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Ideas for B&B version 4.2

I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers

pna said:
I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers
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Here is something that may hold you over, I am still trying to figure out how to use the caller id without the actual slide to unlock, bit here is something to tide you over, jsut a thought

Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers

Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.

kakainis said:
Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.
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This would be a waste of time and energy for most, these Roms are made to be efficient, the least amount of space used so that you as an individual can place your desired programs, once a rom is built there is no removing/uninstalling of any apps, hence the reason to not put trial versions into a rom, I use several of the above mentioned, but to "Bloat" a rom with them would be ineffecient. Best thing to do is install on your sd card, keep all your initial install cabs in one folder and use that as your rebuild folder. Cheers.

Juice05 said:
Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers
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This may assist you in this matter, Cheers.

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Is it not worth remembering that everyone has a different list of killer apps they MUST have on their device?
If Tom & Meschle etc added every app - the rom would only just fit on a 40gb hard disk!!!
To my mind - the idea is that the cooked roms are a basis onto which you install your own apps to make your own device work?
Constanlty asking for new apps to be added to a rom just complicates the issue. Or am I wrong?

something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete

automated network setup like in the O2 WM6 Premium 1.0 WWE rom

Extended timers & alarms application
I'd like to avoid installing SpbTime on each version
Great job!

OK, i agree, rom should be as slim as possible, but why the hell there is cube, psshutXP, PHM regedit/traylaunch, and office mobile on it then?
Could make an ultra lite wersion. (=
P.S. Dont get me wrong, i think 4.1 is great and it is a lot faster than O2. Just throwing around ideas about how to make it better.

with my original post, I was not really asking for a copy of the app, just would like a much bigger photo to pop up with caller id and liked the look of the inesoft one.
Tom - what do you think?

Just trying to make the ROM easier to use, more efficient.
B&B 4.1 is far better than original ROM from this point of view
TouchFlo for example helps to have everything we need with a single finger move..
Phone app is a lot more usable also.
Perhaps also the possibility to customize HTC Home by default, with more options (number of apps in the launcher, ..)

i don't think that is constructive to add as much apps, i can imagine, when it's released, everbody is shouting "this is not good" and "why did you use this app and not the other one"...and so one. I like it clear, not too much apps...but that's my opinion.
If i want it with all apps included then i start (to learn ) cooking my own ROM... IMHO i am very satisfied with the work that Tom is doing for us all. And 4.1 is just released. Enjoy it and let Tom make a break. He is hard working all the time!

Plugins for new version
Alarms extension (SpbTime style)
USB PenDrive emulator (WMstorage style)
Phone call recording (Audio Recorder style)
Thanks for B&B! Great job!

i have a great idea
Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.

Improving File access
What I would like to see is the File Dialog Changer, I don't know who has heard of it but it is very good! Usually when you want to save files or open them in any application you get access to you My Documents folder. Only some smart apps like TCPMP and others have the option to access your entire pda.
File Dialog Changer changes the way you access your files in opening and saving them for every application, it's just 50 KB and you can activate / deactivate it in System Settings.
bbracer16valver said:
something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete
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And about your wish I can only say that there is already Remote Desktop for WM6, I think I've downloaded it in the Wizard forum. Or use PocketVNC, that is the pda version for VNC. I am successfully using that with TightVNC on my computer. I just have to be in range of my WLAN and can turn on my computer by sending a wake on lan signal (not with vnc) and then access my computer through pocketvnc or access the files on my computer.

neilhhardy said:
Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.
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Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop

brainstorming said:
Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop
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I think he had a point though. In the whole thread there is not one message of Tom Codon himself. Did you ask what he thinks? Maybe he has a few ideas of his own? After all, it will be his ROM...

Who says it will be B&B v4.2? Why not 4.3 or 5.0? If there will be another version let him take care of the numbers.

Can't download SDA_ApplicationUnlock ????

Hi all, just got my second dash, and wanna flash to wm6.1. Main reason, I want threaded SMS, that's really all I want out of it. I will mainly be using my phone as an mp3 player (with a2dp headphones), for texting, email, internet surfing, and gaming (pocketNester )
I was trying to follow the directions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415225 But the following link won't let me download the sim application unlocker, it keeps saying page not found
http://www.mediafire.com/?egm0z1vnbh0
Any ideas? My phone is a Rogers locked s621, not sure if that makes a difference.
Also, I know there are the main 4 6.1 Roms, I read what they offered, and they all seemed like they would work for me. One I saw had an app in it for overclocking, which may be nice to speed up my phone for pocketnester, but from what I can recall, this app can be installed to any ROM.
From the pics, the Rose rom by Ricky and Stylez seems the coolest looking, I guess because of the chrome theme. Anyways, any suggestions as to my rom choice are greatly appreciated, and a solution for the app unlocker. I would go with what ever rom was easiest, as this will be my first time doing this. Hope to be able to do this by tomorrow evenign, thanks a lot everyone

coop3422 said:
Hi all, just got my second dash, and wanna flash to wm6.1. Main reason, I want threaded SMS, that's really all I want out of it. I will mainly be using my phone as an mp3 player (with a2dp headphones), for texting, email, internet surfing, and gaming (pocketNester )
I was trying to follow the directions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415225 But the following link won't let me download the sim application unlocker, it keeps saying page not found
http://www.mediafire.com/?egm0z1vnbh0
Any ideas? My phone is a Rogers locked s621, not sure if that makes a difference.
Also, I know there are the main 4 6.1 Roms, I read what they offered, and they all seemed like they would work for me. One I saw had an app in it for overclocking, which may be nice to speed up my phone for pocketnester, but from what I can recall, this app can be installed to any ROM.
From the pics, the Rose rom by Ricky and Stylez seems the coolest looking, I guess because of the chrome theme. Anyways, any suggestions as to my rom choice are greatly appreciated, and a solution for the app unlocker. I would go with what ever rom was easiest, as this will be my first time doing this. Hope to be able to do this by tomorrow evenign, thanks a lot everyone
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Use this program first.

thanks alot, I see its a cab file, so do i unzip it on my phone, or on my computer? Just really dont wanna brick my phone, lol

coop3422 said:
thanks alot, I see its a cab file, so do i unzip it on my phone, or on my computer? Just really dont wanna brick my phone, lol
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Place the .cab on phone and run 'click on' with Resco Explorer.
All files needed also here

i feel so dumb right now, lol. what is Resco explorer? :S Really appreciate the help

coop3422 said:
i feel so dumb right now, lol. what is Resco explorer? :S Really appreciate the help
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It's a file explorer, so if you are on a stock WM6 use file explorer to click on the .cabs

stylez said:
It's a file explorer, so if you are on a stock WM6 use file explorer to click on the .cabs
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I tried that, but when i left click on cab file, it opens in unzip program and there's lots of files. What do i do with all those?

primo72 said:
I tried that, but when i left click on cab file, it opens in unzip program and there's lots of files. What do i do with all those?
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Eat them

lol, thx for the help and quick responses stylez. I alread app unlocked it, and am currently downloading my 6.1 rom. I'm d/ling ricky's kavana rom, and i was looking at your version of the rose rom. How do the 2 compare? Is there a better one?
All i do with my phone is txt, surf the net a little, play pocketnester, and email. Thats about it. I want a rom that is quick with as little lag as possible would be ideal. What is the best rom for my use? Thanks a lot

im getting error 202: connection. It is saying my phone is not connected, but it is. any ideas?

coop3422 said:
im getting error 202: connection. It is saying my phone is not connected, but it is. any ideas?
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was the phone able to sync with activesync?

coop3422 said:
im getting error 202: connection. It is saying my phone is not connected, but it is. any ideas?
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Take the battery out and restart the phone.
1 - Install SP_AllowcertificateInstall
2 - Install SDA_ApllicationUnlock
3 - Run Uspl.bat
4 - When the screen turned white you can install every rom you want
5 - Good luck

Here are some questions that i need answering!!

ive been searching for months and still havnt found any decent programs, the software wiki is useless as it doesnt even tell you what half the programs are or do! ive been waiting since duttys 2.6 to ask these questions so i didint just throw 1 in here and there.. i hope you guys can help.
how about i ask:
whats is the best navigation system for the touch hd? ive used tomtom6 but it doesnt work too well best ive been able to use is google navigator however it doesnt have many features pretty much just what the dot move is where you are.
is it possible to have custom alarm clock tones? or custome msg tones? i cant seem to figure out how to change them to my own, ive even tried moving the file to the tones folder on the device but it wont let me.
i know it has wifi, but how do i know if its using my wireless networks internet and not the 3g data connection on the handset? can it even use the wifi for internet access?
using duttys 2.6 i can no longer change my background on the today screen anyone know why?
ive looked around but cant find how to set my device to view my hotmail account? any answers?
ive got a bunch of avi files on my computer which are mainly movies and music video clips, but they wont play using the windows media playeror divx player
i tried core as well but it didnt seem to work, i must be doing something wrong?
i love the keyboad but its too small for my fat fingers, can i make the keys bigger? they dont seem to get bigger even in landscape?
can i have more things on the today screen? like text msgs and stuff? when i click the sms tab i have to scroll through each individual text msg? is there a new page i can look at them all?
are there any modifications to make the sms page better?
what other modifications are there to make it more user friendly and can i modify the files in the device at all? get rid of any? add more?
programs im after:
a good media player for avi files
a good music player
some good games that use the graphics like teeter? some games like on iphone such as idracular? possible?
cheers guys..

whats is the best navigation system for the touch hd? ive used tomtom6 but it doesnt work too well best ive been able to use is google navigator however it doesnt have many features pretty much just what the dot move is where you are.
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IGO8 - without a doubt. Excellent performance, looks gorgeously on big Touch HD screen, great visual style, lots of cool features! Overall, I found IGO8 to be much better then TomTom, Ndrive or Garmin.
is it possible to have custom alarm clock tones? or custome msg tones? i cant seem to figure out how to change them to my own, ive even tried moving the file to the tones folder on the device but it wont let me.
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Yes it is. You need to convert your files to .wav format and copy them into Windows folder. After that, they will be available to pick when selecting ring tones for any event.
i know it has wifi, but how do i know if its using my wireless networks internet and not the 3g data connection on the handset? can it even use the wifi for internet access?
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I believe you can set this up in dialing rules. Also, I think by default the device will always prefer connecting through WiLan if it's available and hooked up.
using duttys 2.6 i can no longer change my background on the today screen anyone know why?
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There are several programs now available that will enable you to enjoy background images in high quality on ALL tabs. Check this for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503511
ive looked around but cant find how to set my device to view my hotmail account? any answers?
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Not sure about this one, but I remember people writing about it on Blackstone forum, so do some searching.
ive got a bunch of avi files on my computer which are mainly movies and music video clips, but they wont play using the windows media playeror divx player
i tried core as well but it didnt seem to work, i must be doing something wrong?
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Best performance for divx files can be achieved by using Core player. If you feel like recoding, it's recommended to use FLV container, with xvid codec. This seems to get best results. Depending on the movie, it's also possible to enjoy standard torrent divx rips directly via Core player, without recoding.
i love the keyboad but its too small for my fat fingers, can i make the keys bigger? they dont seem to get bigger even in landscape?
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Why not try FingerKeyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501122
can i have more things on the today screen? like text msgs and stuff? when i click the sms tab i have to scroll through each individual text msg? is there a new page i can look at them all?
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Touch Flo 3D Today screen is rather stiff. You can have more appointments by sliding the clock upwards, to make it smaller. However, there's no way to get messages display there. However, recently there has been some development here on XDA, allowing users to have a special tab for standard Windows Mobile Home screen - and you can install bunch of other apps for this, so you might find what you want after all.
are there any modifications to make the sms page better?
what other modifications are there to make it more user friendly and can i modify the files in the device at all? get rid of any? add more?
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Better in what way? As far as I know, you can only change text size, and that's only when you open up the message. Also, if you click on the message body when previewed in Messages tab, it will open up new Rhodium style messaging (not the default WinMo, like when you click on "All messages").
a good media player for avi files
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Standard HTC album seems to be best for normal AVI, since it uses hardware acceleration. You need to check your avi files, they're probably not properly coded.
a good music player
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What's wrong with normal HTC player? What are you looking for when you say "good"?
some good games that use the graphics like teeter? some games like on iphone such as idracular? possible?
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XTrakt (racing arcade)
Pocket Mini Golf 2 (very fun game!)
Need for speed (racing arcade)
Hexxagon Labs (logic, good graphics)
Bejeweled (logic, good graphics)
Transport Tycoon (strategy)
Monopoly here and now (strategy)

for youre hotmail i can see my inbox in my messages
configure msn and while configuring youve got the option to synchronise youre mailbox

thank you very much for you help, im going to re flash the rom to duttys new one and do pretty much eveerything ive been recommended on here and see how i go! now i just need my battery to last longer haha. without making it bigger!

[Update]WM Music Player

Its gotten to the point where i feel that i should completely rewrite this app if any progress is going to be made .
So Im going to try to find some time to do just that.
so if anyones still using this, hopefully ill have something soon... its nowhere near done, but heres what i have so far.
v0.1.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aygEqcsRcqc
ive attached the (very) alpha version... It looks in your storage card only for your music. and is for wvga devices only.
click on the songs to add them to your now playing playlist, click on the + to add without playing the song.
the player saves the playlist when you click on the clock and minimize the form.
hopefully it works for you
with everything going on i might not be able keep up with this thread very well, but ill try to keep you updated.
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0.0.4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30_ut9H6kBI
You will also need a rom with WMP installed.... btw

Hi Timmy ,
i really like your windows media payer it's possible to send us your cab?
a big thinks !!!

Timmy212 said:
Im new to this Forum thing and feel pretty lost... BUT
I have been looking for a good music player that i liked, but really havent found anything so i decided i would venture off and make my own. This is my first ever phone app, written in .net 2.0 c#. So i thought i would come here for a little guidance since I've been kind of a ghost in the crowd for this site.
Anyway I have only been working on it for a few weekends and some week nights but i think its coming along nicely. I love to use it at work(which is what spawned the notification area... i would be lost without emails and appointments ) and i have basically tried to build it to what i wanted in a player.
I thought Id bring it here to see if anybody would be interested in helping test it out and like i said... maybe give some guidance.
Since i just started i dont really have a cab or anything, just the .exe from the debugger . but if you guys like it maybe I can make it into something that everyone can enjoy!
heres the video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQzPVdEicd0
and pics...
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Hallo Timmy212, i am intressing on your player. Can you send a link for the player.

And can you tell us for which resolution is done?
I am WQVGA resolution.... i hope it's OK

Timmy212 said:
Im new to this Forum thing and feel pretty lost... BUT
I have been looking for a good music player that i liked, but really havent found anything so i decided i would venture off and make my own. This is my first ever phone app, written in .net 2.0 c#. So i thought i would come here for a little guidance since I've been kind of a ghost in the crowd for this site.
i hope you enjoy ...
and i hope it works .
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Hello Timmy212,
i can not open the Player. I have WM6.5.3 an the Files load in the Folder we are you write.
The dlls load in the windows folder. When open the player i have a error.
The specified module could not be found. I am press the details and have this error. myTunes.exe filenotfoundexception The specified module could not be found.
by
System.windows.formsAxhost.create witoutlicence(Guid clsid) etc etc...
we can help you for this problem.

cosmicgate said:
Hello Timmy212,
i can not open the Player. I have WM6.5.3 an the Files load in the Folder we are you write.
The dlls load in the windows folder. When open the player i have a error.
The specified module could not be found. I am press the details and have this error. myTunes.exe filenotfoundexception The specified module could not be found.
by
System.windows.formsAxhost.create witoutlicence(Guid clsid) etc etc...
we can help you for this problem.
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Interesting... I havent seen this error before. Im not sure how to go about troubleshooting that. Hopefully i can work on the player this weekend and see if i cant get a little more stable build up...
Sorry i dont have a definate answer... im trying to learn as fast as i can

Works great for me on my personal 6.5.3 (28008) Fuze build. In fact i love it and so far no bugs. Works fine over bluetooth. The only thing I would love to see added is AVRCP bluetooth remote support.

TaurenSnake said:
Works great for me on my personal 6.5.3 (28008) Fuze build. In fact i love it and so far no bugs. Works fine over bluetooth. The only thing I would love to see added is AVRCP bluetooth remote support.
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Thats definately on the "todo" list, but i havent had time to look into implementation yet... I'm glad to hear it works for someone though

Hi Timmy
First congrats for your work and your sharing. It's revolutionary in it's design!
After playing a bit I can see room for improvement:
1 enlarge the fonts
2 pressing play 2nd time pauses but the icon doesn't change
3 add volume control
4 add exit button
5 add stop button
6 add a screen off option to save power
In the minimised view:
7 the sliding effect seems reversed because the slider is not moving, consider a wheel effect (with or without slider)
8 shuffling through directories is not very responsive, I found the best response when swiping my fingernail on the top or the bottom of the central slider.
9 the directories names are hidden by the finger, maybe move them above the slider
10 enhance Dpad functionality : right/left are ok, up/down should switch dirs (now they behave like right/left) and action button should play/pause (now it's not responsive)
This is it for now
I wouldn't have bothered writing so much if I didn't think it has the potential to become a leading app, so keep up (I also think you are going to get more involved than you thought )
Big thanks !

Nice App run perfectly on my Axim x51 running WM6
Thanks!!!!!!

Hi Timmy212,
It seems to work OK, but on my VGA Loox N560 running Newplow's ROM for WM6.1 I cannot find out how to exit the program. Am I missing something obvious? There seems to be no menu or exit icon? It does look good though. Thank you.

fingerstoo said:
Hi Timmy212,
It seems to work OK, but on my VGA Loox N560 running Newplow's ROM for WM6.1 I cannot find out how to exit the program. Am I missing something obvious? There seems to be no menu or exit icon? It does look good though. Thank you.
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When you pull down the top drawer i had it set the windows state to normal so the x button should pop up in the normal windows taskbar... At least thats how i planned it .

tito12 said:
Hi Timmy
First congrats for your work and your sharing. It's revolutionary in it's design!
After playing a bit I can see room for improvement:
1 enlarge the fonts
2 pressing play 2nd time pauses but the icon doesn't change
3 add volume control
4 add exit button
5 add stop button
6 add a screen off option to save power
In the minimised view:
7 the sliding effect seems reversed because the slider is not moving, consider a wheel effect (with or without slider)
8 shuffling through directories is not very responsive, I found the best response when swiping my fingernail on the top or the bottom of the central slider.
9 the directories names are hidden by the finger, maybe move them above the slider
10 enhance Dpad functionality : right/left are ok, up/down should switch dirs (now they behave like right/left) and action button should play/pause (now it's not responsive)
This is it for now
I wouldn't have bothered writing so much if I didn't think it has the potential to become a leading app, so keep up (I also think you are going to get more involved than you thought )
Big thanks !
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Thanks for your suggestions! ...
all good ideas!
for 1. i Like the idea of seeing as much of the text as i can on the page which is why they are soo small but i have been thinking about increasing the size, especially for lower resolution devices.
2. I do need to implement this,
3. I intially liked the idea of just using the system volume but i might add to see if i like it
4. for my 6.5.1 rom when i minimize it brings up the x button, i didnt think about how 6.5.3 looks
6. again for my rom i just hit the power button and it turns that backlight off, but i will try to add this.
7. Im still trying to figure out exactly how i want this view to work... I really just wanted a Quick way to go through all the album art. Hopefully i can pull something off here
8. The sliding art just works by grabbing the center albumart and then moving it in the direction you want it to go. and if you slide it all the way over and keep your finger on the screen it will keep going until you lift up...
but like i said this MIGHT change
9. i will definately be moving some text around
10. i havent set anything up for the dpad... its just manipulating the listbox that had focus last. This will change
Im about 400 miles away from my main desktop so i havent done any more work on it... but i have been setting up my 6 year old laptop with all the mobile sdk's to hopefully keep the project running the next couple weeks till i can get back home

Thanks for the detailed answer mate, by the way on my build power button stops the music and for the rest, good luck but don't forget to enjoy your holiday

Installed the player in my device with WM 6.5.3 and it works very well.
Besides the points mentioned by Tito i would suggest an exit button as i have to slide down to reveal the taskbar and then close the player from there. On this bulid no exit button comes up.
Also ...is there an option to save playlists?

Timmy212 said:
When you pull down the top drawer i had it set the windows state to normal so the x button should pop up in the normal windows taskbar... At least thats how i planned it .
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Yup, feel a fool.... I found it after posting, but I notice that Claus1953 did not like it either. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
I like your approach to the GUI design though. Up until now I have been using S2P from this site, by A_C. Because of GUI usability problems with later releases, I have stuck with his older 0.58 release. Your player is similar. I am sure you are familiar with S2P? I will consider using your program as it has some advantages already. Keep it up.

Hello Timmy212,
i found the problem. My operating system WM6.5.3 have not a windows mobile player, separate one mobile corelplayer.
Your more player from there mobile functions more player and not with others playern only with windows mobile.
This is a good player and function perfectly.
Sorry for my english.

claus1953 said:
Installed the player in my device with WM 6.5.3 and it works very well.
Besides the points mentioned by Tito i would suggest an exit button as i have to slide down to reveal the taskbar and then close the player from there. On this bulid no exit button comes up.
Also ...is there an option to save playlists?
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there is no way to save playlists yet... hopefully i can get it working soon though ... and also a close/minimise button will probably be in the works also.

cosmicgate said:
Hello Timmy212,
i found the problem. My operating system WM6.5.3 have not a windows mobile player, separate one mobile corelplayer.
Your more player from there mobile functions more player and not with others playern only with windows mobile.
This is a good player and function perfectly.
Sorry for my english.
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excellent... glad you got it working! I should probably figure out some requirements and post them sometime

just one question, sry for bothering you..
what about formats like:
mod, xm, sap, sid,
etc, etc?
any plans for plugins?
just mp3 player with(let's say).. nice look?

dual boot android winows

Hi i saw someware that the hd2 had dual boot windows and android.
as i use android i find it dosnt do all the things i want like tomtom, skype, divx/wmv, allowing you to save apps to the sd card etc, etc basically every thing i used my old phone for so i was wondering before i try n swap this back to a windows based device if there was a dual boot rom or somthing. thanks.

Every week at least one person asks this question. At the moment no, it can't be done. Furthermore, Windows Mobile sucks. I like hacking and modding my phone as much as the next person but can't understand why anybody would want this.
You can save your apps to sd card in Froyo. Instead of tomtom you have Google Nav, which is free. For divx and wmv playback install rockplayer which is also free. Perhaps you have a point on Skype though.
By the way the dual boot on the touch HD is not a "real" dual boot and doesn't run Android natively, it still boots Windows Mobile first and then just autoruns an Android launcher from the SD card.

Thanks for the reply i have to say i like tomtom alot more then google maps, skype are useless but i have credit on there and everyone is on it so free skype to skype calls, i am glad for the info on rockplayer i was under the impression all players were front end only and miss coreplayer as i dont wanna sit around converting vids all day ya know.
yay rockplayer rurles thank you whats the best voip alternative to skype ?
Is that the official froyo release will let me save to sdcard so if i unroot and flash back to original htc rom i can have official froyo with saving to sd card ? thats great if i read you right wares the original rom lol oopsi...
i know windows sucks but my experience with android hasnt completely impressed either. thanks for the reply and the info though mate its truly appretiated
oh and have great weekend

for voip try sipdroid

thank you i will do but if it sucks can i giv you a chinese burn ?

matisamd said:
thank you i will do but if it sucks can i giv you a chinese burn ?
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Fring is a video skype client. Windows is out of the game. It will take 8 min before you want Android back.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

can i ask ware you sent your comment from thanks but does that mean i can use my skype credit with fring ? guess i'll go find out

I used to have a Touch HD , and ran winmo 6.5 ( rom ) and run " andriod " over the top.
It was not actually andriod :
http://www.techhackz.com/2010/05/windroid-android-theme-for-windows.html
windriod.. theams and apps..
There are loads of other apps that run and " look " like andriod.. but are no way near !!!!!!!!!!!!

fanello123 said:
for voip try sipdroid
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I found sipdroid to be a pain in the arse and would not recommend it to anybody ...
Not tried fring though, I will give it a go.
matisamd said:
Is that the official froyo release will let me save to sdcard so if i unroot and flash back to original htc rom i can have official froyo with saving to sd card ? thats great if i read you right wares the original rom lol oopsi...
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You will have to root if you have not done so already do get froyo. It's easy and painless. You will also need to flash a new radio to use these roms or you will get white noise and echo on the line. There's a good selection of froyo roms now in the dev section on this board since the HTC build with Sense was leaked.
Once you have froyo you can either default apps to install to the sd card, or you can go into Settings - Applications - Manage applications - Select App, press "move to sd card"

st0kes said:
I found sipdroid to be a pain in the arse and would not recommend it to anybody ...
Not tried fring though, I will give it a go.
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Very new to the htc desire but have been into voip for a good few years, give 3cxphone a try for voip too. Found the sound quality really good and its easy to set up.

for navigation copilot is great. For skype you can use nimbuzz... use google or bing or ask searches... its not that difficult to find stuff.