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The GPS API gateway in I-Mate latest ROM (1.13.53 WWE) seems be missing.
If you search in JasJars help under the term GPS, you will be directed to [settings/system/GPS/etc.) but the latest JJ ROM does not seem to have it there, unless I'm missing something.
As result, I can pair a BT GPS, outbound it to P4, inbound to P8, but these ports can not be detectable by a GPS software who does not recognize these virtual ports.
Any advice ?
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Saar
Registry Editor
In HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
The add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
Soft reset
You will find the GPS icon in Settings/Connections
GPS Applet back from the dark
Thank you tekflow.
Works, now I'll see if Destinator works as well...
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Saar
Something looks wrong with the BT GPS connection on the IMate JJ, latest ROM.
- After revealed the hidden GPS applet, thx. to Tekflow !! (why hide it, maybe cause it doesn't work ?)
- Paired 2 different BT GPS devices (RT RBT1000/GS BT-338) to JJ
- Chosen as Outbound Port - Com 4/Inbound Port Com 8 (not that otherwise possible)
- On GPS Applet set common virtual GPS port to Com 9
- Nav S/W (tried 2 different) actually DOES NOT recognize either BT GPS
On the IPaq 27xx, with a Beta WM5 and Widcom excellent and user friendly BT stack, all works like a charm..
Or maybe I am doing something wrong.
Pls help..
Thx.,
Saar
Hi Saar,
I read about this quite a lot looking to find a solution for the problem. It looks like the Destinator cannot see the required COM port in the list. Even when activating the GPS API with the registry it doesn't help.
For destinator there is a solution, for NavNGo I couldn't find one so if you know something I'll be happy to hear.
What you need to do is to open the file destinator.ini with HEX editor and manually change the COM port to the one you need (same one you created when you paired the device I guess it is 8)
and then it will work.
You can find further info here:
http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7600&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10
Is DestinatorPN looking fine on your device ? When I tried the menu was all messed up, maybe because of the VGA ?
I could only work with ver 3.0.75
by the way, I wonder why you don't post a question in pocketpcfreak you prefer writing in english more than your own language?
Sagi
Just been playing with this myself, connected my BT receiver to COM:8 and share this using COM:0, TomTom V5 sees both ports but only manages to talk to the GPS receiver on the physical port ie COM:8 not the virtual port COM:0.
Also can anyone explain why most of the COM port are unavailable when pairing BT devices.
And whats QCT Data Interface & RIL Port ? ?
Thanks
Destnator PN and WM5
Hi Sagi,
Thx. a bunch. Tried it to the letter with DPN..had a moment of hope, but it was a short one. Unfortunately.
I'm hanging out here, as I doubt if anybody could answer it on the local forums...you see... I'm usually the Q/A master..so if I don't know...well, you see my point...
Anyway, the problem with the "spread" menus has been fixed.. Destinator PN "X" menus look smooth on the JJ (it's a beta of the next version to come soon). I have inside sources..
However I've used a large part of my box of tricks to make DPN work on WM5, with MS GPS API, and BT Stack, but nada...:-(
Of course we could dig deeper into this, but I assumed somebody may already'd have a clue. That's why we're here for, no ?
Again, thank you,
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Saar
No problems.
In the mean time you can use 3.0.75 it works fine with the tricks mentioned above.
When you have a perfect solution I'll be the first to try it. I like "Nehama" much better than TT5.
If you need another beta tester for the new ver on the JJ just let me know
Sagi
Thx. again.
In fact hex editing the ini fili causes the software to behave just as in your mail..... less actually connecting the GPS. I guess it's a starting point, I'll pass the info to our RD.
Regds.,
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Saar
im having the same problem
Hi Saar!
im having the same problem with Jasjar + navNgo using BT-338
for some reason the program cannot find the gps .
i tried contacting the guys at GPS&more to get support but still no luck.
Maybe you got more luck than me and can help me?
I've just tested with PocketStreets 2005 and that works allright with Jasjar and Globalsat BT-338 after unhiding the GPS in the controlpanel. I set the com port to 8.
Hoooowever... I have serious problems with getting the correct coordinates when using the wm5 gpsapi.dll (gpssample in wm5 sdk). The same sample works 100% with a wm5 qtek 2020 and wm5 qtek 9090.
Anyone noticed anything similar? Or know of a gps app that uses wm5 gpsapi?
/Cheers
JasJar GPS API
David K:
No solution yet, tried also with RBT1000 BT GPS. Outbound Port: Com4, GPS Program Port: Com 9. Same behaviour.
To further focus on the problem, we've uninstalled Destinator and installed a straightforward GPS monitoring App. (Vito Navigator 2). Auto scanning detects Port 9, but does not detect a GPS signal on this port, either from GS-BT338 or RT RBT1000. This excludes the possibility of a problem with D or NG apps.
This also seems to be a hint for a ROM/Hardware problem. I hope it ain't. We're also investigating with HW manufacturer. I'll update if resolved.
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Saar
This is very similar to TomTom, it can see the GPS COM port, but no data is received....
Maybe this is the eason why its been disabled ?
What I don't understand. seems as some JasJars do GPS OK while some other don't..
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Saar
TOMTOM
Actually I use TOMTOM now (5.1)
The software can see all COM ports and it works great with my BT GPS set to COM8 (it does not need the GPS API at all and I can disable it)
Version 5 had same problems as D or NNG and couldn't see the port. the new BT GPS cab file that came with new version solved this problem.
I still believe that it is a D and NNG software issue that can be fixed
I'll be happy to hear any updated from the HW manufacturer when you have them.
SaarAvigour;
Do you have access to an EMTAC BTGPS? I have this working.
You'll need to know the paring key to get this working for the Bluetooth GPS.
I believe you'll only need to setup an Outgoing COM port, I used 8
Microsoft Pocket Streets can be set to COM 8 and it should work.
Only after the GPS has a fix will the second port work, I set this up to COM 6 Pocket Streets can work with either COM 8 or COM 6.
Note that I had to delete the Incoming port I setup to get this to work.
Hope this helps some.
1) Start (menu) | Settings | System (tab) | Bluetooth (icon) |
2) Check Turn on Bluetooth | on Mode Tab
3 Tap Devices (tab)
4 Tap New Partnership...
5 Tap name of found Bluetooth GPS device to select, then next
6 Enter 0000 as the passkey (four zeros) for the Belkin F8T051, 0183 for the EMTAC | tap next
7 You can rename the device on this screen only | Check Serial port | Tap Finish
8 Tap COM Ports
9 Tap New Outgoing Port
10 Select Bluetooth GPS from List of Devices | Tap Next
11 Select COM Port, try 0, 5, 6, or 8 | Tap Finish
Thx. Dah54,
Been abroad, seen your posting only now. I have a GlobalSat BT 308, but the principle is simillar. I got it all working with Destinator.
thx.,
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Saar
Destinator on JASJAR
Hi Saar,
Since lots of people are trying to get it work, and tried to help you, it will be nice of you tel explain how you got it work for all other users who are still struggling ??
gps
By all means, thought I did...sorry
Pair your GPS
Start/Settings/Connections/BT
Set GPS Serial Outbound Port to Com 8 (Com 4 possible, but was not detected by some specifically tested SatNav apps.)
Unhide your GPS Control Panel (still a mistery why some OEMs decided to hide it, and others not to)
Use a Registry Editor
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/ControlPanel/GPS Settings
Unhide the GPS Control Panel by modifying from (1) to (0)
Confirm by exiting and saving (OK button)
Your GPS Control panel will feature now, in its all grace, in Settings/System
There's another modification suggested,that will put the pannel under Settings/connections, but why change the original setup
Set your GPS Virtual Port
Start/Settings/System/GPS
Leave Hardware as ("None")
Set Programs to Com 8
Save and Exit (OK)
Soft Reset
Probably a reason to lots of failures. Suspectedly, the GPS control panel makes changes to registry. No SR, and changes are non active.
Works for me with various SatNav apps. Here, case closed....
Saar
Hi y'all,
i have a BT GPS receiver that i used with my Qtek 2020 (before this was stolen... ).
Now i have a XDA Exec from O2, but i am not able to set the receiver!
Anyone has any tip for me?
Thanks a lot...
...no one can help me out...??? Please...
Check out this guide and follow from after installing tomtom and you should get BT GPS working with exec, I did!!!
ps search term used was 'tomtom 5.1 guide'
hope this helps!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386
Hello,
first the bad news: not every bt-reciever is working...
but you should try this way:
Connection-Manager
Enable BT
Setting (Connection-Manager) BT-Settings
Tab devices and ad new partnership (be sure, BT-Reciever is on)
Pair it with your Universal (pin is usuall 0000)
Tap Com-Ports: new outgoing Port (your BT-Reciever) set to com 4
Tap Com-Ports: new incomming port (your BT-Reciever) set to com 8
Now it should work!
Thanks for the tipo...now i don't have my GPS receiver with me...but tomorrow i will give it a try.
The only thing that i find strange is: when i try to set the outgoing port i find my BT receiver in a box, but when i try to set the incoming port i dont' find it anywhere.
Something wrong?
Oh...and also...i use the software "GPS View" for the connection with the BT receiver...which port should i open (the COM4, the COM8 or another one?).
I ask you this because i have 10 COM ports available (from 1 to 10), but i cannot open all of them, because some tell me "COM porte error" when i try to open it.
Thanks for your help...
can anyone confirm if haicom-405 bt works with dopod 900?
Hustladave said:
Oh...and also...i use the software "GPS View" for the connection with the BT receiver...which port should i open (the COM4, the COM8 or another one?).
I ask you this because i have 10 COM ports available (from 1 to 10), but i cannot open all of them, because some tell me "COM porte error" when i try to open it.
Thanks for your help...
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As I wrote before:
Tap Com-Ports: new outgoing Port (your BT-Reciever) set to com 4
Tap Com-Ports: new incomming port (your BT-Reciever) set to com 8
Best wishes
Teja
jona69 said:
can anyone confirm if haicom-405 bt works with dopod 900?
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I follow the tips ...outgoing port (COM4 - which the only port can be used other failed to open), incoming port (COM8).
But it doesnt work with my Garmin10 .... which work well with my previous XDAIIs. Anyone use Garmin1o with Dopo900?
Thanks
Usually, there's no need to setup an ingoing COM port: my Holux 236 receiver, for instance, works perfectly paired with my Qtek 9000 and only the outgoing COM8 setup'd.
The only thing to pay attention for is that TomTom have to be v5.1 or above (better if v5.21), in order to work properly under Windows Mobile 5.0.
Well...in my previous XDAII worked perfectly using the software MAPSONIC and the GPS VIEWER with my BT receiver (and just setting the outgoing port).
I tried to do like Teja told me in his answer (setting the outgoing COM4 and the incoming COM8), but it still does not work.
I will try to get a TOMTOM 5.1 software to give it a try...
solved...and i don't need to setup the ingoing port...thanks for the tips
Hi there! I have MDA Pro from T-mobile (UK) and until now I couldn't set a COM port appart of COM0 port for BT-GPS...
Now have COM4 for outgoing port and tom tom once is connected after 5 seconds is disconnected and again after 5 seconds is connected and again is disconnected and again......
I am using TT 5.21
Help please
I have set the outgoing port on COM8, no ingoing port needed and it works fine...although i don't have TOMTOM!!!
Orange M5000 and BT GPS and TOMTOM 5.21
I thought I share this just in case there are other like me out there.
I had an Orange M2000 with tomtom 5.0 and 512MB SD card.
I installed TT5 as normal on the PDA but the maps on the 512MB SD card.
I just got an Orange M5000 which is XDA EXEC and could not install TOMTOM 5.0 from CD. The SETUP kept on crashing on XP PC.
Here is the solution:
1) Put the SD card with the maps in M5000
2) Did NOT install TT5 from CD but downloaded navupd521.exe from the tomtom site and installed this on M5000 fine.
NOTE: I did not have to copy CAB files. I just installed this as normal from my PC with the USB cable
3) TT installed fine but I could not get it to recognise the BT GPS
I used the instructions below from the forum:
a) Turn on BT GPS
b) on PDA goto BlueTooth seeting --> New Partnership and supply the password (0000) to pair it.
c) Then in Bluetooth settings select the COM PORTS tab
d) Select Incoming port and set to COM8
e) and again in COM PORTS tab select Outgoing ports and select COM4
f) Start TOMTOM and goto Preferences and find GPS Configuration and select OTHER GPS and select COM4
It works every time... ALL my FAvourites etc are still there so no need to type them again.
So far WM5 and TT5 rocks. I will be testing it on the road with my Plantronics BT headset soon. With my old M2000, usually when TT5 is on the M2000 CPU does not have the juice and Bluetooth devices die or stop responding. Also when I stopped TT5 application the BlueTooth stopped.
We will see how M5000 improves on M2000
Thax...
i believe you shouldnt have a problem running your headset and bluetooth GPS together.
when i had a blue angel i ran TT3 with my SonyErricson Car Kit and the TT3 together and made vioce calls at the same time and even now with the Universal i can do the same! run them both together!
only thing is that occasionaly the TT5 seems to be a little behind my actual location if i have made/received a call luckily by only 30-40 yards so can still use the screen to see where my turnings are.
has anyone else found that and got the cure....
thanks
Hi I have a mda compctII, I also have tomtom navigator 5. I am having problems setting up me I-blue gps reciever. I can get everything running and the test program supplied with the gpr reciever connects to the device and shows gps location. But... when I go to run tomtom I cannot get it to recognise the device. It is set up on bluetooth serial port 6 but tomtom does not have this selection availible... and Ideas?
I have no experience pairing a 3rd part BT GPS receiver since I use the original TomTom. I think what you need is to first install BT_COM_PORT.CAB (attached) so that you could select on which COM port to use.
Try upgrading TT to the latest version (5.21) too.
Good luck.
one step closer... in blutooth selection I am given the option for all the com ports... but it will only allow me to select com 6. This option is not shown in tomtom just com:0,2,3 and 9.
Sorry mate, I think I couldn't be of any further help since I have no experience with the I-Blue. If my memory serves me right, I think I saw some posts about the I-Blue in Howard Forum.
anyone able to use GPSTuner successfully?
http://www.gpstuner.com/overview.htm
I have installed MapkingG10... and works very well. Howver having problem with GPSTuner...as it will hang my pda when i start the GPS. I have set the PORT manually already.
same here.
Other progs find the GPS.
Only GPSTuner hang on.
What is the solution for that?
Same here.
Now using BeeLine GPS and Navigator II.
There are already topics in the Board of the GPS Tuner Website. The Program also only kills the PDA when it establishes the connection to the GPS Module. I can use the Program very well as long as it hast not initiated the GPS Receiver. As soon as i set the Port manually to the GPS receiver, the device freezes. If set to automatic search-mode, the Program freezes during startup, probably becaus it tries to use the GPS Module at once. When i searched there, there was no solution yet.... We have to be patient
Download a program called GPSgate (http://franson.com/index.asp? - Shareware version available) and use that to setup a virtual GPS com port on COM5. Then delete the gpstuner.ini file and select COM5 instead of COM4 when GPS Tuner is started. All worked fine for me with my XDA orbit.
Looks like GPS Tuner can't share the GPS as well as other programs but GPSgate gets over this until the developer can sort out his code.
Cheers,
Neil
w0mbat said:
...Then delete the gpstuner.ini file and select COM5 instead of COM4 when GPS Tuner is started.
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Haven't tried that, will do in the next days. I only tried GPS Gate creating a virtual COM Port and then selecting this Port in GPSTuner, there was the freeze again
Merry christmas
it works !!
Many THANKS !! it really made my day !! Merry Christmas !!
w0mbat said:
Download a program called GPSgate (http://franson.com/index.asp? - Shareware version available) and use that to setup a virtual GPS com port on COM5. Then delete the gpstuner.ini file and select COM5 instead of COM4 when GPS Tuner is started. All worked fine for me with my XDA orbit.
Looks like GPS Tuner can't share the GPS as well as other programs but GPSgate gets over this until the developer can sort out his code.
Cheers,
Neil
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The GPS Tuner site recommends a similar work round using JAL Port Splitter
"I have P3300 PDA (with integrated GPS). When I launch GPS Tuner, I am asked to automatically configure GPS Settings. After a few seconds the screen freeze and I have to soft reset my Pcket PC
Seems that the .NET Compact Framework's serial port reader is not fully compatible with P3300 device. There is a workaround for this problem. Please download the free JAL Port Splitter application and install it to your PDA. Before starting GPS Tuner, please start Port Splitter and set your input GPS port (write manually COM4 into the box) and an output virtual port (for example COM5). Then start GPS Tuner and set your GPS port same as Port Splitter's virual port."
GPS Turner
You have to install the software GPSGate in order fir GPS Tuner to work. The reasons are explained on the GPS Tuner web site...
BEline GPS works perfectly...
please anyone tell me where could I download the installation and key for Jal port splitter
Thanks
Hi!
Is there a way to use the GPS receiver that is built into the Artemis as a GPS Device for Windows (XP or Vista).
Maybe over Bluetooth or USB / ActiveSync connection.
I tried to set up Bluetooth COM Ports so Incoming BT connections connect directly to the GPS COM port, but without success... no gps data was coming through.
Also I search for a small tool to test the receiver... just a compass or something.
regards,
Daniel
You cannot just "bridge" the GPS com port to your desktop OS via BT. The BT stack was never designed that way. All BT com ports you use must have a piece of software behind it to fill it with data, or otherwise they are just empty cans.
In your case, you need a GPS splitter to get gps signals from the GPS com port, and then repeat it to a BT com port so that the other end can receive such signal. That will provide a working bridge for your data.
Try software such as gpsgate that works as described above.
Hello, you can try GPS2Blue is a little free program that will let you use your Artemis as a GPS.
You can find it here: http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html
Enjoy.
i got myself GPS2Blue and installed it.
My problem now is, that i cannot set up a BT COM port!
I have the (german) B&Bv3 ROM (WM6). In Bluetooth Settings in the "COM Ports"-Tab. It says "Tap on 'New outgoing port' ..." but theres no button or something. Just the describing text and an empty ListBox.
since I cannot set up my COM port, GPS2Blue won't swich on right?
So... is this a WM6 bug or a B&B Bug or my brain-bug
Setting up COM ports in my firmware WM5 OS worked just fine.
Thanks you guys for the info!
but what to do now?
GPSgate can do what you want (but it is not free)
gpsgate can set up bluetooth com ports? i dont think so
this is not a gps problem anymore!
i posted a new thread for my new problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315687
GPSGate can do it!!
Use this is the registration key:AmzeaBjw
Then your Artemis can pass GPS information to your PC through Bluetooth
Fransons GPS Gate will enable the sharing of GPS position to a number of different types of device, I am not too sure about posting a registration key for purchased software as these are specific to an individual user??? - Mike