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Slightly Annoyed

I've been trying to find a way to install individual maps for my Artemis but it seems I am stuck with TomToms BS way of dealing with them.
Ok, so I start Tom Tom home and look for CH... I only see DE, AT & CH. +all major EU roads... and I think to myself, "heh, no, I'll stick to CH only thanks". WRONG. Tomtom will not let me.
I don't want to install Austria and Germany if I want my CH map... Why on earth do I have to do that?? I only want the CH map, plain and simple, that's it, I'll install AT and DE when I want/need!!... It takes up 300 MB off my SD card on stuff I will not use anyway
Then I try to calm down and think "hmm maybe CH is too small for it to be worth the bother thus they decided to fuse it to the others"... THEN I SEE CANARY ISLAND worth just over 3MB...arrrrrghhhhh!!! why why why
Anyway, sorry for the rant but I needed to let the steam off. Now, does anyone of you know of a way on installing CH (or any fused map for that matter) individually?
Help would be much appreciated.
Cheers

You might be frustrated mister, but still your language is offending, even with the ***'s.
Here we 'act' like gentlemen (and women)

as you mentioned the map you have includes all the coutries (Ger, Aut, Ch + major EU roads).
So you cant extract or what ever only one coutry.
Go to the tomtom page and see if you can buy a map only for your loved CH or live with the FREE Ger and Aut maps
Cheers a german guy...

astrodemoniac - what version of TomTom Navigator version are you using? (I will assume that you upgraded to the 6.03 on the HTC site).
What version of TTN Maps are you using?
*TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on DVD
*TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & regional maps on memory card
*TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on memory card
Let us know and we will take this a small step at a time to help you with your problem

gianna68 said:
You might be frustrated mister, but still your language is offending, even with the ***'s.
Here we 'act' like gentlemen (and women)
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Edited for the easily offended.
I hope you really "'are" gentlemen (and women) otherwise if you only "act" then it'd be rather hypocritical
amokoma said:
as you mentioned the map you have includes all the coutries (Ger, Aut, Ch + major EU roads).
So you cant extract or what ever only one coutry.
Go to the tomtom page and see if you can buy a map only for your loved CH or live with the FREE Ger and Aut maps
Cheers a german guy...
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Ok, the fact the software comes bundled with the device doesn't mean it's FREE as you want to point out. I paid for the device and believe you me that they do charge you for it
Oh and it's not about my "loved" CH and hated evil "DE,AT" it's about choice. What I need and what I don't. In my case, I don't need the other countries, why should I have to waste over 200MB of my card's space on it. Sorry if I am not a conformist.
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astrodemoniac - what version of TomTom Navigator version are you using? (I will assume that you upgraded to the 6.03 on the HTC site).
What version of TTN Maps are you using?
*TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on DVD
*TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & regional maps on memory card
*TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on memory card
Let us know and we will take this a small step at a time to help you with your problem
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Thanks for providing the first helpful reply I am using
*TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on DVD
TomTom Home version 1.5 Build 032
On the Device I am using TomTom for pocket PC
What else can I provide?

astrodemoniac said:
Ok, the fact the software comes bundled with the device doesn't mean it's FREE as you want to point out. I paid for the device and believe you me that they do charge you for it
Oh and it's not about my "loved" CH and hated evil "DE,AT" it's about choice. What I need and what I don't. In my case, I don't need the other countries, why should I have to waste over 200MB of my card's space on it. Sorry if I am not a conformist.
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Of corse your are right, you have/had to pay for it, but there is no CH only map available für TomTom as you can see on www.tomtom.com . And as i mentioned there is no way (i think) of extracting the CH part of the DACH package.
And its a pitty i can't "delete" or what ever the A/CH part of my DACH map, so i could save space too.

astrodemoniac said:
Thanks for providing the first helpful reply I am using
*TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on DVD
TomTom Home version 1.5 Build 032
On the Device I am using TomTom for pocket PC
What else can I provide?
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Give me some time to see what I can find out for you.

astrodemoniac said:
Then I try to calm down and think "hmm maybe CH is too small for it to be worth the bother thus they decided to fuse it to the others"... THEN I SEE CANARY ISLAND worth just over 3MB...arrrrrghhhhh!!! why why why
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Canary Island, you say? Just hold a second! Sure you are using an official version? Canary Island was used to activate some cracked maps with new tomtom versions! Afaik, no other reason for this map to be there!
greetz

thormdac said:
Canary Island, you say? Just hold a second! Sure you are using an official version? Canary Island was used to activate some cracked maps with new tomtom versions! Afaik, no other reason for this map to be there!
greetz
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Well it's there, what are you implying?
I am surely not the only one with an Artemis Premium so I'd suggest you go inform and educate yourself by asking others before making stupid comments.
Longhair said:
Give me some time to see what I can find out for you.
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Sure, thanks for helping

astrodemoniac said:
Sure, thanks for helping
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I didn't forget about you, I've just been kind of busy as of late

Longhair said:
I didn't forget about you, I've just been kind of busy as of late
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Hey at least you are trying to help!! and I really appreciate it of course I understand that you need time, it's ok and thanks again.

Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 on HD

Mobile Navigator 7 has just been released for PPC.
http://www.navigon.com/site/int/en/shop/consumer/pda/1246
It has:
# Intuitive user interface
# Precise audio instructions
# Reality View Pro (only available in landscape format)
# Text to speech - the relevant road names are announced by the system in route descriptions and navigation instructions (available in the following countries: Austria, France, UK, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Liechtenstein, Belgium, Luxemburg, Switzerland)
# Lane Assistant Pro
# Quickest, shortest and ideal route
# Real Signpost Display
# Speed Assistant
# "Go home" function
# 2D/3D view
# Route planning with diverse reference points
# Door-to-door navigation
# Logbook
# Free TMC reception (not available in all countries)
# POIs on the route
# Speed camea information (speed camera information is not permitted in all countries. Please check the legal situation in the country you are travelling in)
# Extended free functions*
# Weather service - 3-day weather forecasts
# HRS (Hotel Reservation System) - find hotels
I have the Navigon 2100max PNA and prefer Navigon to TomTom and IGo etc. Very pleased with it so the PDA version should be just as good.
Here are the xml modifications to support HD res. Have not tried it yet as I don't have the phone yet.

Im hoping this works, 'cause navigator 6 hangs on my HD as well as on my girlfriends Omnia. Haven't found the reason yet, but I think it's a resolution thing...

hangin nav
Maarten_0031 said:
Im hoping this works, 'cause navigator 6 hangs on my HD as well as on my girlfriends Omnia. Haven't found the reason yet, but I think it's a resolution thing...
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It shouldnt hang. I have TT nav 7 VGA works like a dream and is gorgeous on the HD.

Hello
I confirm it's works
Thanks

bouya_k said:
Hello
I confirm it's works
Thanks
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Work it with the intern GPS? I read that Navigon 7 have problems with this.

bouya_k said:
Hello
I confirm it's works
Thanks
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You mean this new Navigon 7 PDA version I posted in the link works on the HD?
Did you use the attached xmls?
Is it full screen and hi res?
Thanks!

Their website doesn't show the Touch HD as a compatible device:
http://www.navigon.com/site/int/en/service_support/compatibility
Never used navigon, but I like what I see!

Yes but it supports other windows mobile devices and you know what, they are nearly all the same at the end of the day. As I said, I have the Navigon 2100max. Bought it half price for £99 from Halfords. It uses MN7 software which is fast. Love it.

Here is a trailer for Mobile Navigator 7 for those who have never used it to see what its like. Its very popular in Europe but less so in UK as TomTom seem to be the leaders.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=f9EKPImocZ4
It has literally just been released. Launch date is tomorrow - 17th November.

tboy2000 said:
Here is a trailer for Mobile Navigator 7 for those who have never used it to see what its like. Its very popular in Europe but less so in UK as TomTom seem to be the leaders.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=f9EKPImocZ4
It has literally just been released. Launch date is tomorrow - 17th November.
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Looks very interesting. It has speed warning? Is that by comparing your actual speed against the legal limit of that particular stretch of road or merely against a preset speed?
Do they have maps for Australia?

tboy2000 said:
You mean this new Navigon 7 PDA version I posted in the link works on the HD?
Did you use the attached xmls?
Is it full screen and hi res?
Thanks!
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Hello
I tried without your xml and my navigon 7 hang at startup... after I applied your xml no problem.. full screen
thanks for them

I would like to buy Nav 7 but have no idea how to install it on m HD. What should I do with the xml files?

boba23 said:
How do you guys judge the TTS quality of Navigon 7? I am also considering buying it, mainly because I hope that I get a good, and working TTS system with it. Those "hacked" TTS files that fly around for iGO8 are well .... crap in my eyes.
boba
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Well, same with me! Is there anything not nice with the MN7 on the HD?

tboy2000 said:
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# Free TMC reception (not available in all countries)
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Hi,
how does TMC reception exactly work - will it use the implemented radio module? I mean, if I buy MN7 and install it on my HD, will I automatically be able to use TMC (with headset antenna plugged in, I mean)? Or do I need additional hardware? Mobile navigation does not make sense to me without TMC (in Germany ...), and I wonder if I really can throw away my PNA and use the Touch HD instead.
Eriol

A few answers to above questions.
I am happy with the UK Text to speech. Announces roads very well.
Not sure about if TMC uses radio built into phone as I dont have HD yet but I presume it does. I also presume you would need to plug in a usb lead or headphones to act as the antenna just like in the PNA version.
According to Navigon, TMC reception is available at no charge in the following countries: A, B, CH, CZ, D, DK, E, I, N, NL, S.
As for installing it, copy the folders in the download to the root of your SD card. Then go to folder 2577 and hit the install05 cab. Then copy the xml files in the 1st post and overwrite them with the relevant ones on the sd card.

tboy2000 said:
As for installing it, copy the folders in the download to the root of your SD card. Then go to folder 2577 and hit the install05 cab. Then copy the xml files in the 1st post and overwrite them with the relevant ones on the sd card.
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Is the solution you present here using the full 800x480 pixel screen size or is it just stretching 640x480 to 800x480 (as proposed in some German navigation forums some weeks ago)?
I wonder why Navigon has not yet changed its MN7 to the realities and offers a true 800x480 product ...
As for the TMC: I read in different forums that TMC would not work, but none of the posters was able to test this. Another option would be to download traffic data via internet; TomTom is able to do this now with its latest PDA versions.
Eriol

MN 6.2.5...
Eriol said:
Is the solution you present here using the full 800x480 pixel screen size or is it just stretching 640x480 to 800x480 (as proposed in some German navigation forums some weeks ago)?
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Actually I don't know how it works with MN7, however I changed just the "BinaryConfig.xml" into the MN 6.2.5 version... and I found the stretched result pretty ugly !!
So I came back with the "normal" resolution of 640x480... and it works well, even if a part of the screen isn't used... ;-)

Read post 11. He has tried it and says it is fullscreen. Maybe he can tell us if it looks good or not.

MN 6.2.5
tboy2000 said:
Read post 11. He has tried it and says it is fullscreen. Maybe he can tell us if it looks good or not.
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That's exactly what I'm trying to explain... ;-)
I did it in "fullscreen" with the version 6.2.5... and the result is awful !! Icons and menus are completely deformed...
That way, I don’t like it at all, however it’s just my point of view... ;-)

Yes but you have said you have used version 6.2.5. This thread is about version 7.0 so MN7 may be different on full screen and improved.

[31.07.2009] TMC now working without external Hardware!!!

Hi,
Tmc work on Touch HD with a little tool (attached here).
TMC developers thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497977
beemers TMC thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630
Load and install the two attached cab files, then:
start HyperGPS
select a free Com Port for TMC
go to menu > Test and search TMC with the arrows
message RTTMC in receive windows means TMC available (Pic 4)
if TMC found, close test windows with OK
leave HyperGPS in the background and start iGO
go to settings > TMC
search a TMC broadcaster
What is new in Beta 8:
-Full GNS protocol support. Tested under iGO and Navigon
GNS needs TMC+GPS option to be selected althought if it is not, HyperGPS will send fake GPS sentences.
-Less CPU consumption and lower memory footprint
-Optimized test program: Now RSSI is correctly shown under Royaltek mode, unused buttons are hidden under GNS mode and all the behaviour has been polished.
-RDS and TMC indicator in test program.
-Log mode redesigned to make more useful and readable logs.
-Removed fake RDS message under Royaltek mode. Not necessary with correct timmings.
-Soved an issue with block ratio not always sent.
my iGO settings in system.ini:
[tmc]
saved_config_available="0"
saved_config_classname="NMEA_GPSTMC_ROYALTEK"
saved_config_portname="COM"
saved_config_port="9"
saved_last_tuning_mode="0"
auto_tuning="0"
saved_last_frequency="1047"
YouTube - TMC and iGO
Special thanks to beemerTPPC and all TMC developers.
with friendly greet
starbase64

You guys are incredible, and xda-dev is an amazing forum!!!!!!!
When, even iGO responsibles of the support section strictly answer that the HD isn't able to provide a TMC function with its radio receiver, you still believe that it's possible, give yourselves the means to make it happen, and success!!!!
BRAVO!!!
...'ll test this soon

it doesnt work on my hd....
tested all the com ports but no way.... it says it cannot open com port....
I have installed both the files, any help ???
Mau

TMC found in iGo, but no TMC-stations can be found in Sweden so far...

Does this work in the UK with iGO8? Reason why i ask that TMC is found in iGO8 but no TMC stations found. I have the headset plugged in and it's scanned all FM radio frequencies (testing.... no TMC signal found). The funny thing is, on the main screen where the TMC icon is, i have a yellow envelope. Clicking the car icon, then the car icon in a triangle, it takes me to a section called "Traffic Alerts" where 2 events are listed for roadworks. (1. A3211 westminster bridge - tower bridge & 2. A23 thorton - heath purley). So it must have picked up a signal at some point. Any help please ?

starbase64,
thanks a lot. I just follow in last two weeks all efforts (thanks to flywhc and other team) to obtain TMC function avalaible on htc devices. In my case I have a touch HD. Now I just installed u sw, and config and TMC signal is OK. Now remain only to test on the road...
Thanks again. I hope to give u feedback asap.

It worked once and then it broke.
It says it cant load the driver so i uninstalled,re installed beemercert.cab and then tried to reinstall the app but now it say it can't as it doesn't have permission.

WOW! This is so good. HTC dvices always have hidden options. The only bad thing is missing tmc services in my coutry, macedonia

Griff1 said:
It worked once and then it broke.
It says it cant load the driver so i uninstalled,re installed beemercert.cab and then tried to reinstall the app but now it say it can't as it doesn't have permission.
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Same problem here, worked once, and then after softreset cannot open com port anymore.

I know,gutted or what.
I'm just pondering a hard reset,would rather not but i really want this working.
EDIT: I might wait a while till my next Dutty rom,will probably be soon,lol.

Griff1 said:
It worked once and then it broke.
It says it cant load the driver so i uninstalled,re installed beemercert.cab and then tried to reinstall the app but now it say it can't as it doesn't have permission.
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same here aswell using dutty`s v3.3XT

Gotta be realistic, while its nice to have, this is "only" OpenTMC, in Germany known to be around 20-40 minutes behind real traffic situation. This is not TMCPro with realtime traffic data through road sensors.
But indeed it is fantastic for the masterminds behind this activation to have achieved this. Respect.
OpenTMC around the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_Message_Channel#TMC_services_in_operation

stokesie said:
same here aswell using dutty`s v3.3XT
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Same here, using dutty's 3.3. I downloaded the setup files from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3730090#post3730090 (page 35) and reinstalled and all working again.
Also, anyone know what frequency UK TMC is broadcast on?

works on htc diamond?

Originally Posted by Griff1 View Post:
It worked once and then it broke.
It says it cant load the driver so i uninstalled,re installed beemercert.cab and then tried to reinstall the app but now it say it can't as it doesn't have permission"
Same problem here, worked once, and then after softreset cannot open com port anymore.

IO ME MEDESIMO said:
works on htc diamond?
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Yes, it does.

works nice with my blackstone and tmc is found here in NRW.
but
after close/restart it still works due to the driver is still loaded but as soon as its beeing unloaded for the first time I get the same error that driver cannot be loaded again - check COM port or install certs. even after softreset and reinstalling certs it doesnt work until i replace gfmapi.dll in \windows

usrname said:
it doesnt work until i replace gfmapi.dll in \windows
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Thats what i'm finding too.

Does it work in netherlands

Have you read the messages in this thread? Hint: Post 12

TP2: GPS included or Not; Tom Tom or Garmin

Hi All
A question for those that already have a TP2. Does it have GPS or A-GPS?
Which is better: TomTom or Garmin and why?
Can you load this software on you 16GB SD card with all your music etc so that you don't have to hot swap cards?
Thanks for the assitance

calli said:
Hi All
A question for those that already have a TP2. Does it have GPS or A-GPS?
Which is better: TomTom or Garmin and why?
Can you load this software on you 16GB SD card with all your music etc so that you don't have to hot swap cards?
Thanks for the assitance
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TP2 comes with A-GPS, I tried both TomTom and Garmin, unfortunately both have map drawing lag on my, so I use Igo8.
Also I am using 16GB MircoSD. and listen to music too.

My Igo doesn't work
radiowc said:
TP2 comes with A-GPS, I tried both TomTom and Garmin, unfortunately both have map drawing lag on my, so I use Igo8.
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Dear radiowc,
I cannot get Igo to run on my TP2. (See this thread). Can you tell me what version of Igo you are using and post your sys.txt? This might help me.

I am using IGO8 8.3.2.83157
Attached is my sys.txt... kind of long too :>

radiowc said:
TP2 comes with A-GPS, I tried both TomTom and Garmin, unfortunately both have map drawing lag on my, so I use Igo8.
Also I am using 16GB MircoSD. and listen to music too.
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Have you tried the latest Garmin Mobile XT update from the Garmin website?
Works really well on mine landscape and portrait with no map lag.

Farsquidge said:
Have you tried the latest Garmin Mobile XT update from the Garmin website?
Works really well on mine landscape and portrait with no map lag.
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Hmm, that strange... well i will try again and post it here if it is better. Thanks

radiowc said:
I am using IGO8 8.3.2.83157
Attached is my sys.txt... kind of long too :>
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Dear radiowc,
Thanks for your help, however I solved the problem by adding these to lines to my sys.txt:
[device]
sdcard_dsk_num=7

andrehj said:
Dear radiowc,
Thanks for your help, however I solved the problem by adding these to lines to my sys.txt:
[device]
sdcard_dsk_num=7
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Glad I can help , the rest of the setting mainly just some customized setting

IGO8
radiowc said:
TP2 comes with A-GPS, I tried both TomTom and Garmin, unfortunately both have map drawing lag on my, so I use Igo8.
Also I am using 16GB MircoSD. and listen to music too.
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Hi Can you please direct me to web site where you purchased/downloaded IGO8 from?
I need to purchase and find Maps for South Africa and other locations.
Your help will be greatly appreciated
Calli

please help me i installed igo 8.3.4.102680 on tp2 with wm6.5
it starts but on mainscreenload it says
"FFUIERROR: Unknown layer referenced Identifier=[ui_DriverAlertPic]
i already copied the sys.txt of this post but.. nothing
what can i do?

Has anyone tried the Navagon GPS yet.
I have a stand alone Navagon and I love it. It has lane assist and many other features that Garamon and TomTom are just now introducing on their units. Navagon had it 2 years ago. I've looked at it on their website and it seems to have all the features as the standalone unit.
I was wondering if anyone had tried it to see if there were any lag or other problems. If not then I'll probably get it so when I fly somewhere I won't have to bring my standalone.
They have demo versions for other countries but not the USA.

{help} gps for cycling software?

hi im looking for software to use while cycling. off the beaton track. one i can upload routes to so i know where im going not just one that tells me where ive been anyone got any ideas of what software is anygood? thanks

Does this help?
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/07...n-for-bike-enthusiasts-on-windows-mobile.html

the best bike gps software : http://www.rungps.net

Sportypal pretty good!

sportypal
have sporty pal .. good but the maps and the gps is a bit iffy.. but it's very good for what it does.. and you can do walking etc. but i will try other apps listed here .

sporty pal is good. As long as u dont let ur phone lock or turnoff it work ok. Really good data presentation!

iv found memory map which uses ordnance survey maps to be excellent for this type of thing.

thanks guys i had tried and just come up with junk i think these will work, will have a play with a few and see what i perfer, thanks again SpZero

GPSVP ppc
by far the best of the lot IMHO... although not the prettiest, ad takes some playing with to get the best out of it but it's open source!
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I've just used it to do a 372km/2 day ride to the HPV world champs in tilburg and back home again.. worked perfectly for me.
it'll read GPX files in (so plot them out in something like Bikely.com)
then use the pc version (or the PPC version) of gpsvp to download all the map tiles from google/live.com or openstreetmap..
It'll also handle Garmin compatible maps, so you can find openstreetmaps in that format as well..
when you've got all the raster maps you need (at all the zoom levels you need) transfer the folder to the ppc and setup the app..
Obviously if you've got data access while out you can download maps on the fly so to speak.. But I didn't while roaming.
http://code.google.com/p/gpsvp/

Memory-Map for the UK
matty538 said:
iv found memory map which uses ordnance survey maps to be excellent for this type of thing.
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I couldn't agree more. I use Memory-Map (http://www.memory-map.co.uk) for cycling and walking with my HD and it's just brilliant. Large maps with great detail on the big screen. You'd need to carry at least 1-2 spare batteries though to last you through a full day...
The software logs your track to upload to your computer and then convert for Google Earth to share with the rest of the world.
A great website for UK cycling routes ready to use is: http://www.gps-routes.co.uk
Have fun, Alex.

+1 for Memory-Map, have used it in the UK with 50k and 25k series maps on HD.

Dont forget the one and only "GPSCycleComputer". Very good program, and its free!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423

vikeor said:
sporty pal is good. As long as u dont let ur phone lock or turnoff it work ok. Really good data presentation!
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Now I'm using more applications, but Sportypal and RunGPS for me are the one's that you must try, although rungps is not free. There is a trial version that you can try, after that you must enter validation code. Sportypal is completely free, and I enjoy playing with it. For cycling is good and it's pretty accurate. Couple of days ago I installed the 1.0.5 version and the problem with locking or going into stand by mode is fixed. Here is my workout info so you can see what it has to offer.
http://sportypal.com/Workouts/Details/13683