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TMobile WM2003 Upgrade Issues

I was wondering if anyone else was having the following issues with the new T-Mobile upgrade, and if anyone had any ideas on how to resolve them:
* The phone turns on sporadically when it is in my pocket. I think this normally happens when it tries to connect to GPRS
* The phone doesn't give me notification of my voice mail all the time
Thanks,
Dan
http://envoisolutions.com/people/dan

I'm seeing #1. In my case it looks like it's every time that the Inbox checks the email. Beta Version 4.00.16 didn't do this (so I might go back).
I had #2 occasionally even with PPC2002. Do you go in and out of coverage areas? This can cause problems, I think.

tmo never fails....
the ghost affect was an issue with the previous tmo betas...but it was not a prblm with att's latest rom
I have a different issue with my newly upgraded rom from tmo:
everything works fine
...except :shock:
wen i press the power button to turn the xda back on, it wont do anything at all
the button works to turn back light off, and to turn the unit off, but not back on
Im about to try with sum other Roms, but has any one eperienced this issue, or might know what might be causing it? (additional soft)?

Memory Leak
I have a memory leak that I can not trace. I have a cooked TMO .16 release radditionally running MS Voice, SharpDeck Sharp Vault, Pocket Streets, Cadenza mNotes.
I slowly but steadilt lose memory unitl I have none left and now have none left.
I am going back to the ATT version (but cooked)
Macudc

Upgrade
Says no connection w/ USB and won't go any further. Any suggestions?

Re: Upgrade
scottyjchef said:
Says no connection w/ USB and won't go any further. Any suggestions?
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I had to restart my computer to solve this... Sometimes, you need to restart the XDA also.
MrDollyMaker

Upgraded Driver
If you allow the TMOBILE upgrade to install the new updates for you, it also installs a new driver in to your XDA that illiminates ALL upgrade problems from what I have seen.
MrDollyMaker

Upgrade
I have done a hard reset on the phone and I run into the problem when I first start the upgrade. It goes through an initial setup of "unpacking" and after that is when I get the error on the pc. The device connects fine with ActiveSync.

I'm having the turn back on issue, and also some times my text messages don't seem to come through.
I was thinking that maybe when it turns itself on, it's a text message trying to come through or something.
My texts end up coming through in a group!

yep, same here on the sms and missed calls...
i got voice mail, from 3 days ago, show up today!
and.. sms from midnight lastnight, came today at 5pm
although, i DID make fone calls this morning, so... the out of range thingie dont apply here..
also... i cant print to IR anymore!

I just upgraded with T-Mobile.16 ROM and Radio. The only bug im experiencing is when I receive a new sms, and I read it already, the notification of "1 unread SMS" on the Today panel won't go away.
I'm also having a hard time setting up my connection settings (MMS and GRPS) for the advanced section of the connection won;t show the proxy settings. Any1 who has a solution for this? I'm usign the mobile in the Philippines that's why I need to setup the proxy per connection and not per connection group.

Upgrade
Nevermind! I hate when it's something simple like disabling the antivirus on the pc. DUH!! :roll: I have yet to get any sms. Will keep watching :shock:

ntabikha said:
yep, same here on the sms and missed calls...
i got voice mail, from 3 days ago, show up today!
and.. sms from midnight lastnight, came today at 5pm
although, i DID make fone calls this morning, so... the out of range thingie dont apply here..
also... i cant print to IR anymore!
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I am yet to received any errors like this. The only time I seem to have the XDA turn on is when the reception fringes and it hunts down better reception. It only takes a moment of poor reception to interfear with how it receives a message and than the system waits several hours sometimes to send it.
T-Mobile as with many other carriers like Verison and AT&T state to excpet up to 24 hours for SMS messages to get through to your phone.
MrDollyMaker

Re: tmo never fails....
JUICEe said:
the ghost affect was an issue with the previous tmo betas...but it was not a prblm with att's latest rom
I have a different issue with my newly upgraded rom from tmo:
everything works fine
...except :shock:
wen i press the power button to turn the xda back on, it wont do anything at all
the button works to turn back light off, and to turn the unit off, but not back on
Im about to try with sum other Roms, but has any one eperienced this issue, or might know what might be causing it? (additional soft)?
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Yes, I had this issue today and I then unistalled the KSE TrueFax Trial (which I installed yesterday) and now the power button is working correctly again. The only way to power up the XDA was to do a soft-reset.
HTH...

i didnt think xda 1 had fax capabilities! atleast I couldnt get them to work, could u?

ntabikha said:
i got voice mail, from 3 days ago, show up today!
and.. sms from midnight lastnight, came today at 5pm
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FYI, I had the same problems with the XDA-developers Special Edition ROM. I go into many building where I get no signal at all. My guess is that, if the SMS message fails, the T-Mobile network will retry it, but sometimes not for quite a long time.

Re: tmo never fails....
JUICEe said:
the ghost affect was an issue with the previous tmo betas...but it was not a prblm with att's latest rom
I have a different issue with my newly upgraded rom from tmo:
everything works fine
...except :shock:
wen i press the power button to turn the xda back on, it wont do anything at all
the button works to turn back light off, and to turn the unit off, but not back on
Im about to try with sum other Roms, but has any one eperienced this issue, or might know what might be causing it? (additional soft)?
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I have a similar problem. When the device powers off automatically (after about 3min) I can't get it to come back on. Doing a soft reset actually makes it do a hard reset. Also, while it's in this "coma" state, I can receive a call and hear the person on the other end, but they only hear a ring and can't hear me.
T-mobile had no clue what to do... as usual.

o2 orbit - problem with telephone function

Hi,
i have a o2 orbit with the original german o2 wm6 firmware. Now i have the following problem:
After 1..5 day(s) the telephone function don't work. At this point nobody can call me and i can't call out. Also GPRS don't work. The problem is that the green LED is still blinking and the start display looks normal too.
I can turn off the telephone function. But it is not possible to restart the telephone function again.
After a soft-reset the telephone function works normal for the next time periode.
Does anybody has the same problem or a bugfix?

I've got the same problem since today...
Yesterday, may be it starts, because i was not able to connect Internet by GPRS. First, the problem was happened, when I tried to connect O2 Gprs APN internet, what is preconfigured or APN (Zugriffspunktname) surfo2, thats preferred to my datapack, only in roamingnet (TD1), then even in O2's own net.
then the Phone did not work.
I've got XDA Orbit with WM6.
I called O2's Data support for that problem, they said, I should try to do an Hardreset, after save up all my configuration and keep on watching, if it happens again.
For Hardreset, look at your Manual.
...I'll tell some more about, if it works or not in a few days, when I'm shure it will.
If not, I'll call O2 again (Must) and write theyre answer here.

After Hardreset, I've got no Problems until now!
May be, it was a Problem by trying Windows Live Messenger, because he is connected to the Internet whole time. Are GPRS and Calls at the same time possible? I think, normally it should!? but not shure..
The second thing, I've tried, was the Touch flo alpha...
it did not work on my device, so i made uninstall. After that, theese Problems did come.

Is it network, WM6, or the unit problem?

The problem is one of the most annoying ones you can have: it appears only from time to time and you don't know when and even when it does you don't notice.
Simply my phone is not accessible for others even it shows full range and so on. The message "...the phone is switched off...". This problem occurs in as far as I remember 3 releases of ROMS (full, vanillas, etc). The radio ROM was also changed. I don't remember having such issue in early WM6 or in original 2005.
Since it's not related directly to any of the releases I post it as a new thread.
Now I have 3 options:
1. Downgrade to 2005
2. Throw the unit through the window, wait until end of contract and buy an iPhone
3. Try to fight with T-Mobile UK - which is not really an option since I just recovered from fighting with Orange for over a month
Does any of you experienced such problem?
Any known issues with downgrading to 2005 like ISPL required before flashing original ROM?
Any suggestions?

Adigital said:
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Any known issues with downgrading to 2005 like ISPL required before flashing original ROM?
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Well, I got the answer - couldn't wait and did the downgrade using original ROM. If anyone interested it went without problems. No ISPL needed. Connected, fired-up the exe file and worked OK.
I'll see how about the availability problem.

Ok, seems that it's only me having the conversation ;o)
I apologize for the thread location - it doesn't seem to be related strictly to WM6 anymore as I...
...installed WM5 and did some tests:
(I have voice mail switched off)
- Call waiting enabled = no calls allowed when GPRS active
- Call waiting disabled = no calls when transferring data (large file) but received when no transfer
- Used W660i SonyEricsson handset - could receive calls regardless of GPRS activity
Rang T-Mobile tech support where they told me that this is network feature that when internet connection is active no calls are allowed and since my voicemail is turned off all callers get message that my phone is switched off. In the light of GPRS specification and my tests this is a bull****.
Now I'm asking anyone on UK T-Mobile Web'n'Walk and who wants to help - please do such test. Just try to call your number from different phone when opening a web-page.
This is pretty important to me - I need internet on the move and don't want to get rid of my MDA.
Thanks in advance!

Hi there,
I'm on T-Mobile UK too and I ran some tests myself and found that you are absolutely correct. When you transfer data you cannot receive phone calls.
I've got an O2 device with me I can do some more tests on and I'll also try and borrow my Wife's Samsung and test that too. I'll post my findings here.
Cheers
Alex

ok, i've just tested this on an O2 3G device and there was no problem, next to try a none windows mobile t-mobile phone.

seems this problem has been around for while and on other networks.
http://www.freenfo.net/mobile/archive/index-t-64022.html

ok, final test and conclusion.
I tested the same o2 phone as above but in a NON 3g area (i.e. gprs only) and found the exact same issue.
conclusion: this seems to affect all types of phone and multiple networks but only when using gprs NOT 3g.
I'm suprised we havent heard more about this problem.
cheers
Alex

Thank you Alex very much for your help.
I did some research on the topic last night and found the same info as guys in the thread your linked. It must be that T-Mobile UK operates in NOM-2, which allows to suspend GPRS session only when no data is transferred. When packets are transmitted the device doesn't 'see' incoming calls as it's 'busy' with dealing with the packets. NOM-1 is 'able' to encapsulate information about incoming call into one of the packets and the device is notified about - so it can react, suspend the transmission and pick up the call.
The fact is that our MDA/Artemis uses Class B of GPRS which doesn't allow simultaneous CDA/GPRS at the same time. Even if it can suspend active data transfer it is the network that has to support that feature.
What I must notice is that I had lot more problems wiht this when I was using WM6. It seems that there were some packets transmitted by the system or something. I had my mail set to check servers every 15 mins at the beginning but lately ony once an hour or two. Other soft that could transmit anything was Weather module from SPB or Touch. Now when I'm on WM5 and was checking the issue during loading a page I was unavailable but as soon as a page was completely loaded my phone was accessible back.
My surprise is that if the 'issue' seems to be quite normal and there is nothing to do about it why I couldn't find any info about it here. Doesn't it affect anyone of our community?
I may be wrong with the WM6 expirience but still. If WM6 works fine in that respect it must have happened that someone missed a call when browsing the net.

i hadnt noticed to be honest

mugglesquop said:
i hadnt noticed to be honest
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Did you try ringing your phone when it was loading a long page or downloading a file?

TBH I think I've noticed it just as much on WM6 as I did (or didn't) on WM5, I think I put these odd voice mails turning up down to weird WM issues! Now I know the truth though.
Obv. there isn't a lot we can do about this and I'm not prepared to turn off my Windows Live Mail or my direct push. I think we just have to wait until our contracts are up for renewal and get over to a 3G device - I'm liking the look of the Touch Cruise myself, or the Touch Dual if I want that keyboard back and by the time my contract is up I think they should be on T-Mob UK.

does the same thing happen in Edge areas or as that rolls out will the problem disappear?

I'm not sure about how EDGE works but the problem affects GPRS rather than 3G due to the fact that GPRS and the incoming call are submitted alongside each other and 3G is seperate. I don't think t-mob uk have edge running yet so I can't test, perhpas some else can test for us.

Bro.. My first 3rd party ROM is the Touch 3.0.. and yes.. my connnection did go off once a while (no bars as well).. that was kinda irritating. I have to go to connection manager and toggle my data connection or something like that, before my phone will get the GSM signal.
And yea.. the original WM5 and WM6 have no such issues.. I wonder if this is because of the new radio version..

Callers can't hear me

So recently I've been having this weird issue where callers call and I'll answer but they can't hear me. It happens when I call out too. I'm not using any headsets or anything, but it seemed like it started happening when I started turning on bluetooth and leaving it on. But if I have my headset on, that part works fine, they can hear me. I had a custom rom that I cooked myself that seemed to work fine until then.
So I figure I'd ditch my own rom thinking maybe I screwed something up while cooking it, so now I'm using PDAVIET DV's most recent rom. I tested it all yesterday and it seemed fine, but then that night I got a few calls that couldn't hear me again.
This morning things were fine again, after I shut it off then back on. I made a lot of calls out and in from another cell phone, and it worked fine. Then while I was waiting for a phone interview, it didn't work again. Is anyone else having this issue? Or does anyone know why it's happening?
I'm starting to think may it's a sleep issue, because the only thing my phone did in the time between my this morning's testing and the phone interview, was it sat idle in standby mode.
Any Ideas?

Which radio are you using and who is your carrier?

What OS are you using? Does a soft reset fix it?

Zzan said:
Which radio are you using and who is your carrier?
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1.54.30.10 AT&T
ai6908 said:
What OS are you using? Does a soft reset fix it?
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My own custom WM6.1 19209 rom, but also happens on DVH 19701 also. Soft reset doesnt seem to help, but power off, and back on does help until phone goes back to standby.

bjevers said:
I just realized I have a sound issue also. I almost always use my bluetooth headset, but yesterday I tried just talking on the phone and the other person could not hear me. I reset the phone and it worked again, but only for a while. I noticed though that when it stops sending my voice to the other person, I can still hear myself in my earpiece. I even loaded Voice Recorder after it quit sending my voice over the phone and it recorded my voice just fine, so I know this is not a hardware issue. Has anyone else experienced this?
EDIT - I did a soft reset, and it didn't fix the problem. I disabled 3G, soft reset, and it worked again for now. Could this be radio related?
EDIT 2 - Disabling 3G wasn't the answer. I did that again and it didn't work this time. Might try a different ROM and see if the issue persists.
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sniveri said:
This sound issue appeared to me after I installed google maps or new dialpad. I can call to people but after I while talking sound is fading and in the end others can not hear me but I can hear them. Soft reset helps for a while but this issue appears again in next call after few minutes.
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bjevers said:
Here's what I have installed:
Arcsoft MMS 5.0.31.11
Total Commander
Hexic
Touchpal
Coreplayer
Memmaid
Garmin Mobile XT
SiriusWM5
moBlue
HTC Album
HTC ConnectionSetup
HTC Voice Recorder (installed to test that mic was still working)
Listpro
Kyphur Comm Button Toggle Fix
Live Search
Mortscript
Newsgator Go
Resco Radio
Schaps Advanced Config
SKTools
SPB Suite (Diary, Mobile Shell, Phone Suite, Wallet, Weather) All newest versions
Sprite Backup
Vito FunContact
Windows Live 10.6.0034.0800
I removed Google Maps and SRS WOW after reading others posting in the thread that caused them problems. I have not been able to test if it is fixed yet.
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Ok just consolidating our issue into my original thread from last week.
I've resorted to not installing all my usual software, and only have this installed so far:
Schap's 2G Dialer
Schap's Advanced Configuration Tool
6 Button Comm Manager
HTC Home Plugin
ELF Calculator skin
Arcsoft MMS 5.0.31.11
HTC Connection Setup
no2chem nueLED
And so far (for two days) I haven't had any issues... here's the software I have yet to install that I usually install:
ATIFix
Cyberon VoiceCommander or MS Voice Command (thought it was one of these but it turned out not)
GoogleMaps
MS Office 2007
WindowsLive10.6.0034.0800
SRS_WOWHD_bt_fixed
TCMPv0.81
FlashVideoBundle
I was thinking maybe it was because of bluetooth being on or something too.

SRS WowHD do that issue. Download another version of that program and phone will be all right.

Mine has gone all day and it seems to be working. I think it's the SRS_WOWHD_bt_fixed cab like wikiri mentioned.

I have flashed official AT&T-ROM, then hardSPLv7, then PDAViet 19900-rom and after that radio rom 1.47.30.10. Mic works sometimes but most of the time it does not. I do not have any issues with roms no hard-reset or anything else wierd but this mic thing.
My PDA is just repaired and switchboard has been replaced and some other components. They said everything should be working and it is tested.
I have installed only ConnectionSettings.cab and latest live-messenger. Mic does not work on phone calls or when recording something.
So could this still be hardware issue?

bjevers said:
Mine has gone all day and it seems to be working. I think it's the SRS_WOWHD_bt_fixed cab like wikiri mentioned.
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My phone is doing the same thing.
How do you fix the SRS_WOWHD_bt_fixed cab?
Is it a patch or a setting you can manually change in the Phone.

M89 disconnects voice calls. New radio ROM ???

Hi Experts.
I have a M89 WM6.0 china phone. (3G slim look version of the M88)
(CE OS 5.2.1711 build 18165.0.5.0)
When I pick up an incomming voice call, it usually gets disconnected after approx. 30 seconds. It also happens on outgoing calls.
Sometimes the call can last more than 5 minutes.
Other times the call is connected but no sound can be heard at both ends.
I have done a master reset and re-installed WM6.0.
I have tried to un-install the "Iphone skin" and S2U2-software and just running normal WM6.0 . But nothing helps.
The SMS and MMS feature works 100% OK.
The phone looses the GSM-signal completely, when the disconnect happens.
It is as the GSM-module reboots and re-registers on the network.
I have seen the SimTKUI-applikation is run after a disconection.
I have tried with two different SIM-cards. Same problem.
I don't know the current radio-ROM version, but is there a new version I can try ?
Or perhaps upgrade it to WM6.1 ??
Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
STHA

Additional info
Hi
I found the program GSMTest.exe in the windows folder.
Can I use that to test the GSM-radio ?
Stha

I'm having a similar problem. M89 attempting to connect to US provider. Any advice would be appreciated.

Hi all.
I finally fixed my M89. It turns out the phone crashes and/or disconnects when the GSM reception is bad/lost. And it is really bad with this phone. The internal antenna is a piece of foil located in the buttom of the phone. Right where you hold your hand when using the phone. This makes the reception really bad.
So I took the phone apart and soldered in a DIY-antenna and put 2 pcs. of these "booster antenna stickers" from Ebay inside the phone.
Since then I never had a crash or dropped call.
Regards
Stha

can you post pics
can you post pics on this having the same problem with my m89 does this cause a device.exe error