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VOIP 3G issue... cannot seem to figure it out!

ok i have to admit I have not read every single post about the matter but a few hours has got me sick of it...My VOIP through VoipStunt works fine over WiFi; however, it acts very weird over 3G with AT&T: the call will go through (when I dial), the called phone will ring, the 8525 will show "connected"+timer when caled phone picks up, BUT the sound is non-existent both ways... could this be a block by AT&T??? What can I do if anything to resolve this...
Using AT&T ROM modded by vp3G on a clean hard reset with the Black Majik VOIP drivers + Schap's VOIP setup utility...+ Radio 1.51

Did you change the connection type in the VoIPstunt-options to dialup internet connection?

I am assuming no...Can u elaborate?

lax2tlv said:
I am assuming no...Can u elaborate?
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Run the program, then click the setting tab => Connection and change the connection type from High speed internet to dialup internet connection (use it when you have your phone as a modem). works fine for me.

WM6 Internet calling working over WiFi but not 3G

Hi there. I'm new to the forum and scratching my head on how to resolve a problem with VoIP over 3G.
I'm running the LVSW WM6 rom (great work by the way) on my iMate JasJam in order to take advantage of the integrated VoIP client. I used shaun33's SIP Config Tool to configure the SIP settings, and over WiFi it works like a charm!
The problem comes trying to use VoIP over 3G. When WiFi is turned off I get the "searching" message on the Today screen for a while, and then it changes to "No Service". I've used the config tool to enable VoIP over 3G/GSM, checked registry settings but nothing I try seems to make any difference.
I'm using the 3 network in Australia by the way, an the area of Sydney that I live in has good HSDPA coverage.
I've been scouring the forum and the web generally over the last few days trying to find an answer, all to no avail.
Is there anyone out there that can help?

Sling Player issues on TP2

Is anyone else having issues with the Sling Player not working with the TP2 over the T-Mobile US 3G Network.
I get the error message - "Unable to connect to Slingbox" only when I connect over the T-Mobile US 3G network.
When I connect over Wi-Fi from outside it connects and works perfectly.
Out of curiousity I tried Internet Sharing from the device launched Slingplayer from my computer using the tethered connection and it works perfectly.
This leads me to believe that T-Mobile is blocking the connection. Any ideas to get around it.
On a side note my SIM card is provisioned for the Total Internet and the Slingplayer works fine when I use the same SIM card on a Dash 3G.
I have the stock T-Mo ROM and no mods done to it.
Please help

Here in the UK my sling media player works fine over the 3 network and wifi. So I would think you are right and it's your network that is blocking it or some settings need to be changed.

I'm in Atlanta on the T-Mo 3G network and TP2. Slingplayer works great, way better than when I was with ATT. By the way I have the unlimited internet plan of $34.99 if that helps.

Are you using the finder ID ?
At the moment it's working ok for me using the (easier) sling finder ID. But,
I have have seen problems connecting in the past.
I'm currently running Energyrom Genesis (WM 6.5). I dont remember if the problem occured when I was running the original 6.1.
In any case, you might have better luck using direct IP access instead of the Sling Finder. It's kinda complicated if you've never delt with setting up Port Forwarding on your router.
You also will probably need to set up a dynamic DNS server to find you IP from the outside (unless you have a static IP - dyndns.com). I don't remember if the sling box can take care of this (I have a network HDD that performs the function).
There are instructions on the Sling web site.
This also has an advantage that you don't need to bounce through the sling site to find your box.

works well for me over $5.99 tzones, so its gotta be the settings you're using. as mentioned, try both the sling finder ID or the direct ip.

Works for me on unbranded TP2 on Tmobile. I suspect you need to go to Tmobile internet connection settings and untick Use proxy. I have done this to also get Exchange direct push email to work

doesn't work for me on new AT&T
I just got my AT&T Tilt2 today and Slingplayer isn't working. I get the same message. It works on my laptop, so it's not the Sling side. It also worked on my Fuze.

try making sure "use proxy" is not ticked. I do this as it seems better for surfing etc (never fan of proxies) but HAVE to do it for Exchange Activesync to work

kahibbi said:
I just got my AT&T Tilt2 today and Slingplayer isn't working. I get the same message. It works on my laptop, so it's not the Sling side. It also worked on my Fuze.
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Works fine on my Tilt2

lx_t said:
try making sure "use proxy" is not ticked. I do this as it seems better for surfing etc (never fan of proxies) but HAVE to do it for Exchange Activesync to work
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In my Connections, the Media Net setting under the Proxy section has "This network connects to the internet" checked, but there is no check on the "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet"
I went back to my Fuze and Slinplayer doesn't work on that now.
Could if be AT&T? I upgraded my phone but did not want to change anything on my account as I already had unlimited data and a text message package. Is there something they could have done there that will cause this? As previously stated, Slingplayer works on my laptop. The problem started mid-week this week about the time my new ATT Tilt2 would have been 'activated' and shipped.
Thanks!

Did you test it on WiFi? I loaded Sling on my stock AT&T Tilt2 and it works just fine (I had unlimited data before the switch). I had to add my Slingboxes seperately by entering their finder ID's but after that it worked.
I first tried it traveling in Austin TX and now in So Calif and it's all good. I'm also using WMLonglife and the radio stays normally in Edge, start Sling and the radio now auto switches to 3G and streams away. Close the prog and it switches back to Edge 2G.

RemE said:
Did you test it on WiFi? I loaded Sling on my stock AT&T Tilt2 and it works just fine (I had unlimited data before the switch). I had to add my Slingboxes seperately by entering their finder ID's but after that it worked.
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I did test it on wifi this morning ... no luck. That's when I thought it likely wasn't the service and it was the application (it was around 2:00 am when I was messing with this hours ago and was beat). I just don't know what has changed on the phone app. I guess I'll try deleting the current slingbox and add it back from scratch and see what happens. Thanks for the suggestions.

hopper13 said:
Works fine on my Tilt2
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Works fine on my tilt2 on AT&T...now if we could just get slingplayer to play at high resolutoin...its only at 320x240....at least push it to 640 x 480 would make picture sharper...

Works fine on my Tilt 2 on AT&T... Make sure you remove proxy and are using Media Net (wap.cingular)

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Works fine on my tilt2 on AT&T...now if we could just get slingplayer to play at high resolutoin...its only at 320x240....at least push it to 640 x 480 would make picture sharper...
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Likely a bandwidth issue :-(

iboj007 said:
Works fine on my Tilt 2 on AT&T... Make sure you remove proxy and are using Media Net (wap.cingular)
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Still nothing ... I've got the wap.cingular. Can you give me the step by step? I'm sorry, but I really need some assitance here. If I don't get this working, the Tilt2 goes back. I'm not sure what the problem is, as someone suggested bandwidth. But if Slingplayer is working for others, it should be working for me. If AT&T changed something on my simple phone upgrade (wanted to keep all cell, data and text services the same as my current), then I need to know. But if there's a simple setting I need to change, I'll do that. I am just unclear as to what eh exact steps are ... 1, 2, 3, etc. Sorry, but I need it simple since this doesn't appear to be working for me.
I just went back to clear storage and have the standard AT&T ROM. I ran the SlingPlayer Mobile .exe and loaded that to the phone. Please tell me what to do next. It seems as though if should be pretty simple from this step forward for those who have it working.
I need it that simple as everything I've tried isn't working.
Thanks!

I'd say make sure you have the latest Sling Mobile player. Mine worked straight off after I entered the slingfinder numbers. I did NOT have the proxy removed and it works just fine via WiFi, 2G, and 3G, but YouTube would not play videos until I removed proxy tonight.
Make sure that you can open a browser and freely surf the web, go to Sling Media, make sure you do have internet access?

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Likely a bandwidth issue :-(
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If you tether a PC thru your 3G phone and can run Slingbox player on the PC at 640x480 or better (as I regularly do) then it can't be a bandwidth issue. It is an artificial limitation of the PPC client.

It's working now ... for whatever reason?!
Well, if all else fails, then load the program again. This time it worked. Not sure what happened the first time around, but it's working now. I'm not sure what happened differently, but I guess it doesn't matter. It's working now. Thanks for the recommendations! Cheers!

anandkrish1 said:
Is anyone else having issues with the Sling Player not working with the TP2 over the T-Mobile US 3G Network.
I get the error message - "Unable to connect to Slingbox" only when I connect over the T-Mobile US 3G network.
When I connect over Wi-Fi from outside it connects and works perfectly.
Out of curiousity I tried Internet Sharing from the device launched Slingplayer from my computer using the tethered connection and it works perfectly.
This leads me to believe that T-Mobile is blocking the connection. Any ideas to get around it.
On a side note my SIM card is provisioned for the Total Internet and the Slingplayer works fine when I use the same SIM card on a Dash 3G.
I have the stock T-Mo ROM and no mods done to it.
Please help
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wow, i'm sorry you payed for the sling system :/

Can't receive calls when using Data network

I'm using T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 on AT&T network and cant receive calls when I'm on data network (read browsing, facebook app, slacker radio app).
I'm on AT&T EDGE. Is there anything that can be done to avoid this? Thanks.

blueguy19 said:
I'm using T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 on AT&T network and cant receive calls when I'm on data network (read browsing, facebook app, slacker radio app).
I'm on AT&T EDGE. Is there anything that can be done to avoid this? Thanks.
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The problem is that when you're using your T-mobile phone on the AT&T network, your data connection is through EDGE, not 3G...and one of the drawbacks to EDGE is that you can't have an active data connection at the same time as an active phone call.
It's a hardware restriction, caused by the different 3G bands AT&T and T-mobile use. Your only real solution would be to get an AT&T-branded phone so you can use their 3G bands, or start using t-mobile's network with your TP2 so you can use their 3G.

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The problem is that when you're using your T-mobile phone on the AT&T network, your data connection is through EDGE, not 3G...and one of the drawbacks to EDGE is that you can't have an active data connection at the same time as an active phone call.
It's a hardware restriction, caused by the different 3G bands AT&T and T-mobile use. Your only real solution would be to get an AT&T-branded phone so you can use their 3G bands, or start using t-mobile's network with your TP2 so you can use their 3G.
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Agreed that you can't do both at the same time, but it sounds like the phone should still automatically suspend the data session to take the phone call. Sounds like an application is forcing the data connection to stay active, what programs do you have installed?

Toleraen said:
Agreed that you can't do both at the same time, but it sounds like the phone should still automatically suspend the data session to take the phone call. Sounds like an application is forcing the data connection to stay active, what programs do you have installed?
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I think it would be nice if it worked that way....but that's not how it's been for me. Maybe there's a registry setting that makes it one way or the other, but on the custom roms I've used it doesn't work the "nice" way. Calls go to voice mail if I'm actively accessing/transferring data (on an EDGE connection).
Are you saying that your TP2 actually does suspend the data session -- from personal experience? Or just that it should be that way?

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I think it would be nice if it worked that way....but that's not how it's been for me. Maybe there's a registry setting that makes it one way or the other, but on the custom roms I've used it doesn't work the "nice" way. Calls go to voice mail if I'm actively accessing/transferring data (on an EDGE connection).
Are you saying that your TP2 actually does suspend the data session -- from personal experience? Or just that it should be that way?
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I can't say for sure on my TP2 as I've generally got 3G coverage everywhere I go. When I was using my 8525 I specifically remember being impressed the first time I was in the middle of a download and it recovered after taking a phone call, was definitely a custom ROM too. Probably was WinMo 6.0 at that time though.

When you are using data and recieve a call it should stop data and allow the call to go thru when you are using EDGE. Since you are using a none AT&T device they probably wont fix the issue unless you reproduce the issue with an AT&T device. Also i tested this on my TMO TP2 by loading a website and making a call to my TP2 at the same time and it stopped my data as the call came thru then when i ignored the call it continued to load the website.

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When you are using data and recieve a call it should stop data and allow the call to go thru when you are using EDGE. Since you are using a none AT&T device they probably wont fix the issue unless you reproduce the issue with an AT&T device. Also i tested this on my TMO TP2 by loading a website and making a call to my TP2 at the same time and it stopped my data as the call came thru then when i ignored the call it continued to load the website.
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It may depend on other factors then -- like maybe what rom you're running. After I posted above I tested this again -- to confirm what I posted, by starting the download of a very large file. I then called my phone from a landline and sure-enough the call went to VM after a few rings. So, maybe just a characteristic of my ROM, but it's definitely true for me on T-Mo USA (on EDGE). When I stopped the download my phone received calls just fine, so it's not a general receiving-calls issue.
Tomorrow when I'm at work -- and have a full-strength 3G connection -- I'll try it again to confirm that it does receive during 3G data. I've done that test before -- I've received calls with my laptop tethered to the TP2 on 3G and kept the data connection and received the call, but I haven't tried with the rom I'm currently running.

Sik96teG said:
When you are using data and recieve a call it should stop data and allow the call to go thru when you are using EDGE. Since you are using a none AT&T device they probably wont fix the issue unless you reproduce the issue with an AT&T device. Also i tested this on my TMO TP2 by loading a website and making a call to my TP2 at the same time and it stopped my data as the call came thru then when i ignored the call it continued to load the website.
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I experienced the same thing with my EDGE-only Wizard (8125) on AT&T...incoming calls would be routed straight to voicemail if I had an active data connection going. And, whenever I would try to make an outgoing call, I would get an error message telling me that I couldn't make the call until I closed the data connection.
We all agree that EDGE can't multi-task like that, so to speak...but I think the issue of prioritizing or not prioritizing voice over data is handled at the device level, and/or by carrier control, rather than as a function of what the network can/can't do. My guess at this point is that there might be a reg setting that controls giving calls default priority at all times, but I have no idea what/where it is

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but I think the issue of prioritizing or not prioritizing voice over data is handled at the device level, and/or by carrier control, rather than as a function of what the network can/can't do. My guess at this point is that there might be a reg setting that controls giving calls default priority at all times, but I have no idea what/where it is
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking....well, guessing really -- I don't know. But I know what my experiment showed. A registry setting could explain why it would work for some and not others. Or could a different radio-rom possibly make a difference?
I have no idea.

MCbrian said:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking....well, guessing really -- I don't know. But I know what my experiment showed. A registry setting could explain why it would work for some and not others. Or could a different radio-rom possibly make a difference?
I have no idea.
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Now that you mention it, my money is on the radio (don't know why I didn't think of that).
blueguy, what radio are you using? And for that matter, what ROM? ATT, Tmo, or...? I'll test it on mine just like MCbrian did, since I have a different radio (.14), once I recall how to force my toy into EDGE-only mode. so, tomorrow morning
EDIT: sik96teg, same question to you...what radio/ROM are you using?

right now im on 4.49.25.57(i believe this is the stock tmo 6.5) radio and i have tried a few other radios over the last few monthes(never really tested them but dont recall this issue). i use to be on an energy rom and now im on leo cell evo rom. Also when i did have this issue a long time ago i called tmobile and they stated at the time it was a known issue and it was suppose to be resolved in a few days and a few days later it started to work. I also made about 10 calls and only one of them didnt come thru to the phone. My home phone rang for about 30 secs then went to vm but no indicator on the device but that only occured 1 out of 10 tries.

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Tomorrow when I'm at work -- and have a full-strength 3G connection -- I'll try it again to confirm that it does receive during 3G data. I've done that test before -- I've received calls with my laptop tethered to the TP2 on 3G and kept the data connection and received the call, but I haven't tried with the rom I'm currently running.
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Just confirming what I thought: On a 3G data connection, data-transfer continues and the voice call is received simultaneously, as it should.

Thanks for your inputs and my answers
I'm using Tmobile ROM which upgraded me from WinMo 6.1 to WinMo 6.5. I'm not sure what was the radio on it. But I flashed it with Hard-SPL and then with 4.49.25.88 Radio.
Even then the issue still persists
I read somewhere it happens due to NOM1 and NOM2 kind of EDGE network. NOM1 has capabilities to suspend data connection and give preference to phone call, NOM2 doesnt support this behavior. It seems AT&T is using NOM2 in my area. I'm not sure though if this is causing the issue that I'm experiencing.
I called AT&T Technical Support and they said they see my phone as Unkown device and can' support it.
Please this is really annoying, any help is appreciated.

Same here, I am currently with the new official (ok better leaked) ROM and the Radio that was provided (the latest).
The point is that when I am on 3G i can receive both data and calls which is obvious. Now after reading this thread I noticed that when I am on standard GSM and someone calls me, they get notified that my phone is switched off.
What is weird is the fact that there should have been an option to state Call over Data or the opposite for that matter. I think my old Nokia N95 had a similar option.
So, yeah, is that a bug or a feature?

i'm just guessing...but, I believe the simultaneous data/call is a function of 3G .....EDGE is the bare-bones basic thing....
at least that's how they make it sound in the commercials
....i should have read the replies in the thread...

stormrain said:
when I am on standard GSM and someone calls me, they get notified that my phone is switched off.
What is weird is the fact that there should have been an option to state Call over Data or the opposite for that matter. I think my old Nokia N95 had a similar option.
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When I tested this (on EDGE) by calling my TP2 from landline it went to voicemail. Another time I was on EDGE and someone tried to call me and they had your experience: "Out of area/unreachable". And this was within 24 hours, on the same rom without changing any setting (at least, not on purpose).
I've never seen an option to set data/voice priority.
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I flashed Energy ROM with .88 radio, it did improve download speed. But still don't receive calls while using data.
Is there any other ROM which allows this?

The Rhodium isn't capable of simultaneous data and voice.
You should have a GPRS Class A phone, but that should have 2 antennas. (See link)
So only one of them is active, data OR voice.
But normally it should pause the data connections and give priority to the voice connection.

ronh said:
The Rhodium isn't capable of simultaneous data and voice.
You should have a GPRS Class A phone, but that should have 2 antennas. (See link)
So only one of them is active, data OR voice.
But normally it should pause the data connections and give priority to the voice connection.
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I believe it IS capable, if you are on 3G data. Not if you are EDGE / GPRS.

ronh said:
The Rhodium isn't capable of simultaneous data and voice.
You should have a GPRS Class A phone, but that should have 2 antennas. (See link)
So only one of them is active, data OR voice.
But normally it should pause the data connections and give priority to the voice connection.
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stevedebi said:
I believe it IS capable, if you are on 3G data. Not if you are EDGE / GPRS.
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Yes -- it absolutely is, as stevedebi states, on 3G. So the limitation on EDGE isn't the phone, really, it's the nature of EDGE/GPRS.

Tethering and Talking at the same time

I have the need to be on the phone and share internet at the same time. I was curious if anyone was able to do this with the rhodium.
Every time I receive a call or make a call it seems to disconnect the internet connection.
Is there a way to do both simultaneously?
Thanks, George

pigphish said:
I have the need to be on the phone and share internet at the same time. I was curious if anyone was able to do this with the rhodium.
Every time I receive a call or make a call it seems to disconnect the internet connection.
Is there a way to do both simultaneously?
Thanks, George
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from my understanding, it should work unless you are on verizon...i do it quite often, with no problem, on tmo...

I do this pretty frequently with my Tilt2. Like Da9th said though it requires a GSM version with a 3G connection though.

I'm able to receive a call while tethered -- and not lose the data/tether connection -- but it has to be a 3G connection, not EDGE.
This is on T-Mobile USA, but I think it's true for GSM carriers in general.