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windows on pocketpc?

hi
is there any way one can install lets say win95 or 98 on our 520MHz xda2i??
just wanting to know.. (i know the phone part of ppc will be gone)

I dont think so, but you can run windows 3.11

No way; the PPCs use XScale CPUs which are not x86-compatible.

Are you suggesting win 3.1 could run on xda under dos emulation?

yes actually you can. but not without some know how.
you need a copy of bochs (pronounced 'box') compiled for the pocketpc (from here: http://mamaich.kasone.com/ppc/bochs-2.1.1.rar)
you also need Nyditot Virtual Display (http://www.nyditot.com/)
the best place for you to get started is this thread - http://www.pocketgamer.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3660
read it ALL

If i can remember, about a month ago, i saw a qtek with win 95 on it !! I read also how he did it but i can't remember..

Windows Vista + Rombootloader not working!

ok so im running vista and when i try to use the romupdateutility it errors out. neone have a working ver of romupdate i can use?

Dont try to update ROM under Vista with old update utils!
Some people started update process under Vista but was not able to finish, therefore corrupting the ROM. Apparently a lot of update utilities are not compatible with Vista.

if vista didnt look as nice as it does i wouldnt be using it. thank god i was smart enough to dual boot!

jacob-mda said:
if vista didnt look as nice as it does i wouldnt be using it. thank god i was smart enough to dual boot!
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Maybe install VMWare on Vista to host an WinXP

Or maybe not install/use vista at all what for?!? Another M$ fatware that instead of running other programs it drains all of the pc resources for itself to provide additional $$$ to M$
P.S. VMWare is a masterpiece.

Google Android running on the hermes

On a whim I was browsing new posts on the xda forums. it seems that the guys over on the kaiser rom forum have gotten google android to boot on the kaiser. I thought hmmm... the hermes is like the kaiser, lets give it a try. So I installed the HaRET loader, got the 24mb cab file, and the latest zImage and installed it. Followed the instructions and got the hermes booting linux. I thought hey this is easy! next step, ditch WM and go with tux only. Whoops! not so fast. seems that linux won't load past the 'jump to kernel' part. I urge someone else to try this! You really need to install the cab from your sd card, and it eats up all your ram but hey its something new.
btw, use your hermes kb in the complete dark.. your eyes color shift and the buttons take on a red hue. weird. also the forum looks like crap on my hermes. isn't that ironic?

carcomp said:
On a whim I was browsing new posts on the xda forums. it seems that the guys over on the kaiser rom forum have gotten google android to boot on the kaiser. I thought hmmm... the hermes is like the kaiser, lets give it a try. So I installed the HaRET loader, got the 24mb cab file, and the latest zImage and installed it. Followed the instructions and got the hermes booting linux. I thought hey this is easy! next step, ditch WM and go with tux only. Whoops! not so fast. seems that linux won't load past the 'jump to kernel' part. I urge someone else to try this! You really need to install the cab from your sd card, and it eats up all your ram but hey its something new.
btw, use your hermes kb in the complete dark.. your eyes color shift and the buttons take on a red hue. weird. also the forum looks like crap on my hermes. isn't that ironic?
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can you make an instruction how did you manage to run android on hermes?? some links and screenshots??
thanks

The following is taken from the thread "http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
Good ROM that boots Google Andoird all the time: [May 22] Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19585 Test Version
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394202
Cab file (Credit goes to: SH4Y):
http://rapidshare.com/files/11262391..._Installer.CAB
http://www.filedropper.com/sh4ysandrioduiinstaller
Latest zImage (Credit goes to: dcordes):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...7&d=1211818766
Latest HaReT:
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET
For more info: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
Booting Google Android
1. Goto: Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Android.
2. Pres: Listen for network connection. Meanwhile also press run (Doing this makes Android boot most of the time).
3. Google Android is now booting or you're Kaise freezes.
4. Have fun or Soft-Reset!
If Android Is Not Booting?!?!? (Even after 20 tries). Run ClearTemp... http://www.4shared.com/file/50007273...ClearTemp.html Then Boot again!!
Menu
At this moment there is no back key mapped. So the only way to get out of the menu is by soft-reset. Ppl are working on this issue, tyring to map de back key.
FREEZES
You are probably using the original zImage of SH4Y'S CAB. Use one of the latest zImages...
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All I did was download the files, install the cab, and run HaRET and try to boot. I get the "booting linux" screen and then the linux "boot list" but then it hangs. I'll post a few pictures. My rom doesn't have a screenshot grabber, plus I don't think you can get a screenshot when you aren't even running WM?
Click Here for a way to create a fresh kernel (zImage.bin) which is possibly the fix for the hermes.
Click Here for images of Android running on a TyTN II.
EDIT: Ok so I know why its hanging on the loader... The kernel is compiled for the wrong processor. The vogue uses a different processor than the hermes. Working on this.

carcomp said:
Whoops! not so fast.
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The phone power, reset and AT CMD serial port settings are missing
in the hh.org CVS kernel. It's not very difficult to do, but nobody
has done it so far.

Interesting...Here's the original hermes discussion thread on linux (over 100 posts):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273579&page=5&highlight=Android

Looks very cool, but I guess a long way before it will work with all hardware like, radio, wifi, bt etc?
Perhaps I hang on to my Hermes for a while to run Android!

jompao said:
Looks very cool, but I guess a long way before it will work with all hardware like, radio, wifi, bt etc?
Perhaps I hang on to my Hermes for a while to run Android!
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Honestly I was thinking of jumping ships to either an iphone or a clone but I think I may wait a year and see what happens to the hermes with android. It would be nice to get it and play with it for a while so in a year I will know exactly what I want to buy and the market will have settled down a little bit.

I have compiled new zImage and HaRET. In default.txt I have lines:
Code:
set kernel zImage
set initrd initrd-android
set cmdline "root=/dev/ram0"
boot
I loaded newest initrd-android from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
With these settings Hermes boots and it even set system clock (2028-07-05 10:40:21 ) but hangs after that, HaRet says in last line: "Freeing init memory 88k" and thats it. The initrd-android is not for Hermes and I don`t know how to make new one for Hermes. Or is this memory freeing thing more about problems with zImage?

Did you compiled it with the HTC HERMES flag?
Maybe you can upload the zimage/Harret to your post? sow more people can play with it... would be cool.
I also tried to compile a new zimage...it compiled, but it stucked at booting it with Harret. "Load kernel image" (or something like that)

Here it is. I used branch "work" and from there you can found htchermes_defconfig.

Thx..
I have the same issue as you have
But it dont give any error messages...and some key's on the keyboard(buttons) still give some respons on the screen...
And when you boot it with the usb connector with it, it says something more about that conexxion..

carcomp said:
The following is taken from the thread "http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
All I did was download the files, install the cab, and run HaRET and try to boot. I get the "booting linux" screen and then the linux "boot list" but then it hangs. I'll post a few pictures. My rom doesn't have a screenshot grabber, plus I don't think you can get a screenshot when you aren't even running WM?
Click Here for a way to create a fresh kernel (zImage.bin) which is possibly the fix for the hermes.
Click Here for images of Android running on a TyTN II.
EDIT: Ok so I know why its hanging on the loader... The kernel is compiled for the wrong processor. The vogue uses a different processor than the hermes. Working on this.
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I can't even run haret.exe (the android entry in Accessories). It says it's not a valid Pocket PC application. Any ideas??
I'm running CRC's WM6.1 v11.0.

Android Running on HTC Hermes
Hi guys, I've two days trying to run android on my htc herm100 but I can't do it. Someome may help me to compile a new kernel whit the features of my htc?? The only thing that i did was run linux on my device.

lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.

GldRush98 said:
lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.
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People said that about WM6.1 on many phones, and its been ported all the way back to the BlueAngel

veyka said:
People said that about WM6.1 on many phones, and its been ported all the way back to the BlueAngel
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dude...
It's not a simple matter or using the right version of this or that, or configuring it a certain way.
Haret will never run on the Hermes, making it impossible to ever run Android.
Hermes hardware is too old and too slow to run Andriod.
Haret can't even access the sd-card. Even if some how, some one re coded haret with the proper driver (which will not happen), there are still 100 other hurdles to over-come. They would have to get the graphics acceleration working with the ATI chip, Wifi drivers, Bluetooth drivers, etc... not to mention the actual instructions set of Andriod won't even run on the processor in the Hermes.
It will never run on the Hermes.
If you want to run Andriod, you should buy a device that supports it. Hermes will never be one of them.

GldRush98 said:
dude...
It's not a simple matter or using the right version of this or that, or configuring it a certain way.
Haret will never run on the Hermes, making it impossible to ever run Android.
Hermes hardware is too old and too slow to run Andriod.
Haret can't even access the sd-card. Even if some how, some one re coded haret with the proper driver (which will not happen), there are still 100 other hurdles to over-come. They would have to get the graphics acceleration working with the ATI chip, Wifi drivers, Bluetooth drivers, etc... not to mention the actual instructions set of Andriod won't even run on the processor in the Hermes.
It will never run on the Hermes.
If you want to run Andriod, you should buy a device that supports it. Hermes will never be one of them.
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Ahh! Seems you know more about it than I do ^^ Well, I dont expect my Hermes to, but hopefully my Kaiser

GldRush98 said:
Haret will never run on the Hermes
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what do you mean when you say that? I have used Haret on Hermes.

GldRush98 said:
lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.
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is this some kind of a subliminal reverse-psychology message designed to challenge some dormant genius out there to waste a coupla month of his life to prove u wrong for the benefit of everyone else here at xda-dev?! ... if so, keep it up.. I hope such genius(es) picks up this post and gets all fired up and go "HOW DARE HE! I'LL SHOW HIM"... then.. *tick...tick...tick*.....*ping!*...
oh and while ur at it... Android will NEVER run on the Trinity either!!!

Funny thing....
Hi there,
it's getting funny how many poeple out there discuss the android on hermes issue.
Basically it's not the speed of MPU or a memory issue on hermes platform.
I'm quite sure that android would do it quite well on a machine with 400MHz and 64MB of RAM .
Android in fact has another important basic requirement:
It will require at least Xscale CPU or SoC with ARM926 or higher to run properly.
All binaries in the root filesystem of android are compiled to run on an ARM platform with at least V5 instruction set.
Some older devices use some kind of PXA SoC's or OMAP SoC's which talk V5.
That's why android may be ported to run on those .
Hermes uses ARM920T SoC with ARMv4 instruction set, so a standard Android root image will not work.
That's the reason why it will be very evil thing to make it ever run on the hermes platfrom.
Someone has to fix all parts of the source code that requires V5 instructions and do a complete compile of all binaries suitable for V4 command set.
Of course to do all this a nearly complete linux subset is needed too.
As already mentioned the kernel for hermes is far away from some kind of usability .
Nevertheless, it would be very cool to get any kind of linux run nicely on hermes. Please help out with reverse engineering and writing drivers to make this come true. Perhaps also other dreams may become reality this way
Best regards,
scholbert

ROM emulator for PC available?

I´m having a small problem: I use a cooked ROM but some friends don´t and sometimes, when they have a question I get into trouble, because their ROM looks different and some settings are in different places.
So my tought is: why not use an emulator so that I can see their ROM on the pc and can then give hints far quicker and without the need to my hands on that
I´ve searched quite a while but found nothing regarding this matter. All I´ve seen is the MS device emulator but I don´t know if that loads different ROMs than the ones that come from MS.
Therefor my question is: does anyone know of a ROM emulator for a pc?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
cu,
Thilo

this may help http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...12-CA31-4BE9-A3BF-B9BF4F64CE72&displaylang=en

I used this and also the Microsoft Developer Studio platform contains built in emulators, but there is no (easy) way you will be able to emulate Diamond or other ROMs in it - the hardware phones are generic devices. There are images for WM6 and 6.1 also. It's great fun installing TomTom etc and testing that sort of thing on your PC, but custom ROMs...not likely.
The MS Studio WM6.1 images are in a .msi file which is a 280Mb download.
Check this and the links at the bottow:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...AF-12E3-4B2F-A394-356E2C2FB114&displaylang=en
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...3a-a651-4745-88ef-3d48091a390b&displaylang=en
However, I'm 99% sure one of their emulators hosed my PC totally (Probably the CE 5 one). Not sure what or how it happened but a key file (related to the emulator) got corrupted and trashed XP.....ordinarlily I'd have laughed at that suggestion - except I had to rebuild my PC as a result.

Ok, so I´ll do a complete backup (image) first .
I´ll try your suggested MS software product tomorrow. Of course I don´t want to be able to simulate the gyro sensors, the build-in gps functionality and so on.
It would suit me just to be able to simulate e.g. the original t-mobile ROM or the original HTC ROM.
I´ll check what can be done in that direction.
Thanks for your suggestions!
bye,
Thilo

[Q] Help rom upgrade

Hello everybody!
I recently found this old Qtek 9090 with Windows Mobile 2003, and I'd like to upgrade the OS to Windows Mobile 6 (in Italian) and then use it as a navigator...
I've already searched in this forum, but most of the links and downloads don't run, I suppose because this is an old matter...
I need also information about how to upgrade the rom... and I've read that I need also a "preparation pack" for WM2003 to use before upgrading, but I can't find a working link to the download.
Until now I found and downloaded this... "RC5 23698 Multi-Rom" by d-two... it is a .nbf file... but I actually don't know what to do with this file.
I apologize of having posted a new thread, I've already read a lot of posts in this forum, but the more I read, the more I get confused :S
I hope someone can help me, thanks a lot!

lukarons said:
Hello everybody!
I recently found this old Qtek 9090 with Windows Mobile 2003, and I'd like to upgrade the OS to Windows Mobile 6 (in Italian) and then use it as a navigator...
I've already searched in this forum, but most of the links and downloads don't run, I suppose because this is an old matter...
I need also information about how to upgrade the rom... and I've read that I need also a "preparation pack" for WM2003 to use before upgrading, but I can't find a working link to the download.
Until now I found and downloaded this... "RC5 23698 Multi-Rom" by d-two... it is a .nbf file... but I actually don't know what to do with this file.
I apologize of having posted a new thread, I've already read a lot of posts in this forum, but the more I read, the more I get confused :S
I hope someone can help me, thanks a lot!
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Look in the thread and download the updater...
Use you win 7 64bit?

d-two said:
Look in the thread and download the updater...
Use you win 7 64bit?
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Thank you for the help...
Yes, I'm using win 7 64 bit on my notebook, but if this is a problem I can use my old desktop with win XP sp2 32 bit! I've already downloaded your rom and also the updater!

lukarons said:
Thank you for the help...
Yes, I'm using win 7 64 bit on my notebook, but if this is a problem I can use my old desktop with win XP sp2 32 bit! I've already downloaded your rom and also the updater!
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Yes, better you use XP, if you have wm2003 on the blueangel you must only connect it on the PC, if you have WM5 or higher you mus put the blueangel into bootloader modus!

d-two said:
Yes, better you use XP, if you have wm2003 on the blueangel you must only connect it on the PC, if you have WM5 or higher you mus put the blueangel into bootloader modus!
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So, I just have to connect the device and run the updater, right?

lukarons said:
So, I just have to connect the device and run the updater, right?
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Yes, sounds easy, right

d-two said:
Yes, sounds easy, right
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the updater crashes while "Checking the information on your device... Please wait..."
What's wrong?
ok, sorry, I just forgot to put the .nbf file into the updater folder...
ok, upgrade successful! But now my pc doesn't recognize the device when I connect it... and I need to enter the device memory! What can I do?

lukarons said:
the updater crashes while "Checking the information on your device... Please wait..."
What's wrong?
ok, sorry, I just forgot to put the .nbf file into the updater folder...
ok, upgrade successful! But now my pc doesn't recognize the device when I connect it... and I need to enter the device memory! What can I do?
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Go to ->Settings->connection->USB and test different settings!

d-two said:
Go to ->Settings->connection->USB and test different settings!
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It doesn't work... Windows recognizes a device called "Blue Angel" but can't find its drivers and the Windows Mobile utility of win7 doesn't recognize it...

The Update failed and now. the BlueAngel is in Bootloader mode.
Any ideas what I could do now?

great sreye

sabrinah said:
The Update failed and now. the BlueAngel is in Bootloader mode.
Any ideas what I could do now?
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hi did you get it sorted
same here my device is stuck now as well on the m#bootloader .cant do any thing at all after that or cant even get it out of the bootloaader. third today searching the forum any one who can help me out on that
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d-two said:
Yes, better you use XP, if you have wm2003 on the blueangel you must only connect it on the PC, if you have WM5 or higher you mus put the blueangel into bootloader modus!
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hi i got wm 2003 ba . i connected it straight and now m stuck in bootloader any help please .searching every where for it . and i got win 8 64 bit but this happened on win 7 32 bit .

read and try to understand D-Two's how to- it is all written there.
Common posting rule: first search, then read, then search again, read again, and if still nothing found: post
... and for sure you'll get helped.

thanks

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What for?
btw: i forgot to write it's crucial to tell exactly what you've done before you ran into problems...
Few of us have second sight