Ok, so I've upgraded my ROM to try both Kavana's latest ROM, Rickywatt's v24 vanilla and v24 no opera ROM all with the same issues.
I purchased a Class-4 8GB micro-SDHC card, and loaded it up to almost full of music, and here are my symptoms:
- WMP will Play the music after 30-60 lag between clicks and songs.
- The HTC audio software won't even play a song. I get it into the library and it is incredibly slow. When I click a track to play it, the handheld practically locks.
- While a song is playing, the entire system is bogged down.
Here is what I've tried:
- I've tried putting all the music (3500 tracks) into a single "Music" folder on the card
- I've also tried putting all the music into individual folders by author which effectively reduces the amount of files in one single folder.
Any ideas? Has anyone else gotten a class 4 SDHC card of any size to work properly, or get an 8gb card to work without lagging down the system?
travis.garrison said:
Ok, so I've upgraded my ROM to try both Kavana's latest ROM, Rickywatt's v24 vanilla and v24 no opera ROM all with the same issues.
I purchased a Class-4 8GB micro-SDHC card, and loaded it up to almost full of music, and here are my symptoms:
- WMP will Play the music after 30-60 lag between clicks and songs.
- The HTC audio software won't even play a song. I get it into the library and it is incredibly slow. When I click a track to play it, the handheld practically locks.
- While a song is playing, the entire system is bogged down.
Here is what I've tried:
- I've tried putting all the music (3500 tracks) into a single "Music" folder on the card
- I've also tried putting all the music into individual folders by author which effectively reduces the amount of files in one single folder.
Any ideas? Has anyone else gotten a class 4 SDHC card of any size to work properly, or get an 8gb card to work without lagging down the system?
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All i can say is get a SanDisk not a generic.
Thanks for the input but this is a Kingston branded card. Kingston is a reputable company, and not generic in the least.
Does anyone have any advice besides "get a different card?"
My 2GB non-SDHC works fine without any lag... of course it's a smaller capacity.
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Thanks for the input but this is a Kingston branded card. Kingston is a reputable company, and not generic in the least.
Does anyone have any advice besides "get a different card?"
My 2GB non-SDHC works fine without any lag... of course it's a smaller capacity.
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Sorry just persumed that it was generic due to the problem.
Format your card to fat32.
Thanks for the suggestion on the formatting. Vista says that it's currently formatted into FAT32... It came that way from the factory, but I am thinking about reformatting it from my phone... perhaps it doesn't like the size of the FAT tables.
Ummm try formatting it through an xp computer and see if that helps.
what format are your music files? have you tried loading less then 3000+ songs...maybe 50 and see if the problem persists.
have you tried a standard 1 or 2 gig micro card?
and go get tcpmp or core player...
is anything else slow? movie file? just navigating around the phone? any lag?
Yeah, something is funny with the formatting, because when I went to delete off all but 50 or so songs I would select all of the songs, and delete them but Windows would refresh with more songs that weren't "visible" before. I am reformatting the card right now, and then I will see if 50 files works. If that works I'll proceed with more songs.
The songs are MP3 format without DRM encoded into 128kbps. They all play just fine on my 2GB card and on my Laptop.
I'll try TCPMP if those don't work.
If I am not accessing that music through a player or file explorer, then the phone is not slow or sluggish at all. I've taken pictures with the phone and have no problems there. I have not tried playing video, but I suspect it would be fine too.
I reformatted the card into FAT32 (32Kb allocation units) and put a couple hundred songs on it. It was responsive and without error, so I filled it up with music and here is what I get now:
- Windows Media Player will play the songs but with a 30-60 second delay between button presses (play/pause, next back)
- HTC Audio Manager locks and exits to the home screen when a song is clicked on to play (after about 10 sec).
-TCPMP will run and add all of the songs to the playlist, and switches songs with only a short (4 sec) delay between songs.
Even though TCPMP runs acceptably, I consider this only a workaround. Does anyone else have ideas about how to get the HTC Audio Manager working? I am running Rickywatt's Vanilla v24 ROM of WM 6.1...
This is probably content for another post but I was surprised that the vanilla ROM isn't very vanilla. It still has a lot of software imbedded into the ROM.
I've noticed a similar problem myself with my Dash.
I recently got an 8 GB Sandisk class 4 microSDHC card for my Dash (Ricky's rom) with the intention of using it (in tandem with my Jabra 8010 bt stereo headset) as my main music player.
I only have 739 songs on it right now (less than half full) and here's what I've found:
-Windows Media Player has several problems:
---MAJOR lag (30 sec.) when switching tracks, bringing up the menu, etc.
---Tags in the library are messed up. I might end up with 3 album listings for the same album, some tracks are not associated with their albums or artists, etc.
-HTC Audio Manager works great! No lag at all between tracks and correctly reads all my tags (even the ones that WMP messes up).
-TCPMP works good, no problems with it, it's interface is just not optimal for music listening at all. It just crashes the phone whenever I try to blank the screen.
-Pocket Tunes is a wonderful player. It works great with no problems and has great playlist support. It has been my favorite music player on my Palm OS devices for many years; sadly, my trial period is ending soon for the WM version and I really can't justify spending the $37.95 for it.
So, in short, I'm using HTC's Audio Manager for now because WMP is so horribly slow. I just wish that it had a way to blank the screen like WMP does.
I do remember WMP working great when I had my smaller card, so is it just a problem with the library size?
After doing some more testing, and TCPMP isn't as bug free as I thought. I have to create and save a playlist of all the songs, then open TCPMP from that playlist for it to work... otherwise it loads for like 5 minutes and crashes the phone.
I did get HTC Audio manager to work, but that's only from a fresh reboot of the phone and it only works until I exit the app. Here is my guess unless someone else comes up with a better answer:
- WM 6.1 on a 186MHz processor isn't going to be able to quickly index and deliver the 3500+ songs on the 8GB card... This would explain why 400 songs worked fine.
- Perhaps there is a buffer size limit or some other registry hack that can be done to make the file indexing work better for large directories.
youre gonna have to accept that wmp is kinda junk
and tcpmp is the champ.
Ok, I can buy that, but it still doesn't help that TCPMP and Audio Manager still aren't working to the capacity that I need them to.
I'd say Windows Media Player is the problem. However, what's bit rate of you mp3? 320k? Have you tried lower bit rate? Or, even encode with WMA? I know, re-encoding sounds like a big job, do it over night while you're sleeping...
Good point. All of the files are already 128kbps encoded. Also, the problems are existing in more than just WMP. It is also a problem in TCPMP and HTC Audio Manager.
Lately I have been playing around with cooking my own version of The Rose 1.6 ROM that Stylez and Rickwyatt are working on. All I'm doing is removing files and programs that I don't use. It seems like the more I remove, the less of a delay I experience on the song loading and playing. I think the issue is with the amount of memory available.
Guys,
My phone, WM 6.1, HTC S621, does accept my SDHC 4gb card, but it doesnt play anything thru player! I've tried core player, htc audio manage, windows media player, no luck.. =(
There's no problem with the speak on the phone, it works perfectly.. Can anyone help me? Anyone encountered such problem?
Thank you
===Update===
The card works with with tmobile wing, no problem.
Both phones have WM 6.1, in both the card is recognized.. But there's no sound coming out of htc s621.. sigh..
Hi
I've noticed since upgrading that now when listening to music any other SD card usage ie downloads or news retrieval causes the playback to cutout for a second as the data is written. Anyone have this problem. It used to be fine before 2.2.
Ta
I have noticed this too actually.
haven't tried much past the stock media player tho,
Can't say I've really noticed any of these problems.
It's probably that more things are stored on the SD card with froyo so it is being accessed more than before.
What SD card do you have? I would say you need a decent one with a decent speed class.
Phil
I noticed this with the stock player.
I am now running mixzing, which is a fantastic app, the first I have actually paid for.
It allows you to change the buffer size, and I haven't noticed it skip since. (16Gb Class 2 card)
I`ve tried the stock player, mixzing and double twist and they all have problems.
I put the buffer upto very high on mixzing but still problems.
I notice it most if i do a refresh in the Newsroom app, but also when browsing in astro but not as bad. I`m using a transcend 8gb class 2 card.
Hi all,
I have an unrooted unbranded Desire on latest firmware.
When I record a sample 30 second HD video it plays back on the computer fine.
However, when I try to playback a HD video from the gallery on the phone it stutters and plays very badly the first time. If I play it again immediately it is perfectly smooth. It's like it has cached it the second time so it plays smooth.
Can someone check this on their phone and tell me if perhaps it's just my card speed (class 2). I think it may be the card because of the fact it only stutters the first time like its trying to read/play at the same time. On second playing it's fine.
any feedback would be great. thanks alot!!!
Would anyone like to try and replicate it? just record a 30second HD video and play it back on the phone. Is it smooth on first playback or does it stutter.
I think it might be the memory card, but don't want to shell out 60euro on a class 4 unless I'm mostly sure. thanks alot
Myself and others have been experiencing much slower SD card speeds in Froyo than in Eclair. See this thread and this one. I think that your problem could be related, and if so buying a faster SD card probably won't help.
thanks Koider
i have tried rockplayer, moboplayer and default player... the video plays smooth but at times, it freezes for 1-2 milliseconds.. it's not totally smooth... i recalled i did not had this problem before... maybe my system is too full?
Your not going to get any better than moboplayer. So your going to have to put up with it.
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yours have the same problem? just want to know if it's normal.. i just played some 720p vids and didn't have this problem... it's just sometimes that i get this performance issue... maybe i have too much stuff running in background
You could try a higher quality SD card.
I've also heard, that a smaller SD (4gb) sometimes performs better than a larger one as far as data transfer.
so you guys don't have this problem? ok will try a better sd card.. think mine is just a normal one
I don't watch films from mine. Too old and need glasses
My zune is on its way out with the audio jack starting to give me problems. seeing as i dont have the skills to repair it myself I was hoping to use a family members upgrade who doesn't want a new phone to grab this phone. From a quick play through with it the device feels pretty close to the zune music player. Can anyone tell me more about it as a media player? Also if i were to leave it in airplane mode what could i expect on battery life.
nobo77 said:
My zune is on its way out with the audio jack starting to give me problems. seeing as i dont have the skills to repair it myself I was hoping to use a family members upgrade who doesn't want a new phone to grab this phone. From a quick play through with it the device feels pretty close to the zune music player. Can anyone tell me more about it as a media player? Also if i were to leave it in airplane mode what could i expect on battery life.
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I have the weak but functional HTC Trophy for work because I wanted to learn Windows Phone 7 but not ready to give up Android. It has the Zune player on it but I can honestly say it is not a replacement. For one, we are limited to 16 Gig storage, so you for sure can sync more music than that. And as far as I know, you cannot make playlists with streaming ZunePass music. Plus, I miss the scrolling text, time, etc information as a song is playing like the ZuneHD does.
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I have the weak but functional HTC Trophy for work because I wanted to learn Windows Phone 7 but not ready to give up Android. It has the Zune player on it but I can honestly say it is not a replacement. For one, we are limited to 16 Gig storage, so you for sure can sync more music than that. And as far as I know, you cannot make playlists with streaming ZunePass music. Plus, I miss the scrolling text, time, etc information as a song is playing like the ZuneHD does.
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I'm not sure how you're using the phone for music, but when I go to play a song it shows me album art, time lapsed and time remaining as well as the time of day at top-right of the screen.
I have plenty of playlists, some auto and some not, that include zune pass music and they all work just fine.
I had the old Zune 120GB model and while it had more space I don't know anyone who actually needs 600 hours of music with them at all times, the 16GB has suited me just fine I have a ton of my favorite tracks as well as video/audio podcasts that I take to work with me at all times, it's great.
xyexz said:
I'm not sure how you're using the phone for music, but when I go to play a song it shows me album art, time lapsed and time remaining as well as the time of day at top-right of the screen.
I have plenty of playlists, some auto and some not, that include zune pass music and they all work just fine.
I had the old Zune 120GB model and while it had more space I don't know anyone who actually needs 600 hours of music with them at all times, the 16GB has suited me just fine I have a ton of my favorite tracks as well as video/audio podcasts that I take to work with me at all times, it's great.
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I was speaking specifically how it will cycle through picture(s) of a singer/band, with the letters going across the screeen, etc. The Zune player on a Windows Phone will not do that.
How can you make a playlist specifically for ZunePass streaming on the Windows Phone Zune player?
Thanks!
Brian