Ok So Am I the only Asshole That txts and Talks at the same time ? Seems Like Every other ROM I Choose to Upload seem to Not Capitalize on this FIX. Really GREAT, FAST & STABLE Roms Seem to Just Look the Other Way Like this doesn't Bother them or Don't really care. I mean Not sure how many other People Multi-Task on There TyTn but I"m on IE,Writing an Email, WHile Recieving Txt message And on the Phone RELIGIOUSLY ! I can't see how this isn't Bothering Other Users or Basically not a Must in Some of the Great Roms. I've gone To Great Lengths To Annoy The **** out of Rom Cookers lol Constantly Reminding them or At least Post in there threads that This Bug does Occur in the ROM. Updates are released Yet there its Still Not Fixed ??
I mean Am I the only ONE ? I love to Test New Roms when They Come out. I"m on a new ROM every other Week And Usually the only Thing that Keeps me from Testing them More than a Week for Two is the "In Call Fixed Keyboard"
I really Wish this was an Easy Cab Fix But Unfortunately With Numerous Post in Different Threads And talking to Different Cooks it appears to be Something You have to Cook into the ROM(Something to have to do with the Keyboard.dll File)
This Is Just An Inquiry into How many People this Really bothers and/or effects Not to Mention a Desperate Hope to Make this Fix a Standard in Every Rom. I mean Seriouly How many Roms do you See that you Still have to Use the PTT Fix ? Not Many So Why This Problem Still ? ? ?
When I cook My Own From Using "mattk_r" Kithcen I Don't have this Problem ?
So I'd like other members to post about this ? Just Curious about what other people think Or am I Just knit picking ?
& B4 Rom Cookers Get Offended It's not a Stab. You all have done Great work I just feel with all the Great roms out there alot of them seem to Never get this fix Right or Don't Care too....Much Respect.
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Roms With "Keyboard keys NOT locked as numeric while in-call!"
Vp3G's
TnT S.E.
S64 3.63
S64 HTC WWE
K's Rom v1.30b and All Other K Rom's
More to Come....
I just tried this and have the problem also. While I don't normally txt while on the phone I'm sure it will happen at some point.
So yes I would like to see this fix cooked in also..
It is something that cooks often "forget" to fix..and some just don't know how the heck to fix it. Also, if you decide to fix the keyboard issue, you cannot map hot voice to button 5. Somebody will always be complaining. It is one of those things that when you patch a hole, another hole appears. Things just get overlooked sometimes, and it takes a few revisions to get the Rom to a stable stage. Regardless all my Roms have the keyboard fix - you can text with HW k/b and call at the same time.
LoL @ "FORGET" & "Regardless all my Roms have the keyboard fix"
Very True.... I've heard of the double Edge Sword as far as people not being able to Fix them ? how did you ? or you mean Fixing this without th Double Sided Problem of "Hot Voice" ?
And my Other Question ? "Hot Voice" ? Is tha tThe PTT ?
Edit : I'll Test your K's Rom's when I get home and Add your ROM to my List...
CAB Fix?
Does this exist as a CAB which I could apply to any ROM?
...yes, I've search and searched....and no one has a patch. Only certain ROMs have the fix cooked in.
Thanks.
i usually end up back with vp3G's last rom because of this. I've been trying others, but it's just too much of a pain to not have the keyboard while in a call. I usually try a new rom for a while then need to use the keyboard while in a call and end up re-loading vp3G's rom.
Like I said, you either have to pick the keyboard fix, or hotvoice mappable to button 5. Unfortunately there isn't a way to have both working. I thought I nailed it at one point but apparently I didn't, so I decided to stick with the keyboard fix as I do occasionally surf and talk at the same time. If the bug was not reported to the cook, it could be overlooked.
Understood kin0kin
I don't want the hotvoice button. Can I patch a ROM to fix this?
Thanks.
I have the same issue. I am always on the phone and texting and I have to tell the person to call me back so I can finish the txt. I would loooove to se a fix to this.
There is no Patch or Quick cab Fix for this. The Keyboard.dll Needs to be Cooked into the ROM. However if you use one of the Roms I"ve Stated Above or Build ur own you won't have this Issue.
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I just upgraded to WM6 Vanilla on my 8525. I now no longer have access to the internet through the 3G data service.. Also the keyboard is messed up.. I could careless for WM5.. this phone was seriously pissin me off with WM5.. it was so slow and froze up all the time.. etc. Things seem a lot faster with the WM6 Vanilla.. but I'd like to have more features..
I'd appreciate some help.. I read and searched as much as possible but most of these threads have 30+ pages
PS. Wireless doesn't work either.. the Wifi won't turn on.
I really want to keep WM6.. I just want the full features of WM5 along with it..
Perhaps you should do some more reading then. If you look at the thread with a title something like XDA Live issues (its in consolidated sticky), you'll find a fix for your keyboard - I'm assuming you're running an 8525 or whatever you US guys call it?
I don't know why you flashed Vanilla as well, you'd have been better off with XDA Live.
Your internet problem is due to not having the settings for your provider now. You might find the answer in a thread, there might be an ExtROM cab you can run to get the settings, or you might have to find them on the providers website and manually enter them.
I would like to keep PTT.
I just tried XDA... not appealing to me. I like Vanilla.. just not so damn plain.. wish it was full feature.
dont you get it...its not meant to have any extras just plain "vanilla", if you want extras just add them as most stuff wotrks if you install it, ive got vannila with only what i need, tomtom and my provider settings, and works perfect for me
I'm an F'n newb to this stuff.. so no I don't get it .. lol.
I just put vanilla back on...
So now the question is, how do I find out what cingulars 3G (EDGE) information is so I can get that working again.. and also how can I get Wifi working.. currently it will not even enable(turn on) the wifi...
see https://www.cingular.com/support/deviceConfig.do?content=KB71396.html to set up GPRS/UMTS on your device
Thank you very much skyyboy, that did the trick!
Now can someone help me fix the keyboard? When I go to do @ I get a question mark.. I have to use the key that should be ! to get the @
Thanks
Is there any way to allow the phone to have more than one data connection open at once?
Sorry to tell you, neither WM6 Rom supports PTT.
Actually Vanilla can't support it (need to swap some important system files and it can't be done with a cab file) whereas there are a couple of people working on getting it to work with WMXL (WM XDA Live)...
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I would like to keep PTT.
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Seriously, it is rude to start a new thread for our own personal questions which have been asked and answered time and again. I am cloing this thread. read the Wm6 threads for your answers.
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Thank you very much skyyboy, that did the trick!
Now can someone help me fix the keyboard? When I go to do @ I get a question mark.. I have to use the key that should be ! to get the @
Thanks
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Hi, anyone know the difference between the 2 rom in its initial release?
Thanks
They're both working beta versions, both have bugs, maybe not the same ones but still bugs.
Unless you want to bugtest the ROMs, leave it for a week or so for the next versions to come out.
These are not ROMS you want to flash if you're looking for a stable replacement for WM5, therefore if you're asking which is best, the answer is, neither, at the moment.
If you want to know the differences, read through the threads for each one and see what problems people are having with them.
well, there's a lot of differences here and there.
Mun's rom is a higher version of WM6, and includes some stuff (office 2007 compatibility) that LVSW's doesn't. Of course LVSW's has some tools and apps that Mun's doesn't have. Haha.. It's pretty tough to compare them.
I will say this, I found Mun's ROM to be a bit faster in terms of bringing up new programs/windows. I dunno if that has anything to do with his customization or just the version of WM6. However right now a lot of people (including me) are having trouble using activesync with this version. I switched to LVSW and am syncing fine now.
There's some other issues here and there regarding VOIP and stuff that separate them...
hope it helps. As always, for comprehensive info, you need to go read the posts..
Well my opinion is that this thread is pointless, try thrm both and you will find out which one fits your needs, thats all, it is not a hard task
so if active sync works in one and not in the other how about some combined work?
How about waiting until a stable release comes out. I mean wtf, it has been a little over a day and people already want the perfect ROM.
Tweaking a ROM takes a lot of effort. Its not always that easy to locate problems and even if you do, they are not always easy to fix.
Give it a few weeks or wait for an official ROM if you can't deal with a few bugs here and there.
Who is complaining? I think you are misreading peoples intentions here by criticising the ROMs. It is in essence part of the testing process that you give feedback and also desire to solve the issues.
Noone is expecting the perfect ROM, but if you dont want the perfect the ROM then what is the point in developing?
I didn't quote anyone so I refered to the previous post by jpless.
Maybe I misread it but he made it sound like it was as easy as putting feature A from ROM1 into ROM2.
Its possible for some parts but could introduce a lot more new bugs.
I'm sure mun_rus and LVSW are well aware of each others Roms, it just takes time to evolve it to the state WM5 is in today. Especially since we don't have an official WM6 Rom.
Sorry for my harsh tone earlier. In time, we'll have a perfect WM6 Rom.
I take them both.
Mun's ROM so Quickly
LVSW was able to sync
Thanks a lot both MUN/LVSW .
@ZakMcRofl
Thanx for comments. You are absolutly right.
Just wait for next release. I have to test new rom before and should say that:
-AS sync - OK
-GPS camera - ok
-etc
I have no chance t otry videocall, so don't know anything about it
I'm waiting for the second betas to come out, and I think I'll jump on Mr. Mun_Rus's rom because, well, I sent him money, so I might as well use the results of that, right?
In the name of healthy competition, I declare that I find mUn's ROM the better of the two after careful evaluation. So im going to go back to mUn's ROM for now. Faster and less buggy camera-wise. Maybe you are tired of this now, but thanks again to both you and lvsw for your work.
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I didn't quote anyone so I refered to the previous post by jpless.
Maybe I misread it but he made it sound like it was as easy as putting feature A from ROM1 into ROM2.
Its possible for some parts but could introduce a lot more new bugs.
I'm sure mun_rus and LVSW are well aware of each others Roms, it just takes time to evolve it to the state WM5 is in today. Especially since we don't have an official WM6 Rom.
Sorry for my harsh tone earlier. In time, we'll have a perfect WM6 Rom.
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You didn't quote but referred? Anywho I know it's not as easy as it sounds, just thought that maybe by comparing the bugs in either one we could maybe help solve some of them or something Just trying to help here...
Usually its considered bad style to quote the person right before you since it takes up board space and is the default reference point anyways.
The problem with the bugs is that you can't always pinpoint them to a single file or module, otherwise what you say would be possible (replace the file from other ROM).
A Rom error can come from a file, a registry entry or combinations of the former. Obviously having a comparison base can help but its obvious that LVSW and mun_rus already use it plenty - check their WM5 AKU 3.5.x Roms for example.
MUn is Best
In all the roms I've tried, Mun was the very first I tried, and although I don't use it any more, It was the most stable, IE I didn't soft reset it unless an installation wanted me to, it never crashed on me.
dude... the last post on this thread was in 2007...
happy new year
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Well my opinion is that this thread is pointless, try thrm both and you will find out which one fits your needs, thats all, it is not a hard task
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yes it is a pointless thread... play with them to find which is best for you
To me the best version is windows CE,do some research and install it,it'll make your xda rock or maybe brick
During call I can type only numbers with buttons where they are. When call is stopped keyboard goes to normal. This is really annoying when you try to write note when speaking...
lol try searching around for it man
Not seen any resolution to the Number keys stuck while in-call. Doesn't seem to be resolved yet per the last post I saw on it:
"8/04/2007 Originally Posted by schaps: Not yet, this problem also occurs on official WM6 ROMs so it doesn't help me to focus the problem. But for sure this issue is not caused by the keyboard driver."
Yes, I actually asked whether the new 3.60 Schap's Rom fixed the problem, but have not heard an answer one way or the other....
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Yes, I actually asked whether the new 3.60 Schap's Rom fixed the problem, but have not heard an answer one way or the other....
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If it's based on any of the new WM6 ROM's probably not. Although I have heard that some people are not having the issue at all.
the new 3.60 Schap's Rom does not fix this problem... Let's wait then.
this question is going to get as annoying as "I just flashed ??? rom and now my function keys aren't right!"
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Its a known problem.. hopefully it gets fixed!
Hi,
Just tested and the keyword worked just fine.
I'm using the Schaps 3.60a BETA rom.
Regards,
I'm loving NFSFAN's new Bell ROM, but i'm not crazy about the slide to answer on the phone canvas.
I'm looking for a way to replace the slide to answer / ignore with buttons instead of a slider while keeping everything else the same.
I've researched different skins for this dialer (there are some cool looking ones out there!!) but none of these change the slider.
Any help would be appreciated.
This one works for me; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429179. There is also a black version somewhere Google 'Black Minimal Dialer'
I've now been using NFSFAN's ROM for a few days now.
Must say i've gotten quite used to the dialer. I like all of the other features. Especially the "in call curtain". While i'm still not in love with slide to answer I understand the concept of why it was created. If I want to press a button that's what the hardware key is for!!
I wasn't really looking for a new dialer, but i've learnt the slide is an integral part of the package.
Thanks for the response anyways. You were the only one to do so. (everyone else was probably busy shaking their heads!!!)
now mine might sound like a really stupid question, but can I install the opal's slide to answer dialer on my sprint htc vogue ? are all the ## codes working for you on your phone ?
Yes, everything works (911 etc)
In NFSFAN's words, the data connection is not active during a call, it just breaks the data errors.
The dialer is included in his ROM, i'm not really sure if the same one is found anywhere in CAB format. A quick google search for "opal slide to answer CDMA" should yield some results for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466519
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44017
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53599
and many others!!
Happy hunting,
Jason
thanks jmitr for your patient answer and the links to the solutions.. really really appreciate your patience and yes I just installed it and working fine now.. love the new dialer...
i spoke too sooon... i installed the complete cab by mbarvian and then tried juggaloo's cab but it was for VGA graphics, i tried mbarvian and conflippers cab but that messed up everything...
just mbarvians cab - didn't display the incall screen properly.... it was all greyed out...
now i can't find a single good cab which displays everything like it should... i don't want to do any more trial and error and find out... please help me on this ...
i dont mind not having the canvas - atleast i get a bigger picture on caller screen and thats all i want right now...
I know s2u2 has a large picture to answer the phone with.
I don't use it anymore, I found it drained my battery too fast. With NFSFAN's rom and the opal dialer it isn't really needed anyways.
Sorry none of the links led to anything fruitful, my only experience with this dialer is in the custom ROM. Must say it has grown on me though!!
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i spoke too sooon... i installed the complete cab by mbarvian and then tried juggaloo's cab but it was for VGA graphics, i tried mbarvian and conflippers cab but that messed up everything...
just mbarvians cab - didn't display the incall screen properly.... it was all greyed out...
now i can't find a single good cab which displays everything like it should... i don't want to do any more trial and error and find out... please help me on this ...
i dont mind not having the canvas - atleast i get a bigger picture on caller screen and thats all i want right now...
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I've been using this on my Sprint Touch for months now with out any issues. Here's a link for a post I have up at PPCGeeks for you to check out . Please let me know if you have any problems. If you don't want the lock feature, don't install Albert's cab...
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i spoke too sooon... i installed the complete cab by mbarvian and then tried juggaloo's cab but it was for VGA graphics, i tried mbarvian and conflippers cab but that messed up everything...
just mbarvians cab - didn't display the incall screen properly.... it was all greyed out...
now i can't find a single good cab which displays everything like it should... i don't want to do any more trial and error and find out... please help me on this ...
i dont mind not having the canvas - atleast i get a bigger picture on caller screen and thats all i want right now...
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I had trouble getting the dialer to work initially also. It seemed to be tied to the rom build that something changed after the 20XXX rom build was released. If I used anything earlier it wouldn't work. If your on a stock rom that may be part of the issue. Not sure, but just my experience in fixing the issue.
It is tied to a shell component.
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It is tied to a shell component.
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Hey thanks for the reply NFSFAN, the slide to answer was the only part of your ROM that I didn't really like......at first. I couldn't imagine going back to the old dialer now.
It is good to learn what's possible and what's not though, thanks again for the answer.
Cheers,
Jason
jmitr said:
Yes, everything works (911 etc)
In NFSFAN's words, the data connection is not active during a call, it just breaks the data errors.
The dialer is included in his ROM, i'm not really sure if the same one is found anywhere in CAB format. A quick google search for "opal slide to answer CDMA" should yield some results for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466519
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44017
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53599
and many others!!
Happy hunting,
Jason
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Codes don't work for me on the verizon beta rom. Is it just me or do you have to use the folder rather than the dialer?
Hey, I know this is already in a thread, but I wanted to get it out to the masses as there is alot more chance of someone being able to help me this way...and my problem is really buggin me!
Cheers guys!
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Anyone else notice how slow the keyboard is on the new updated kernal rom (6.5.1 a)...also, cant double tap to zoom in opera!! Great great GREAT rom, but annoying problems that make me wanna revert back to 6.5q!! any fixes anyone? anyone kno an ezinput version I can change to to solve this problem? or an opera registry fix to allow double tap to zoom??
Cheers guys....
You change the repeat rate from registry
\HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\RepeatRate default 8->4 (or less)
Had no probl. w. double tap to zoom in Opera. You can check the Opera setup with about:config from your browser
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Hey, thanks for your speedy reply!! if it were not for people like yourself my diamond would be a very dull device indeed!!
Right, I changed the repeat rate and tried from 4 to 3 to 2 right down to 0 and it seems to have no affect on my problem...for example, on my older builds, if i repeatedly pressed '.....' it would input the dots for however many times I pressed the button into my text, even if it did take a few seconds to catch up...now wen I write a text or somethin, i have to wait until the last letter I have pressed is on screen before I can enter a new letter...if I type too quickly, it misses out loads of letters until it feels ready to recieve a new one...before I could just type away and I always knew it would catch up with itself and remember what I had pressed a few milliseconds ago!! now I can repeatedly hit '.......' and only 1 dot will appear on screen! i have to wait a second before I press '.' again! same with backspace....i used to be able to hit backspace repeatedly very quickly and delete a whole load of text, even if it took a second to catch up, now I press it several times and only 1 letter deletes!! I have to wait a few milliseconds to press backspace again before I can delete another letter! very very tedious!! any ideas??! its really buggin me, its ruining the way I text and email. its not just the dots or backspace...every letter is the same, so its basically impossible to type quickly... I've tried another keyboard 2! 'fingerkeyboard' which is really nice and looks great, but it does the same thing!! last build (6.5q) worked fine and the same way as my original 6.1 rom.
Also with opera, I had alook at the config options, but could not see an option to enable double tap to zoom! I dont suppose you know a registry tweak for that aswel do ya??
Looking forward to your reply!
Kind regards
Ben
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Can any1 help??! is no-one else that upgraded to Bsb 6.5.1 A/S finding that texting is slower??! its not just the keyboard tho...I notice even when I'm scrolling in Opera or through my list of programmes, I flick my finger quite fast (Like I used to on the other roms) yet the screen does not keep up like it used to!! It gives me the vibration feedback on every finger stroke, but only scrolls if I move my finger abit slower!! someone who upgraded must have the same problem??! plz help..there must be a registry tweek out there sumwhere to increase the reaction speed of the screen..??
Why the double topic???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562469
i think it was a problem of that build so you wont be able to fix it until i update the rom... but you know... my diamond is at SAT so be patient
Cheers
Sorry about double post!!! tried to change title but accidently just made it as a new post! I'm going to try and delete it now if I can!!
Makeveral- Thanks for your reply!!! As long as I know I'm not the only one experiencing this issue and at least I know that nothing can be done at the moment!! Like I said before, I think your Roms are really great and I love this new version so much that I dont even want to revert back to the un-finger friendly versions, so I think I will just wait for your diamond to get fixed and for a new update to come out!! I think I can handle it until then!! Have they said your diamond can be fixed then??? your not upgrading and abandoning your precious diamond quite yet??!
Anyways, cant wait to see what new tricks you have up your sleave! keep up the good work and thanks again for your reply and putting my mind at ease!!
Cheers
Ben
bmanashe said:
Sorry about double post!!! tried to change title but accidently just made it as a new post! I'm going to try and delete it now if I can!!
Makeveral- Thanks for your reply!!! As long as I know I'm not the only one experiencing this issue and at least I know that nothing can be done at the moment!! Like I said before, I think your Roms are really great and I love this new version so much that I dont even want to revert back to the un-finger friendly versions, so I think I will just wait for your diamond to get fixed and for a new update to come out!! I think I can handle it until then!! Have they said your diamond can be fixed then??? your not upgrading and abandoning your precious diamond quite yet??!
Anyways, cant wait to see what new tricks you have up your sleave! keep up the good work and thanks again for your reply and putting my mind at ease!!
Cheers
Ben
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i dunno they just took it at the shop and said that they would send it to SAT.. ofc if they find out that im using custom roms they wont fix it but my diamond was really DEAD (i hope )
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makeveral said:
i dunno they just took it at the shop and said that they would send it to SAT.. ofc if they find out that im using custom roms they wont fix it but my diamond was really DEAD (i hope )
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Well, for your sake, I hope they cant so u can get the upgrade! I love the feeling of a fresh new gadget to mess around with!! for all of us who rely on and love our diamonds to bits, I hope u get it back so u can carry on making that great rom!
in the meanwhile, can u suggest a version of your rom that doesnt have the screen problem I mentioned, yet still have those nice finger friendly menu's? or maybe another rom by another developer that u can suggest?? I would really appreciate ur advise...u seem like u kno what ur talkin about! lol
Cheers
Ben