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Okay, I've been using WMP as my media player instead of TCPMP lately, because TCPMP does not support AVRCP. I'm running a set of Motorola Stereo Bluetooth headsets, and I need to be able to pause, skip, all of that, with the headset.
I've been doing some searching, but haven't found a consensus on what the best program is for media these days, that supports AVRCP. I was trying "Core Player", but the trial has run out and I never got to really give it a go (installed it right after the rom flash, but never used it until there was like 1 day left on the trial).
Any recommendations? Preferably FREE.
I guess I should have noted why I want to move on.
1. WMP seems slow as hell.
2. WMP does NOT remember the position of my media. I have to go re add it all, and if I've got an 8 hour Mix MP3, it'll take an hour to get where I was previously.
3. I have to close WMP from celetask or task manager.
REDZMAN said:
I guess I should have noted why I want to move on.
1. WMP seems slow as hell.
2. WMP does NOT remember the position of my media. I have to go re add it all, and if I've got an 8 hour Mix MP3, it'll take an hour to get where I was previously.
3. I have to close WMP from celetask or task manager.
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8 hour mix mp3!?!?!?! Why not just chop it up yourself with an audio editing program?
I also have the motorola s9 rockr for working out; I also use WMP. I've found that overclocking the device to about 228mhz speeds it up a little.
The CorePlayer supports AVCRP and it's pretty nice....
^^^
Is it free though? I thought that was a paid for program?
How well does the AVRCP work? Does it work right out of the "box" or does it need extensive hacking?
crimsonblake said:
8 hour mix mp3!?!?!?! Why not just chop it up yourself with an audio editing program?
I also have the motorola s9 rockr for working out; I also use WMP. I've found that overclocking the device to about 228mhz speeds it up a little.
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Even doing that, I've still got hundreds and hundreds of 2 to 4 hour mix MP3's, and I want something that will remember it's place when I close the program, like TCPMP. Armin Van Buren A State of Trance FTW!
LOL
I take all my notes on my Dash at school, so I always close WMP because its' a bit of a memory hog.
Coreplayer is based on TCPMP. Do a google search and you'll find a copy...
I'm trying to. No luck yet.
Anyone else got a suggestion?
I read many threads in the forum regarding video on the HD and after hours spent trailing through a post which is now locked I settled on SUPER encoding to flash FLV files... only problem is if I feed it a 1.4gb H264 file (which the HD cant play) it ends up at 2.6Gb I still run the stock SD card 8Gb.
Am I missing a setting? I really wanna sort the video out on my HD! but would like the movies to stay similar size to the original rip....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
works good
pureheart said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
works good
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Yep treid that one too... the files always end up waaaaay bigger than the orginal... I tried a 4Gb BRrip with that and it came out almost the size of the flash card....
Then you selected the wrong bitrate.
Assuming your movie is 90 minutes long, then using the "HD" setting bitrate of 750kbit/s your movie will be (750*60*90)/8/1024 = 494 MB.
What you are stating is not possible, unless your movie is 10 hours long or you manually entered an insanely high bitrate, such as 7500kbit/s, which is completely useless and which the Touch HD can not handle anyway.
The tool is coded for simplicity. If you don't understand what anything does, then you just add the files, select the output dir and press "start". Experimenting around by setting random options which you do not fully understand obviously will result in spectacular failure most of the time. So I recommend you to try it again. If it doesn't work, then let me know and I will fix it.
All this said, if you rather not use my GUI, then you can get an acceptable result with SUPER by using iPhone profile. The quality will be worse, seeking might be broken and it might slow down sometimes, but other than that, it should work.
I used a Blue Ray rip.... 4.5Gig..... it ended up at almost 6Gig....
I used the HD GUI you made because it was so easy.... just remoting into my server to see how the next one I'm trying is getting on.....
Have you tried using WinFF ~ http://winff.org/html/
I used to use SUPER but changed to WinFF because:-
1. It is quicker.
2. File sizes are smaller.
3. It is very easy to use.
4. It supports a number of devices including Mobile Phones, iPod etc.
Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?
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Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?
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What settings on WinFF did you use to encode the video?
Ahhh... not got round to using that one yet... I was using the HD GUI made by projection, 4.5gb Blue ray rip source, 800x480 output.
Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...
Geeba said:
Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...
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If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player
Svegetto said:
If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player
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I had no idea there was one? Is it installed from the factory? I cant seem to find it?
atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...
another option to watch Movies "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)"
You can install "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)" and play those .avi movies (DivX, Xvid, etc) without converting. You can download here: http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
It works fine for me... I'm using 8Gb microSD...
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atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...
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Where do I find the HTC player?
I've just tried DivX player... its not really as good as Core on mine for some reason... ?
Would really appreciate a pointer on GPU accelerated player
I've treid M$ media player... wont play it... core player not enough grunt and the HTC player people speak of... I cant find? searched all of my HD programs..
Dude, just skim along the TF3D menu to Photos and Videos.
If your video's in the default album it will appear as a thumbnail here if it isn't just use the Album button to browse to it.
Basically the HTC player they're on about i launched when you click on a thumbnail in the TF3D Photo's and Video's screen (or browse to an album location).
Yup - it was there all the time
Thanks mate... I understand now...
I guess MP4 isnt supported.... my movies arent there...
I tried putting a small video clip on my memory card. When I open it it plays like it's in slow motion, and it's really choppy. The audio for the clip plays in normal speed.
so a few questions...
Is there a best format of video files for my excalibur?
Is there mabey a player better than windows media player?
I hacked my psp a few years back. I was able to download full movies and watch them on it. I may be asking too much... but I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with my phone.
when I'm at work with my phone in my hand the ol' boss doesn't mind. Of course when I'm hanging on to a game system.... the **** hit's the fan!
Here you are a free bit of software that can recode videos http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html download link @ bottom there is lot's of speal...
I use A-One FLV to AVI but it's not free, there is alot of software that can do it.
I recomended SUPER as i know lots of peeps use it, so set the resolution 320x240 keep bitrate down on video larger it is larger output file, audio can be set to mono and again about 64kbit/s and still be fine, .mp4 is a good quality for Mobile video or for even more compression .3gp
Re: Player TCPMP "to which is free" or CorePlayer "the pay version"
I've tried downloading TCPMP. When I try installing it I get a message that the install package isn't designed for my device.
this is where I'm downloading it from.
http://tcpmp.en.softonic.com/pocketpc/download#pathbar
Is there a different version that I need to use?
oilspot said:
I've tried downloading TCPMP. When I try installing it I get a message that the install package isn't designed for my device.
this is where I'm downloading it from.
http://tcpmp.en.softonic.com/pocketpc/download#pathbar
Is there a different version that I need to use?
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Do a search on this forum know that one with all codecs was posted.
stylez said:
Do a search on this forum know that one with all codecs was posted.
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that did it... and here's where I found my answer.
thanks again!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468853&highlight=tcpmp+download
tried playing a small avi. player says I need to mess with the settings. I'll see If I can get it figured out.
oilspot said:
that did it... and here's where I found my answer.
thanks again!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468853&highlight=tcpmp+download
tried playing a small avi. player says I need to mess with the settings. I'll see If I can get it figured out.
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All you have to do is enable all file formats on your options
Related question... How do I watch the phone-recorded videos on my PC after I pull them over via ActiveSync? I tried converting them with Handbreak but they are not recognized as a compatible format.
dewey1973 said:
Related question... How do I watch the phone-recorded videos on my PC after I pull them over via ActiveSync? I tried converting them with Handbreak but they are not recognized as a compatible format.
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Try VLC Media Player you will want codecs CCCP is XP & Vista compatable "if you have any other codec packs installed then do not install"
well i actually wanted to start a mobile movie thread
like..i will be encodeing movies for mobiles..which will play without a hitch...and patches...
and uploading them on rapidshare or megaupload..
sooo what say??
what happens if you run out of battery in the middle of a movie, can you fastforward it afterwards and in an "easy" way? If it's possible, it depends on the video format, video player or both?
I am trying to find a good player for .avi, .mpeg4, etc. for my TP2. I used to use TCPMP but when I installed it on my TP2 it errors out at launch. Any ideas? Is there a newer version of TCPMP that is compatible?
Thanks!
The WMP supports avi and mp4. And it works!
Hmm, it does not work for me. That is strange.
dcam1075 said:
I used to use TCPMP but when I installed it on my TP2 it errors out at launch. Any ideas? Is there a newer version of TCPMP that is compatible?
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Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3275845&postcount=172
Once installed you need to go into Options/Settings... and choose the DirectDraw page, then tick the box that says "Use blitting instead of overlay".
Try Core Player. It is amazing... it is also running via network (wifi)
the best video player is coreplayer
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the best video player is coreplayer
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The impression I get from reading these fora is that CorePlayer may be the best but that it's still not actually particularly good, as it is unable to benefit from any of the hardware acceleration provided by the Qualcomm chipset - this being HTC's fault for providing dodgy or non-existent drivers. It seems like this is a major weakness of the TP2.
Actually, from what I remember, it's not HTC's fault per se, so it's not really fair to blame HTC. The thing is that Qualcomm sold their chipsets but different price ranges for the same chip. The difference being that if one paid more then they'd get the drivers necessary to take advantage of other features. Basically one has to pay for the drivers. So HTC's player includes hardware acceleration, but just because it seems they have gotten the drivers for that feature doesn't mean that they can pass the drivers on to software makers (just like you can't legally pass your copy of a game on to a friend). But neither can we say it's Qualcomm's fault as it was their pricing plan. I think somewhere it was stated that it was a misunderstanding at some point. But yeah, that's the gist, and why if Coreplayer is to work they have to reverse engineer the drivers or deal with Qualcomm directly.
What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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Actually, from what I remember, it's not HTC's fault per se, so it's not really fair to blame HTC. The thing is that Qualcomm sold their chipsets but different price ranges for the same chip. The difference being that if one paid more then they'd get the drivers necessary to take advantage of other features. Basically one has to pay for the drivers. So HTC's player includes hardware acceleration, but just because it seems they have gotten the drivers for that feature doesn't mean that they can pass the drivers on to software makers (just like you can't legally pass your copy of a game on to a friend). But neither can we say it's Qualcomm's fault as it was their pricing plan. I think somewhere it was stated that it was a misunderstanding at some point. But yeah, that's the gist, and why if Coreplayer is to work they have to reverse engineer the drivers or deal with Qualcomm directly.
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Let me get this straight... Your saying it's not HTC's fault because you think they didn't know they were buying chipsets without drivers from Qualcomm. To me it sounds like they cheaped out and screwed consumers.
I highly doubt its a misunderstanding and I'm not afraid to place blame because I'm more than certain HTC knew what they were doing otherwise they wouldn't keep ordering more of the same chipset to produce new phones.
If this were really the case I would assume we would see slightly different hardware or drivers included with CDMA versions since they would have had time to figure this out since everyone else already has.
Gave up Core Player for the Touch phones. It doesn't play movies at all well. Just use the built-in WMP or the HTC album player.
Download the Encoder GUI and just re-encode your movies. Let it run during your bedtime. Easy!
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What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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For starters, it doesn't play xvid.
Shasarak said:
For starters, it doesn't play xvid.
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Re-encode it using the Encoder GUI. Why fight it?
Don't think there any mobile phones that can play xvid videos at 800x480 smoothly. Even the latest i8000 only supports video playback at up to 720x480.
Even if you get an iPhone, you will still need to convert it to in order for you to watch it.
My solution, either re-encode it, or play a lower resolution xvid (i think i tried it once at 622x288, can't remember and it played ok in core player).
I'd go with Coreplayer too as it has the widest range of codecs available BUT if the bitrate of your clip is too high your phone won't like it whatever player you use (but you probably knew that anyway...)
Hi Everyone I have found that GOM Encoder does an outstanding job of converting any movie to a playable format for the Rhodium
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Hi Everyone I have found that GOM Encoder does an outstanding job of converting any movie to a playable format for the Rhodium
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Hey, good find! Will give it a try for sure! Cheers!
Core player has some nice features, but benchmarking h264 playback it was somewhat lacking compaired to windows media player mobile....
95% of the time u will want to/have to re-encode to make it smaller or lower the bitrate to something it can play, so codec support shoudnt be a choosing factor...
I get WMPM playing smooth with H264(1300~ bitrate) and ACC audio(stereo at 128 varieable bitrate) at 800x416. which is dame nice quality on the small screen
I'll start a thread on encoding with MeGUI to get you all started
But I can't get full screen on WMP
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What's wrong with the built-in free WMP? It plays 640x480 MP4 (H.264) videos smoothly.
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Do you know what I'm doing wrong? After not being able to use WMP on my Universal (WM5) because it could not do full screen - I load a movie into WMP on my shiny new Touch Pro 2 and 'full screen' isn't - it has a dirty great big border round it! The video is smaller then the screen but WMP is set to stretch to screen. What gives??
John
Shasarak said:
Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3275845&postcount=172
Once installed you need to go into Options/Settings... and choose the DirectDraw page, then tick the box that says "Use blitting instead of overlay".
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wow that done the trick for me, awesome playback imo
I tried the Touch HD encoder and used the advised settings in the thread.
Playback is smooth in HTC Album, but the quality seemed fuzzier than my normal method.
So back I go to:
Coreplayer
Videos encoded using PocketDivXEncoder with the following settings:
HDTV preset
Video quality: 70
Audio quality: maximum
Resize the video so that the video width is 400 pixels, maintaining the aspect ratio.
hi,
i'm looking for an awesome media (video) player for my phone.
i'm looking for a good video player that can play a lot of different file formats.
avi, mpg, mpeg, mp4, wmv, etc.etc.
on my laptop i use VLC, and i really love it.
but i can't find a mobile version of VLC.
anybody has a clue for an awesome videoplayer for my phone?
The latest version of TCPMP plays a whole slew of formats. If you want a media player with alot of functionality, Kinoma Player (shareware) has many different functions. Not sure all the formats it plays.
There's Core Player, a branch of TCPMP that is a pretty smooth video player as well. Finally, DivX has an app for WinMo as well, so you could give that a try.
tcpmp and core player are the best on my opinion
i've looked up tcpmp on the web, and found a page about it on http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-tcpmp-v0-72rc1.html but it doesn't seem to be the right one.
when i instal the cab, the program says on startup "unexpected program error, send crash.txt to the developers......".
so it doesn't run on my pocket pc.
i tought i found the tcpmp website with http://coreplayer.com/ but it costs me 24 bucks.
the free version is very difficult to find.
any ideas?
i found yet another release on this forum.
that one seems to be working a bit....
but the movie quality sucks big time.
the sound is on and off all the time.
the picture is shocking...
it's looks like the phone has to work really hard to let me see half a second each time.
it's like:
the audio........... is not .......... like it's ............. supposed........... to be..............
(and the video is the same).
am i doing sometyhing wrong?
I had to look really hard also for a 6.1 TCPMP. Then on this site there seem to be quite a few different ones. I got mine at http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/1059593835-post107.html it says it is version 4.0.3. But it is open source so people do whatever they want with it. Mine is pretty ugly to look at, but it has always worked (except for the initial crashing - see below). Would like a nicer looking version.
Which one did you download?
This fixed my crashing "If you are having issues with no video or the crashing issue on the HTC HD2 this may help you, You will need to go into the Video settings and change the Direct Draw --> GDI and it should resolve the issue you were having."
i don't remember which one i downloaded... wnloaded about 5 of them from different sites.
i installed all of them (one at a time) to see which one worked best.
the one i've got is worked the best way... but like i said it's shocky... to say the least.
i'll try the one you just send me.
i don't care for looks, i just care for video quality.
i can't believe that a simple viedeoplayer can be so difficult to find on windows mobile.
isn't the whole idea of mobile windows, the idea that you have a mobile version of windows?
and isn't windows also (largely) used for different kinds of media? e.g. video, music etc...
windows media player is the best...
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I had to look really hard also for a 6.1 TCPMP. Then on this site there seem to be quite a few different ones. I got mine at http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/1059593835-post107.html it says it is version 4.0.3. But it is open source so people do whatever they want with it. Mine is pretty ugly to look at, but it has always worked (except for the initial crashing - see below). Would like a nicer looking version.
Which one did you download?
This fixed my crashing "If you are having issues with no video or the crashing issue on the HTC HD2 this may help you, You will need to go into the Video settings and change the Direct Draw --> GDI and it should resolve the issue you were having."
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Brenda/Vinnie...I don't know if the version at the link below is the one you're using, but check it out and see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5657963&postcount=1
Brenda, I'll still give you a hand getting prepped for the upgrade if you need, I just haven't had much time today to sit down and work on that
TBH I find it alot easier just converting movies and using the HTC player. The Videora TP2 converter does its job perfectly and I like having the movies in the HTC album. Easy access, smooth playback.
http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/htc-touch-pro2/
mhurg said:
TBH I find it alot easier just converting movies and using the HTC player. The Videora TP2 converter does its job perfectly and I like having the movies in the HTC album. Easy access, smooth playback.
http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/htc-touch-pro2/
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I have T-Mobile HTC TP2. Where is the HTC Player? I have a music player in Sense but have not seen a video player.
Thanks for the link. looks a lot better than mine current tcpmp player. I will install.
THanks for the offer to help me upgrade. Any advice will be appreciated.
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I have T-Mobile HTC TP2. Where is the HTC Player? I have a music player in Sense but have not seen a video player.
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the video player is only pops up when you play a video file on the touch pro2...there isn't an icon, tab, or anything like that...
i can vouch that videora is an outstanding programing for converting video for use on the touch pro2...i have the metal gear solid 1,2 & 3 cut scenes on my device...!!!
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Try the total media player it runs good
http://www.krenisiswinmobilegamesap...ck-here-for-latest-apps-updated-dail-t79.html
There you can download total media player , facebook, and other apps.
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Brenda/Vinnie...I don't know if the version at the link below is the one you're using, but check it out and see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5657963&postcount=1
Brenda, I'll still give you a hand getting prepped for the upgrade if you need, I just haven't had much time today to sit down and work on that
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looks pretty good... but the thing i'm looking for i versatility (i probably wrote it wrong...).
it has to be able to play avi, mpg, mpeg, wmv, mp4 and a lot more if possible.
is this player able to do that?
looks are not important, performance is!
till thus far, tcpmp isn't good enough (it.... plays..... movies...... like..... this...... ).
zarpy said:
Try the total media player it runs good
http://www.krenisiswinmobilegamesap...ck-here-for-latest-apps-updated-dail-t79.html
There you can download total media player , facebook, and other apps.
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it's just the core player with a skin to me.
avi files work good, but an avi file is awefull.....
i'm sorry, but my test movies are just awefull in this player.
da9th_one said:
the video player is only pops up when you play a video file on the touch pro2...there isn't an icon, tab, or anything like that...
i can vouch that videora is an outstanding programing for converting video for use on the touch pro2...i have the metal gear solid 1,2 & 3 cut scenes on my device...!!!
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How do you play a video file so the HTC play can pop up? Do you click the video file from explorer, RESCO or Total Commander type software? I do not understand.
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supervinnie40 said:
it's just the core player with a skin to me.
avi files work good, but an avi file is awefull.....
i'm sorry, but my test movies are just awefull in this player.
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What movies are you trying to play , I dont think you ripped them right or if you got it from some websites , sometimes the copy isnt good. Dont just blame the media player.
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How do you play a video file so the HTC play can pop up? Do you click the video file from explorer, RESCO or Total Commander type software? I do not understand.
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You can access them from the HTC album tab just like your photos. That, or tap them from explorer.
EDIT: Granted they are in the MPEG-4 format you get from, for example, the Videora converter I linked.
zarpy said:
What movies are you trying to play , I dont think you ripped them right or if you got it from some websites , sometimes the copy isnt good. Dont just blame the media player.
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i'm not to sure how good the quality of the file is.
all i know is, it's a 700 mb avi file that plays beautifully on my old laptop with VLC running on win xp.
now i'm trying to play that same file on the video player you linked, but the quality is awefull.
the audio stops and starts playing every few seconds, and the video just 1 frame a second (and every now and then, it skips a few frames to catch up with the audio).
i personally just think that nobody bothered to make a descent video player for win mobile. OR (and please forgive me for saying this), the phone simply sucks totally (mostly because it has win mobile on it....).