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Swedish TyTN will receive free WM6 upgrade!

According to http://www.qtek.se/sweden/nyheter/senaste_nytt.aspx a free upgrade to WM6 will be made available during the summer for the following HTC branded devices:
HTC Advantage (X7500)
HTC S620
HTC TyTN
HTC P4350
HTC P3300

bamse said:
According to http://www.qtek.se/sweden/nyheter/senaste_nytt.aspx a free upgrade to WM6 will be made available during the summer for the following HTC branded devices:
HTC Advantage (X7500)
HTC S620
HTC TyTN
HTC P4350
HTC P3300
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sweet, would be good to see a HTC WM6. so far all ive heard of is a cingular WM6 release for free.

mrvanx said:
sweet, would be good to see a HTC WM6. so far all ive heard of is a cingular WM6 release for free.
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If that information was true for all TyTN devices, that would be great news. Operating my TyTN with Bebe´s WM6 for one week now, I can say that there are worlds between the TyTN under WM5 and WM6:
With WM6
- the TyTN works much faster
- bluetooth inkl. AD2P works stable
- TomTom 6 works stable (without hanging)
- a nice VoIP integration comes along
- TCPMP works stable
In my eyes the TyTN becomes a perfect little tool with WM6 installed on it!
I´s really appreciate a free WM6 upgrade from HTC - it would perfectly fit the TyTN´s hardware.
Lumi74

mrvanx said:
sweet, would be good to see a HTC WM6. so far all ive heard of is a cingular WM6 release for free.
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Oh, I forgot to mention, www.qtek.se is the official distributor for HTC branded devices in Sweden. Info is official and straight from the source.
So, you might want to rephrase that to "...will be good to see a HTC WM6". :-D

When is it summer in Sweden?

jag121 said:
When is it summer in Sweden?
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somting like 2 och 3 mhonts from now

jag121 said:
When is it summer in Sweden?
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We're on the northern hemisphere, so it would be when it is winter in Australia.
BTW, "Juni/Juli" translates to "June/July".

jag121 said:
When is it summer in Sweden?
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Between June 25th and July 15th ;-)

GeirFrimann said:
Between June 25th and July 15th ;-)
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For me it's between 9th July to 6th August
The Tytyn uppgrade in our language is indeed very promising for os swede's
MVH Ludwig

I also heard that Vodafone Germany are going to release WM6 updates for Hermes and Herald...

We get the same update i Denmark. BUT. I dont really think that the rom will be any better than the ones we get here. Why? Because when the official releases come I am must certain that some of the Chefs in here will cook some improved roms on top of the official release.
If we look at the M$ history on software - there will be things to improve...hehe.
But - thats my opinion. What are yours?

Martinhdk said:
We get the same update i Denmark. BUT. I dont really think that the rom will be any better than the ones we get here. Why? Because when the official releases come I am must certain that some of the Chefs in here will cook some improved roms on top of the official release.
If we look at the M$ history on software - there will be things to improve...hehe.
But - thats my opinion. What are yours?
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Better?
I don't know.
But unlike the cooked ROMs it is not illegal, does not void my warranty and has full support from HTC.

HTC will Not release WM6 for P3600!

http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/press/WM6_statement_v6.pdf

we might get it through dopod

torquefever said:
we might get it through dopod
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Or from XDA-DEV

shayd said:
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/press/WM6_statement_v6.pdf
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Well the fact that the P3300 will be upgraded and the P3600 won't is disappointing to say the least!

I just came on to say exactly the same thing, surely the Trinity is a much more capable device for WM6, and newer. I think HTC made a bit of a dumb decision there.

anonimo said:
Well the fact that the P3300 will be upgraded and the P3600 won't is disappointing to say the least!
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- Will other devices be added? Potentially. We’re in constant discussions with our operator partners, and if they’re seeing significant demand from their customers for a specific device then we will always consider it.
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I think we still have a hope :/

Don't know, I think the fact an older model was mentioned, might be a hint.

KaYs3r said:
I think we still have a hope :/
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My P3600 is not operator branded so I don't see how discussing with operators could give more hopes....
I think the meaning of that sentence is "if Operator X is willing to pay then we will support them to produce their WM6 customised version".

anonimo said:
My P3600 is not operator branded so I don't see how discussing with operators could give more hopes....
I think the meaning of that sentence is "if Operator X is willing to pay then we will support them to produce their WM6 customised version".
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But if a version of WM6 exists, it's easier to adapt it to unbranded devices (I think)

- Will other devices be added?
Potentially. We’re in constant discussions with our operator partners, and if they’re seeing significant demand from their customers for a specific device then we will always consider it.
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So... don't complain here in the forum! Go to HTC, your operator and so on and MAKE PRESSURE!
good luck

jacare said:
So... don't complain here in the forum! Go to HTC, your operator and so on and MAKE PRESSURE!
good luck
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I'm not complaining, my device is unbranded

Just sent a mail asking them if they are going to release for p3600 or not.

It really is strange that HTC would release a WM6 upgrade for P3300 and not for P3600. Maybe it has something to do with the GPS? Although I would think it doesn't, since an official upgrade with GPS already came out.
Anyway, the file says it's not the final list of devices that will be able to upgrade. Hopefully, we will see an official WM6 on our Trinity.

Petition for HTC to release WM6 for P3600
Please sign
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/P3600UpgradetoWM6/index.html
Thank you

amiskwia said:
It really is strange that HTC would release a WM6 upgrade for P3300 and not for P3600. Maybe it has something to do with the GPS? Although I would think it doesn't, since an official upgrade with GPS already came out.
Anyway, the file says it's not the final list of devices that will be able to upgrade. Hopefully, we will see an official WM6 on our Trinity.
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My guess is that they spent a lot of resources on getting the much desired ROM update for GPS out that they are putting off the WM6 ROM until later.

anonimo said:
Well the fact that the P3300 will be upgraded and the P3600 won't is disappointing to say the least!
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I can understand that decision but don't approve it. For the P3300 they don't have a succesor because of the integrated SIRFIII. I don't approve it because my opinion is that the P3600 has been dropped into the market when they knew WM6 was coming too. Just like the PC's sold after november 2006 with Windows XP, you'll get an upgrade for Vista.
They should give us a clean quality WM6 ROM and I'm sure some in this forum can make a much better one from that one

for italian ppl: they should make pressure on TIM...

xboss said:
Please sign
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/P3600UpgradetoWM6/index.html
Thank you
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What is this for cheat? Pay to put your name on a list?????
Send a mail to HTC for free instead.

When they ask you to pay, your name is already added...
I don't give them any cents, and my name is in the list. I checked it just after not havind paid

I send them email yesterday but without reply yet, maybe they don't know either :-D

No official wm6 for the Trinity

Hi,now it's sure,the Trinity will not benefit upgrade with the official wm6 rom.For info,read here

Check this out
http://www.dopodasia.com/global/hke/news/20070503_Dopod_WM6_upgrade.html

I 've already read this, but i think it's not for Htc Europe.

I donno where I've read it but I remember that dopod will upgrade the 3600 to wm6
Edit sorry losai already mention it

It's an old news you've got "Marcdu81" (april) !! Maybe the petition will have an effect !!

This is old news man! HTC already stated that if demand was high they would change views. I will not even bother posting the threads, go search yourself. Think before you post!

Sorry guys,but i've Phone to Htc France and they confirm : No wm6 for Trinity : I ask him this question : Why ? I wait again the answer !

I think you can wait a long time for nothing...There is no reason except "marketing" !!

Marcdu81 said:
Sorry guys,but i've Phone to Htc France and they confirm : No wm6 for Trinity : I ask him this question : Why ? I wait again the answer !
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You don't need a ROM from HTC. You can load the Dopod ROM to your device when it is released. If you need a French ROM, I'm sure that someone here will make one from the original Dopod D810 WM6 ROM.

i have an official email from Dopod Australia saying that they will be releasing a WM6 gps version soon (in the next couple of months).

Matterhorn said:
You don't need a ROM from HTC. You can load the Dopod ROM to your device when it is released. If you need a French ROM, I'm sure that someone here will make one from the original Dopod D810 WM6 ROM.
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Not quite the same getting your ROM from a company that re-badges these devices. I for one am way too lazy to change everything (boot splash etc) in the upcoming Dopod release to make it exactly like HTC.
I think a boycott of HTC phones is way overdue. Eten anyone?

forcedalias said:
Not quite the same getting your ROM from a company that re-badges these devices.
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Well, actually they are the same company now.

forcedalias said:
I think a boycott of HTC phones is way overdue. Eten anyone?
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Whilst I sympathise with you - judging by recent reviews I think you should be careful what you wish for...

No longer a product
If you look on the HTC website. The Trinity P3600 is not even listed as a product anymore.....

jmermel said:
If you look on the HTC website. The Trinity P3600 is not even listed as a product anymore.....
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huh?
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_p3600.htm

MontAlbert said:
i have an official email from Dopod Australia saying that they will be releasing a WM6 gps version soon (in the next couple of months).
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it has been months. dopod aus never got the wm5 gps rom. i don't know why they are taking so long... probably because customer support doesn't make them money. even o2 was faster in releasing wm6 to atom life (and the support is crap, i've had 2 o2's)
by the time they release wm6 with gps rom, the d810, wm6 and even maybe gps will be obsolete, and we will all have a new device.

Matterhorn said:
Well, actually they are the same company now.
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I know, but then... that's even more a reason to release it if one of your children companies is about to beat you to it.
Call me picky, but I want all the ROM version information/splash/logos etc all to be HTC.
HTC seems to have some automated response for my questions, even if you ask WHY the trinity ain't on the list of phones expecting an update, they send a link to the press release.
Growing a little tired of HTC lately, they're even removing the infrared port from their trinity-successor, Kaiser. What will I do with my $40 worth of TV remote software? Damn it!

forcedalias said:
Growing a little tired of HTC lately, they're even removing the infrared port from their trinity-successor, Kaiser. What will I do with my $40 worth of TV remote software? Damn it!
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I doubt if Kaiser will be released shortly - It has a Qualcomm chip in it, see http://www.boygeniusreport.com/gallery/handsets/htc-kaiser-unboxing/?pid=668#picture_nav
The US ITC has banned imports on phones with Qualcom chip with immediate effect. See http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/08/business/08phone-web.html

See below - not listed as product by HTC
MAK11 said:
huh?
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_p3600.htm
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http://www.htc.com/product/03-products.htm

jmermel said:
http://www.htc.com/product/03-products.htm
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looks like htc won·t release wm6 for p3600

HY Guys.I HAVED ASKED THE:
hi.First of all sorry for my bad english since I
am an spanish user.My problem is that I do not understand why HTC wont release a wm6 for the P3600 since this device doesen? work verry well whit the actual released version of wm5.For all the oder new version of pda? HTC
have relesed an wm6 but not for P3600.I am a little mad sice this device
is not verry cheap you know and I can not enjoy of wm6.Thank you
WELL THEY ANSWER ME:
Hello Sir,
I understand, but apparently their decision has been taken, they
confirmed it to us (at the support centre) last week.
I'm forwarding your request and disappointment now.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please
do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
SO WHAT DOES THIS MEEN NO OFFICIAL WM6 FOR THE P3600?

Would be kinda weird. I have a Herald, and that's a phone with a bit lesser functionality, apart from the hardware keyboard. The P3600 deserves a WM6 update just as much as the other current-generation HTC phones.

YEP
Yes This Is What I Have Told Them And They Answer Me That Thig.so It Seems That Will Have To Use This Great Versions Of Wm6 That We Have Here In Xda Developars

I´m sure HTC complains about this website,but thank to our rom cooks my wifi works because with their flipping wm5 it never did and their support didn´t know what to do.
To tell you the truth...who cares if they don´t release a wm6 version,because if they do it,the new release would like the ones released by Dopod,same green and ****ty dialpad,windows messenger and apps that most of us can careless.

Well dta1974 you are write ho needs their wm6 rom when here we have the best for the Trinity.

dta1974 said:
I´m sure HTC complains about this website,but thank to our rom cooks my wifi works because with their flipping wm5 it never did and their support didn´t know what to do.
To tell you the truth...who cares if they don´t release a wm6 version,because if they do it,the new release would like the ones released by Dopod,same green and ****ty dialpad,windows messenger and apps that most of us can careless.
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..agree may be I will use a cooked rom, but it could be interesting to know how they will make tomtom installable on wm6.

dodba said:
..agree may be I will use a cooked rom, but it could be interesting to know how they will make tomtom installable on wm6.
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TomTom is installable on WM6 and Traffic info works with for example .mUn. 2.1 TE (which is also WM6).
Since DOPOD is releasing the official ROMs it became a mess for TomTom. First with the .17 version (and cooked ROMs based on that version like
INDIGO Lite) which changed the DEVICE ID and now with the .18 version it doesn't work at all.
It's TomTom which doesn't support WM6 (yet), WM6 from HTC doesn't make a difference.

Although I agree with the general population of pissed off HTC customers, I can't say I share the same opinion about cooked ROMs. Most cooked ROMs won't be as stable as an official ROM -- with horror stories about users having to follow procedures to avoid battery life, wifi, gps and other problems.
I do admit HTC ROMs will probably include software which most of us don't need but if I ever install a cooked WM6 ROM, it'll be only if it's a cab-cut-down version based on an official Trinity WM6 ROM.
What's worse is if this injustice weren't enough, they go ahead and release a WM6 version of the P3600 with slightly better specs. Sales seem to be more important than keeping a happy customer base.

there is also the warranty problem.
if i install the cooked ROM and i have any problem with my device and i mean any -even a hardware one like non working speaker- im sure that the HTC service center will make my life hard...

forcedalias said:
Although I agree with the general population of pissed off HTC customers, I can't say I share the same opinion about cooked ROMs. Most cooked ROMs won't be as stable as an official ROM -- with horror stories about users having to follow procedures to avoid battery life, wifi, gps and other problems.
I do admit HTC ROMs will probably include software which most of us don't need but if I ever install a cooked WM6 ROM, it'll be only if it's a cab-cut-down version based on an official Trinity WM6 ROM.
What's worse is if this injustice weren't enough, they go ahead and release a WM6 version of the P3600 with slightly better specs. Sales seem to be more important than keeping a happy customer base.
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I have found that to be true. The Official Dopod ROM is more stable than the cooked ROM's I've tried.

most of cooked rom are based from the original dopod... so all of them are good... HTC maybe will not release an official upgrade but their ROM will not better of official Dopod... and it's always possible to put back the orginal wm5 if you have to send device to repair... so yeah it's a pity HTC will not release an official update but cooked ROM has nothing less.

Guybrush said:
most of cooked rom are based from the original dopod... so all of them are good... HTC maybe will not release an official upgrade but their ROM will not better of official Dopod... and it's always possible to put back the orginal wm5 if you have to send device to repair... so yeah it's a pity HTC will not release an official update but cooked ROM has nothing less.
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Despite being based on official ROMs, it's possible a little too much is changed each time causing instability. I mean, let's face it -- one or two enthusiast developers cooking a ROM vs an entire team of developers at HTC. I'm pretty sure their collective knowledge ensures greater ROM stability.
As simonte mentioned, should any cooked ROM cause the device any permanent hardware failure, getting the phone repaired by HTC will be a *****.
There have been times I've been tempted to give in and go for cooked but I just plain don't wanna install Olipoop's HardSPL.

dodba said:
..agree may be I will use a cooked rom, but it could be interesting to know how they will make tomtom installable on wm6.
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Sorry I guess I don´t get it,what do you mean by that.Sorry.
Battery drain with the cooked roms?I don´t know what to say because with the rom by HTC wm5,once I turn on the GPS...man my battery starts dieing,regarless of the rom and version and a few calls later and goes from a 100% to 80% really fast.
So I got to a point that If I have this xda I don´t even think about battery drain or memory leakage,it´s just a phone (I know it´s more than that and expensive)but that how I see it.
Bye and enjoy the roms ;-)

dta1974 said:
Sorry I guess I don´t get it,what do you mean by that.Sorry.
Battery drain with the cooked roms?I don´t know what to say because with the rom by HTC wm5,once I turn on the GPS...man my battery starts dieing,regarless of the rom and version and a few calls later and goes from a 100% to 80% really fast.
So I got to a point that If I have this xda I don´t even think about battery drain or memory leakage,it´s just a phone (I know it´s more than that and expensive)but that how I see it.
Bye and enjoy the roms ;-)
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Battery shouldn't be dying that fast. I'm using the ANZ HTC WM6 rom and have no problems. With TomTom running and RF circuits on (With a few short calls) I still get about 6 hours of battery. WiFi seems to cause huge battery drainage though, rarely get more than 3 hours with it turned on. AX3L's rom since 2.0.8.2 seem to have best battery life though when using Wifi, just depends on what you want most.

HTC TP2 October/November 2009 6.5 update!

They put a date for the 6.5 update for the tp2

6.5 is here!
I believe we have already much better 6.5 ROM´s by our great Chefs here than any "Official" version, however is nice to know the date
Gracias Chefs & Devs!!

i know but it seems like some people stay with stock. so i thought i should post it

Thanks for the info
This is a real... very large date

Murcielago said:
Thanks for the info
This is a real... very large date
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welcome

orb3000 said:
I believe we have already much better 6.5 ROM´s by our great Chefs here than any "Official" version, however is nice to know the date
Gracias Chefs & Devs!!
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I second that!

orb3000 said:
I believe we have already much better 6.5 ROM´s by our great Chefs here than any "Official" version, however is nice to know the date
Gracias Chefs & Devs!!
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That may be the case but I don't really feel like voiding my warrenty on a phone I need to use into 2011.

This is great news! Thanks for sharing....

orb3000 said:
I believe we have already much better 6.5 ROM´s by our great Chefs here than any "Official" version, however is nice to know the date
Gracias Chefs & Devs!!
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I've tired so many rom, and i use the stock. i can't imagine, why use anybody cooked rom on tp2.
when i had an X1 i never use the stock rom, because most of the cooked rom was fast and don't eats 60-75% of the memory. but all of the cooked rhodium rom does, and slowing my phone after half our.
i read all the time the posts, what the users or cheef wrote about a rom: fast and lite and slight and smooth, and best. and it is'nt. it's bugy and slow and annoying.
so i use the stock and can'wait what can the HTC doing with wm6.5 and new (?) manila 2.1. it'll eating memory and slowing the tp2 too? i don't belive that. maybe i'm naive. then i'll flash back my old never-falling WM6.1 stock rom.
regards A.

mrcraggle said:
That may be the case but I don't really feel like voiding my warrenty on a phone I need to use into 2011.
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Warranty can be applied as long as you return to original ROM before you send it to repair! so not really a void warranty
I reflashed to a cooked ROM the same day I receive my TP2 and I´m so happy!
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I've tired so many rom, and i use the stock. i can't imagine, why use anybody cooked rom on tp2.
when i had an X1 i never use the stock rom, because most of the cooked rom was fast and don't eats 60-75% of the memory. but all of the cooked rhodium rom does, and slowing my phone after half our.
i read all the time the posts, what the users or cheef wrote about a rom: fast and lite and slight and smooth, and best. and it is'nt. it's bugy and slow and annoying.
so i use the stock and can'wait what can the HTC doing with wm6.5 and new (?) manila 2.1. it'll eating memory and slowing the tp2 too? i don't belive that. maybe i'm naive. then i'll flash back my old never-falling WM6.1 stock rom.
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Shame to hear your experience.
Here is complete opposite case, official ROM is so heavy and full of crap...

The wait is killing me, I want a cooked rom on my CDMA device....
and you know what else is killing me, the new network coming out on telus, and my phone that won't do 21 Mbps I might have to part ways, I hope something just as good is coming up.

orb3000 said:
Warranty can be applied as long as you return to original ROM before you send it to repair! so not really a void warranty
I reflashed to a cooked ROM the same day I receive my TP2 and I´m so happy!
Shame to hear your experience.
Here is complete opposite case, official ROM is so heavy and full of crap...
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Oh ok then. Thanks for that. Maybe i'll go ahead and stick a rom on this weekend but I just read that the official roms coming from HTC later in the month will have the 6.5 update and also the new HTC Sense.

mrcraggle said:
Oh ok then. Thanks for that. Maybe i'll go ahead and stick a rom on this weekend but I just read that the official roms coming from HTC later in the month will have the 6.5 update and also the new HTC Sense.
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When that appears to be true, I'm eagerly awaiting this update from HTC. But, in all honesty, I intend to not believe that HTC is upgrading WM as well as TF3D to HTC sense. We'll see. Would be great though!!
Edit: BTW where did you read this?

sorry double post...dunno how to delete

may b they will..they have no better alternatives coming for TP2...its only 1 with HW keyboard,and there are no announcments on TP3..which i wonder will b wm7 phone..mean while old hardware on TP2 can do the tricks on sense and keep business users happy for a while

kuzibri said:
When that appears to be true, I'm eagerly awaiting this update from HTC. But, in all honesty, I intend to not believe that HTC is upgrading WM as well as TF3D to HTC sense. We'll see. Would be great though!!
Edit: BTW where did you read this?
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http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=8773
Third paragraph down unless they are mistaken

when that is true, and usually wmpoweruser is thrustworthy, I will be very glad and have no intention at all to switch to the Touch HD2

lunarjetman said:
This is great news! Thanks for sharing....
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you're welcome
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http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=8773
Third paragraph down unless they are mistaken
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i really hope it's true

so will it be October or November?? haa!

Bah, can't wait that long! I've flashed mine yesterday with one of the ROMs from here and it works great