As T-Mobile rolls out their 3G service, it appears 3G HTC phones automatically lock onto the 3G signal (UMTS) which T-Mobile has politely firewalled until they rollout the plans???? So if you have a Kaiser or Hermes in S.Florida you currently have no data access on Edge as the phone defaults to the firewalled UMTS.
SO the question is any of the tech geniuses here know how to switch off UMTS, changing the bands does not help as UMTS, and GSM bands match up (on hermes), switching to a NON- T-mobile frequency also switches the GSM to Non-T-Mobile.
???? Beware if this happened in S.Florida as the network enlarges, you too could be next.!!
By no means am I an expert. But I do know a lot of the cooked roms have an option in the commanager which allows us to turn on/off 3G
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Again, I'm no genius at this(That statement makes my reply a little bit more flame retardant) But I hope that helps. I can't wait until they hit the 3G switch here in Chicago.
Wish it was that simple!
Unfortunately it appears that this may disable the 3G data connection but not the radio. Hence the network still sees a 3G phone and treats it as such. The only way to get around the problem is to actually de-activate UMTS so the network sees an Edge only capable phone. Thanks for the help though!
I'm surprised your phone logs on to the T-Mobile UMTS network. It uses the 2100/1700 MHz AWS band, which no Windows Mobile device supports yet. Are you sure you're logging on to T-Mobile, instead of AT&T Mobility? My phone does that from time to time when reacquiring a signal.
Try forcing your phone to connect to T-Mobile instead of using automatic network selection.
Dumb question, but what if it is detecting the 2100mhz half of the UMTs connection.
I've heard (and I'm pretty sure) that the 2100MHz AWS band that T-Mobile won is different than the standard 2100MHz used worldwide. Plus, I don't think the radio will be able to register on the network anyway if it only has a one-sided conversation with the tower...
kltye said:
I've heard (and I'm pretty sure) that the 2100MHz AWS band that T-Mobile won is different than the standard 2100MHz used worldwide. Plus, I don't think the radio will be able to register on the network anyway if it only has a one-sided conversation with the tower...
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Yeah, the TMobile uses a combo of 2100mhz and 1700 mhz, while Europe is 2100/1900.
Chances are its picking up the AT&T UMTS network, but you can't roam on it. Are you using a stock ROM? If you're not, go under settings > phone > band (most cooked ones will have this), and change it to strictly GSM. That will lock it to GSM until you change it back.
If you are on a stock ROM, there are various tweaks you can get, I know HermesTweak will let you (yes its old, I stick to cooked ones so I dont know any other standalone ones). Or hell, you could even install Schap's 6 button comm manager as it has the 3g option on there.
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So the previous filling which was found in early april (filed on Feb 11, 2009) and was though to be t-mobile's rhodium although the test report showed it was sporting At&t's 3G bands, 1900 and 850MHz, is now outlived by a newer filing.
Issue date April 02, 2009 FCC ID NM8RHOD210 with t-mobile's 3G 1900mhz and 1700mhz
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NM8RHOD100 FCC Test report pdf
NM8RHOD210 FCC Test Report PD
You guys think since the At&t banded rhodium was filed earlier that it would be released before t-mobile's RHOD210?
Now I just need a price & release date so I know how much longer I'll be keepng my original Wing
tbonezx11 said:
Now I just need a price & release date so I know how much longer I'll be keepng my original Wing
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wow, your still on a wing!? I've got a classmate thats still using it with the original shipped rom from when it first came out! I hope you've atleast updated yours.
I thought T-Mobile 3G freq. is 1700/2100 AWS... Where's the 2100 freq. in the FCC docs? I couldn't find it...
OPPS... nevermind. I just checked the FCC docs for the htc dream (aka G1) and they only list the 1700 AWS downlink freq. also. So... I wonder what the 1900 WCDMA band is for? It's BAND I, so does that mean Europe or possibly for AT&T also?! I thought Band II was 1900...
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I thought T-Mobile 3G freq. is 1700/2100 AWS... Where's the 2100 freq. in the FCC docs? I couldn't find it...
OPPS... nevermind. I just checked the FCC docs for the htc dream (aka G1) and they only list the 1700 AWS downlink freq. also. So... I wonder what the 1900 WCDMA band is for? It's BAND I, so does that mean Europe or possibly for AT&T also?! I thought Band II was 1900...
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Band I = 1900Mhz uplink and 2100Mhz downlink but it's preferred to as UMTS 2100Mhz.
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Band I = 1900Mhz uplink and 2100Mhz downlink but it's preferred to as UMTS 2100Mhz.
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Thanks for clearing that up! The Wiki definitions weren't that clear to me...
fone_fantatic, I was wondering that same thing, in regards to the dates of the FCC filings. Everything is of course rumors at this point, but it's been said that T-Mobile will be selling it first. However, as you said, the first model to pass FCC was clearly not T-Mo, contrary to original postings. Thing is, that doesn't confirm or deny anything either. T-Mobile could still have rights to selling the phone first. We do at least have a rumored (there's that word again) date on T-Mobile, but I haven't heard a word about an at&t release, though the TP2 is clearly listed for them in that HTC roadmap layout.
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but I haven't heard a word about an at&t release, though the TP2 is clearly listed for them in that HTC roadmap layout.
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lol yeah, as the Barium, with a GREEN keyboard.
I have an unlocked telus t989d
I will be moving to the states in a few months and i'm wondering if this phone will work on any network in the states. and if so, which network will it work on?
Thanks
Probably AT&T and Tmobile, as they carry identical phones except the AT&T version has LTE. The T-Mo ver is the same thing, but im guessing you could flash a t-mobile modem just to be sure.
Someone with more experience might know better though.
our phone woks on any cell provider in the world except JAPAN, just plug in a SIM card from your favourite local provider where you gonna be staying during the vacation / visit
Would it still be possible to flash an AT&T modem and just use their 3G network instead of the LTE? Just in case you're moving into
a more rural area where T-Mobile doesn't have acceptable coverage.
SGS2 T989 on Synergy kernel with beastMOD
I'm a quick learner, teach me something.
T-Mobile will be your best call since the phones are exactly the same in specs and radios, if you go to AT&T you won't get 3G coverage only 2G.
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T-Mobile will be your best call since the phones are exactly the same in specs and radios, if you go to AT&T you won't get 3G coverage only 2G.
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that is 200% incorrect
the T989 can get 3G/4G on any HSPA provider, except CDMA
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T-Mobile will be your best call since the phones are exactly the same in specs and radios, if you go to AT&T you won't get 3G coverage only 2G.
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AllGamer said:
that is 200% incorrect
the T989 can get 3G/4G on any HSPA provider, except CDMA
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+1 Confirmation as to what AllGamer says; I use an unlocked SGH-T989 on AT&T and get 3G/HSPA speeds. The icon just stays as 3G on stock rom.
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I've read that the 3 umts bands on specs are 850, 1900 and 2100
And that T-mobile works on 1700 and 2100
But does it actually works on umts? Does anyone have any experience with this on 4g from tmobile?
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The only sim I've got is from t-mobile. Now I own this unlocked captivate glide which I love, but I'm not sure if it will work.
I think unlocked phones can only get "edge" network
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I think unlocked phones can only get "edge" network
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nothing like that.. unlocking does not make a difference with phone's capabilities and frequencies.. once again check the frequent of T-Mobile..
i am using 3g Frequency with unlocked phone
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Funny enough, I just got back from NY and used my (Rogers) unlocked glide on T-Mobile's network. It was, sad to say, edge-only. It's fine for short trips but I'd recommend AT&T if you're staying down there a while.
This is my 3G status with an AT&T unlocked SCG.
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This is my 3G status with an AT&T unlocked SCG.
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Good thing the OP wasn't asking about 4G/UMTS
Oh wait, yes, yes, he was.
Long Story Short: No 4G for you - no 1700 antenna = no 4G
L4T
Lookin4Trouble said:
no 1700 antenna = no 4G
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Are you sure there's no 1700 antenna?
1. *#*#197328640#*#*
2. Select [1] Debug Screen
3. Select [8] Phone control
4. Select [7] Network control
5. Select [2] Band Selection
6. Select [4] Combi Bands []
it lists WCDMA 1700(FDD IV)
but enabling it doesn't work...
on HTC there used to be different radio firmware, are there any available for Glide?
From something I remember reading not long ago, most of the radio controller chips in high end phones are capable of the 8 primary umts bands. The problem is in the antenna and frequency filters in the phone. Doesn't matter how capable the radio is if it doesn't have a way of getting the data in or out.
What app did u use to get those stats (via screenshot u posted)
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I have an S4 for myself that I bought in Thailand where I live and everything works great. Two weeks ago I bought a T-Mobile unlocked S4 from a friend who was leaving Thailand and selling everything. The unlocked T-Mobile S4 works great just like my other one except it won't receive 3G here in Thailand, only 2G. I've added the correct APN, double checked everything and I can't figure out anything else to do to get it to receive 3G. Anyone have any other suggestions?
You need to verify in which frequencies your carrier operates.
I think tmo Galaxy s4 operates in 850*MHz, 1700,1900,2100.
You can also dial *#*#4636#*#*
You'll be able to change if you want Lte, wcdma, Gsm. Try to set in wcdma (preferred).
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Thanks for the info, I'll give it a try. AIS Thailand, my carrier, uses 2100 so I figured the T-Mobile should get 3G here also. I already went into settings and set it to GSM/WCDMA auto, I didn't see the other setting about WCDMA preferred.
Try Wcdma only. Was your friend able to use 3g there?
Where are you located? Make sure you are in a 3g coverage area.
Take a look at this:
http://www.sensorly.com/map/2G-3G/TH/Thailand/AIS/gsm_52001
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Try Wcdma only. Was your friend able to use 3g there?
Where are you located? Make sure you are in a 3g coverage area.
Take a look at this:
http://www.sensorly.com/map/2G-3G/TH/Thailand/AIS/gsm_52001
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Yes we are in a 3G coverage area and my other S4 receives H+ all of the time, it's only the T-Mobile that only receives edge. I'll try the wcdma only.
Thanks for the suggestions guys but neither one works. When I set it to WCDMA only I can't get an Internet connection at all, I have to revert to the GSM/WCDMA auto to get the Edge connection. Bummer because the Edge connection here is so much slower but maybe the hardware in the T-Mobile just won't receive it.
Does this phone get LTE on T-Mobile and if so how can I tell if I'm getting it? I get H+/4G/DC data icons depending on the ROM but the fastest down/up speeds I get ever is 14mbps/2mbps 99% of the time I'm getting 5 down/1 up with full bars the T-Mobile coverage map shows my entire area Dallas, TX with high speed Internet. Am I not getting LTE? I see people posting 25+ speeds I have never achieved anything near that.
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Does this phone get LTE on T-Mobile and if so how can I tell if I'm getting it? I get H+/4G/DC data icons depending on the ROM but the fastest down/up speeds I get ever is 14mbps/2mbps 99% of the time I'm getting 5 down/1 up with full bars the T-Mobile coverage map shows my entire area Dallas, TX with high speed Internet. Am I not getting LTE? I see people posting 25+ speeds I have never achieved anything near that.
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I am using ATT phone on T Mobile and I can get LTE without any issue. Based on your speed, it appears to me that you are getting HSPA+ speed. Have you checked your APN to make sure you set it as fast.t-mobile.com (or make sure you set what T Mobile recommends: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-10361)
Yes my APN is the T-Mobile US LTE, my speeds are no different with the fast.t-mobile.com APN or the epc.tmobile.com APN. If I set my APN identical to that link it just switches back it won't let me use those settings. Does this mean I don't get LTE when phone first boots it doesn't get data for awhile and shows this
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If you compare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility
LTE bands:
700 MHz Block B 17 LTE 4G Active Main LTE band providing complete coverage
1700 MHz AWS 4 LTE 4G Active Additional LTE band for more bandwidth in select markets
1900 MHz PCS 2 LTE 4G Active Additional LTE band for more bandwidth in select markets[31]
2300 MHz WCS 30 LTE 4G Active[32]
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
1700/2100 MHz AWS 4 LTE 4G In Service/Building out Covers 230 million POPs as of July, 2014 [78][79]
700 MHz Block A 12 LTE 4G A-block rollout has begun Spectrum acquired from Verizon Wireless [80]
1900 MHz PCS 2 LTE 4G On air [81]
And the AT&T GN2 (i317) supports Band 2 and 17, so it makes sense that you could get LTE on both networks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_II