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Hi. Are there actually any ported ROMs for the Uni that allows a super-clean (i.e. purely Microsoft) WM5? Thanks.
This is exactly what i am here at the Forum for please someone step up?
Cause i foudn one in general by name one time but im not sure if they are shapped for the Universal
I guess to clarify ...
A Clean version of WM5 shapped for the Uni if possible
I want to amke sure i do not lose any features
Please help thanks
rightnow im on the newest qtek but is actign weird so im going back to my orignal imate
don't install the extended ROM...
Can you explain SIMPLY which file is the extended ROM?
philby said:
Can you explain SIMPLY which file is the extended ROM?
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What "ady" meant was:
1st: Install Buzz's Ext ROM Unlocker and unlock your Ext ROM.
2nd: Cut and paste them to your SD Card and save a copy on your computer for backup.
3rd: Perform a hard reset. Since you already took off the Ext ROM, you now have a pure Microsoft OS running on your device.
To answer your question, the Ext ROM is what you see being installed when you perform a hard reset. It is indicated by a progress bar during installation after a hard reset. The Ext ROM contains the customizations provided by the "Brand" name of your device.
The simpliest way to avoid the installation of the Ext ROM, if you don't want to unlock it is:
1st: Perform a hard reset.
2nd: "IMMEDIATELY" perform a soft reset by pressing the reset pin as soon as you see the "Microsoft Today Screen". By doing this, the installation of the Ext ROM is by-passed.
If you are going to ask me where to find the Unlocker. Just do a search. Hope this cleared it up.
Thanks for the excellent reply. Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents? I am guessing this would be like selecting a corporate install on the O2 XDA EXEC?? Thanks again for any reply.
philby said:
Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents?
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Any customisations your operator has made. It's hard to say what exactly as that changes per ExtROM (and each new version of Windows Mobile by each operator has a new ExtROM so...)
If you don't install the ExtRom you have plain Windows Mobile, if you install the Extended ROM (which it will be default) it adds patches, customisations (backgrounds, sounds, GPRS settings etc), button configurations, home page settings, add icons, remove icons, custom programs etc.
My advise is to read the wiki (link in top left) open up your ExtendedROM as the poster above advised and then customise it how you want, or just by pass it completely each time and add in what you want manually.
philby said:
Thanks for the excellent reply. Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents? I am guessing this would be like selecting a corporate install on the O2 XDA EXEC?? Thanks again for any reply.
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xanth is absolutely right. The Ext ROM changes with each "Brand". I am attacching a link for the O2 Ext ROM explanation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32527
Some applications in the Ext ROM, you can deduce what it is made for like "default_Backgamon etc...(which installs the game backgamon in Imate Ext ROM) and some are similar to O2's, so let it be your guide.
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you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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Actually ALL WORKS FINE with a clean install, as mentioned above, the only thing you might have to add is the settings for MMS, and video call capabilities. But ALL SOFTWARES INSTALLED WORKS. From BT to WiFi, camera app, voice dial, etc... I know because I already tried it.
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you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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Well that depends on the base Windows Mobile ROM. Some will have some features, while some won't (won't fit possibly?) and would require the ExtROM to install them.
I appreciate this is a Universal thread, but one example is the BlueAngel. The SX66 doesn't come with a camera so it's ROM doesn't contain camera software and if you used that on a regular BlueAngel (XDA IIs for example) you'd need to install the camera software seperately.
Hope this actually makes sense.
what about a real clean ROM...
i mean a ROM that does not contain any of those "dog barking" junks media files and themes (there is around 8MB of these), as well as unnecessary EXTROM files. YET sparing drivers for camera, bluetooth , and other crucial drivers.
thanx
go it
then you are correct to hard reset then soft reset before your device wants to load the ext-rom
unnecessary media files are not in the ext rom
they come with the winows folder and the my doc. they r more than 8mb , and they serving for NOTHING... so stopping the erom wont save you from them
Hi all,
I tried searching for an answer to the above but couldn't find a direct answer to it:
Are there any performance benefits of baking a program into a custom ROM vs installing the program into ROM after a "lite" custom ROM is flashed?
Presently my preference is to use a "lite" ROM with very basic programs and maximum available ROM/RAM after install. I'm considering whether its worth the trouble to bake my own ROM with my frequently used custom programs (e.g. phonealarm, wisbar).
The obvious disbenefit of baking a 3rd party program into a custom ROM is that its a little "harder" to upgrade to a newer version of the program -- i'm assuming installing over an older version in ROM takes away any performance benefit which the ROM version would have (pls correct me if i'm wrong here).
thanks for any comments in advance!
Im planning a Custom ROM Bake Guide at some point, im planning on baking in my standard apps such as Coreplayer/Phonealarm and VJay Apps.
AFAIK, the only advantage of cooking in apps is to make them readily available after a hard reset. I believe that cooking in 3rd party apps that get refreshed often is counter-intuitive as the ROM based versions will always take up space. Essentially an upgrade will then take double the space (even if you can actually install it).
There may be something to do with program vs. storage memory utilization though that would make it advantageous. I've never actually played with it.
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AFAIK, the only advantage of cooking in apps is to make them readily available after a hard reset. I believe that cooking in 3rd party apps that get refreshed often is counter-intuitive as the ROM based versions will always take up space. Essentially an upgrade will then take double the space (even if you can actually install it).
There may be something to do with program vs. storage memory utilization though that would make it advantageous. I've never actually played with it.
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Thanks for your insight.
From what I understand, all programs (WM5/6) needs to be loaded into RAM before execution and cannot be executed in place (XIP). So the only speed advantage i could imagine would be any 'addressing benefits' of programs pre-baked vs post-installed.
A somewhat related question would be whether there's a speed difference in installing a program in Storage ROM or Extended ROM.
cheers!
Just my 2 cents worth. In the Wizard forum, they mentioned that the lite version is much faster and responsive because the device\windows files are less. In the current cooking, everything needs to be in the \windows directory and then move to the different folders. as more files and application gets dump, it will generally move slower and affect the device response.
One way to check is whenever we access the \windows directory, we often has to wait a while before the contents gets display in the file explorer.
Now we are able to maximize the Storage Card space with a lite rom like Tazio . Hence, we can select our own cabs to install into different directory than \windows, oftenly \program files . eg: like JJ's Blacks etc....
However, if the cabs install back into the \windows directory, then there is no benefit as the no files in \windows directory increase slowing down the access.
Hence, most people will see a benefit with clean rom rather than application cooked into the rom.
cheers,
As I understand some of the ROMs run a set of cab-files aftewards. Is it possible to make an option that enable a user to choose a directory on the memorycard with cabfiles to be installed the same way on setup?
I ask because I need to innstall norwegian keyboard and settings, ant it would be nice to install the most usual cabfiles as well, would save me some time as I'm trying several of the ROMs issued here, and backup not allways compatible.
I don't believe this is possible as the phone does not see the card until the device is booted. Thus, this is why an extended rom is used onboard the device.
There is some apps that can do that. Not Automatic but you can choose 1 folder and then it will install all cab's inside that ROM.
Hey ya'll, I have a simple question.
I want to know if I can flash the ext rom from another HTC device onto my BA ext rom?
I just installed the 142 Tmo Uk rom, and was curious if I can grab the ext rom off of another Tmo USA device, so I have all the right settings and stuff?
TIA!
i wouldn't think so. may be able to do it, i wouldn't attempt it. i stripped my extrom, they don't actually have anything useful in them. just horrible themes and bad software.
you however could probably extract the extended rom from another device and copy the files and manually install them. that'd be easy enough i think.
yeah, flashing a rom from another device is not such a good idea, but since you are using wm2003, you can visit -=this tutorial=- and gain another 16mb of storage space and then just copy cabs that you want to the device or maybe even build you own extrom, to be copied to the sd card and installed automatically. to find out how that is done (actually pretty easy!) just use forum search and look for "cfg.txt" and Chef_Tony. i wrote some pretty long tutorials about that.
basicly it is just making an automated install routine for your most commonly used programs, so whenever you hard reset your device, the programs YOU want are installed, not those ridiculous t-mobile customizations, their pink dialer skin and things like that.
EDIT: btw. you should never take an entire extrom of another device. you never know, if maybe some of the things installed by the extrom are dependant of the display resolution or use device specific interfaces or mess around with device specific hardware buttons or drivers, you should extract the cabs and google their names, if you are not sure, what that actually does, so you can be sure, it will work on your blueangel!
have fun with that.
and @cerjam: don't be offended, your answer is completely right, i agree, just wanted to add a few little things
Perfect answers!
So, chef_tony, your telling me that it's ok to merge my extrom and storage in wm2003se? and then copy my cabs and write a cfg.txt of my own for an sd card?
I realize that I should do all the reading, but I'm the kinda guy who needs a generalized big picture before I start ripping apart all the details, so I'm looking for **** and jane/oversimplified answers.
Thanks, guys (and gals, if you are one)
I tried to upgrade my dopod 900 this morning from WM5 to WM6.1 using a file i downloaded here at xda. Looks like i got things wrong. After following screen instructions, and finally clicking on the FINISH button, my dopod's screen says Not For G4... I tried to hard reset, etc... But to no avail. This is my first time to do an upgrade..... What do i do now ? Could i still fix my dopod?
Welcome to forums
You have to flash a ROM what is compatible with G4 Universal
Have a look on my signature to select one.
Good luck,
thanx orb...
i also read and did the Mamaich method in the sticky... afterwards i got more confident flashing my rom knowing i cud still bring it to life again. hehe
i'll check other rom's and post some comments from a newbie's point of view...thanx! am learning........
No prob mate
We all were noobs sometime
Hi! I am new here. I have the same unit (Dopod 900). It runs in wm5. My question is can I Flash it from wm5 to wm6.5? Thanks!
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Yes you can, just go to my signature link and follow instructions on how to upgrade your ROM, you can go to WM 6, 6.1 or even 6.5
Here is my device info:
RAM size: 64 MB
Flash size 128 MB
Flash Chip type: G3
Data bus: 32 bits
It is my first time flashing a device. So I am digging all the info available. But I must admit I need help for I don't understand most of the terms and the things needed to be done in order to flash succesfully.
For instance, do I need to update my activesync before getting unto the procedure? Or are there any one who can give me a link for the instructions for newb. Thanks!
Uni 64 Mb - upgrading from MW5 to ???, only looking for more available memory
Hi all,
yep, still happy with my 2006 model Jasjar . Hard to resist a good offer on a used HD2, but am sticking to my Uni !!
As you can see in my signature I am still running the factory ROM. The only thing that I have been missing so far is push email and the security tools that come with that like remote erase etc... . But that was something I could live without.
I am pretty pleased with the software I am running. Only iGo8 is very demanding and freezes when things get to rough. But other then that, happy. Until recently. I installed SPB shell to get a more updated look and feel, and a few new apps that have fingerstyle and scrolling/flipping effects. Now I see my Uni is getting memory problems. With no apps open, only SPB shell running I have :
Storage: Total 43,50, in use: 36,34, Free: 7.16
Program: Total 50,16, in use: 39,71, Free 10:45
I have cleaned out my phone to the max to free Storage. Deleted all sms'es, and moved all pictures and videos to the SD card. Ran 2 programs to free up memory.
Program memory is decreasing to 6 or 7 when launching f.ex. youtubeplay, SPB TV, Opera, or any type of graphics game.
Conclusion is that I like the look and feel of my Uni, but it looks like I need more memory. I could upgrade from 64 to 128, but that is something I consider as a last way out. That is, if I can find a new OS that frees up enough memory on both Storage and Program. I found soem comments on WM6.1 where some say this is the best solution when all you need is more memory. But if true, how much improvement can this bring? Or are there any basic WM6.5 images out there that suite my needs better then WM6.1?
I have been reading about some of the 6.5 ROMs, and it looks like there are still all with a certain risk of failure at a certain point. My curent ROM is working great, no hick ups. so I would like to keep it that way ;-). Please your opinion.
I did some reading up on how to flash. As it is said, I need to have a copy of my ROM with WM5 in case things go wrong. But I have no idea where to find a copy of my working ROM. But I found some info on making a dums:
http://buzzdev.org/how-to/universal-how-to-d2s-dump-the-rom/
Is this what I am looking for? Does this meanthat if I dump the files on my SD, I'm good?
Looking forward to start flashing! I hope somebody can help me getting started. I guess I first need to clarify the ROM backup. Then I need to make sure I know what NOT to do to avoid bricking my Uni, and last but not least, have a working routing to flash back to my old ROM.
Maybe a few more question for now:
- If I flash to a new ROM, do I need to reïnstall all data, contacts, programs etc?
- Are the Scandinavian letters/alphabet included in all new ROMs?
- Not sure if this is a WM5 limitation, but before I had a 2 Gb SD, and could store my pictures directly on SD, as default location in my camera app. But after upgrading to a 16Gb, this is not working (ironicly "not enough memory"). Looks like the camera app is not supporting 16 Gb. Have been reading about a 4 Gb limitation. Will this be better in newer ROMs?
If you want performance and free RAM try going to WM6.1 (I recommend Tomal 8.2 and 8.5), WM6.5 is not causing problems at least for me but is indeed slower than 6.1
- Yes, you need to reinstall all
- Not all, try checking my sig link and read the thread of the desired ROM
- Again, check my sig link to get working SD cards
HarryTheSatman said:
- If I flash to a new ROM, do I need to reïnstall all data, contacts, programs etc?
- Are the Scandinavian letters/alphabet included in all new ROMs?
- Not sure if this is a WM5 limitation, but before I had a 2 Gb SD, and could store my pictures directly on SD, as default location in my camera app. But after upgrading to a 16Gb, this is not working (ironicly "not enough memory"). Looks like the camera app is not supporting 16 Gb. Have been reading about a 4 Gb limitation. Will this be better in newer ROMs?
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@orb3000
I have been reading the thread from Things 6.1 ROM. Looks like I am going to give that one a try. To start with anyway.
About my data. SPB backup has a backup of PIM data, emails and documents. I assume I can use the exe file to restore that after I upgraded the ROM, yes?
about the SD card. I think you misunderstood ;-). My 16 Gb is working, no prob. It is only the camera app that does not want to store it there. If I change the path to my SD, I get a memory error. But I can install apps on it, store data on it, transfer data from my PC to it etc. So most likely itis the camera app, that is from 2006 or earlier, that is not capable on dealing with 16 Gb cards. Just wanted to check if somebody else has the same problem.
Thanks for the reply. I will do some reading on the howto ROM section. Just need to figure out how to get a restorable copy of my current ROM, just in case.
Until Now, I'm still afraid to flash my Dopod 900
Hi! Guys it's been quite a while since I read and read about how to flash my device but until now, I can't find the courage to do so.
Is there someone who can tell me that it is ok to flash my dopod 900?
It is ok to do it!
I flashed my Uni one week after I got it back in 2005 and since then have flashed so many times that I´ve lost count, as long as you follow the instructions all should be ok.
On my sig link there is a good tut on how to
Don´t be afraid! you´ll see the goodness of having a cooked ROM from our great Chefs i XDA