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I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle. So far I haven't had the troubles that I have had when I used the cable and cradle. No more inactive activesync, can't synchronize errors, and having to restart activesync every few hours or so.
I managed to have activesync running for 2 days straight without any problems and restart of any sorts. This leads me to beleive that using wifi with activesync is more stable than using a usb/cradle.
My question is, can I completely abandon the USB/cradle when upgrading ROM, app installs, or anything that has to do with using the cradle and usb cables?
I don't know the answer for certain but I should think so.
What I need to know is how to sync using wifi without it trying to access GPRS instead.
Any ideas?
My 2s is configured to access wifi first (I think the setting is under the wifi config). If wifi isn't available, then it tried to access GPRS. My carrier charges an arm and a leg to use gprs, so I never configure the phone to access my carrier's GPRS. I rely on free public WIFI access and my home WIFI access to do all my internet jobs.
You'll still need the USB for ROM updates; everything else you can do over WiFi or BT.
wifi
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
@3waygeek, Thanks as I have not tried update anything since I pay a service to upgrade my things on my PPC. Sprite also does not like to backup via WiFi. I had to connect the PPC to the cradle.
@hoobas, I have WinXp/Sp2 installed. I have not had any problems connecting other than the occasional ActiveSync annoyance when I'm connecting with the USB cable. I'm sorry that I can't help you. I have not experience your problems so I can not give you a diagnosis.
wifi and MS Activsync
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
ActiveSync starts automiatically on USB, serial, and Bluetooth connections. You'll have to use the ActiveSync link located on your PPC to connect to the PC via WiFi. This is assuming that ActiveSync does work on both your PPC and desktop. So it's best to connect to ActiveSync at least once via cradle before going ActiveSync via WiFi.
Only install ActiveSync on either your lappy or your deskop, but not on both. One limitation with ActiveSync is that you can not use more than two partnerships without some fiddling around with your PPC and your networked PC.
About Cradle ActiveSync.
Uninstall ActiveSync -> Reboot PC -> Reinstall Active Sync 3.8 and don't touch any thing or open any programs while installation is in progress.
Mine is working like a charm
nomadman said:
I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle.
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How did you do it?
I've used the search function but I couldn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Dino
OK, got it to work, too. Very nice
But I had to set my Network Connection from "Internet" to "Work".
Is it possible to use both settings? My Wireless LAN connects also
to the internet, so I won't switch everytime I want to sync or surf.
Dino
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hoobas said:
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
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Hi hoobas, how do you configure your laptap wifi for peer-to-peer? (this is quite off topic ) been trying to do this for sometime. thanks
Here is a great site site that might help some of you guys out.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/installation.htm#Installation:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
hoobas said:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
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Thanks a lot how about the settings on the computer side?
Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
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In the network settings of yr phone, enter the ip address of machine you want to sync with as WINS server. That will tell yr phone which machine it has to connect to. You can set up peak and offpeak timings in the mobile schedule of activsync on ye PDA, so that it can sync every 10 or 15 mins .
Sorry if my question is too noobish. I have read so many articles talking about establishing wifi sync between a wifi enabled PPC and a wifi enabled PC, but havent been able to do yet. Do i have to have another software to enable the connection ?
Can any one please explain slowly and in detail how you could do that, i've been searching for quite a long time but still no result. And 1 more question is that after i can sync through wifi between my O22s and my laptop, does it affect the wifi connection of my laptop and my O22s? A bit silly right but i'm a new user and i'm not in IT field also. Thanks for any suggestion from you guys.
@azeemakhtar,
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/multiplepartnerships.htm
@ducga,
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
* The above procedure should be able to get activesync working via wifi as long as there isn't a setting problem in your router managment or firewall.
* The above precedure should work if your are able to connect to the interent on your PPC via wifi.
nomadman said:
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
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I also have to do the following:
3a. Click Start / settings / connections / Network cards
3b. Select Network Adapters
3c. Change 'My network card connects to' from 'The Internet' change to 'Work'
3d. Close, reset (for luck)
3e. Open ActiveSync on your desktop PC, select File / connection settings / and tick allow Network Ethernet !!
4. Now when you click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button - it won't try to use GPRS to connect and WiFi will be listed as your Work connection.
I always have to change my network card settings back to 'The Internet' before I can browse again.
Rich
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azeemakhtar said:
i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
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Go to ActiveSync on your XDA, click tools, options.
It will say "When syncing remotely with a PC Use this PC:"
It should list the network name of the PC you currently have a partnership with. i.e. "TOMSLAPTOP"
Rich
Is there a way to disable the internet passthrough in activesync? I use a remote software that allows me to use my phone on my PC when docked, SOTI pocket controller. So I like being docked at work, however (this is where this question gets weird)... my work has disabled the port to access MSN messenger on our network, I want to be able to sign in from time to time so I thought using my PPC would be great! However the internet passthrough in active sync means that it won't access the MSN messenger port either, because it's using the same network, so if I undock and connect using GPRS I can use messenger, so what I want to do is be docked still but have my device use GPRS internet instead of the passthrough, this way I can sign on to messenger while docked. Does this make sense? Respond if I'm not being clear enough. I have found web versions of messenger that work, it's just too slow for me and gets in the way, if I could use my PPC it would be just perfect! Thanks in advance, it's a weird one so hopefully someone will have a suggestion that will tickle my fancy out there!
I would like to know the answer to this as well. I have GL installed and cannot retrive new messages while my SX66 is docked.
As much knowledge as there is out there, this one seems to have the experts stumped.
Lots of people asking the question on the net and no answers.
I'm surprised no one has replied to this yet.... It's actually pretty easy to fix. Right click the ActiveSync icon in your tray and click connection settings, change "this computer is connected to" from 'the internet' or 'automatic' to work network. Your phone should no longer look for a connection through AS on these settings.
Doesn't work for me. The wireless data connection is immediately terminated on the phone once the USB cable is plugged in, regardless of how the XP ActiveSync software is configured.
That's rather odd, I used to do just that to make my AIM go through my phone rather than the computer while using MyMobiler.
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As much knowledge as there is out there, this one seems to have the experts stumped.
Lots of people asking the question on the net and no answers.
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have you tried the 'This computer is connected to:' and select 'Work Network', in the Connection settings dialogue box?
edit1: wow, typed this weeks ago, Google chrome saved the page till today...
edit2: on your phone, In connection settings in My Work Network, under the Proxy Settings tab, is 'This network connects to the internet' ticked? try un-ticking it if it is...
Work or "The Internet" it doesn't matter what I select on ActiveSync. It still disables the H on my phone as soon as I connect the USB cable.
For connections on my phone, all I have even in the list of connections is MEdia Net. I can't uncheck Internet there or else I wouldn't get Internet while disconnected.
Despite the fact that my only existing connection on the Settings/Connection page is MEdia Net and that only is set for "Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)" I still can only access the Internet through my work server when connected to my work desktop.
I noticed the same behavior when syncing via Bluetooth. As soon as the connection with ActiveSync is established, wireless connectivity is shut off.
My apologies for the kick, but if someone knows the aswer, please enlighten me!
I cannot disable the internet pass-through either, not even when I select "Network (work)" in "This computer is connected to" in the Windows Mobile Device Center (The Vista version of ActiveSync).
I have set-up Exchange on my phone, which connects to domain.com. My Exchange server runs in my network, so when I connect the phone it should connect to 192.168.1.2 instead of domain.com. If it would stay on HSDPA, then the connection would remain OK. Because of this, it won't sinc with my PC either, because it keeps hanging on connecting to ActiveSync (of which the server cannot be resolved).
Many thanks to the person who knows the answer!
This thing is a bigger pain than it should be, that's for sure. I think I got it working - simultaneously syncing via Exchange over GSM and locally through USB (obviously not the same items).
In my setup Contacts, Calendar, E-Mail, and Tasks are using the mobile network to connect to our Exchange server's external Push interface. Notes, Mobile Favorites, Files, and OneNote are syncing through USB or Bluetooth (I tried both) when I connect locally.
I'm currently running Vista on this PC so things might be different on XP or Windows 7. On the PC in Windows Mobile Device Center I enabled "Allow data connections on device when connected to PC" and changed "This computer is connected to:" Work Network.
In Windows Mobile, in the connections manager, edit the existing connection. MEdia Net shouldn't have a proxy set and under the Advanced tab click Select Networks - if the "Programs that automatically connect to a private network" is set to My Work Network then make sure and edit the settings to have "This network connects to the Internet" unchecked. Or alternatively, just change the private network to be Media Net as well. That should do it.
On your pc if you open up ActiveSync and go to file>connection settings and make sure "allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop" is checked you should be able to keep your mobile internet connection up while still connected to a pc.
Dear All
I cannot find the original CD, therefore I cannot install the modem drivers onto my WinXP laptop. The modem drivers are necessary to use my PDA (Orange SPV 3100 - Hermes 100) to connect to Internet via UMTS - HSDPA
Can somebody help me by emailing these drivers ([email protected]) or posting here or attaching somewhere on Internet?
Thanks a lot
Saulo
I was told that modem drivers are the same for different brands, I mean Orange SPV M3100, or HTC TyTN / XDA trion / MDA Vario II / VPA Compact III / Dopod CHT 9000 / Dopod 838 Pro
Thanks and please help
Saulo866
You shouldn't need modem drivers if using a WM6 rom. Am I understanding the problem? The Internet sharing app uses a virtual network driver that works much better than the old modem drivers. And if you aren't using WM6, upgrade to it. The Internet sharing piece alone is worth the trouble.
I belief installing Activesync 4.5 should be sufficient.
Dear All
On PDA side I have an Orange SPV M3100 (Hermes 100) with WM 2006 Professional: CE OS 5.2.1413 build 17741.0.2.1
I am not sure whether this is a cooked rom or shipped one. I am inclined to believe it is a cooker WM06 rom
On laptop side I have
- ActiveSync 4.5.0 build 5096: it works greatly
- winXP SP2
Now my question is: WinXP does not see my Hermes as a 3G UMTS or HSDPA modem. Therefore I am unable to use my Hermes to connect to Internet.
My APN is set correctly, on the Hermes side: I called my UMTS-HSDPA operator and set my device accordingly. But the 3G operator also told me to contact HTC or Orange to download the modem driver to make it accessible by my laptop. ActiveSync 4.5 alone does not suffice, since it is only for sync purposes. In other word currently:
- If my laptop is already connected to Internet (e.g. via LAN or WiFi) then my Hermes can ALSO connect to Internet, via ActiveSync 4.5
- Viceversa, if my Hermes establishes a 3G connection, or GPRS connection, my laptop CANNOT use it to access internet.
If you know how to solve this problem I would greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Saulo
i have winxp pro with AS 4.5 ... and all i have to do is turn on internet sharing on my phone, plug in the cable and im done.. the computer will automatically recognize the phone as a network connection.. and i have tried this on a computer without AS and the computer wouldnt recognize the phone, so it appears that activesync is necessary for sharing (it doesnt sync with internet sharing on, but i believe AS has the drivers that are needed)
By the way I have 2 Italian GSM-UMTS-HSDPA operators: Vodafone and Tim
I have tried. I have set correctly their APN settings: (for tim is ibox.tim.it)
While on Hermes side everything seems fine, (for example Pocket Internet Explorer can open web pages) my laptop cannot use Hermes to access internet, even if ActiveSync connections is established and working (hermes synchronized)
Please help
On Phone goto:
Start ~> Programs ~> Internet Sharing
you should have no problems.
saulo866 said:
By the way I have 2 Italian GSM-UMTS-HSDPA operators: Vodafone and Tim
I have tried. I have set correctly their APN settings: (for tim is ibox.tim.it)
While on Hermes side everything seems fine, (for example Pocket Internet Explorer can open web pages) my laptop cannot use Hermes to access internet, even if ActiveSync connections is established and working (hermes synchronized)
Please help
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on laptop clik activesync icon in the bar and from "setting connections" disable "allow uSB connection"
then do on ppc what Custel abowe wrote
Thanks to all of you!
Following your suggestions now I can connect using my USB link, between Hermes 100 and my laptop, running WinXP.
I did it by first upgrading to Schap WM06 3.3c
Then making the few steps outlined above
My next question is: was anyone succesfull in using Bluetooth, instead of USB link?
I mean, is it possible to access Internet, via Hermes 100 3G-UMTS-HSDPA connection, by connecting laptop and Hermes via Bluetooth?
Thanks again
Saulo866
By the way I noticed that if you use activesync USB link (you do not need to disable USB connection!) that what happens is:
- if you browse internet in your laptop by using Hermes 100 as a UMTS/HSDPA modem the syncing between laptop and Hermes goes down, stops: the device works as a modem but any synchronization stops working. In other words you cannot perform any synchronization (via activesync) or any other operation, like file transfer, while using activesync as a usb-type-link between laptop and Hermes.
Am I right?
Why is that? I mean why cannot I sync my device (or transfer files) and at the same time use my hermes as a 3g-modem for my laptop?
Thanks
Saulo
any clue why this happens? I mean why you cannot sync and browse internet at the same time?
After connecting to the internet via internet sharing, I re-enabled "Allow USB connections" in AS4.5 nut it still wouldn't sync. I guess at the moment we have to be contented with internet sharing w/o being able to sync Hermes and our computer.
A bit OT but has anyone successfully connected to the internet via internet sharing in Vista?
Yes
Yes I have been using Internet Sharing with windows vista successfully. Once it connects there are no problems BUT it doesn always readily connect and often requires a software reset .
I have WM6 Schap's 3.57 on my hermes 300. The internet sharing works great but when I've disconnected my GSM connection while I'm connected to a Wi-Fi network and I try to use "Internet Sharing" I get the message on my phone: "Cannot connect. Ensure that your phone is correctly configured, service is available, and that flight mode is turned off before trying again."
Probably WM thinks I'm in flight mode altough Wi-Fi is connected.
Is there a way around this?
How can you tell if the phone is using the WiFi connection instead of HSPDA/GPRS/EDGE? (Roaming is a bit expensive)
The USB-modem driver worked with WM5. When I start the "Modem Link" program, windows says it found new hardware. I've installed the driver I used with WM5. I tried using it by calling *99# but it didln't work. Should I call a different number with WM6?
Anyone the same problems and/or solutions?
It does work great indeed.. Internet connection sharing..
Except.. when you want to connect to a VPN.
I never had issues with using WM5/Black as modem. But now.. in the HTC Wm6 (official one) only Internet Sharing is left.
Does anyone have a solution for the VPN connection?
Thanks all!
Arnie
saulo866 said:
Thanks to all of you!
Following your suggestions now I can connect using my USB link, between Hermes 100 and my laptop, running WinXP.
I did it by first upgrading to Schap WM06 3.3c
Then making the few steps outlined above
My next question is: was anyone succesfull in using Bluetooth, instead of USB link?
I mean, is it possible to access Internet, via Hermes 100 3G-UMTS-HSDPA connection, by connecting laptop and Hermes via Bluetooth?
Thanks again
Saulo866
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I have successfully connected to the interrnet via the blutetooth connection.
In your Hermes, select "Bluetooth PAN' instead of USB under the "Internet Sharing" "PC Connection".
In your PC, click on the "Join a Persoonal Area Network" under the bluetooth option and slect your device and you are done.
PS: Your device must be paired first.
I've had the same issue when connecting to my companies VPN, I had to connect to the Tytn via Internet Sharing via Bluetooth to use the VPN.
arnoutboer said:
It does work great indeed.. Internet connection sharing..
Except.. when you want to connect to a VPN.
I never had issues with using WM5/Black as modem. But now.. in the HTC Wm6 (official one) only Internet Sharing is left.
Does anyone have a solution for the VPN connection?
Thanks all!
Arnie
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I purchased a laptop today and DID NOT install active sync on it...when i attempt to tether it with my touch pro2, the internet connection breaks after about 2 mins constantly...im using the internet sharing app to connect...
what can i do to get a longer lasting connection...do i need to install active sync on the laptop??? little help...???
Thanks
Do you have the stock Tmo USA rom on your phone? Or, have you done any major tweaks, etc., that might have messed with some connection setting?
Are you using a T-Mobile "smartphone" data plan and is the data connection APN set to epc.tmobile.com (or internet2.voicestream.com)?
Why not install Activesync (or Windows Mobile Device Center if you're using a Vista or W7)? Is your laptop a Mac?
If not a Mac, then yes, install Activesync or WMDC. That's the standard way for a Windows Mobile device to connect to a Windows PC.
It does seem strange that you can connect for a brief time, then lose it -- seems like it would either work or not...??
THANKS FOR THE REPLY...!!!
yes i have the stock rom...havent done any major changes other than install sbp mobile shell...my apn is epc.tmobile.com...i am using a pc with vista...
I found the solution...!!! In the internet sharing app, my default network connection was "T-Mobile Internet". Once I switched it to "T-Mobile Data", I got a constant connection...Surfed the net for over 3hrs last night....!!! Thank God for HTC, WM & bittorrent
I've just bought a defy, but i can't get tethering to work. When i select tethering in the options and connect to my pc i cannot connec to the internet as i cannot find the connection. On m old sony ericcson phone this could be done via the sony ericcson software but so far i have been unable to find anything like that for the defy.
I have a laptop with windows xp and a desktop with windows7.
what exacly are you trying.?
connecting the internet from your pc by your phone, or from your phone by pc.?
wifi tehering are actualy used to connect your pc/notebook to internet using the 3G Internet-Connection from the phone.
-> http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
the other way is, to create a adhoc network (share internet-connection) on your pc.
-> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/setup/adhoc.mspx
hope it helps.
I use easytether, free from the market, to connect my debian laptop to the internet with no problems.
Sent from my MB525
What im trying to do is connect my phone to a P.C and then use the Defy's 3G internet connection on my P.C.
Theres an option in the phones settings labelled as Internet tethering, this says "Share your phones Internet connection over USB & Bluetooth."
When ticked it says something about choosing your phone from a list of network services in your computers network settings.
and that is as far as i can get.
Does the computer in question have wi-fi?
Because, if so, the mobile hotspot functionality might be easier to implement.
Easytether works great for me. Get the app on market, works for unrooted too.
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