just wondering if anyone has experimented much with pagepool sizes on the vogue to see which was the fasted/optimal setting?
thanks.
n00b question
but what is page pool exactly? and how is the setting changed
bugzy said:
n00b question
but what is page pool exactly? and how is the setting changed
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My understanding is that it is basically a way to change the RAM/ROM storage (what you have available for storage vs what you have available for running programs). It is used when creating a custom ROM. I'm not sure if you can change it without creating a ROM, I don't think you can.
as i understand it, its some sort of system.. "cache" (?) which is accessed quite frequently by the system by most everything. increasing this decreases program memory (which means slowing down), so the important thing is finding the right balance...or so they say.
personally, idk if that ^^ is even half true, but thats what ive read and understand it to be.
supposedly, you can use activesync to change it, though i do not understand how to use it...not sure which rom version my wm6 sprint vogue uses.
heres the link, if anyone can figure it out...do explain!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323538
other than that i have just been using the pagepool changer included with blee0125's vogue kitchen and reflashing, trying to see whats the best.
not sure whats the right answer though...
good luck, thanks, and post results!!
As far as I know, the "Page Pool" is a section of storage memory that WinMo uses as if it were RAM. The only difference is, from what I can tell, that Page Pool is directly related to how well WinMo runs, versus your Program RAM, which is essentially for other programs. I think.
On a device like the Vogue, with 128 meg of RAM and a slow as hell WinMo interface, I'd recommend increasing the page pool. Not going to run out of Program Memory anytime soon.
I flashed my Vogue and increased the page pool to 16MB and after using the device for a week I found myself restarting the device often because of qwerks and lag. I am not sure if that is from a tweak I preformed or the page pool.
I reflashed my device and moved it down to 14MB and I plan on using it for a few days and slowing installing what I need on it to see if it is a specific program or the page pool size.
fowen said:
I flashed my Vogue and increased the page pool to 16MB and after using the device for a week I found myself restarting the device often because of qwerks and lag. I am not sure if that is from a tweak I preformed or the page pool.
I reflashed my device and moved it down to 14MB and I plan on using it for a few days and slowing installing what I need on it to see if it is a specific program or the page pool size.
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sounds good, please be sure to post your results.
and yes, wm on a touch is SLLOOWW i cant stand it! right now i actually have my pagepool at 34/36mb (cant remember) and...not noticing too much of a difference!!
dare i try 70mb??? like you said, the touch has a lot of RAM, and i usually dont find myself too low on it.
jim256 said:
sounds good, please be sure to post your results.
and yes, wm on a touch is SLLOOWW i cant stand it! right now i actually have my pagepool at 34/36mb (cant remember) and...not noticing too much of a difference!!
dare i try 70mb??? like you said, the touch has a lot of RAM, and i usually dont find myself too low on it.
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If you up it to 70, the phone itself may not boot at all. It has to have enough RAM available for the OS itself.
I have my pagepool set at 16 and find it to be much snappier than at the default 12. I also have quite a few apps installed and am still noticing a difference.
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If you up it to 70, the phone itself may not boot at all. It has to have enough RAM available for the OS itself.
I have my pagepool set at 16 and find it to be much snappier than at the default 12. I also have quite a few apps installed and am still noticing a difference.
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hmm...what are you using to change the pp? just the tool included in blees kitchen? i really havent noticed much difference in any of them at all. you really can tell the difference all the time; its obviously faster?
thanks.
Yes I used the unlocker first and then used the pagepool changer in his kitchen to change the pagepool on the OEM ROM and then reflashed it with the new ROM(OEM but with 16MB pagepool) effectively re-locking my device and notice a nice speed boost.
It sometimes takes a few mins to get some apps up that I frequently use and that speeds things up considerably but yes it does make a difference especially when browsing files on the device. It loads much faster. Try accessing the Windows folder with a 12MB pagepool using file explorer and time it and then do the same thing with a 16MB pagepool. You will also see a difference.
ok thanks a lot.
do you know out how to use that pagepool changer via activesync?
i saw you posted in that forum but...i didnt understand which rom version mine was.
but thx i will definitely try that.
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ok thanks a lot.
do you know out how to use that pagepool changer via activesync?
i saw you posted in that forum but...i didnt understand which rom version mine was.
but thx i will definitely try that.
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I'm not too familiar with that other method that changes the pagepool via activesync but I'm glad I was able to help you at least a little.
@dharvey4651: What I'm interested in is the page pool's relation to software rendering. For example, when scrolling through a large (or hell, even medium to small) sized web page, the screen jerks and tears and all sorts of nasty things. But when I had my Mogul, it didn't do that. Now, I know the problem is REALLY caused by HTC not releasing proper DirectDraw drivers for the Imageon chipset, but the Mogul had the same chipset, and same lack-of-drivers, but still scrolled better. I'm wondering if this is because of Sprint bloatware. The Touch is loaded with even more of it then the Mogul was. Any ideas?
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@dharvey4651: What I'm interested in is the page pool's relation to software rendering. For example, when scrolling through a large (or hell, even medium to small) sized web page, the screen jerks and tears and all sorts of nasty things. But when I had my Mogul, it didn't do that. Now, I know the problem is REALLY caused by HTC not releasing proper DirectDraw drivers for the Imageon chipset, but the Mogul had the same chipset, and same lack-of-drivers, but still scrolled better. I'm wondering if this is because of Sprint bloatware. The Touch is loaded with even more of it then the Mogul was. Any ideas?
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I've noticed a similar problem in Opera web pages. I always thought it was due to the page loading still, but I suppose I could be wrong. I think I'm using either a 12 or 16mb pp. (No2Chem's 6.1 roms, and before that DCD 0.2.0). If I remember correctly, I never saw this with the stock rom.
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I've noticed a similar problem in Opera web pages. I always thought it was due to the page loading still, but I suppose I could be wrong. I think I'm using either a 12 or 16mb pp. (No2Chem's 6.1 roms, and before that DCD 0.2.0). If I remember correctly, I never saw this with the stock rom.
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i am pretty sure i saw this plenty with the stock rom. the stock pp is 12mb i believe. i was hoping to have gotten rid of that by upping the pp as well. i am currently running no2chems build 107 and ive modified the pagepool to...24 mb i think?
though htc says they do not intend to release the better drivers for the touch, im sure it wont be too longer after they are out that someone is able to rip them from a device that has them, and modify them for the vogue.
gosh i wish it was faster...
So your 24mb pp still stutters on web pages?
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So your 24mb pp still stutters on web pages?
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thats right. with 32mb as well i believe.
we need drivers!
I've had the best luck with 20mb. It seems to slow down with a higher or lower settings. 20mb is a sweet spot with my phone, the way it's setup now.
Dave
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I've had the best luck with 20mb. It seems to slow down with a higher or lower settings. 20mb is a sweet spot with my phone, the way it's setup now.
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thanks a lot for your input, will be trying 20mb on my next flash.
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Hi all
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EDIT: 2/11/2007
I appear to have found a solution to the 'long time to come back out of standby' issue:
i had a bit of a brianwave when I was learning about pagepools and decided to investigate WHY it was only Schaps' rom that took such a noticeable time to come out of standby whereas other roms such as VP3G's and shamanix's were pretty quick.
Initially i put it down to rubbish handset.lol. but then decided no. that isnt the xda way!
so, i downloaded 4 different ROMs, VP3G's, Shamanix, AustinSync and of course Schaps'. I was determined to get Schaps' working as his rom is most suited to my needs!
so, upon opening each of the roms using the pagepool change tool, i realised Schap's had a 4mb PP whereas others had 6mb
so, i thought, lets see what happens if we change the pagepool, so i did. and it seems to have worked. it still takes a short time to come out (i mean not instantaneous like on the wizard) but a LOT less than the Schaps with 4mb PP.
so, i ask ye fellow users to try changing the pagepool.
the tool i found was on these very forums at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269&highlight=pagepool+change
and there it is!
so please, try it!
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I've been trying out schaps' various roms and i've realised it seems to take a while for the handset to come out of standby (i use the standby function a LOT) and sometimes you even have to press the power button twice!
is it just me that is experiencing this?
please dont get me wrong, ALL of schaps' roms that i have tried have been near enough perfect asides from this single issue. all the other roms i have tried despite coming out of standy instantaneously, they have other issues. issues which schaps dont have!
i just hope we can solve this slight issue!
w/thanks
duke.
Same here
I have ROM 3.54c from Schaps and I have the same problem... I find it VERY frustrating!!!
I was hoping that this would be fixed in version 4...
Good thread Duke_stix, I hope someone out there has the answer to our problem!
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3.54c from Schaps
I haven't really noticed it yet really but its something that I have experienced on all the roms I try on occasion.
i use 3.60a
and it has a 1second lag before it comes out of standby. havent tried any other rom
Try VP3G's latest.... you would not be disappointed...Schap codes great ROMs, however when they are done and out of bugs.. but till then if you use your phone daily like most people do, then testing is not for you.
im not testing!
if you read my first post, i LOVE schaps' roms! the ONLY issue that i have found is the 'wakeup' bug, otherwise more or less perfect. with other roms, including VP3G's there are other slight problems like some today plugins missing, namely the wireless one, which i know there are alternatives and it can be downloaded and installed but id prefer it in rom from beginning!
there has GOT to be a way to fix this! perhaps a registry setting
schaps, if your reading this, please help!
U may have better luck posting this on the original schaps v4.0 thread!
Not a rom specific thing...
It's a Hermes specific thing.
The Hermes has always had problems coming out of stand by. Every rom I've used has had these lags. And yeah, some times I have to press the power button twice as well.
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U may have better luck posting this on the original schaps v4.0 thread!
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i would and i have but in the last few hours ive had more responses concerning this issue than i have since posting in that thread a day or two ago!
Help wanted
This is a very important topic...
Because of this issue, my 8525 seems slower than the old 8125... Kind of annoying for a processor twice as fast...
Please... Anyone... Any clue????
This lag varies depending on what you have installed and whats running. When i boot my device in safe mode using spb pocket + the lag is basicly gone. So just free up some ram and put only the apps that need to be on device memory on the device memory, other non crucial apps should be put on starage device.
Not a memory issue
fone_fanatic said:
This lag varies depending on what you have installed and whats running. When i boot my device in safe mode using spb pocket + the lag is basicly gone. So just free up some ram and put only the apps that need to be on device memory on the device memory, other non crucial apps should be put on starage device.
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I highly doubt that it is a memory issue since this happens on cold boots as well.
Moreover my Hermes currently has 22.8Mb free for storage and 19.7Mb for Program... Isn't this plenty?
ATI ImageON
Actually, isn't it what the ATI ImageON driver is supposed to fix?
Relating to all of this,, I wonder if the new Tytn 11 (Kaiser)with all its memory , experiences that same power/standby problem ? If the answer is yes, then either the problem (whatever it was) was solved, and we must learn what they have done differently in hardware or system. If they haven't fixed or improved immensely in the Kaiser, then someone out there (HTC) never have seen it as a major problem.. I personally have almost always had a lag, either on cooked or official.
on Hermes but not on Wizard
Actually, this problem is inherent to the Hermes - The wizard (slower processor and older model) is much faster to come out of stand-by. Someone at HTC must have messed up pretty bad - or ATI bribbed them nicely.
Hi,
I'm using the 3.60 full at the moment and didn't experience that, even I do use that version for a week and never recall have that issue as well, may be is physical unit related since some of you also discover the same symptoms.
Just sharing hope you don't mine.
Cheers,
Naru
TOPSIDE!solution has been found
its true
GldRush98 said:
Not a rom specific thing...
It's a Hermes specific thing.
The Hermes has always had problems coming out of stand by. Every rom I've used has had these lags. And yeah, some times I have to press the power button twice as well.
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Yes thats is true its not a rom specific thing. I use the dopod original rom and still it takes that long and some times i do need to press it twice before getting it awake...
Minimo guilty?
I tried the 6Mb pagepool trick on Schap's 4 ROM and the delay seemed to have shortened. However, after installing and uninstalling Minimo, I noticed a significant slow down of mt TyTn... It seems that the delay is back...
Am I the only one in this case?
Hey all -
Great forum, and happy to be a member, here's my story, perhaps you can help.
I have just received a TYTN few weeks ago, and I am trying to make the best of it.
So far - I am frustrated, very frustrated!
Why? since I was a Palm OS user, which was so simple and fast, its nothing to compared to windows mobile.
I have tried over the past month several ROMs, per this forum's advice -
1) Black Satin Medium and Light
2) Schap's
3) Faria
4) Shadow 2.1
5) K's
and maybe a few more...the problem is that for each and every one of them I tackled, slowness and major memory problems - ones which forced mt to a soft reset to continue my work.
So what I am looking for - a ROM that will fit my machine's HW, not something too special or packed with apps, something simple that will have the basics, but will be fast and full of memory for programs, over 40 MB after cold boot.
any idea - which one for me?
BTW - up until now, Black Satin Medium was the best option.
I've got a couple of options for you.
#1, SuperDLite by Edhaas is very stable, good with program memory and has lots of storage memory. Has most of the things most people need, and very little fat.
#2, A newer ROM that I have been trying out lately is Shamanix's Ultimate V2 Final. It has a newer base than SuperDLite, and seems to be a very well-polished ROM. However, I have only tried it for about a week and can't speak of how it may fare in the long run.
Give those two a shot. I've a feeling one of them will be to you liking.
Thanks
I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...
i use Pandora Naked 9b1 w/Big Storage - WM6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365604
Memory Details:
Storage: 79 w/MMS, 82 w/o MMS
Program: 30
its fast and clean but u have to install progs when u need more dont forget to install .NET CF 3.5 if u wanna add extra progs
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I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...
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Think of big storage as having an 25 gallon gas tank on your car. Sure, you only drive your car to work and back everyday, so you don't need a very big tank. But who knows? You might want to travel cross country someday.
Anyway, just like there aren't many cars without big gas tanks these days, there aren't many ROMs without big (or super) storage these days.
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I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...
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With a Lite ROM you may just get a little over 30MB RAM after a cold boot. You will never see anything like 40MB and 50MB is purely in your fantasy.
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Hi All,
Thank you for the responsiveness, I will give those 3 ROMs a shot.
I simply cannot face the fact that from time to time I run iGo and get a message: "iGo needs at least 6MB to run"...
then I look at the memory usage and see that I have about 4 MB left - I am wondering how come? nothing is running, but there's is probably a Mem leak somewhere which I cannot for see.
I tried also to use Close Apps and Hibernate to free RAM, and I will use MemTools as well.
For now, it seems to be a "complicated and slow" OS for this machine, perhaps WM 5 (what originally came with it) is more appropriate for HTC TYTN (Hermes 200) hardware.
Wanna bet $$??????
ofird said:
Hi All,
Thank you for the responsiveness, I will give those 3 ROMs a shot.
I simply cannot face the fact that from time to time I run iGo and get a message: "iGo needs at least 6MB to run"...
then I look at the memory usage and see that I have about 4 MB left - I am wondering how come? nothing is running, but there's is probably a Mem leak somewhere which I cannot for see.
I tried also to use Close Apps and Hibernate to free RAM, and I will use MemTools as well.
For now, it seems to be a "complicated and slow" OS for this machine, perhaps WM 5 (what originally came with it) is more appropriate for HTC TYTN (Hermes 200) hardware.
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Oh yeah baby, I'd bet that's a mem leak. Hibernate will help, but you had best hunt that sucker down. Check your Today plugins first.
And I think what ultramag was trying to say is that WM6 runs very smoothly on Hermes hardware. I have flashed many WM6 ROMs and there have been some real stinkers - but none were slower than the stock WM5 that was on my device.
Of course, you aren't the first person I have heard of complain that WM6 is slower than his WM5 stock ROM. You are the second. If a fresh install of your WM5 is running smoother and faster than the ROMs I recommended above then I want to know where I can get that ROM.
I think you'll find IGO is the problem. I had it on wm5 and wm6. Its a memory hog. keep clearing all the destination and trip lists and you shouldn't have a problem. This is why I moved to Tomtom 6. Its so much more stable and I've NEVER had a memory problem again. Hope this helps....
Looking at SuperDLite I see a few versions, which one would you reocmmned for speed:
DopodLite1.0HermesWM6.zip
DopodLiteV1.1-6mbPP-WM6.zip
DopodLiteV1.1WM6.zip
DPLHermesWM6V1.2a4mbPP.zip
DPLHermesWm6V1.2a6mbPP.zip
SuperD-LiteWM6Hermes4mbPP.rar
SuperD-LiteWM6Hermes6mbPP.rar
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Re: speed
They're all quick. Theoretically the 1.2 and Super-D versions may be slightly faster because the windows directories have been minimized. Some people feel the 4mb page pool roms are slightly quicker than 6mb, but I prefer the 6mb (just "feels" better to me). Check the thread for more details.
Have fun!
I used the 1.2 version, its pretty quick, I am missing the "profiles" of V6.1 and the "today" screen features - is there a plgin to add them in?
In addiotn, touchFlo SL does not work on this ROM - any idea why?
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Not sure what the profiles thing is, or what today screen features you're talking about exactly...
If you post a link to Touchflo SL I'll check it out.
I was going to suggest you post these questions on the Super-D thread, but then I see you're the OP and it's your thread to do what you want with!
Best wishes,
Thanks Ed, I will follow you request, so far the ROM is fast and snappy. I have a feeling that WM 6 are doing better on my TYTN then WM 6.1.
Just to clarify - By "profiles" I mean the feature in the today screen which give you the option to "vibrate" the phone ringer by schedule, i.e - if I have a meeting then the phone will automatically switch to vibrate.
Touch FLO (not SL) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143
Hello, I was usgin joshoss V8B2 manilla2d and with some apps installed (via device update) I was left with like 10 megs free, so I tried the PDACornerPro.V27 - Build 20759 NonRBSN Josh-Abs (both greeeeeeeeat ROMS!!!!) and installed basically the same apps with the addition of HTC Home to have a nice look and feel (closer to manilla)... and ended up with around 12 megs free.... so I'm not sure which one is eating more resources.... any idea? manilla is still more unstable, right?
diego
Personally I do not feel that manila is for the hermes, until I get my touch3g I am going to run HTC home and spb mobile shell.
I am also quite interested in the study...
Currently using HTC HOme and happy with it, but if Manilla doesn't consume much more resources (In terms of RAM: for the storage we can all use a Micro SD anyway...), I would immediately switch !!!
Anybody can comment more?
I played around with the earlier versions of M2D but found it very unstable. I have yet to try the new roms with it cooked in but am going to soon.
I find HTC home a little bare for my needs with M2D doing what I want and not such a bare screen. I like the fullscreen use and nicer look. I believe it does use more Ram but not a major amount. My issue was always the stability. Hopefully the newer versions prove to be somewhat more stable then their earlier incarnations...
Cheers...
I am a streamline fanatic and like to keep my resources in check. Personally, on the Hermes I think Manila eats up to many resources.
Maybe in the earlier versions there might have been some memory leaks, but I noticed that in the end, I would end up with under 20megs of ram. And if you play with Manila that would go down. HTC Home uses about 4 megs.
Also when I had Manila on, I found that Opera would crash more often, mostly due to running out of memory while it would never do such thing while running HTC Home.
Also I noticed some sluggishness on the Hermes while using Manila, which also sometimes took a little longer --5-10 seconds-- to load, depending on the ROM.
So all in all, once HTC Home is loaded, it is always almost instantaneous, while Manila would again slowdown the phone in mid-operation. And by that I mean switching from the Today Screen to let's say settings or programs.
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I played around with the earlier versions of M2D but found it very unstable. I have yet to try the new roms with it cooked in but am going to soon.
I find HTC home a little bare for my needs with M2D doing what I want and not such a bare screen. I like the fullscreen use and nicer look. I believe it does use more Ram but not a major amount. My issue was always the stability. Hopefully the newer versions prove to be somewhat more stable then their earlier incarnations...
Cheers...
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I believe Josh's version is stable (from what I read)
Hi guys,
I tried like 4-5 Manilla 2D builds. They all had some bugs which weren't such a pain in the ass, but they were annoying. I was using PDA Corner V25 - great rom. Several days ago I installed PDAViet's Manilla2D v20 ROM and I must admit it is great. I didn't have any problems with manilla in terms of performance. The RAM left is 21MB on boot. The overall performance of the ROM is great. All apps work as fast as on the abusalza's rom. However I haven't tested the YouTube app, since I don't use it. The only problem is the lower in call volume compared to abusalza's rom. And if you use video call, I'm not sure if it's included.
I used multiple ROMs with Manilla 2D .. im now flashing backa again to a ROM without Manilla because i had too many problems with it.. i'm used to listen a lot of music... but with manilla on my Hermie the battery is empty so fast that sometimes i don't even have the chance to lsiten to the music ( i recharge it every night.. and i usually listen to music at about 15:00 pm.. by then it's already on low battery =s
on the other hand there are some stupid buggs in it.. like youtube doesnt work... sometimes the usb-connection doesnt work.. or what also bothers me is the volume control that is removed from audiomanager... there are also some other small problems which bother me but i'm not going to spend any more time on it right now
sorry for my bad english =)
ps. if somebody finds a tool for me to change the music player in manilla ( like from audiomanager to windows mediaplayer) pm me pls..
yes, in my case, I was using Josh's version and it was very stable and had I think all functionality working...the problem was after installing some apps, and after runining for a while opening and closing things I get an error of out of memory...
is there a way to make all "Device Update" to install on storage card?
will some more space on main memory help the RAM issue?
I've tried it out a bit. I'm using update 19 from here, and the Manilla 2D Customiser. On CRC's 13.0 naked non-big storage rom, I used UC to put on all the cab files in the right order, except for the Opera and Youtube apps. Using the customiser, I have removed the internet, mapping and settings tabs, and it runs pretty smoothly. Usually between 18-20MB RAM free. This does tend to go down a bit with usage, but I tend to soft-reset daily, and its not really a problem.
been using pdaviet's V20 and it is really stable and fast. youtube does work and the few times i used it, manilla2d kept running in the background without affecting overall performance which doesn't happen when i run opera and big boss dumps manilla2d to get more ram. it's still one of the best roms i've come across so far and hoping to stick to it - even having to put up with an annoying bug on calendar app.
i might be wrong about this but i found the whole thing a lot faster when i decided to be honest with myself and disable some tabs from manilla2d, tabs that would make it look good and get friends wowing but not really worth keeping just for the sake of showing off. i've disabled weather, music and pictures. pictures cause if anyone starts fiddling with my phone and see my pics THAT would be something to be embarrassed about, for music i have my zune and for the weather, i can just look outside the window.
SlakerBoi said:
been using pdaviet's V20 and it is really stable and fast. youtube does work and the few times i used it, manilla2d kept running in the background without affecting overall performance which doesn't happen when i run opera and big boss dumps manilla2d to get more ram. it's still one of the best roms i've come across so far and hoping to stick to it - even having to put up with an annoying bug on calendar app.
i might be wrong about this but i found the whole thing a lot faster when i decided to be honest with myself and disable some tabs from manilla2d, tabs that would make it look good and get friends wowing but not really worth keeping just for the sake of showing off. i've disabled weather, music and pictures. pictures cause if anyone starts fiddling with my phone and see my pics THAT would be something to be embarrassed about, for music i have my zune and for the weather, i can just look outside the window.
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I had the exact same deal running when I used M2D lol. But I've since ditched the whole 2D thing. I'm running PDACorner V27 and man it is faaast AND stable. M2D would crash way too often for my taste. In reality it was designed for the Kaiser/Tilt. Which is why not too many people on those forums have as many issues with it as we do. I remember I had the full 2D setup and I was running Opera and my Program mem usage was on 98% (about 2-3 MBs free). That's why I've decided to wait for the Fuze if I really want Manila.
When I try to update library from storage card it will start to adding files then stop. Any suggestions. It worked fine with another rom I was using.
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I had the exact same deal running when I used M2D lol. But I've since ditched the whole 2D thing. I'm running PDACorner V27 and man it is faaast AND stable. M2D would crash way too often for my taste. In reality it was designed for the Kaiser/Tilt. Which is why not too many people on those forums have as many issues with it as we do. I remember I had the full 2D setup and I was running Opera and my Program mem usage was on 98% (about 2-3 MBs free). That's why I've decided to wait for the Fuze if I really want Manila.
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i really have the same problem asa u, and now i do not deside to flash any ROM that had installed the M2D, & I like Spb Shell most, cause it is nice and stable
Hi,
I've had my Touch Diamond for over a year now, and there's one thing that really bothers me. It just doesn't have the fluent pleasant experience of an iPhone. There's no window animations, scrolling through file explorer, or using internet explorer is all choppy. The reason that ive been using xdandroid is because of the fluency, and graphic appeal. Is there a way to improve fluency, like tweak the rom? I don't care if it uses 95% ram, I just want a nice experience. Because all the 6.5 sense 2.5 roms floating around here just stink in this aspect, believe me, I've tried them all
Thanks
You want it to be more fluent while giving up RAM, then flash your choice of ROM with the highest pagepool it allows you to flash it with.
Do you have any idea what the highest would be for a normal working rom? An estimation? Ive got 20 now, but ive got a feeling it can be higher Btw, sorry for spamming
Depends on each ROM. If it worked on 20 then go up to 22. Go up in two's until the ROM doesn't load up. Then you know the last PP you used is the highest it will go to.
BTW- when the ROM doesn't load up the only way you are going to flash again is using MTTY and bootloader.
I went thorugh the phase of using high Pagepool but for everyday use there just was not enough memory. Using max 12 now. But i've disbaled plenty of tabs i dont use in Manilla which drastically improves available memory. I've only got the home/messages/mail/weather/settings tabs and usually get about 35-40MB free.
supersanj said:
BTW- when the ROM doesn't load up the only way you are going to flash again is using MTTY and bootloader.
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Or flash from internal storage .
nickschot said:
Or flash from internal storage .
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Except if the ROM does not flash properly and doesn't even get the the point of allowing you to copy the ROM file to internal storage. Then you have to use bootloader and RUU.
a pagepool of 32 seems fine, but still not as smooth as the iphone though
demaxmeister said:
a pagepool of 32 seems fine, but still not as smooth as the iphone though
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it will never be as smooth as the iphone because the diamond screen is resistive not capacitive.
Well, i beg to differ, the xdandroid build seems smooth as hell sometimes But it's not stable enough for me though I guess ill wait for either a extremely stable android build, a windows phone 7 build (unlikely) or a heavily tweaked windows mobile 6 build xD I think ill go with the android.... Anyway thanks for your help supersanj
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Well, i beg to differ, the xdandroid build seems smooth as hell sometimes But it's not stable enough for me though I guess ill wait for either a extremely stable android build, a windows phone 7 build (unlikely) or a heavily tweaked windows mobile 6 build xD I think ill go with the android.... Anyway thanks for your help supersanj
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xdandroid or glossy bulid + overclock + tweaks = speed!
I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
You'll find LOTS of tweaks here. Start searching and reading...
For me the most noticable speed improvements came from:
Turn off ClearType.
Disable PushInternet.
Don't use sense (I use SPB mobile Shell).
There are many others that will have more subtle effects. Like I said, start reading...
turn off sense, use titanium, or some other light weight replacement
i used iPhoneToday and use it to replace Sense, it freed up 20mb program memory on my TP2 and everything is just a lot smoother.
Non of the custom roms are fast enough for me with Sense on.
JackSomfin said:
I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
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Jack, go ahead and run the two cabs I have attached here, they'll do a lot to improve the memory management on your TP2. That will help the phone free up resources when an app or program is done with them. The first one is one of the 3 things that IMissPalmOS mentioned above ("no push internet").
JackSomfin said:
I just got a brand new HTC Touch Pro 2 less than a week ago and I find it rather slow at times.
How can I increase the overall-speed of my phone?
Thank you.
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Welcome to forums
if you don´t mind to loose Sense and you want to really increase speed and performance go and flash a WM6.1 cooked ROM
That way your Rhodium will fly!!
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Jack, go ahead and run the two cabs I have attached here, they'll do a lot to improve the memory management on your TP2. That will help the phone free up resources when an app or program is done with them. The first one is one of the 3 things that IMissPalmOS mentioned above ("no push internet").
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Thanks for those. I remember seeing those cabs before but wasn't sure what they did. I'm still not really sure what they do but tried them anyway and they did free up some ram.
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Thanks for those. I remember seeing those cabs before but wasn't sure what they did. I'm still not really sure what they do but tried them anyway and they did free up some ram.
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The "no push internet" cab turns off the real-time cacheing of web data, and the "dynamic resource proxy" makes a simple registry change that lets the phone free up memory better when apps and processes are done using it.
HTC released a signed rom with sense 2.5 that is the fastest overall rom I have ever used. It just flies man. I use the European version but my buddy told me they released an American version recently. Either one will work just the same. This rom can be found in the rom developement section or on HTC's site. You wont be dissapointed. The only thing I added was duttys task manager because they didnt include it with the rom. Im talking about the task manager in the upper right hand corner. Here is the cab for that if you decide to flash that rom. I highly reccomend it cause of the speed and stability. Its the best. PM me if you have any questions.
thanks
hey guys thanks for the advise i was having the same issues with enery rom its so full of stuff that it bogs down now and then these tweeks helped alot
hey i tried installing these cabs but it didn't really speed up my phone? did i do something wrong?
how do i turn off cleartype?
Rom Version 1.20.531.4 WM6.1
Thank you to everyone!
I download the two cab files and they helped speed up my T-Mobile TP2.
I was wondering? I have rom version 1.20.534.4 and would like to keep WM6.1. Am I able to upgrade my rom while keeping WM6.1 and is it worth while?
Thank you in advance for any useful information!
Giovanni
how do i turn off cleartype?
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Goto the Settings Tab
/Personalize
/Font
/ClearType
unhook it...
Done...
Need help with slow downloading speed!
I have a t-mobile touch pro 2 running Windows 6.5 and already tweaked it with regedit and did the overclock cab and doing fine at 768. Yes the phone is much faster responding but downloading is still too slow. Did a hard reset days before the tweaks and was downloading fast then just slowed down again so I tried the tweaks to help but no success, can anyone help
gotta say I was about to give up on my Tp2 after years of loyal service, just felt so pokey next to my wifes HTC Incredible.
Then I decided what the hell, since I was gonna bail on it anyway I tried (for the first time) HardSPL and a custom rom, in this case MightyROM.
Anyway, its faster, a *lot* faster than any stock VZW rom I ever had (and due to my faithfulness to the TP2 platform Ive tried em all over the years) and it seems very optimized for speed. The only caveat is that it uses the WM6.5 start menu instead of the usual HTC one but that was no big deal for me, and Im sure helps reduce overhead. The phone boots up with 45%-50% memory used, compared to the usual 65% on the VZW roms.
So looks like I'll keep this a while longer, thanks MightyMike! Wish Id tried flashing a long time ago!
PS: I tried WinMoSpeed before flashing and noticed little diff, even @768.
MightyRom is definitely noticeably faster in comparison.
The TP2 is old...It's life is over...get a new phone and move on...
I still have one and my screen is cracked but, there is nothing in Windows Mobile that Verizon has that is any good right now, so Asurion cant help right now