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ActiveSync via wifi is awsome, but one question remains

I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle. So far I haven't had the troubles that I have had when I used the cable and cradle. No more inactive activesync, can't synchronize errors, and having to restart activesync every few hours or so.
I managed to have activesync running for 2 days straight without any problems and restart of any sorts. This leads me to beleive that using wifi with activesync is more stable than using a usb/cradle.
My question is, can I completely abandon the USB/cradle when upgrading ROM, app installs, or anything that has to do with using the cradle and usb cables?

I don't know the answer for certain but I should think so.
What I need to know is how to sync using wifi without it trying to access GPRS instead.
Any ideas?

My 2s is configured to access wifi first (I think the setting is under the wifi config). If wifi isn't available, then it tried to access GPRS. My carrier charges an arm and a leg to use gprs, so I never configure the phone to access my carrier's GPRS. I rely on free public WIFI access and my home WIFI access to do all my internet jobs.

You'll still need the USB for ROM updates; everything else you can do over WiFi or BT.

wifi
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.

@3waygeek, Thanks as I have not tried update anything since I pay a service to upgrade my things on my PPC. Sprite also does not like to backup via WiFi. I had to connect the PPC to the cradle.
@hoobas, I have WinXp/Sp2 installed. I have not had any problems connecting other than the occasional ActiveSync annoyance when I'm connecting with the USB cable. I'm sorry that I can't help you. I have not experience your problems so I can not give you a diagnosis.

wifi and MS Activsync
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem

ActiveSync starts automiatically on USB, serial, and Bluetooth connections. You'll have to use the ActiveSync link located on your PPC to connect to the PC via WiFi. This is assuming that ActiveSync does work on both your PPC and desktop. So it's best to connect to ActiveSync at least once via cradle before going ActiveSync via WiFi.
Only install ActiveSync on either your lappy or your deskop, but not on both. One limitation with ActiveSync is that you can not use more than two partnerships without some fiddling around with your PPC and your networked PC.

About Cradle ActiveSync.
Uninstall ActiveSync -> Reboot PC -> Reinstall Active Sync 3.8 and don't touch any thing or open any programs while installation is in progress.
Mine is working like a charm

nomadman said:
I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle.
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How did you do it?
I've used the search function but I couldn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Dino

OK, got it to work, too. Very nice
But I had to set my Network Connection from "Internet" to "Work".
Is it possible to use both settings? My Wireless LAN connects also
to the internet, so I won't switch everytime I want to sync or surf.
Dino

Re: wifi
hoobas said:
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
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Hi hoobas, how do you configure your laptap wifi for peer-to-peer? (this is quite off topic ) been trying to do this for sometime. thanks

Here is a great site site that might help some of you guys out.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/installation.htm#Installation:

hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...

hoobas said:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
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Thanks a lot how about the settings on the computer side?

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
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In the network settings of yr phone, enter the ip address of machine you want to sync with as WINS server. That will tell yr phone which machine it has to connect to. You can set up peak and offpeak timings in the mobile schedule of activsync on ye PDA, so that it can sync every 10 or 15 mins .

Sorry if my question is too noobish. I have read so many articles talking about establishing wifi sync between a wifi enabled PPC and a wifi enabled PC, but havent been able to do yet. Do i have to have another software to enable the connection ?
Can any one please explain slowly and in detail how you could do that, i've been searching for quite a long time but still no result. And 1 more question is that after i can sync through wifi between my O22s and my laptop, does it affect the wifi connection of my laptop and my O22s? A bit silly right but i'm a new user and i'm not in IT field also. Thanks for any suggestion from you guys.

@azeemakhtar,
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/multiplepartnerships.htm
@ducga,
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
* The above procedure should be able to get activesync working via wifi as long as there isn't a setting problem in your router managment or firewall.
* The above precedure should work if your are able to connect to the interent on your PPC via wifi.

nomadman said:
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
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I also have to do the following:
3a. Click Start / settings / connections / Network cards
3b. Select Network Adapters
3c. Change 'My network card connects to' from 'The Internet' change to 'Work'
3d. Close, reset (for luck)
3e. Open ActiveSync on your desktop PC, select File / connection settings / and tick allow Network Ethernet !!
4. Now when you click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button - it won't try to use GPRS to connect and WiFi will be listed as your Work connection.
I always have to change my network card settings back to 'The Internet' before I can browse again.
Rich

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
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Go to ActiveSync on your XDA, click tools, options.
It will say "When syncing remotely with a PC Use this PC:"
It should list the network name of the PC you currently have a partnership with. i.e. "TOMSLAPTOP"
Rich

WM6/VISTA - Possible to use 3G when Syncing??

OK,
Im in desperate need of a way to be able to Sync my PDA in vista, so its using activesync, but also be able to use the 3G connection on the PDA as well...
I know that the latest Activesync 4.5 allowed this, but is it possible in Vista?
So, Hermes is connected, synced in WMDC. But if i click on internet on the PDA it uses the PC's internet connection. What i need it to do is use its own 3G connection instead. The reason for this is if my laptop is not connected to any network i still need to be able to use apps on the PDA that connect to the net using 3G *BUT* has to be synced to run pocketcontroller software...
Hopefully someone can help soon'ish as i have a presentation i need this ability for soon!

mxlaser said:
OK,
Im in desperate need of a way to be able to Sync my PDA in vista, so its using activesync, but also be able to use the 3G connection on the PDA as well...
I know that the latest Activesync 4.5 allowed this, but is it possible in Vista?
So, Hermes is connected, synced in WMDC. But if i click on internet on the PDA it uses the PC's internet connection. What i need it to do is use its own 3G connection instead. The reason for this is if my laptop is not connected to any network i still need to be able to use apps on the PDA that connect to the net using 3G *BUT* has to be synced to run pocketcontroller software...
Hopefully someone can help soon'ish as i have a presentation i need this ability for soon!
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In your connections tab under Settings > Connections > 'Connections' > Advanced > 'Select Networks'
make sure both Drop down boxes have your Default GPRS connection selected...

walshieau said:
In your connections tab under Settings > Connections > 'Connections' > Advanced > 'Select Networks'
make sure both Drop down boxes have your Default GPRS connection selected...
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Hey walshieau,
Thats already selected. As i said, it use to work in XP / AS4.5 but it's not doing it in Vista?? Is there anything else, maybe in vista that needs changing??
Thanks for answering quickly! Got a preso in Braeside to a board of directors and desperate to have this working before 12:00!!!!

mxlaser said:
Hey walshieau,
Thats already selected. As i said, it use to work in XP / AS4.5 but it's not doing it in Vista?? Is there anything else, maybe in vista that needs changing??
Thanks for answering quickly! Got a preso in Braeside to a board of directors and desperate to have this working before 12:00!!!!
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actually... now i remember...
you dont have the option in Vista to allow WM6 to Retain the GPRS connection when connecting to Windows Mobile Device Center...
let me have another quick look...

Thanks mate, any help is appreciated!

wifi 2 laptop?

Hi I have m700 with a wifi connection and an olde laptop with no wifi, I have upgraded it with vista (My laptop) and can connect the pda via WMDC, and also have modem link in schap's wm6 rom. is there software or a possible way to use my m700's wifi connection through usb on laptop, then use the laptops internet like wifi card/adaptor? any help appreciated. v

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6999.html

Rudegar said:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6999.html
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I have tried this already, this just routes ad-hoc (computer to Computer) wifi connection, the wifi I connect to is infrastructure. I need to use the wifi in my pda and somehow to use it through the usb port into my vista laptop, like as a wireless receiver or using the pdas wifi whilst its connected. thanks for that route, but been there, unless i'm missing something. please let me know if so. thanks

I see what your trying to do but im not sure you can do that,
I havnt tested it but i would try this:
you could give your PC a static IP and find the PDA's IP when its connected to your laptop via USB, then enter
Attach your PDA to a WiFi network and find its IP, then connect your laptop to the PDA via USB, then give your laptop a static IP in the same subnet as the PDA and give one of the DNS servers as the PDA's IP and the other as the DNS server thAt the PDA has picked up from the WiFi network.
Make sure IE is set to 'automaticlly detect proxy setting'. In my head this should work but i have found what i think and what can actuly happen is VERY different.
Let me know how it gets on or at least post the outcome.
Thank you

jab1a said:
I see what your trying to do but im not sure you can do that,
I havnt tested it but i would try this:
you could give your PC a static IP and find the PDA's IP when its connected to your laptop via USB, then enter
Attach your PDA to a WiFi network and find its IP, then connect your laptop to the PDA via USB, then give your laptop a static IP in the same subnet as the PDA and give one of the DNS servers as the PDA's IP and the other as the DNS server thAt the PDA has picked up from the WiFi network.
Make sure IE is set to 'automaticlly detect proxy setting'. In my head this should work but i have found what i think and what can actuly happen is VERY different.
Let me know how it gets on or at least post the outcome.
Thank you
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WOW! you know ur stuff, but i wouldn't know the first thing about the info you gave me. do a dummies guide and i'll try it. cheers for the info tho.

Hmm, dunno if that would work - no harm in trying though..
If you connect via usb then it will setup from the activsync and the dhcp within it, normally along the lines of 169.254.2.2 - but you would have to use this subnet to switch the laptop too (don't use 1 as that will most probs be the dhcp svr) in order to communicate with the device and this is where I see the problem.
You would only be connecting to the device, u can not use the wireless subnet as you have no connection to this just the pda, so if you set your laptop to the subnet of the wifi by rights the network should just look at you blankly as it will not be able to see past the activsync connection to get to the wifi subnet.
Or at least that's how I'd see it happening.

I think i'll just buy a wireless receiver. lol. haven't got a clue what you are both telling me. thanks anyway. maybe somebody can create a cab with settings if poss, or a program?

would there not be a hack or reg change, which in the wifi-router download at start of thread, which will add or change the ad-hoc connection to infrastructure instead? or would this be impossible? thanks

btw: you a running vista on a laptop which is so old that it doesn't have wifi???
i think you should go for a wifistick (~ 10-15 €?!?)

Sharing internet over wifi through Activesync?

Hi,
I've got a PC, a laptop with wifi and my Artemis.
Now, I connect to the internet on my PC through cable, and I use Activesync (through USB) to do internet-stuffs on my phone.
But now I'd like to share the internet on the phone through wifi with my laptop?
Is this possible?
I've seen the hack to change the internet sharing "PC connection" from bluetooth to wifi (regedithack Privateinterface), but the "network connection" only shows my GPRS-connection, not Activesync.
How can I change that?
I *assume* I need to change the registry-key for PublicInterface?
But into what do I need to change it?
Or do I need some kind of proxy-software or something?

Nobody has an idea?

help
hey man i'd like to know that too, if you figured it out some way please tell me how to do it, thank you.

i would also like to know.

Me too, but i think its imposible w/o additional software on ppc.

I'd be really glad to hear there's a solution to this too, as I need to use Activesync simultaneously with allowing internet access to my laptop (would save me a few bob on mobile BB when I'm out in the car).
n4p1 said:
Me too, but i think its imposible w/o additional software on ppc.
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However its done, count me in. Any idea if/where this software can be found.
Regards all,
Simon.

PC Internet Pass Through

Sorry, I really have searched everything I can think of. I have looked all over, I am just trying to find out what the regedit is to use the internet connection on my computer via usb on my t-mobile dash. I am running WM6.1 and have no signal over here for my phone. internet on the computer yes, but dash no. Does anyone know or know where I can look for it? I promise I have searched.

wm1 said:
Sorry, I really have searched everything I can think of. I have looked all over, I am just trying to find out what the regedit is to use the internet connection on my computer via usb on my t-mobile dash. I am running WM6.1 and have no signal over here for my phone. internet on the computer yes, but dash no. Does anyone know or know where I can look for it? I promise I have searched.
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hook a wifi router up =)
other than that maybe put a bluetooth receiver on the pc and connect the phone to it?

I'm useing kavanas 6.1 rom i tweaked it a little but point being when i plug my dash into my comp and it syncs with active sync my phone accesses my computers internet connection which i think its designed to do. how do your internet and active sync settings look like?
under your USB to PC settings under connections do you have the Enable advanced network functionality checked?

Use ActiveSync to "pass through" this computer. That means the connected device can use the computer's network connection as if it were its own. You can use this feature to perform tasks such as downloading non-Outlook e-mail messages, to connect directly with Microsoft Exchange, or to browse the Internet.
Important Note For additional security, disable network bridging on the PC (specifically, bridging to a Remote NDIS adapter) before connecting to the PC to pass though to the Internet or a network. For more information on network bridging, see Windows Help on the PC.
Click Connection Settings.
Select Open ActiveSync when my device connects.
In the This computer is connected to list, select a connection to which this computer should connected when passing through ActiveSync.
thats from activesyncs help.
i guess i never realized it did that...yet i do it everyday...when its plugged in, edge doesnt even try to connect, it defaults to the pc

Thanks
Ok Gixxum,
You rock, I changed my deal to internet instead of automatic and it worked perfectly. I never thought to look there. Thanks. Now my roomate and I can surf the net at the same time.

wm1 said:
Ok Gixxum,
You rock, I changed my deal to internet instead of automatic and it worked perfectly. I never thought to look there. Thanks. Now my roomate and I can surf the net at the same time.
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rock on brother