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XDAII powered car mount Arkon CM532

t'ello all....
I have just bought an arkon CM532 with xda2 adaptor. This seems to do the job as a hands free kit, with the usual bugs of noisy GPRS feedback etc, but I can live with that....BUT - I need a GPS ariel that will plug into the cradle and thus the xda2.....I have tomtom software ready to go, but I dont really want a bluetooth GPS, as we all know, bluetooth and xda = hell.
Any ideas?????
Would this work from ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3730&item=5134905894&rd=1

No idea where you got the idea that BlueTooth GPS and the XDA2 are incompatible - mine worked fine after the first O2 update was applied...

As long as you get the right cable it should be fine.
Bluetooth is more convenient, as you only need the adaptor for charging, and most journeys take less than the GPS battery life.
I use a Pretec Bluetooth GPS I bought from eBay,
works fine.

its not so much the bluetooth that puts me off, more the fact that the arkon has the ability to charge a gps receiver that is connected to it via the RJ11 socket, and I want to know which gps reciever has this RJ11 connector. Otherwise, if I go the bluetooth route, I will have 2 cigarette adapators, and only 1 cigrette lighter socket! Plus, ill forget to charge the receiver too.....

Are you sure you have a Arkon CM532 - mine has no RJ11 sockets anywhere!
What it does have are two power-only USB ports on the base - either side of the regular 5v input socket - and a 5v output on the side which feeds my Socket GPS.
I can also recommend sticky-backed velcro as a fastening medium for attaching the GPS to the side-arm of the Akron.
That said, I really dislike the Arkon - I'd much rather a dedicated until like the one made by CarComm. However, the only UK distributor are idiots.

xda2 cradle for sale
CMPC-15 Mobile PDA Cradle for XDA II / MDA II / Qtek 2020 / i-Mate
Cradle for the XDA II / MDA II / Qtek 2020 / i-Mate with original bottom connector and steady fitting for the XXDA II / MDA II / Qtek 2020 / i-Mate. Specially designed for mobile use.Charging pcb is build-in the cradle. RS-232 and PS/2 connections for connecting the PDA to for example an GPS Receiver. Also with power input connections.
Just got my new Imate PDA2K and it does not fit
£30+p+p

phone holder4
hi guys
i have this and its crap you cant hear on the speaker because of the interference from the phone i use it without the electrics.
regards kevin :evil:

its works fine as a holder and charger. as it was designed not a hands free kit
its works fine tomtom bluetooth gps sony ericsson headset

thanks all....ive gone for the tomtom 3 gps receiver.im assured that it has the relevant RJ11 connector...Ill let you all know how it goes!
On the side issue of the car kit thing, this arkon kit is pretty good I have to say, but I was always aware that it was not really a hands free car phone like those by nokia etc, and will probably jump the bluetooth headset way soon....any ideas which?

Release of TomTom Car Holder for QTek 9090

Hi all,
I wanted to order the TomTom wireless (BT) 2 days ago and since it was meant to be used with QTek 9090 I was (by a big reseller, web shop in The Netherlands) told better to wait till end of January.
TomTom will release a new package (including Bluetooth version) of their software within 3 weeks. This package is fully QTek 9090 compliant meaning the car holder is adjusted for use with QTek 9090 (a so-called "TomTom QTek Navigation Pack" and "TomTom Navigator 3 Bluetooth"), contains a cable to charge the battery while driving, GPS receiver (Wired/Wirless), Software.....
http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=1&language=1
kind regards,
- Avareh ([email protected])

Hi Avareh,
Any news about the above release from your source? I checked with TomTom yesterday to see when/if a Qtek 9090 kit would be released (versus purchasing the, rather ugly looking, universal kit) and got the following reply:
"... The TomTom XDA model 2 car holder will work. We have no current plans at present to make a dedicated car kit for this model.
We hope to have answered your question to your satisfaction.
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team"
Not the answer I was hoping for. Which carkit would be a good alternative?
www.brodit.com looks good but the many choices are confusing. What would be the 'ideal' brodit for a Qtek 9090 in combination with a TTN3 Bluetooth set-up?

brodit holders
I am using this holder with a 9090 connected to a TomTom GPS through cable. It will work very nicely with most cables for 12V charging as well:
Holder f. Cable Connection
For GPS-cable, or sync-/data-/charging-cable.
Item no: 846612
http://w3.easytrade.net/brodit_shop/product.dip?item=1244367&fid=1244483
If you are thinking of running the 9090 without any cables whatsoever I would recommend the passive holder:
Passive Holder,Tilt Swivel
Item no: 848612
http://w3.easytrade.net/brodit_shop/product.dip?item=1241216&fid=1241351
Regards
Chris

Hi Argeles,
I heard also the same from TomTom support team when I called them a few days ago. When I again called my dealer to verify what they had promised, he told me :
The release of TomTom active holder meant for Qtek 9090 has been delayed.
That the local distributor in The Netherlands had told him TomTom support team was telling nonsense.
The distributor claimed that the TomTom passive car holder is being tested right now and that's the reason why the release of active holder being postponed for a few weeks.
Anyway, here in NL is the Broadit Active holder also the one being offered by many dealers. The only problem with this one is the fact you can't use such active ones with your Qtek 9090 when you use a PDA case (like Piel Frama). This means that you have to take the device out of the case each time you wanna put it into your car holder. The 'ugly' universal holder like HR Richter has no such problem. The only disadvantage of such holder is that you have to order a 2-in-1 cable for charging the Qtek 9090 and your Bluetooth GPS receiver.
I wonder if there is any active holder by which you can also use the leather case at the same time.
kind regards,
- Avareh ([email protected])

Hi Avareh,
Many thanks for the info. To wait or not to wait that is the question. Are you also still waiting?BTW The HR Richter looks identical to the TomTom universal holder. When I finally do get TTN3 BT + Qtek9090 I'll need a fast 1GB memory card for the TomTom maps of Europe, but that's another problem (here also a choice not as straight forward as one would first think, judging by the memory card discussions on this site).
Best Regards,
Argeles/Robbert

Herbert Richter manufacture the TomTom cradles as well as cradles for many other manufacturers. Brodit mounts are superb, I have three in car although I use Carcomm's XDA cradle with my XDAII, see here.

Hi again,
This is what I meant with hearing nonsense after calling support team of TomTom in The Netherlands.
looking at their site there is no sign of any QTek 9090 compatible car kit at http://www.tomtom.com/products/compatibility.php?ID=9&Language=1
However, looking at this URL it seems that still there is a TomTom car mounting kit for Qtek 9090: http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=A11XDA2SMNT&cat=23
kind regards,
- Avareh ([email protected])

Whilst the QTek 9090 Carkit on the PDA Mods site does appear to be identical to TomTom's Carkit range it does not mean that is an officially sanctioned TomTom carkit hence why you can't find it on TomTom's site.
Looking at it, it is almost certainly manufactured by HR though so should be a good 'un.

Well, I strongly doubt it Darren. It looks exactly the same as other TomTom car kits, has exactly the same detailed snapshots (which you also can find on official web site of TomTom) regarding extended power & GPS connection and the descriptive text begins with " The TomTom Car Kit allows you ...".
The only thing I hear here in NL is the fact the few products (sometimes) are introduced earlier in one country than others. That's probably the reason why you can't find any official announcement in the European web site of TomTom.
kind regards,
- Avareh ([email protected])

griffog said:
Whilst the QTek 9090 Carkit on the PDA Mods site does appear to be identical to TomTom's Carkit range it does not mean that is an officially sanctioned TomTom carkit hence why you can't find it on TomTom's site.
Looking at it, it is almost certainly manufactured by HR though so should be a good 'un.
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Well, I ordered the PDAMODS.com XDA 11s car kit on Thursday and it arrived the next day so 10/10 for service.
I already had a car mounting kit from TomTom for my iPaq 4150. Parts from that kit ie some cables and mounts are interchangeable with the XDA 11s kit from PDAMODS.com. The PDAMODS base mount has a very high flexible stalk to move around and position the XDA which i didn't like at all so i used the mount from the iPaq which does not have any stalk and found that the mounting slots on the back of that fit perfectly into the XDA mounting bracket. Looks much much better. There was no power cable supplied for linking the XDA mount to the TomTom Bluetooth SatNav receiver which is annoying and dissapointing. I had to use the cable that was in the iPaq car kit and it fitted perfectly into the XDA holder. The car cigarette power cable with the XDA is OK but is very very short.
Overall, the PDAMODS.com kit is clearly not a genuine TomTom part. The quality of the plastic and other materials are not as good as a genuine TomTom car kit. To get the perfect results I had to mix and match parts from both kits. If you do order the PDAMODS kit it will work perfectly well with your XDA but you might end up wishing you had waited for the official TomTom car kit.

XDA IIs custom mount / kit for tomtom 5

http://www.pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=23 have a custom mount for the XDA IIs this works with the wired GPS receiver from tomtom with rj11 cable
However I think the Vodaphone VPA connector is different and I have found it is a different connector, can someone confirm this ?

jashry said:
http://www.pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=23 have a custom mount for the XDA IIs this works with the wired GPS receiver from tomtom with rj11 cable
However I think the Vodaphone VPA connector is different and I have found it is a different connector, can someone confirm this ?
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Can't say, but I do have that cradle from pdamods with my XDAIIs and it works a treat. It needs a little bit of self-adhesive velcro (the soft side) stuck on the inside to stop the PDA from rattling, but otherwise it's great.
I'd be amazed if the VPA is any different as they are all basically the same unit, but it would be worth trying. Sadly, I had a VPA on my desk until last week when I sent it back to Vodafone, but I never tried it in this cradle
Side-by-side pics:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/10/vodafone_vpa_iii/

I do not think it works, does anyone have a Vodaphone VPA that can confirm, please ??? They seem to have changed the socket

Wired TOMTOM GPS receiver.

I am contemplating on getting a wired TOMTOM GPS receiver.
I read a few posts ago that a wired one would be better than bluetooth if you want to use a bleutooth headseat and a bluetooth receiver at the same time. The call disconnects?
Anyways, I just wanted to verify this before I buy the wired TOMTOM receiver from ebay.
Also, I need to know how it will connect to the XDA IIs. The websites say its SERIAL port. How do you connect a serial port to the XDA?
Also need advice on GPS as well. I have the TOMTOM 5 software and all the maps installed on the SD card. All I need is a device now.
SHould I go for bluetooth?
Should I go for wired GPS?
Which is the best brand of GPS receivers?
Would I face any problems if I operate bleutooth headseat and gps receiver at the same time?
Thank.s

No replies? Guys come on.. you must know something. TOMTOM gurus all over.

Wired GPS
Alitech
I have a wired receiver, not a TOMTOM one but one I got from Expansys. It works fine and I imagine the setup is the same as when I setup TOMTOM I had to select TOMTOM Wired receiver.
My collegue has a bluetooth receiver and I tested it outo n my phone. It worked fine but took a while to boot up (the receiver, not the phone)
The benefit that I find from the wired receiver is that it charges the phone as well. I use a bluetooth headset occasionally but due to the issues with the in-call volume going I tend to use a wired handsfree (but I'm about to upgrade the ROM to the imate one if I can find it)
Connecting to the serial port on the XDA - use the power supply port and ensure that you turn off your infrared port. this then allows you to use the COM1 port on the phone (having the IR active means that it uses the COM1 instead).
I found the receiver from Expansys fine to use and quite cheap. It has a quick warmup time and, like I said, charges the phone at the same time. My collegue with the bluetooth one can't charge the phone and the gps at the same time.
Hope this helps. My phone is the SPV M2000 btw.

So which is the best wired GPS for the XDA IIs ?

problems with wired
I have just got a wired gps for tomtom5 and i can't connect it to my spv m2000.
I have switched off ir beam done hard resets and so on but still it doesn't work. So be a little careful...other people seem to have had no trouble but something is causing trouble

Tom Tom GPS's
I bought the wired GPS with with the software from TomTom, and it works perfectly.
I also got bored and managed to wire up my XDAIIs to my Road Angel via the same RJ port as the TT wired GPS uses.
Plus, when I'm in other peoples cars, I have a generic BT GPS.
They all work as good as one another.

Ok once again, a lot of confusions.
Which is the best GPS receiver? Which one should we go for. Something that will work with the XDA IIs and fit into the charging and sync port.
Models and makes ?

Go for Wired
I currently use and XDA IIi with a wired GPS Receiver, You can purchase a good cradle at http://www.pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=23 which enables you to charge the handset and power the GPS receiver through the cradle, the GPS receiver connects via a RJ socket in the cradle. You have the option to buy the cradle and the receiver as a package for around £85 which comes complete with various mounting options. Personally i went for specialized mounting bracket called a safety clip which is completely non destructive and is available from www.brodit.com. Hope this helps.

Ok.. now I got it. So a good option would be going for a tomtom mount.
Upon research, I found this one.
http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=A11XDA2SMNT&cat=23
It has the option to buy a FUZION GPS receiver with it.
I think I will go ahead and order it.
Will I need another mount of some sort? I believe the tomtom cradle is already a mount with various mounting options.

FYI: I use this:
- Rikaline GPS-6010-X5 (approx. € 70)
- Brodit active holder (approx € 60)
The holder will both charge the pda and the gps reciever. Quality of the reciever is very good.
Also FYI: I do have a bluetooth carkit from Parrot. You will find out that bluetooth on this pda means trouble, probably also with the GPS.

Can you provide any urls for these products.
cant find the broadit holder on the website.

I have the TOMTOM BT
I have no problems with my XDAIIs .... but i also dont use a BT headset ! i just use speakerphone !
I love the BT, i can take it from car to car and mountain bike
I have the xda charging on a usb car lighter socket and 1 charge of the gps lasts 4 hours - enough for my journeys ... but a car charger for this is only 6quid anyway and i can mount it in the boot!
i agree the BT is crap on this device, but i hope a rom will fix it.
Rich

I'm using a Holux GPS cradle with an Orange SPV M2000. Has some issues when you first buy it but if you look for my input on the thread you'll see how I got around it and I now use it daily in my own car and also hire cars without issue. Wouldn't say i'd recommend it wholeheartedly but if the advantages are suitable for you and you're prepared to mod it a bit it might work for you. http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modul...opic&t=13307&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Thanks for the comment. Seems like an interesting product.
Does anyone know where I can buy the Brodit Active Cradle For GPS for the XDA IIs?

Handsfree Car Kit and GPS

I am trying to work out the best way to set up the following in my car:
1 ) GPS on my Exec using bluetooth and TomTom 5.2
2 ) Bluetooth handsfree phone use using Motorola Razor
3 ) Car mount kit with charger.
I intend to have all of the above properly installed so no loose wires and mess.
From everything I have picked up from others the Brodit is the best solution for a mounting kit, so i will definately order that.
My dilema is I do not use the exec as a phone as it is just not pratical for that, so whilst i really like the idea of the Parrot CK 3300 I am not sure if it will pair with my Razor to use as a phone and the Exec for bluetooth GPS operation at the same time. If this is possible then it makes life easy. On the rare occaison that is use the Exec as a phone in the car it's own handsfree is pretty good any way. I also understand that the Parrot GPS uses the Exec speakers rather than the Car radio for the spoken directions so there is not need to have it access the car sound system.
The other alternative is to get the Parrot CK3100 for the handsfree car GSM bit , buy TT 5.2 then find a separate GPS receiver.
Does anyone either have experince of doing this or and idea of the best way.
Any suggestions here will be greatfully received.
Charlie

I've paired my CK3300 before with my XDA Exec and a Nokia 6600.
Used the XDA for GPS and the Nokia for handsfree.
When you pair the XDA with the CK3300 you get the list of devices on the Parrot and you get handsfree and serial port - You will only want to pair the serial port part of it. Just pair your RAZR as you would with a regular headset and it should all work.
Good luck!

numanoids
Thanks for the quick reply. That is very encouraging to hear. It really simplifies things if i can go down that route. I will order the bits on Monday, unless anyone has a better solution for this. Also can you confirm if the GPS spounds come throught he Exec speakers rather than the Car stereo?
Do you have any other advice about this?
Charlie

Yes the GPS sounds come through the exec and not the car kit.
Just trying to think if there is anything else you need to be aware of.......
It all should be pretty easy to be honest - just make sure when pairing the device that you use the advanced settings and choose pair with a windows ce device.