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I was wondering if anyone has a solution for my strange problem.
When switching on the unit from the power button there is a 20 second delay before the today screen shows up.
The backlight comes on initially and I get a black screen for about 20 seconds then the today screen loads.
If I swithc the unit off and on rapidly then there is no problem , but if I switch it off ( using the power button of course) and leave it for a few minutes I have to wait for the screen to boot.
Wierd eh?
Rom: 1.31.00WWE
Rom Date : 12/13/04
Radio: 1.06.00
Protocol: 1337.38
Ext Rom : 1.31.139WWE
Help please if you can , thanks to all.
I'm guessing it's just the programs you have running on Startup and that's how long it takes to boot.
I'm running PhotoContacts (with 301 contacts/photos), GPS Gate, vCard, Voice Command, MultiIE, GPRS Notify, and some other bits and bobs and I'm lucky if I get into mine in under 45 seconds. I know it's just the software loading that takes a while because if I remove all the startup files it boots up in a matter of seconds.
Take a look in \Windows\Startup there might be things in there you don't need loading on startup, but MOVE them out of there to somewhere else rather than delete incase you have to put them back later!
Oh and "Today plugins" as will also slow you down since it'll have to load each one of those and each plugin will have to "update" itself on the screen as well before the device is fully usable.
Hi , thanks for the reply!,
The device has had a hard reset and is not running anything on startup , I actually did a corporate install so I don't even have the O2 active gubbins going on.
Yet mysteriously the boot up is ages slow!!!!!
Its got me highly baffled and frustrated.... argh
Hmm I'm not really sure what to suggest. I cooked my Extended ROM / Got rid of everything O2 as fast as I can so I can't remember what the times were like on mine for starting up with O2's firmware. Sorry!
Hey Xanth , thanks for trying to help!
Looks like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and do a reflash of the rom and etc. , hope that cures it or its going to be an interesting phone call to O2.
Unless anyone else has any suggestions it seems that the flashing is my only recourse.
Need help...after 7 months of trouble free use my Orbit has suddenly died. It basically started last week where the phone would for no reason at all soft reset itself. After it booted up the clock would go back to its original setting back in 2006 & had to be adjusted again. The soft reset would happen without any pattern e.g. when I push the talk button when call comes through, when I try to open a program or even just pressing a button to wake it up from standby.
Anyway yesterday it did the same thing but this time it boots up to the O2 splash screen i.e. the blue screen with the picture of the glass building, & then just remains there with the backlight still on. I've resorted to a hard reset but again it will only boot up to the blue screen.
Any ideas?
zen123 said:
Need help...after 7 months of trouble free use my Orbit has suddenly died. It basically started last week where the phone would for no reason at all soft reset itself. After it booted up the clock would go back to its original setting back in 2006 & had to be adjusted again. The soft reset would happen without any pattern e.g. when I push the talk button when call comes through, when I try to open a program or even just pressing a button to wake it up from standby.
Anyway yesterday it did the same thing but this time it boots up to the O2 splash screen i.e. the blue screen with the picture of the glass building, & then just remains there with the backlight still on. I've resorted to a hard reset but again it will only boot up to the blue screen.
Any ideas?
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Well... do u use any overclocking software ?? To me happend the same today morning... i used BatteryStatus overclocking tool @ 260 MHZ
I got a call from my dad, we talk about 5 minutes and than, one second to the other the MDA screen was black, made a softreset, booting to the o2 screen (i used Orbit WM6 Rom with MDA Compact III),set, made a hard renothing changes, once more booting to the Bootlogo...
Okay, so i tried it with bootloader mode and flash the rom, the same ****..., try the original TMO WM5 Rom, nothing changes... Now he show me the TMO bootscreen for more than 5 hours and backlight is also active all the time...
If i try to charge the MDA there is no LED lightening...
How have u sloved the problem ? New device ??
Thanks for your answer !
Regards,
Andy
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Well... do u use any overclocking software ?? To me happend the same today morning... i used BatteryStatus overclocking tool @ 260 MHZ
I got a call from my dad, we talk about 5 minutes and than, one second to the other the MDA screen was black, made a softreset, booting to the o2 screen (i used Orbit WM6 Rom with MDA Compact III),set, made a hard renothing changes, once more booting to the Bootlogo...
Okay, so i tried it with bootloader mode and flash the rom, the same ****..., try the original TMO WM5 Rom, nothing changes... Now he show me the TMO bootscreen for more than 5 hours and backlight is also active all the time...
If i try to charge the MDA there is no LED lightening...
How have u sloved the problem ? New device ??
Thanks for your answer !
Regards,
Andy
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I'm having a similar problem and I have posted my symptoms here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344335) , though I never overclock my orbit before. ANyone have any solutions? Thanks in advance
Hi,
My Artemis is running Meschle's Touch 4.02 WWE for a long time now.
A couple of months ago it started to crash, apparently randomly. It started after I installed auto-hibernate, but this could be a coincidence.
What happens most of the time is that the screen is turning black (fades away), starting from the bottom. Sometimes it just gets stuck on the home or other window or it soft resets automatically. I also got twice a white screen that said: 'reset due to sudden power loss'. Soft resets sometimes work, sometimes it gets stuck on the boot screen. I did several hard-resets with no luck.
I am trying for a long time to figure out a pattern. Maybe it has to do with the radio consuming too much power? Upgraded to 03.21.90: same problem.
Last two crashes happened while trying to start Opera mini.
After a crash the clock is wrong (the time of the crash the clock stopped).
It seems to happen more often while charging.
I've changed the battery: it seemed to be better for a while (two weeks) but then it started again.
I've disabled everything, leaving only the phone (no data, no HTC home, ....) but still the phone crashes from time to time (sometimes every hour, sometimes every 5 mins, .....).
Battery status indicates some weird things too: after charging up to i.e. 35% then soft reset batt status indicated 58%...or batt status is 30% then 2 mins later status is 2%. The OMAP function is turned off, because sometimes while booting the cpu is stuck on a very low frequency (screen flickering, very slow boot, ...).
I've tried to flash with another rom (original HTC) but I get: 'update utility not for this device' or something similar. I've tried several RUU's en always USPL.
Does any of this make sense to anyone? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
I have exactly the same problem. Think solved from 2 days. Changed the SD card i have 2 one 2 gigs and one 1 gigs the problem was with the 2 gigs card. Try to backup your data and format the card.
bobybravo said:
I have exactly the same problem. Think solved from 2 days. Changed the SD card i have 2 one 2 gigs and one 1 gigs the problem was with the 2 gigs card. Try to backup your data and format the card.
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Thx, I'll try that. However, even when the sd card is removed the crashes occur.
Just had another crash....connected via usb to my pc: after 5 secs screen faded to black. I had to soft reset. After that some 'invisible window' was blocking the start menu. Closed it (via the close button top right) and got the start menu again. Re-connected to usb and is ok until now....
I also see 173mA of drain.
I had the same problem.............and i change back to the original swedish wm6 rom and it was better for a couple of days, then got worse started to freze fade out until one day it "died" now i can only get into bootloader but cant boot any roms not the original swedish rom (wm6) or any other rom, in boot loader it only says IPL 3.13.0001 SPL 3.13.0001 no gsm or other stuff but when conected to USB it says usb, I tried the SD flash to but no good so my sugestion it that u see to that ur device is "open spl" if it take the same route that mine did.
(i change to a brand new battery when the problem where starting but taht didnt help.....)
I guess now as i understand it my only hope is to find the original shiped rom wm 5 swedish rom?! and try if that will flash onto my device.
i hope u dont get the same problem as me.
Only problems, no solutions...
Mine (p3300; Black&Blue v5) got a new Battery, new SD-Card. Did´nt help. I removed the SD, removed SIM, loaded the battery, then turned it on again and from now on it´s sometimes booting, sometimes not. If it´s booted up (after long time lying with removed battery) it doesn´t live long enough to flash it with another (old) rom.
Now it´s lying next to me, with all this expensive accesoires, doesn´t talk to me and say what the problem is. My Provider called me and asked if I want a new one.
Again HTC? I love the functions of WM...
I have the same problem with my Dopod M700 (Love)
But mine doesn't freeze it just auto soft reset itself... i don't know whats going on... somebody please help.
Changing to different ROM doesn't solve the problems... put back the original factory ROM also doesn't help.
Here still the same problem.
I've upgraded the radio to 03.21.90: now WIFI isn't working anymore and the phone still 'crashes'. I'll change it to 03.18.90 and see what happens.
I've emptied the battery several times (until bootloader switches off) and recharged with the original AC adapter. Did a hard reset on battery 100%: problem remains.
There are several threads with the same problem. I didn't find an answer, exept maybe to replace the motherboard.
I really wonder if there's anyone who knows what is causing the problem.
It could be the graphics card (screen fading) or the battery/charge chip...no idea.
I've also noticed that when a crash occurs, it often takes some time until it boots again, as if the Artemis needs to 'cool down'.
System Crash
PeteNewt said:
Hi,
My Artemis is running Meschle's Touch 4.02 WWE for a long time now.
A couple of months ago it started to crash, apparently randomly. It started after I installed auto-hibernate, but this could be a coincidence.
What happens most of the time is that the screen is turning black (fades away), starting from the bottom. Sometimes it just gets stuck on the home or other window or it soft resets automatically. I also got twice a white screen that said: 'reset due to sudden power loss'. Soft resets sometimes work, sometimes it gets stuck on the boot screen. I did several hard-resets with no luck.
I am trying for a long time to figure out a pattern. Maybe it has to do with the radio consuming too much power? Upgraded to 03.21.90: same problem.
Last two crashes happened while trying to start Opera mini.
After a crash the clock is wrong (the time of the crash the clock stopped).
It seems to happen more often while charging.
I've changed the battery: it seemed to be better for a while (two weeks) but then it started again.
I've disabled everything, leaving only the phone (no data, no HTC home, ....) but still the phone crashes from time to time (sometimes every hour, sometimes every 5 mins, .....).
Battery status indicates some weird things too: after charging up to i.e. 35% then soft reset batt status indicated 58%...or batt status is 30% then 2 mins later status is 2%. The OMAP function is turned off, because sometimes while booting the cpu is stuck on a very low frequency (screen flickering, very slow boot, ...).
I've tried to flash with another rom (original HTC) but I get: 'update utility not for this device' or something similar. I've tried several RUU's en always USPL.
Does any of this make sense to anyone? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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I'm having exactly the same problem which happened after I upgrade from Artemis love 32 to 33.
I have tried everything mentioned here, changed th Rom 5 times, went back to the Ship Rom, but the system keep on crashing.This is the second time this is happening to my Artemis. The solution at the first time was replacing the motherboard and nothing else, as it has worked fine after that.
I posted my problem in another thread here but no solution yet. Four days back and after I got enough with it, I took my Artemis to the HTC work shop and they told me that they couldn't find the reason for the crash, and the only way to solve the problem is to replace the motherboard which will cost me too much.
Strange it happens to several phones, and more or less in the same way.
I've changed my Rom to B&B 5.0 now. Still same problem.
Wifi isn't working at all anymore: tried several radio versions, none brings back the wifi. Is this the end of my Artemis?
Me 2
Jup it happened to mine too, I returned it to the shop and when they returned it they said that they had replaced something but they couldn't tell me what It worked for a couple of months but now the same problem so it's back at the shop again... (luckily i had 2 years of warranty) So i guess it's not really a software problem.
Maart84 said:
Jup it happened to mine too, I returned it to the shop and when they returned it they said that they had replaced something but they couldn't tell me what It worked for a couple of months but now the same problem so it's back at the shop again... (luckily i had 2 years of warranty) So i guess it's not really a software problem.
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I hope u really try to get them to awnser what they change this time and then u can tell us? who knows it might help to know that.
So...installed B&B 5.0 (thx Tom ).
I did several complete 'battery charging cycles'.
I formatted my SDHC card.
It seems to me that it crashes less now (only once yesterday, not yet today).
Wifi seems to be definitly gone.
It probably isn't SW-related, but why would it crash less now than before?
I think that the most probable cause would be the chip that handles the battery status.
Let's hope that the chip somehow got resetted with the charging cycles.
No luck....it crashed all the time yesterday.
It seems that it happens more often when it is in my pocket (temperature related?).
When it lies on the cupboard it seems that it stays ok...again very strange.
Also while charging the battery status was 48%. I removed the charger and the status jumped to 100% :s.
Does anyone know how much it costs to have the MB replaced?
MDA Compact III
Hi!
I had the same promlem with my MDA Compact III!
I think it's a hardware problem. I tried so many roms, original, and cooked too... change the battery, clean the motherboard, but didn't help.
I was nervous, take out the battery for 5sec then reinstall it and took it in the refrigerator (NOT IN THE FREEZER!!!) for about 10minutes!
The result: don't crash about 1 hour!
So i took it back for 1day. And now, it works 2weeks continously, with no crash.
But unfortunately the battery (also the new one) holds the charge only 1day.
ElVikin said:
I hope u really try to get them to awnser what they change this time and then u can tell us? who knows it might help to know that.
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Same problem here. I called HTC, they picked up my device, replaced the inside (motherboard) I guess because my device has a different IMEI number now. Very quick service, within one week my device was at my desk again.
I had similar problems.
had my HTC repaired (new MB)
problems remained the same.
after two repairs I received a new device and even that did not solve my problems.
Up till I bought a new battery
now he is working perfect again!
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
Fill said:
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
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just get a new battery and it hopefully will do...it solved my problems...first time i hat the issue....right now i'm having it again...and it seems like the battery
you say it stays like that or 2 days...try running some heavy apps like igo or something other which is memory and battery consuming..it will probably crash..if it does...i'm 95% sure it's the battery
Fill said:
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
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Exactly my case!!!
I am fed up of being consistently taking my battery out or soft reseting. If it stays over the table quiet, it's ok. The moment it goes into my pocket...
Just ordered Hero...
velhote said:
Exactly my case!!!
I am fed up of being consistently taking my battery out or soft reseting. If it stays over the table quiet, it's ok. The moment it goes into my pocket...
Just ordered Hero...
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Thanks for replying, it seems that the problem has fixed itself. i put it in the original charger for about 3 or 4 days. it still crashed a couple times just reset with the charger connected put it back. i now just disconnect it from changer (2 days) (after 3 or 4 days in the charger) without any crash. runned tomtom for couple or houres?
i also turned the phone function off and removed the simcard.
hopefully it will keep running and then i gonna try to put my simcard back in.
Thanks
Fill
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Ok it crashed already again
hi
i have a problem some time my artemis turn off i don't now why
can any body help me please
I have the same problem
For anyone to do a proper problem determination, we need to know what rom you are using, what windows version and pref. also what applications you are running.
tanks for replay
i use mw6 i don't use any rom
but the phone turn off and the battery show 60%
tanks
i have the same problem, i used different windows 6.5 roms and at this moment i use Artemis touch 4.02 full with cube. witch is a stable rom. with this rom i never had that problem but now i have. i also tried different radio roms. anny solution?
Could it be a bad battery? My phone's been charging at 16%. I do a soft reset and suddenly it's up to 70%. Then at 60% it shuts off. I turn it back on again and I get the red flashing light signaling low battery before it shuts off again. I turn it on again later and it shows 40%. I've ordered a new battery for myself. Hasn't arrived yet.
i also ordert a new battery, i hope this is the solution...............
i was having the same troubles with my artemis ,i read some posts about this
problem especially one talking about a cpu issue ,i followed his advice ,i just reflowed the cpu ,and all things became right, but it so early to have
a definitive opinion ,i will use my phone intensivelly for a month and post the results
i'm having same issue also. have try warranty my unit (change system board), but same thing happen again (can;t turn on when press power button). although using the original Dopod wm5 ROM, same thing happen after warranty.
now i'm using WM6.1 V34 by PDAVIET ROM till now it's working fine. if i've update any additional Todays Item (Pointui), same thing will happen again (hang)..
hi
my p3300 don't work
i turn it and it work and show today interface but when I touch the scren it
comes white end show not things and it not power on until after 10 ou 20 mn
i can't put any rom on it
i can't do any things with it
can any body help me please
tahnks
If you enter to bootloader (recorder + power button at the same time), cant flash another rom?
i had that on mine as well, yesterday!
take out sd card, take out battery let it sit for a couple of minutes, put in battery again, try sd card in as well...and simply try holding bootloader-grip and resetting it with stylus a couple of times in alll diffrent kinds of alterations...mine eventually came on again
to sum it up:
do all you can and dont give up--chaces are rather high its just a software-thingy
greetz
first exuse my english
tanks a lot of for the replay
when i put out the battery for some time and i turn on the phone it work but
when I touch some button the screnn became white and is not working or rebooting
i don't what i can do
i am very trist because i love this phone and i have it a long time ago
ok
and
tanks for all members
for shady133
its an honor for me that replay for me and i have put the lastest rom of you
no i can put any rom and the led on the right became red and the led of the left became orange
i don't now why
another time its an honnor for me
tanks my friend
rachid202446 said:
for shady133
its an honor for me that replay for me and i have put the lastest rom of you
no i can put any rom and the led on the right became red and the led of the left became orange
i don't now why
another time its an honnor for me
tanks my friend
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Maybe it helps to resolder the CPU.
I did it with my P3300 when its starts to get withe screen sporadically.
For me it helps.
ok
now i can enter to bootloader and i put the original wm6.1 its turn on but after a few minutes its give a white screen and i can't see no things
Sorry for this news, but i think its a mobo problem You should check that (if u can) or give that to a service.
you do over overclocking via omapclock?