as to do with updating my phone every second (thats a hustle for me cuz i gotta backup everything/reinstall everything again) and not to mention i have better things to do than just updating to a new bulds everyday or trying new roms
ihave too much variable things on my phone to delete for reasons like nightlies
THE REBOOT BUG STILL exists quite suprisingly for me as you dont have problems with nightlies or the reboot bug too
the thread yu mentioned is helpful but new ideas, new thoughts, easy to find a solution for a problem/question and navigate easly without having to dig it up tens of pages, a new thread with new people/same but fast replies, nice to workaround with.
am not trying to break any XDA rules/regulations or whatsoever by posting/asking a question or starting a thread thats already there(content and information that i need) but a new thread thats clean, new ideas about the rom, new problems/solutions is what this thread is all about
PHONES COULD BE EQAUL BUT ROMS ARE NOT SAME/DONT WORK SAME ON XXXXX PHONE
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First and foremost, no OS or software, including android, is perfect. Secondly starting a new thread does not mean it will not get "cluttered" either. The ROM thread for CM is not as bad as you make it out to be. The idea is that the newest material covers the most recent nightlies. It is not that difficult to go to the end and work backwards. In regards to you random reboots, look on JIRA as it exists for this very reason. Take a logcat and report on JIRA if not already covered. JIRA gives you all the bugs reported and their current status towards a fix. This is a wasted thread for this very reason.
As far as ROMs being different...that is the point. Each developer(s) put their own spin on it. That is what makes these development threads so great. You can look for a ROM that you like best. Some ROMs are more universal (but you still need your device specific version), such as CM, while others are device specific.
And phones are not created equal. They may look the same, have the same hardware specs, and all else seemingly equal, but slight manufacturing imperfections make them different. Two people can have the exact same phone from the same carrier, manufactured on the same day, but due to some ever so slight differences from imperfections, ROMs will work differently on each. For instance, in your case CM reboots randomly. For others, such as myself, this is no longer an issue. However, it is possible that another ROM will work great on your phone but not on mine.
While you say CM is not perfect like the stock rom, the stock rom is not perfect either. I have AT&T and the stock rom has several issues. The lockscreen securities can be bypassed, the alarm likes to not work at random times (software bug), and every now and then I get a battery plummet after a phone call when the phone switches between 4G and 4G LTE. Others may or may not have these issues but they seem to be rather common (the security bypass affects all S3 phones that were on 4.1.1 that I am aware of). For this reason I stick to custom roms because I do not have these problems which I personally view as severe for me (Aside from protecting my data and enjoying battery life, I rely on my phone as an alarm clock). Now that 4.2.2 has come as far as it has, it is stable enough that I can use it as a daily driver. I knowingly accept any bugs that are there because typically the ones that exist do not have a large affect on me, if at all, unlike the stock rom.
This is about development, but is a question, so I figured I'd put it in questions....
I'm just curious, what happened to the 'old days' when the first post or three in the ROM threads contained the known bugs, issues, what's working, what's not, what's been fixed, etc for the ROM the thread was about, which was then updated as problems were fixed and/or new issues found? I'm not sure if other ROMs had it, but the Cyanogen ROMs used to. It was nice when you could look at the top of the thread and have an idea of what was working and what wasn't. Now, the thread is just started with virtually no info, and to try to wade through hundreds or thousands of posts to try to find out what's working and what's not, what has been fixed, etc is a royal pain.
Any chance of getting that kind of thing back so the information is easy to find? I would have to believe that would reduce the posts asking if this or that was working at least a little.
That's all dependent upon the person who Starts/Runs the thread. Also you have to keep in mind that having a Rom thread is a fairly large undertaking in, and of itself. So it is sometimes difficult to keep everything completely up to date. Especially if you have more than one.