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Vanishing emailaccounts after install Jasjar update

Hello,
I update my MDA pro to the new imate ROM but my emailaccount keep vanishing after a softreset has anyone any clue?
Thanx

same here
but on my device it was like this also before the upgrade?
which device dou you have, and which rom you had before upgrading to the jasjar rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=161019#161019

dont soft reset using a stilys. Use a program to allow flush the file bufferssss

yeah, thanks but.
i know that and honestly i still have to try it. BUT:
I just want to know WHY this happens, and WHY other users with the same ROM as mine is DONT have this problem.
And, if i incidentally do a Softreset or maybe take out the battery, i lose my account again! thats not a solution for me.
Anyways thanks for your hint . apreciate that.
can you confirm my thought about the battery? or maybe its REALLY losing the accounts just after a Stylus reset?

It hapened to me time ago.. Some programs, like outlook, dont flush their databases buffers each moment. So, if you create a new account, or delete some mails or sms (this actions modify the database files managed by outlook) and then you reset your pda using the stylus, many buffer may be not empty so you loose that information. When you reset your pda using a program (it uses a API funcion that allow the buffers to be flushed to their files) all the information is saved in disk and you wouldnt hava to loose anything.....

thnx
thats was a clear explanation, thank you.
Any ideas why this happens only on some devices, even if they have the same rom?

I ve repeated the test right now. I have sent a email to my account in gmail(this account is configured in my jasjar). I ve connected using UMTS an and i ve downloaded the mail. then a i ve soft reset using stylus. When the device has booted i have launched pocket outlook and the mail wasnt there. I ve downloaded the mail again and a i ve done soft reset using a program (handy meny). When the system has booted the mail was there. Conclusion: I supose Outlook use the api fuction "CeWriteRecordProps" to update or insert a new record in the outlook database and probably Windows Mobile 2005 uses a buffer policy to reduce the access to these databases. so, if windows hasnt written this records fisically to disk then you can lose some information if you reset using stylus. When you use a program to reset, windows informs to the device drivers that "sleep" is in progress and they have to save the unsaved information so the disk driver has a chance so save all.
I hope Microsoft change this policy soon.....

so you...
...think this happens on all HTC Universals?

I think it happens in all Windows Mobile 2005 devices....

ok, i´ll let you know in the next days...
...then i´ll receive some more universals. and also one of a freind of mine, who told me that he hasn´t got this problem. i don´t know if its true, but we will see...

I don't know.I ve repeteated this test with my jasjar and my himalaya(with magneto) with same results

i can confirm...
...your description to 100% !
with a "soft"-softreset everything is fine.
and i´ve found out why other devices semmed to do NOT have the problem. Those users setted up their account, and had serveral (100+) mails ond their pop-server. Poutlook took a few minutes tu download headers and part of the messages. in this time the "buffer" was "written back" to the mail-db.
So: I think that for now, all the WM5, or at least all UNIVERSALS got this problem. Some user just don´t realize it.
Now that we (well,i) now that it is not a problem of just my device, FOR NOW i think i can live with this solution. btw, i use Pocket Plus 3 as task manager and Softresetter.
thnx dherrero.

Thanx DHerrero
After your tip I used spb pocketplus 3.0 and the softreset works wonderfully!
Thanx for the workaround hope they'll fix it soon because pocketplus makes the system very slow.[/list]

strange....
With Pocketplus my system runs fast as always, no problems at all.

Pocketplus
Probably due too a combination of software then.
I'll work it out if you say its not due too SPB Pocketplus
Thanx

you re wellcome. There are many programs to soft-reset the device "softly" and thye dont brake the system.... For example Hany Menu and much more.. :lol:

New MDA pro user MDA will not Sych with Office 2003 (AS 4.1)

Hi I just bought MDA Pro badged as T-Mobile in Brunei. The software it came with is O2 !! ?? so someone has changed it from the German OS from original T-Mobile maybe and made it English using O2 software maybe.
Anyway it all works ok apart from I can't synch to my PC running MS Outlook 2003.
I have updated my Active synch to 4.1. My old XDAII still synchs no problem but new MDA gives support code 85010014.
Any ideas
Many thanks

if you can do all the other syncing but not the office2003 sync you should repair your installation of office2003. it is there in the help tab.

Thanks for the help but I have already tried that. Also reinstalled activsync and repaired it. I see from other sources on the web (take a look at google) that this is happening to a LOT of users but NO answers yet. Not that seem to WORK anyway and OF COURSE nothing from MS!!

Just do search for the error code here in the forum and I'm sure you'll find an answer.
I'm not quite sure, as I recall you need to unistall & reinstall outlook, as well as deleting more than one or two partnership is in active sync.
Thanks

Is There A Real Fix For Disappearing Email Accounts?

POP Email accounts and elements of Network setting disappear once in a while.
It happens with all the new ROMs. I've done the mUn thing, where one opens a connection, stops it and restarts. But the accounts still disappear, sometimes after weeks of use, sometimes after just a few days.
There is an app to resurrect the missing email account, but after you still have to input servers and address. Just very annoying while traveling.
What is the damned problem and is there a permanent solution?

I have changed the file registry type (File based registry) from "Hive" to "File" using tweaks2k2 and it seems ok, someone else needs to cross check it

please explain
I also would avoid this repetitive problem , could you please how to try , step by step , in simple words ?
thanks

Thanks, taiseer999! I just changed to File, keeping my fingers crossed. BTW, how long have you used it after the change without loss of settings?
tower5, you need tweaks2k2 (it has 3 changes trial and go to System Tricks/Collection 5. Check File Based Registry (WM5).
Hopefully this works (it sounds like it should.)

P.S. Perhaps. if this really works, the ROM chefs can integrate it into the ROMs. Is there any disadvantage to using File rather than Hive?

I´ve been following all the steps that mun_rus wrote down and after the last upgrade I didn´t do it right away so I lost my e-mail accounts quite a few times and when I try to set the same account up with the same name and settings the pda pops up a message saying that there´s another account with the same name and I don´t know where and I don´t see it.
But now I guess it´s working fine,after several soft resets my new account it´s till there.

taiseer999 said:
I have changed the file registry type (File based registry) from "Hive" to "File" using tweaks2k2 and it seems ok, someone else needs to cross check it
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It doesn't work, unfortunately:-(
Checked mail last night, a little later went to check again, and the email account had disappeared.
This is just crazy....
What is the reason this is happening? To ALL the new ROMs?

Why MS don't Fix this Big Problem?
MacGuy2006 said:
POP Email accounts and elements of Network setting disappear once in a while.
It happens with all the new ROMs. I've done the mUn thing, where one opens a connection, stops it and restarts. But the accounts still disappear, sometimes after weeks of use, sometimes after just a few days.
There is an app to resurrect the missing email account, but after you still have to input servers and address. Just very annoying while traveling.
What is the damned problem and is there a permanent solution?
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I have Same Problem,why MS don't Fix this Big Problem?

try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=47879&d=1187855480

zonz said:
try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=47879&d=1187855480
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yes, mailrepair.exe do recover the mail account.
but the main problems is not only about mail account, it is a datebase lost or cert lost.
even u recover the mail account and setup all the password again to make the wm system continue working, it became unstable anyway.
once account lost, best way out is hard-reset.
in daily use, avoid to reset the handset as much as possible.

MacGuy2006 said:
It doesn't work, unfortunately:-(
Checked mail last night, a little later went to check again, and the email account had disappeared.
This is just crazy....
What is the reason this is happening? To ALL the new ROMs?
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It's a security feature of wm6, bugged of course.
Disabling file system cache can help (I've never lost email account until now) but you still have to take care to close PO before a soft reset.
Ciao

been using RUU_Trinity_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.00.707.18_6275_1.46.30.11_108_Ship for a good while and the e-mail accounts don't even think of disappearing...so there you go...

I have also used Dobod-wwe in my HTC since it was released and never had issues with mail accounts. Also tried pdaviet and Bepe but original dobod was most stable for my HTC.

Still......Issue
mndgz said:
been using RUU_Trinity_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.00.707.18_6275_1.46.30.11_108_Ship for a good while and the e-mail accounts don't even think of disappearing...so there you go...
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Still......Issue

just started using ax3l's lite rom, wi-fi settings and mail accounts seemed to stay there no problem untill I installed network wizard. After that everything disappears after every reset. Could that be the cause....?

just when I got most of my apps neatly reinstalled and all....has to be done all over again...at times like these I really have to fight the temptation to throw the thing against the wall...Thankfully I got an N95 as well which never loses settings so back into the pocket the P3600 goes, hail the N95
will update on that settings /mail accs business when I get the nerve to reinstall everything again

Yay, got my accounts back! Thanks!

I'm not going to pretend to know what I'm talking about, but I can tell you that in the past, it was mentioned that it had something to do with the Old and New Kernels. The Old one (WM5) was fine, while the new one (WM6) is not. At least that's what I THINK I remember.
Anways, for whatever reason, my ROMs don't have this problem. Here are a couple that I know avoid it:
[KITCHEN+ROMS][WWE][Jun.28.2010] WM6.5.1 23504 - WM6.5.5 23569 M2D Blue Re-Visit
[KITCHENS+ROMS][WWE][ITA][Nov.04.2009] WM6.5 23504 - Sorry NOT FOR P3600i! OFFLINE
[KITCHENS+ROMS] [WWE] [10.27.2009] WM6.5 23081 - Sorry NOT FOR P3600i!
I have used the same Kernel in Most all of my Kitchens, so maybe that is it...

HELP ... WM6 - 2 Small questions

I have two small questions. Hopefully they are eay to answer though I have had no luck so far finding if the answers are here.
1) In the mail / sms app the left soft key is "delete", can this be changed to "new" as it was in wm5 ?
2) In the nice new HTML email mode I get my emails fine, but the images don't download in the mail. Is it possible to stop each mail promopting and for it just to happen ?
May not be ROM specific but just in case, I am using Schap's WM6 Pro 4.31.
Thanks for reading
Dave

hi Dave, firstly, no you cannot change the button back. Well not that i know of. Annoying.
Secondly, i assume you are connecting to an msexchange 2007 server so that you are actually viewing the mail in html, a lot of people made the mistake of assuming that wm6 would give them html email through their existing ex2003 server.
I am guessing though that the images in the emails are being seen as attachments and are therefore not downloaded until you say so. Maybe you should tick the box to download attachments automatically and limit the size of them to something sensible. Probly dont want to try this unless you have a decent data plan.

Hi,
Thats a shame. I keep deleteing my message when trying to send new ones !
Actually I am not using any server for my mail. I am collecting directly from my ISP using pop3. The message contains a little notification bar just like IE would saying that I should click it download the images.
Someone I know who has this ROM said that there was a reg key i could change and it would do it all automatically.
Cheers for the response.

Hi dmj1973,
I have done quite a bit of Google research on the pocket Outlook issue of not automatically downloading pictures, and there doesn't appear to be a solution. I myself have switched to qmail and no longer have that problem.

How to auto hard reset if stolen?

Is there a way to auto hard reset the device if for example the pin is entered incorrectly 5 times? Or any other way to hard reset the device if stolen?
Thanks
Rakam

is it your pda.... search the forum and maybe you get lucky
if it's not your pda i can only say one thing:
DON'T STEEL OTHER PEOPLES STUFF!!!

There are several program's which are intended to protect your mobile when they are stolen. Not sure if there's a function like the one you mention. But there are programs which are able to send a sms with the gps location unnoticed. Use google to find it.

kuilbop: If you read again my question, I believe you'll understand the PDA is mine... Regarding the search I had already done so, but with no luck...
Bart1981: Thanks for the reply! I think that If a PDA is stolen or lost there is too many information on it - like all contacts, mails, schedules, home location (GPS), personal photos and videos, personal and professional files, etc
I really think that the hard reset feature if the pin is entered incorrectly too many times should be a default on all devices.
So, anyone can help?
Rakam

Bearing in mind, how ****ed off would you be if you got drunk one night and forgot your PIN?
You would lose everything, just for the sake of a few drinks? :S
A program like which you are requesting would just be pointless

Not exactly what you want, but check Sprite Terminator. It does a remote wipe etc.

Hi
Have just had an Email from HTC about HTC mail.
This appears (at first glance) to have what you need
Thanks Dave