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When is the MDA Compact iii coming to the UK

When is this coming out in the UK. Have phoned several shops in my area and they have never even heard of it DER
Im sick of waiting for it. T mobile are just so slow at releasing anything. Why is this.

tmaxx said:
When is this coming out in the UK. Have phoned several shops in my area and they have never even heard of it DER
Im sick of waiting for it. T mobile are just so slow at releasing anything. Why is this.
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It's already here, I got my one from T-Mobile last Tuesday

WOW. What a bummer. Will ring them up now. Just thought it would be in the t mobile shops. Are you pleased with it. Would you recommend it??

tmaxx said:
WOW. What a bummer. Will ring them up now. Just thought it would be in the t mobile shops. Are you pleased with it. Would you recommend it??
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I like it, it's a nice pda, but I haven't had a chance to properly test it so I couldn't recommed it just yet.

Im on the phone right now to t mobile. Only been waiting for 25 mins listening to some crap music.

@stand
Can u post some pictures of your Compact III ? & it's package !

Hi, does the UK T-Mobile MDA Compact III have wi-fi? I'm asking this question, because the German T-Mobile version doesn't have built-in wi-fi, but the Dutch version has it

Ordered my compact iii direct from t mobile today
It does state on t mob website that it is wifi. I do hope so.

tmaxx
Congrat's m8
I hope u can post some picture of it's package & photo's of device !
No longer compact 3 is listed on t-mob site .

Jay. Will post a pic as soon as i have taken one. Im like a big kid at the moment. I cant wait

tmaxx said:
Ordered my compact iii direct from t mobile today
It does state on t mob website that it is wifi. I do hope so.
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Ordered mine today for delivery tomorrow. I could have queued up in the Oxford St. store but decided that it'd be quicker to get it delivered.
I hope that it does have wifi but if it doesn't at least I'll save £10 per month on my hotspot access! I was offered Copilot with it but declined as I already have TomTom 6. Does anyone know if it has TomTom in ROM?
Phil

Got mine on Friday and suprisingly there is no Wi Fi built in... this is a pretty serious problem as the website states it does!

Phil,
There is no TomTom on the rom although TomTom 6 runs perfectly on it, just select COM4 under other GPS unit.

I knew it was too good to be true. No wifi is a major bummer. WHY

It now appears that despite there being stock (I know this!) there is no mention of the phone on the site after I sent an email enquiring why it was advertised as having wi-fi and not actually having it.

treblechance said:
Phil,
There is no TomTom on the rom although TomTom 6 runs perfectly on it, just select COM4 under other GPS unit.
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With the correct version of TTN6 loaded you get an option to select "Built-In GPS receiver" if you have loaded TTN6 on to your device can you check a couple of things:
1/ does the roller ball control the volume level?
2/ does the roller wheel control the map zoom level
3/ does the roller wheel skip through the menu pages
Only interested to see if its version specific or does TTN6 work with this hardware as a matter of fact - Mike

Picked it up from the post office today. Very nice little unit. Complicated to use, as im not used to a PDA device, but im getting used to it. Gotta get Tom Tom 6 installed ASAP.

mikealder said:
With the correct version of TTN6 loaded you get an option to select "Built-In GPS receiver" if you have loaded TTN6 on to your device can you check a couple of things:
1/ does the roller ball control the volume level?
2/ does the roller wheel control the map zoom level
3/ does the roller wheel skip through the menu pages
Only interested to see if its version specific or does TTN6 work with this hardware as a matter of fact - Mike
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1) Yes scrolling the rollerball left and right controls the volume for the voice from the main screen
2) No, the roller ball moves the cursor but the roller whell has no function
3) No but the roller ball allows you to scroll through the menu items.

Co-Pilot Installation

hi every1,
my 3 contract runs out next month and i am thinking about getting the MDA Compact III.
My question is about co-pilot that comes with the t-mobile UK bundle. I was wondering if was able to get hold of the installation cd's from somewhere ... can i install it on my empty memory card
are there any serial numbers or anything that i might need?
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just another question to add. anyone with the co-pilot bundle. i went to a t-mobile shop today to ask them about a similer question. worded differently tho lol. seem to have answered my question. the co-pilot bundle does come with original installation cds for you to re-install them on your mem card. ;-)
but the women said that the co-pilot bundle comes with an antenna that plugs into the back of the phone. now im wondering
1) is this really needed? bcoz i thought the GPS was in-built????
2) wot type of antenna would i need? and how much do they cost?
thanks,
Snoop

Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?

ansaar99 said:
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
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thats a good point you know. maybe she said that it comes with attenna because it would help boost the signal. bcoz my friend has a navman pda and he uses an external attenna to do just that.
it be interesting to know to excat box contents of the phone and phone with copilot bundle. can anyone fill us in please
thanks,
snoop

ansaar99 said:
Ive ordered a compact III without the copilot bundle. from reading other peoples reviews, they have installed software such as tomtom on the pda and it worked successfully. Hence im pretty sure you dont need any sort of antenna. Interesting to know what they meant?
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Sounds interesting.
Maybe they include an RDS antenna to get live traffic updates??
Can anyone confirm this?

hi guys,
regarding this external antenna. please read below. found it on this website http://htcphonestore.com/review.asp?itemMDL=HTC_P3300
GPS Navigation
One of the best features of the Artemis is the integrated GPS. With a built in GPS Sirf-Star III chipset, navigation was seamless. The unit comes bundled with TomTom 6, and included in your purchase is the ability to download one free city-map. Additionally, there is an external antenna port on the back of the unit which enables you to achieve better satellite reception. More on the GPS capabilities in Part II.
just need to find out what type it is. maybe some with the manual can have a read through and tell us. if under there accessories section they mention anything.
thanks,
snoop

found this description about a Bluetooth GPS antenna?
http://www.yourkindamobile.co.uk/upgrades2_orange.asp?Phone=2036&Network=T-Mobile
Includes Co-Pilot GPS navigation which gives you spoken and on-screen turn instructions, satellite positioning, address-level street map, ETA and distance remaining, detour around traffic and 2D or 3D display with night mode. Bluetooth GPS antenna included.

snoop85 said:
just need to find out what type it is. maybe some with the manual can have a read through and tell us. if under there accessories section they mention anything.
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If you really think you need an external aerial for the GPS unit in your device (which I doubt to be honest) have a search for the part number 36H00352-00M it transpires that the same aerial was supplied for the I-Mate PDA-n, you can purchase one from http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=129590 (at least I can improve the reception on my PDA-n now I know that! and I have found a use for the external GPS aerial that was supplied with my Arte) - Mike

To confirm guys...
I opened the box to an MDA III co-pilot and the package contains:
Software
Moulded Car Holder (Windscreen Sucker)
Car charger for MDA
No GPS antenna and no Bluetooth receiver. This product retails at 169.99 compared to 199.99 with the GPS bluetooth receiver (Vario, Vario 2 etc...)

treblechance said:
To confirm guys...
I opened the box to an MDA III co-pilot and the package contains:
Software
Moulded Car Holder (Windscreen Sucker)
Car charger for MDA
No GPS antenna and no Bluetooth receiver. This product retails at 169.99 compared to 199.99 with the GPS bluetooth receiver (Vario, Vario 2 etc...)
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wwwhoooo thanks treblechance. thanks for confirming, must mean the shop assisant meant that you can BUY one extra. like the one pointed out by mikealder. because i know a friend who has one of those navman pda's and he is using an external attenaa to boost the signal. and simply plugs in the back, similar place to what the shop assisstant showed me.
looks like i what need to buy the copilot bundle after all SAVING me a bundle of $$$ hehe
thanks everyone for the help.

If you have the hardware and only need the GPS software try using it first with the inbuilt GPS, don't go wasting money on the external GPS aerial, the receiver in the Artemis is very good without re-course to an external feed. If you have a car with Athermic coated glass you might experiance a signal drop but even so I would try it first and it should be fine with just the device on its own - Mike

ye good point mike. thats what some of my friends said. thanks

Manual
hey does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of the manual?
i thought someone posted somewhere on the forum. but i can seem to find it

snoop85 said:
hey does anyone know where i can get a pdf version of the manual?
i thought someone posted somewhere on the forum. but i can seem to find it
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Hi,
Try - http://www.europe.htc.com/support/training.html

TomTom on the MDA Compact III? Anyone used one?
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting tmobile mda iii compact without the bundled co-pilot but tmobile call centre said it wouldn’t work but I’m very taken with tom tom.
So I am seeking information from anyone that has actually pulled it off.
This is because I would like to know if there are any negatives involved and what.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx

mikolo said:
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting tmobile mda iii compact without the bundled co-pilot but tmobile call centre said it wouldn’t work but I’m very taken with tom tom.
So I am seeking information from anyone that has actually pulled it off.
This is because I would like to know if there are any negatives involved and what.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx
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hi,
i think they may be right. i tried getting co-pilot to work on my mda but wasnt having any of it. so i gave up in the end. i think the only way you can install it is using some kind of auto install file that is on the memory that is provided when you buy the bundle.
as for tom tom. i have managed to get that working just prefect. i tried it inside my house wasnt getting a very good signal. stepped outside...and hey presto 11 signals picked up. i havnt done full test of it i.e. driving from my house to another location. but it seemed to work fine when i did a small walk around my local area.
hope that helps.
regards,
snoop

i have a question about copilot's installation. Does anyone know where the license file is installed. I had copilot installed on one device and copied files onto another device thinking that would save me download time. Anyway now it keeps picking the licensing info from the previous device. I have tried uninstall and reinstall but that did not help. If someone could help me with resetting the licensing info so I can register the software with the new key. Thanks.

Looking for experiecne with Bluetooth GPS

Hello everyone, I am thinking of getting a bluetooth gps reciever. I only want it for emergencys when im snowboarding, give me a latitude and longitude so i wouldnt really need any maps. And I woudl just keep the unit in my pocket and off until i had to use it.
Has anyone used any of these devices with the htcs620 if so please let me know wich model, software and your experience.
Thanks.

I currently own the Holux M1200 that I bought online for about 70 dollars. It is very small and durable, about the size of a usb flash drive. It even has a very solid loop that could be used to tie the unit to your jacket or keychain.
The device came with a very small piece of software that gives you your long/lat. It also came with smart2go, though I couldn't get the application to install via the dvd and had to download it from their website.
You can read more about the product here.

Rebuttle
Thanks, great info i've found the Holux GPSlim 240 looks like the next version a bit slimmer for $70.00 seems worth it.
Can live search be used with it ?
Can you use bluetooth headset and have the gps connected to the phone at the same time ?

I chose the M1200 b/c it can connect to 32 satellites vs. 20 satellites with the slim 240

yggdrasil said:
Hello everyone, I am thinking of getting a bluetooth gps reciever. I only want it for emergencys when im snowboarding, give me a latitude and longitude so i wouldnt really need any maps. And I woudl just keep the unit in my pocket and off until i had to use it.
Has anyone used any of these devices with the htcs620 if so please let me know wich model, software and your experience.
Thanks.
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I had never used the mini gps program until today and I'd like to add that it does NOT work on smartphones.

Geeks.com have a bunch all about $40-$50. (The one I got was cheaper still but they don't have it any more!) They are all based on a very few chipsets, so don't worry about going with a no name brand. The key is really finding software that does what you want. If you just want to check your position then there's a few packages knocking about that will read the datastream. I don't have it with me but there was one I found that gave you all the details - VITO I think. I wouldn't use Live/G Maps though except if you stop and check. If you have them running continuous you will have an active datastream and bluetooth datastream running at the same time which is a large power drain. That's fine in a car with a charger, but with no access to power.....

jamssx said:
Geeks.com have a bunch all about $40-$50. (The one I got was cheaper still but they don't have it any more!) They are all based on a very few chipsets, so don't worry about going with a no name brand. The key is really finding software that does what you want. If you just want to check your position then there's a few packages knocking about that will read the datastream. I don't have it with me but there was one I found that gave you all the details - VITO I think. I wouldn't use Live/G Maps though except if you stop and check. If you have them running continuous you will have an active datastream and bluetooth datastream running at the same time which is a large power drain. That's fine in a car with a charger, but with no access to power.....
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Vito Smartnavigator. I would have never found this handy application if it weren't for this post. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!
I can even make maps in ArcGis and import them into Vito SmartNavigator! Just what i've been looking for!

Hi Crimson Blake,
Can you give me a detailed info on your ArcGis and also vito SmartNavigator.
I want to create maps for India and use them with my P3300 phone.

Making the Excalibur into a functioning GPS

Hey guys - just wondering if it's possible to make the Excalibur into a functioning turn by turn GPS?
Has anyone done this? Or is it possible?

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Hey guys - just wondering if it's possible to make the Excalibur into a functioning turn by turn GPS?
Has anyone done this? Or is it possible?
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I haven't heard of anybody doing this and I doubt it is possible. I believe it would require a hardware upgrade.

torontotytn said:
Hey guys - just wondering if it's possible to make the Excalibur into a functioning turn by turn GPS?
Has anyone done this? Or is it possible?
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Yeah, you'll have to purchase a GPS receiver to make the phone into a "GPS device".

Thanks guys - and in doing that it's probably cheaper to just get a standalone device like a Magellan or something I assume?

Seems to doable...
I know that there are many portable bluetooth GPS modules that work with the Excalibur and 'lots of apps for maps routing too.
I´m just not sure about the "turn by turn" feature, but I guess it might be doable with the right GPS module/Software combo, you´ll just have to poke around... or wait 'till mid october, when I'll be back from Europe and will have mine working with a bluetooth GPS module too...
Anyways, I guess someone in the forum community might have it working...
Cheers.

Well, from what I´ve searched online, the bluetooth module prices start from about US$ 50, so it can be much cheaper than a whole GPS device, being only up to what you´ll settle for in terms of price and features...

torontotytn said:
Thanks guys - and in doing that it's probably cheaper to just get a standalone device like a Magellan or something I assume?
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if you look in this sites online store there is a very nice keychain bluetooth reciever for about 100 bucks....it seems to be worth a try im about to purchase it

ryanh11 said:
if you look in this sites online store there is a very nice keychain bluetooth reciever for about 100 bucks....it seems to be worth a try im about to purchase it
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Great keep us posted as to what you think about it if you don't mind.

Yes please keep us posted - i might as well make the most use of the phone..seems to do everything and more!

torontotytn said:
Yes please keep us posted - i might as well make the most use of the phone..seems to do everything and more!
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I had the Garmin Mobile 10 Bluetooth GPS for my Excalibur. It came with a Bluetooth GPS receiver and tons of maps for download to the device/storage card. The software gives you turn-by-turn directions--which were great. The only problem I had, was the speed of the program. The maps loaded up VERY slow at times and it was due to my use of a 1GB memory card. The lowest amount of memory recommended by Garmin is 1GB, but my mem card was so saturated that the maps loaded very slowly. I'd recommend AT LEAST 2GB of storage before installing the maps for this program.

The home screen plug in isn't WM6.1 Compatible, but I have the app on a speed dial. 2d/3d turn-by-turn, easy pairing, the subscription isn't essential. The maps take about half of the supplied 2GB card, rest is free for whatever else. Lots of refined goodies.
http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/2007/02/17/some-details-on-motonav-and-t805-and-t815/
http://www.google.com/products?q=Motonav+T815&btnG=Search+Products&scoring=p

There is a version of TomTom out there that along with FakeCursor does a pretty nice job. I have seen Sirf III BT GPS's for around $60 online too.
Of course the TT isn't legit so don't ask for links.
There was also a v5 of TomTom that would work on WM smartphone, but I think it had some trouble with the landscape screen. Usable, but not as pretty.

Rip Syntaxx said:
I had the Garmin Mobile 10 Bluetooth GPS for my Excalibur. It came with a Bluetooth GPS receiver and tons of maps for download to the device/storage card. The software gives you turn-by-turn directions--which were great. The only problem I had, was the speed of the program. The maps loaded up VERY slow at times and it was due to my use of a 1GB memory card. The lowest amount of memory recommended by Garmin is 1GB, but my mem card was so saturated that the maps loaded very slowly. I'd recommend AT LEAST 2GB of storage before installing the maps for this program.
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I have a 4gb card in there right now - and it's pretty empty.
Thans for the heads up on this - I will look for the Garmin Mobile 10 Bluetooth GPS

This has kinda been dealt with here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281037
In short, I use the B-Speech GPS reciever with the MapQuest Navigator 5.0 and I have absolutly no problems with it. I drive a Tow truck so I need good directions. I had a GPS device (Mio) and even that did not compare to the MapQuest Navigator directions and accuracy.
Its worth looking into

Bupahs said:
This has kinda been dealt with here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281037
In short, I use the B-Speech GPS reciever with the MapQuest Navigator 5.0 and I have absolutly no problems with it. I drive a Tow truck so I need good directions. I had a GPS device (Mio) and even that did not compare to the MapQuest Navigator directions and accuracy.
Its worth looking into
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Thanks man - I will look out for it when I go shopping.
A few questions for those that might know for a fact. These may be dumb questions, so I apologize.
1. Do i need to be on a dataplan to have the GPS work.
2. Will any GPS reciever work no matter what country I am in.
3. Is the text-to-speech activated through the software that is on the phone, or the GPS Reciever that I buy?
Thanks everyone!

torontotytn said:
Thanks man - I will look out for it when I go shopping.
A few questions for those that might know for a fact. These may be dumb questions, so I apologize.
1. Do i need to be on a dataplan to have the GPS work.
2. Will any GPS reciever work no matter what country I am in.
3. Is the text-to-speech activated through the software that is on the phone, or the GPS Reciever that I buy?
Thanks everyone!
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1. If the maps are already on the phone (or, a card installed in the phone), no. Otherwise some plan is needed. Motonav and Live Search both work with the proxy plan, if you are on Tmo.
2. Pretty much, although the accuracy may vary in a few middle east countries from time to time, based on U.S. relations at the moment. At this point, it is pretty much accurate to about 20 feet anywhere in the world,. In America and Europe, it tends to be far more accurate than the map software!
3. The receiver just determines your current time, latitude, longitude, velocity and altitude, the rest of the work is done by the phone software.

Hey man thanks!
Is there an Reciever that you recommend that stands apart from the rest?
I will probably go and look for one today.

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Great keep us posted as to what you think about it if you don't mind.
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Hey guys, I just bought a Q starz bt 890. really small receiver (3mm wide!)I found it for 50 bucks. works great. check it out at http://www.qstarz.com/Products/GPS Products/BT-Q890-F.htm look around and you'll find it cheaper.

I use the B-Speech GPS receiver and Route 66 (PM me on route 66) works perfectly. Of course you can also use Google Maps (but no turn by turn).
Yes its a lot cheaper to buy a GPS receiver then to buy a stand alone Nav unit, the B-Speech cost me about 50.00 on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/GARMIN-NUVI-200-GPS-2009-MAPS-V10-AUTOMOTIVE-NAVIGATION_W0QQitemZ360127426051QQcmdZViewItem
i got on of those for around $110....id just do that...ever try to use navigation on a 2" non touch screen while driving?

offline navigation app for use on my multiple devices simultaneously any suggestions?

looking for the best offline navi app for my note 2. i'm willing to pay for one license but i would like to use them across 2 devices at the same time.
i was looking into sygic but seems that the software is only good for one device at a time. is that still true? this is for north america.
any other suggestions ?

Frodllezzud said:
I use to drive a ambulance, this worked great for a year for me, very accurate, no need for data plan. the best one to use is route 66, there is a yearly fee. They have like a 15 day trial, download map and try it, the offline navigation is the yearly fee... I tried them all, and this was the best one if you have no data plan.....it take a little to get use to entering address, but is highly accurate...nevrmind the re iews, the dont know jack...jack.
Oh, route 66 is only good for one device license tho, still best offline navigation bar none.
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thanks. yea i saw the bad reviews mostly from countries outside usa, have you tried sygic?

Have you try TomTom Nav? A little pricey, works great on tabs and on the phone as well. Beware for the data storage on your phone. I have US & CAN TomTom on my tabs and phones is about 2.3GB.

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Have you try TomTom Nav? A little pricey, works great on tabs and on the phone as well. Beware for the data storage on your phone. I have US & CAN TomTom on my tabs and phones is about 2.3GB.
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i have not. reviews are swaying me away. i am going to try sygic out.

MapsWithMe Pro check it.
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