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24 hour clock and uk style date and splash screen

Hi, i have just upgraded to Windows Mobile 6 the black 2.5 edition.
Whilst I was doing it i had my memory card left out which had applications on it, now when I put it back, the applications are not there..? I copied all data from active sync > explore (except my windows mobile device) and then I copied it back after upgrade. I am not fussed that the programs are gone, it would be good to get them back though, and since the card was not inserted during the upgrade, the application files must still be on the card somewhere taking up space...?
Anyways, I can't seem to get the 24 hour clock on it and also can't change the date to the UK style e.g. 24/04/2007, it is stuck in american style e.g. 04/24/2007. Any answers...?
Is Windows Mobile 5 applications supported by Windows Mobile 6? Can I have links to Windows Mobile 6 downloads please
Also , I do not like the boot screen, I want to put a picture of my wife and son, how do I do that? Sorry I am an intermediate user.

Please read the wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
before you get abused.....
Couple of pointers though, you might want to check your country is actually set to UK, rather than the default US.
When you install Black you wipe out the entire OS, the application files will be on the card, but the shortcuts in the OS that you find in the menu's and the programs directory will not. Search the card to see if there is actually anything on it at all.
You cant actually copy installed Apps with ActiveSync, it doesnt work that way, you can use it to re-install apps.
Most WM5 apps will work with WM6, but some will not and some will have odd behaviour because the programming interface isdiffeent to WM5.
But please, read the Wiki

Sorry, unable to help with the card issue.
But, the 24 hr clock & date is in settings, regional settings & set to english (uk).
The splash screen is explained in Mr Vanx upgrade guide, where it is explained re first & second screens.
Hope this helps & sorry if you have already completed or read the guides

Or, leave settings on US and choose (in Settings, System, Regional Settings):
Time: HH:mm:ss and you're on 24hr clock,
Date: dd-MMM-yy and you're on European date.
And if someone flames you for asking, screw that

Thanks very much. The ony things I need to do now is fix the wifi, it doesn't turn on..?
Also, the start bar sometimes hides....
and about the applications on the card. they are still there under "program files" and can be opened but some of them - registration fails. The shortcuts are not in the menu though...
Also how can I add a running programs shortcut on the bottom like I had on WM5..I can't seem to do it....
Sorry for sounding so dumb...

monz87 said:
Thanks very much. The ony things I need to do now is fix the wifi, it doesn't turn on..?
Also, the start bar sometimes hides....
and about the applications on the card. they are still there under "program files" and can be opened but some of them - registration fails. The shortcuts are not in the menu though...
Also how can I add a running programs shortcut on the bottom like I had on WM5..I can't seem to do it....
Sorry for sounding so dumb...
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Hmmm, there is a known issue with wifi settings getting wiped out, there are a couple of threads about it in Hermes upgrading, Olipro and pof are working on a fix that they say should be out in a few days.
Dont know about the start bar hiding, havent seen that myself, as for the apps, I would say maybe install them again to the same location to put all your shortcuts back, technically you will just be putting the same files on the storage card and any settings that went on the card should still be there.
I cant find a way to add running programs either, go into settings/memory/running programs or use the taskman program. If anyone else has seen a way to add running programs to the softkey setup I would be quite grateful too.
Its not about sounding dumb, you dont - you're just lacking the necessary info, its just if you ask questions that have been answered elsewhere people figure you are just being lazy or ignorant especially if they are the same kinds of questions that people keep on asking that can be answered by doing an advanced search and selecting show posts instead of show threads.
Just keep at it, you will get there in the end.

chrisjasper said:
Hmmm, there is a known issue with wifi settings getting wiped out, there are a couple of threads about it in Hermes upgrading, Olipro and pof are working on a fix that they say should be out in a few days.
Dont know about the start bar hiding, havent seen that myself, as for the apps, I would say maybe install them again to the same location to put all your shortcuts back, technically you will just be putting the same files on the storage card and any settings that went on the card should still be there.
I cant find a way to add running programs either, go into settings/memory/running programs or use the taskman program. If anyone else has seen a way to add running programs to the softkey setup I would be quite grateful too.
Its not about sounding dumb, you dont - you're just lacking the necessary info, its just if you ask questions that have been answered elsewhere people figure you are just being lazy or ignorant especially if they are the same kinds of questions that people keep on asking that can be answered by doing an advanced search and selecting show posts instead of show threads.
Just keep at it, you will get there in the end.
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Thanks. I upgraded my radio rom to 1.41 and my network mucked up...I couldnt even get a signal. Then I went to 1.40 and now my wifi is working and and i get a network. not sure if its as clear as before though...

monz87 said:
Thanks. I upgraded my radio rom to 1.41 and my network mucked up...I couldnt even get a signal. Then I went to 1.40 and now my wifi is working and and i get a network. not sure if its as clear as before though...
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Thats odd because the wifi and radio dont actually have anything to do with each other, radio rom controls GPRS/3G stuff. Oh well, go with it.....

chrisjasper said:
Thats odd because the wifi and radio dont actually have anything to do with each other, radio rom controls GPRS/3G stuff. Oh well, go with it.....
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Really..? That could be why my web pages weren't opening. I've just been on the phone to T-Mobile as it goes and they say that their 3G is down. I'm able to connect to GPRS but loading the web pages it just says opening and nothing opens. They said it should be OK in a few hours...oh well.

monz87 said:
Really..? That could be why my web pages weren't opening. I've just been on the phone to T-Mobile as it goes and they say that their 3G is down. I'm able to connect to GPRS but loading the web pages it just says opening and nothing opens. They said it should be OK in a few hours...oh well.
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You got through to a human at T-Mob before the problem was fixed......?
Now that is unusual.

chrisjasper said:
You got through to a human at T-Mob before the problem was fixed......?
Now that is unusual.
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LOL no that time my network problem was fixed because i had went to Radio 1.40 just web pages werent working. Then they called me back on my work phone to help me solve it anyways...

Lets get a head start on B&B 4.0 release issues

I have been thinking about this for a while so I will go ahead and get it started. We all know that Tom_Codon is currently working on V 4.0, and as always he will thoroughly test it before release. I thought maybe we could, as a community, come to a conclusion on the fixes for the upcoming rom.
We all know the problems such as
1. Dialerpad not working for redial( green button) different dialerpad fixed
2. Flashing issue that was resolved.
3 HTC plugin going to vibrate during appointments- not a rom problem but an issue
4. Weather for "your town"- not a rom problem but an htc server issue.
We need to get together a complete set list,if you will, of known issues so that these bugs can be worked out before the Rom hits "production".
PLEASE, dont turn this into a request thread. Lets make an effort as a community to help Tom, put out the best Rom of his ability.
I have talked with him recently and he feels that the Touchflo is working flawlessly, but this is going to be a completely new build, from a new version of windows 6. So there MUST be some test time
I think as a group we can pitch in and give some targets to look at, via our experiences with 3.7
On another note, many people have donated to Tom, but the truth of the matter is more have not. I understand that times are hard, for some, harder for others, but we should look at it like this, If Tom wasnt doing what he was doing, along with others like him(none have released anything as complex and mature as Toms) werent doing what they are doing, you would already be in the market for another ppc, some, like here in America, having to pay upwards of $550.00 like myself.
Some of us appreciate the hard work of others and are willing to cough up $ without much proding, while others just download and go. I myself am guilty of such actions, I mean I do have and have had a usenet account for about 3 years, and have used bit torrent since it was in command prompt days(bit commet anyone) but I do recognize hard work and a love for what one is doing, so please make Tom feel your appreciation, this guy is having to go way out of his way to do research for us, due to internet issues, so please donate to Tom's work. Drink one less caramel mociado,beer or coke for that matter and send some $.
Back on topic.
Please help by posting any known issues with 3.7 so 4.0 can be tested properly, Thanks.

I agree with 1 to 4 in the previous post, also, the dialer writes text in green, this is very hard to see and suggest changing to white text.
5. Dialer text changed to WHITE for easier reading

Another Issue
First of all Congrats to Tom for making the bes PPC a million times better.
I had some issues, besides the redial button some programs crash my machine, for example yahoo go 2 and others.
Also the machine sometimes restarts itself with programs like tomtom and google.
Thanks for all your hard work!!!!!

5 good point, I am sure that will or has been changed already
yahoo go... what others, lets try to make a thorough list

6. Inclusion of TouchFlo cab
(The dialpad was really a big issue in my friend's phone i upgraded, so had to go back to B&B 3.0)
Thanks for all ur great efforts Tom!

I fully agree with post 1.
The only thing that is not working for me is the camera.
Gpsphoto is not working for me. Gps is not turning on.
And the colors of dailpad. They are now green but difficult to read.
White is much better.
For the rest it runs perfect.
But please Tom take your time.
And guys the rom is for free so donate to Tom. Mobile Telco's have to pay Microsoft for this update. And we get this for free.
I haven't donated as well but i will this week.

There is a workaround for GPS Photo. Just change to main memory as storage. Then restart the camera and off you go Nasty thing is that you have to do this every time you want GPS photo. It's a ROM issue and has nothing to do with Tom

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5 good point, I am sure that will or has been changed already
yahoo go... what others, lets try to make a thorough list
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Hi all,
my only (not so big) problem in B&B 3.7 that I wonder to be solved in the new version is the camera delay problem, when I push the button it takes about 3-4s for the camera to take te photo.
The other issue is pics destination folder. My old ROM saves the photos to \storage card\my docs\my picture, that was very nice, this new camera saves the photos to a specific folder, it's not a big problem, just annoying...
By the way the B&B 3.7 is the best rom what I've ever tried, so Tom, appreciate your work...

Hi!
I don't know if I'm the only one, but when I desactivate the WM5storage apps by clicking on "desactivate", it runs TOMTOM automaticaly!
It can be a bug...
@++
TraXer.

Taking a picture in 3.7 takes about 3 seconds.. Still can't fix that..

Wi-Fi issue
Hi @all,
the B&B 3.7 is the best ROM i ever had. Thanks to Tom.
I've an issue with the Wi-Fi start/stop.
I can start and stop Wi-Fi with the comm Manager but if I start Wi-Fi I could not stop Wi-Fi over the Wi-Fi icon on the Headerbar.
Normaly there is a link if you click on the icon [Turn on Wi-Fi] if its off and [Turn off Wi-Fi] if its on.
I have always [Turn on Wi-Fi]... also if its on and if i click, nothing effects.
I don't know if someone else solve this problem and if its a bug.
Cheers

[email protected],
First of all, i would like to express my eternal gratitude for tom who is doing a great work. People like you makes the community better and better.
I have another issue:
when using de X-Button, the rest of icons of the heather bar doesn't show properly. The signal power of the operator displays only left half and he volume icon doesn't show.

make a contact picture also does not work: not file is saved after shotting

Agree
I agree with you and i would like to donate to tom. But i need account information, i don´t use paypal.
However i have not been abel to use Tom´s 3.7 ROM at all. No problem flashing it but my sound on bouth, my HTC P3300 goes balistic (like if my botton was stock)..
This has happend everytime i tryid this ROM and i tryid it on my too. P3300 and my body´s too..
So i haven´t realy enjoyed the ROM at all.. just tryid it and shiftet to the new WW3.7 Original (which works flawless on my phones)
.... but still i would like to support the great work and research Tom is doing.. Please make it possible by posting som account information so i can transfer a donation to you Tom

i only tried 3.7 for a short time because i had the battery drain problem, and the redialing problem was getting on my nerves.
however, there were 2 problems (or 2 times the same) that i also have in v3.0 (german version):
wlan and gps connections cant be deactivated using the taskbar icon. the "bubble" always says "no connection".
for wlan, i use connection manager to disconnect. that works perfectly. to stop a gprs connection however, i have to switch to flight mode and back...so:
7. (or whatever) would be nice to have a more confortable way of disconnecting gprs than using flight mode...

to stop a gprs connection however, i have to switch to flight mode and back...so:
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I haved the same problem but after looking close all the app (like msn messenger) who use Gprs Data and with com manager you can stop it ^^

More problems, possibly unreported?
I have a couple of issues with 3.7, and I don't think I have read about them anywhere else.
Firstly, this may be a problem with the Comm manager. Sometimes I turn the phone to "off" in Comm. Manager, and then when I click again to turn it "On", nothing happens - the code lock keypad is supposed to show but nothing happens at all and I have to soft reset.
Secondly, after a soft reset, MSN contacts do not appear in the list when you login, and you must chage accounts to see them again
I also had the more common problems with green button and HTC home screen vibrate mode.
Also would it be possible for us to have Windows Update inlcuded in the ROM?
Excellent ROM though by the way! Will be donating very soon!!!
Tristan

morpheustfw said:
I haved the same problem but after looking close all the app (like msn messenger) who use Gprs Data and with com manager you can stop it ^^
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yeah, you are right. i just tested what you said, and indeed: the "Datenverbindung" button in comm manager (i got german version) will eventually light up when i switch to conn manager and a gprs connection is active. but it takes something between 3 and 10 seconds for that button to light up. that's why i never saw it.
but waiting for the button to light up then clicking it will indeed cancel the gprs connection. i am cool with that. thx for the hint.

Actually this started as a B&B 4.0 issues thread...
but i really would like to thank the person who open it because i had the opportunity to see all the bugs of previous versions in one place....
Thanks again...
Many thanks to Tom as well for his effort..
Looking forward for v 4.0

I believe we are on the right track, but I feel some of theres issues are problems do to the base OS..I will later update my most and include a pool to see where we stand as far as how may people are experiening these situation.

Themes wont change in WM6

Hi Guys,
I recently upgraded to the HTC Official WM6 ROM (3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10) and I'm having some small problems...
1) I cant change to a different theme anymore, Yesterday I changed it to the standard windows theme and since then it ignores my changes completely.
2) Streaming Media doesnt seem to work... I've tesetd it on YouTube with little to no success, occasionally I get a small black box so it looks like its about to start but always times out.
3) it wont connect to windows updates anymore (I know there isnt any there yet but it will be nice to know that the option will be available to me.
4) I can no longer remove anything from my memory card, it now tells me there is a sharing violation even though the program has been closed.
Sorry guys but I cant be the only one with these problems, if anyone can help that would be fantastic.
Thanks
Terryd1980

Hello,
For sharing violation when trying to delete, soft reset and then try delete again.
It worked for me so far. If file still shows up after deleting, use MemMaid to remove. Hope this will help.

G maps?

Hey guys. Having a problem. My location on Google maps keeps saying my device doesnt support this. I have tha alltel vogue, and it works on my buddys. Any suggestions?

TweakMan said:
Hey guys. Having a problem. My location on Google maps keeps saying my device doesnt support this. I have tha alltel vogue, and it works on my buddys. Any suggestions?
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you need the gps fix.
check Here or Here

TweakMan said:
Hey guys. Having a problem. My location on Google maps keeps saying my device doesnt support this. I have tha alltel vogue, and it works on my buddys. Any suggestions?
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My Location doesn't work with the PDA phones, you have to select the Use GPS option, not My Location.
Did you do the ROM update and install the drivers?

Yes,,,, I Think?
Like I said, I have an Alltel version of the Vogue. I did the Rev A , upgrade thats on the Htc website. I don't really know what you mean by installing the drivers though? I tried the GPS fix on the first page , but had no luck. I followed the directions perfectly but when I tried google maps then, it said my device doesn't support it or something of that nature..... If you have any Ideas , I would really appreciate it.
Also, Is there a good rom you would suggest for me to try on here. Wm6.1. I want the wm6.1 rom, and have asked for help with this for a while now with no answer. I am tired of having to install everything one by one after a Hard reset . Is there a way to add a couple of my favorite programs to one of these roms on here, and if so or if not, what is a good rom, without the radio, that has no bugs. Thanks guys.

TweakMan said:
Like I said, I have an Alltel version of the Vogue. I did the Rev A , upgrade thats on the Htc website. I don't really know what you mean by installing the drivers though? I tried the GPS fix on the first page , but had no luck. I followed the directions perfectly but when I tried google maps then, it said my device doesn't support it or something of that nature..... If you have any Ideas , I would really appreciate it.
Also, Is there a good rom you would suggest for me to try on here. Wm6.1. I want the wm6.1 rom, and have asked for help with this for a while now with no answer. I am tired of having to install everything one by one after a Hard reset . Is there a way to add a couple of my favorite programs to one of these roms on here, and if so or if not, what is a good rom, without the radio, that has no bugs. Thanks guys.
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ok so the "my location" feature (i am pretty sure) just uses cell towers to triangulate your current pos. so dont try and click that because it is not supported for a lot of HTC phones right now. hit the menu key and check "use gps". see how that works out for you. you may have to give it anywhere up to about 8 min to get a lock at times :S. after it has a lock, you can select "My Location" and it will then simply make sure that the screen always has you (your location, the little blue dot) in the center of the screen.
if that still doesnt work (which it probably will), you can try downloading programs like quickgps, and gpskickstart, and getting other gps drivers. i would just recommend googling these terms with "ppcgeeks" or "xda" on the end.
good luck!

My Location for Sense UI is not working?

I've flashed a few different ROMs and noticed the My Location can never update to my real location. Is it because it's not supposed to work in the US?

i am having the same problem in atlanta. its never updating.

Mine was working in atlanta today, what ROM are you using? I currently have EnergyROM Leo Manilla 2.5

You need to have google maps installed, and have it zoomed in on your location. It works fine for me in Sacramento, California. It still doesn't update very frequently for weather though, so I added Sacramento to the weather tab and changed the home clock to use that instead of my current location.
And for future reference, threads like these should ideally be posted in the Rhodium Themes, Applications, and Software forum, as this doesn't have to do with ROM development, but rather with software.

im on Fusion V5.2 Sense 2.1 ATT

figured it out
there's a work around for this, what you do is you go and set your location by adding a city, then make sure it's the selected one, and that will be your default location...and it should update..

mine does not find it in big city....but it does in small town where its roaming and G connection! but it sometimes works with wifi...i have figured that part out yet!

I had problems as well Locking on into my location. I'm using a AT&T Tilt 2 but i decided to try the latest radio 4.49.25.17 and after that it locked instantly!!

As post #4 mentioned, try loading up google maps and go to your location. At first it didn't work for me either, but after using google maps, started working properly.
When you first run google maps, it asks you for permission to use the my location service. My guess is that you need to agree to that first before it'll work.

vudu said:
As post #4 mentioned, try loading up google maps and go to your location. At first it didn't work for me either, but after using google maps, started working properly.
When you first run google maps, it asks you for permission to use the my location service. My guess is that you need to agree to that first before it'll work.
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I always cook google maps in my ROM. But I have had it working without any google maps one time. Ofcourse radio does help I think. But I do have 4.49.25.17, and it did get better, but didnt do it all the time!

I can not get mine to work with my Tilt 2 and have tried everything mentioned above..
I have had the same problems with most of the Diamond Roms also with that same feature.
The only Rom that it has worked is on my Diamond running 6.1 SUN Y MANILA 2.5. Have no clue to why it works with that specific Rom and not with others.

Pumpiron579 said:
I can not get mine to work with my Tilt 2 and have tried everything mentioned above..
I have had the same problems with most of the Diamond Roms also with that same feature.
The only Rom that it has worked is on my Diamond running 6.1 SUN Y MANILA 2.5. Have no clue to why it works with that specific Rom and not with others.
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Have you tried with wifi? Mine sometimes work with Wifi.

ai6908 said:
Have you tried with wifi? Mine sometimes work with Wifi.
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I get that connection error when I attempt to connect using WiFi. But all the other cities get updated.

SOLVED
This worked for me...
Home page.
Select alarm (just above where is says "calendar").
Select the tab on the left "World Clock"
Set your location to your home town (this assumes you have already added it to the "weather")
It should now work.

@tsadek
That worked for me also using a TD2, Thanks

That's not fixing the problem. it's just using the city you manually entered. it's not fixing the My Location bug.

ok, perhaps "solved" was a bit ambitious.
more of a "work around" then.

tsadek said:
This worked for me...
Home page.
Select alarm (just above where is says "calendar").
Select the tab on the left "World Clock"
Set your location to your home town (this assumes you have already added it to the "weather")
It should now work.
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Thanks
It worked for me!

Guys, that hasn't solved anything. You are just selecting your city directly and asking to have that information shown on your Home Screen. My Location on the other hand is more useful to people who travel a lot. It's supposed to lock in on whatever city you are in and display the appropriate information as per.
Hope we can have this sorted out soo.
So far the only suggestion that seems credible is to change the Radio. I'm going to try that and see if it works.
BTW, does anybody know how it zeroes in on your location (what city you are in)? Does it use GPS to do that?
I can think of only 2 ways as to how this works.
1) It get the coordinates via GPS and then sends it out to Google / Accuweather and get the appropriate city name and weather stats.
2) Figures out where you are based on your IP address.

judicious said:
I've flashed a few different ROMs and noticed the My Location can never update to my real location. Is it because it's not supposed to work in the US?
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Well duh its not working! The new 'my location' feature in the latest versions of Manila are designed to work with the newest Radios.
Flash either the radio from the:
4.49.25.05 from the TMO UK WinMo6.5 ROM
or
4.49.25.17 from the Worldwide HTC WinMo 6.5 ROM
For all Rhodium Radio info look here
You will be safe flashing either of these radios. It works just like flashing a ROM.
There we go, 'my location' problem fixed.