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I wonder why it is not possible to access internet over 3g during ordinary gms call. With iphone one can access net, receive mails even when you are on call. I tried same with diamond but it never worked.
Anyone know why it is so?
PS: I did try searching for related questions in this forum before posting. If you guys find any related thread, please guide me so but dont start bashing right away
You have to have enabled 3g on your phone and be in a reception area that allows 3g
goRt said:
You have to have enabled 3g on your phone and be in a reception area that allows 3g
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Tried that. Connected to HSPA and has very good reception but during call it never worked
ksekhar said:
Tried that. Connected to HSPA and has very good reception but during call it never worked
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Sorry, it works for me
goRt said:
Sorry, it works for me
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could you please share what rom you use and radio (i dont think radio has anything to do with that, still..)
also were you able to browse while on call?
ksekhar said:
could you please share what rom you use and radio (i dont think radio has anything to do with that, still..)
also were you able to browse while on call?
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I currently use CT 6.4 HD Lite, not tried browsing, but have activesync connected all day receiving mails whilst on calls
Radio is 1.8.25.20
i have the same problem, cannot use internet or send sms during any calls
Works fine on my Diamond. Using data and voice simultaneously is dependant on some factors though, namely your device, the networks capabilities, your signal, and strangely enough, a tweak some users use on their devices.
There's a bit more info here: http://support.wmwifirouter.com/knowledge/KB0802013/, it might explain it a bit better.
Chainfire said:
Works fine on my Diamond. Using data and voice simultaneously is dependant on some factors though, namely your device, the networks capabilities, your signal, and strangely enough, a tweak some users use on their devices.
There's a bit more info here: http://support.wmwifirouter.com/knowledge/KB0802013/, it might explain it a bit better.
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Thank you very much. This helps. I will try without registry tweaks this time.
I'm using T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 on AT&T network and cant receive calls when I'm on data network (read browsing, facebook app, slacker radio app).
I'm on AT&T EDGE. Is there anything that can be done to avoid this? Thanks.
blueguy19 said:
I'm using T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 on AT&T network and cant receive calls when I'm on data network (read browsing, facebook app, slacker radio app).
I'm on AT&T EDGE. Is there anything that can be done to avoid this? Thanks.
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The problem is that when you're using your T-mobile phone on the AT&T network, your data connection is through EDGE, not 3G...and one of the drawbacks to EDGE is that you can't have an active data connection at the same time as an active phone call.
It's a hardware restriction, caused by the different 3G bands AT&T and T-mobile use. Your only real solution would be to get an AT&T-branded phone so you can use their 3G bands, or start using t-mobile's network with your TP2 so you can use their 3G.
sirphunkee said:
The problem is that when you're using your T-mobile phone on the AT&T network, your data connection is through EDGE, not 3G...and one of the drawbacks to EDGE is that you can't have an active data connection at the same time as an active phone call.
It's a hardware restriction, caused by the different 3G bands AT&T and T-mobile use. Your only real solution would be to get an AT&T-branded phone so you can use their 3G bands, or start using t-mobile's network with your TP2 so you can use their 3G.
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Agreed that you can't do both at the same time, but it sounds like the phone should still automatically suspend the data session to take the phone call. Sounds like an application is forcing the data connection to stay active, what programs do you have installed?
Toleraen said:
Agreed that you can't do both at the same time, but it sounds like the phone should still automatically suspend the data session to take the phone call. Sounds like an application is forcing the data connection to stay active, what programs do you have installed?
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I think it would be nice if it worked that way....but that's not how it's been for me. Maybe there's a registry setting that makes it one way or the other, but on the custom roms I've used it doesn't work the "nice" way. Calls go to voice mail if I'm actively accessing/transferring data (on an EDGE connection).
Are you saying that your TP2 actually does suspend the data session -- from personal experience? Or just that it should be that way?
MCbrian said:
I think it would be nice if it worked that way....but that's not how it's been for me. Maybe there's a registry setting that makes it one way or the other, but on the custom roms I've used it doesn't work the "nice" way. Calls go to voice mail if I'm actively accessing/transferring data (on an EDGE connection).
Are you saying that your TP2 actually does suspend the data session -- from personal experience? Or just that it should be that way?
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I can't say for sure on my TP2 as I've generally got 3G coverage everywhere I go. When I was using my 8525 I specifically remember being impressed the first time I was in the middle of a download and it recovered after taking a phone call, was definitely a custom ROM too. Probably was WinMo 6.0 at that time though.
When you are using data and recieve a call it should stop data and allow the call to go thru when you are using EDGE. Since you are using a none AT&T device they probably wont fix the issue unless you reproduce the issue with an AT&T device. Also i tested this on my TMO TP2 by loading a website and making a call to my TP2 at the same time and it stopped my data as the call came thru then when i ignored the call it continued to load the website.
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When you are using data and recieve a call it should stop data and allow the call to go thru when you are using EDGE. Since you are using a none AT&T device they probably wont fix the issue unless you reproduce the issue with an AT&T device. Also i tested this on my TMO TP2 by loading a website and making a call to my TP2 at the same time and it stopped my data as the call came thru then when i ignored the call it continued to load the website.
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It may depend on other factors then -- like maybe what rom you're running. After I posted above I tested this again -- to confirm what I posted, by starting the download of a very large file. I then called my phone from a landline and sure-enough the call went to VM after a few rings. So, maybe just a characteristic of my ROM, but it's definitely true for me on T-Mo USA (on EDGE). When I stopped the download my phone received calls just fine, so it's not a general receiving-calls issue.
Tomorrow when I'm at work -- and have a full-strength 3G connection -- I'll try it again to confirm that it does receive during 3G data. I've done that test before -- I've received calls with my laptop tethered to the TP2 on 3G and kept the data connection and received the call, but I haven't tried with the rom I'm currently running.
Sik96teG said:
When you are using data and recieve a call it should stop data and allow the call to go thru when you are using EDGE. Since you are using a none AT&T device they probably wont fix the issue unless you reproduce the issue with an AT&T device. Also i tested this on my TMO TP2 by loading a website and making a call to my TP2 at the same time and it stopped my data as the call came thru then when i ignored the call it continued to load the website.
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I experienced the same thing with my EDGE-only Wizard (8125) on AT&T...incoming calls would be routed straight to voicemail if I had an active data connection going. And, whenever I would try to make an outgoing call, I would get an error message telling me that I couldn't make the call until I closed the data connection.
We all agree that EDGE can't multi-task like that, so to speak...but I think the issue of prioritizing or not prioritizing voice over data is handled at the device level, and/or by carrier control, rather than as a function of what the network can/can't do. My guess at this point is that there might be a reg setting that controls giving calls default priority at all times, but I have no idea what/where it is
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but I think the issue of prioritizing or not prioritizing voice over data is handled at the device level, and/or by carrier control, rather than as a function of what the network can/can't do. My guess at this point is that there might be a reg setting that controls giving calls default priority at all times, but I have no idea what/where it is
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking....well, guessing really -- I don't know. But I know what my experiment showed. A registry setting could explain why it would work for some and not others. Or could a different radio-rom possibly make a difference?
I have no idea.
MCbrian said:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking....well, guessing really -- I don't know. But I know what my experiment showed. A registry setting could explain why it would work for some and not others. Or could a different radio-rom possibly make a difference?
I have no idea.
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Now that you mention it, my money is on the radio (don't know why I didn't think of that).
blueguy, what radio are you using? And for that matter, what ROM? ATT, Tmo, or...? I'll test it on mine just like MCbrian did, since I have a different radio (.14), once I recall how to force my toy into EDGE-only mode. so, tomorrow morning
EDIT: sik96teg, same question to you...what radio/ROM are you using?
right now im on 4.49.25.57(i believe this is the stock tmo 6.5) radio and i have tried a few other radios over the last few monthes(never really tested them but dont recall this issue). i use to be on an energy rom and now im on leo cell evo rom. Also when i did have this issue a long time ago i called tmobile and they stated at the time it was a known issue and it was suppose to be resolved in a few days and a few days later it started to work. I also made about 10 calls and only one of them didnt come thru to the phone. My home phone rang for about 30 secs then went to vm but no indicator on the device but that only occured 1 out of 10 tries.
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Tomorrow when I'm at work -- and have a full-strength 3G connection -- I'll try it again to confirm that it does receive during 3G data. I've done that test before -- I've received calls with my laptop tethered to the TP2 on 3G and kept the data connection and received the call, but I haven't tried with the rom I'm currently running.
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Just confirming what I thought: On a 3G data connection, data-transfer continues and the voice call is received simultaneously, as it should.
Thanks for your inputs and my answers
I'm using Tmobile ROM which upgraded me from WinMo 6.1 to WinMo 6.5. I'm not sure what was the radio on it. But I flashed it with Hard-SPL and then with 4.49.25.88 Radio.
Even then the issue still persists
I read somewhere it happens due to NOM1 and NOM2 kind of EDGE network. NOM1 has capabilities to suspend data connection and give preference to phone call, NOM2 doesnt support this behavior. It seems AT&T is using NOM2 in my area. I'm not sure though if this is causing the issue that I'm experiencing.
I called AT&T Technical Support and they said they see my phone as Unkown device and can' support it.
Please this is really annoying, any help is appreciated.
Same here, I am currently with the new official (ok better leaked) ROM and the Radio that was provided (the latest).
The point is that when I am on 3G i can receive both data and calls which is obvious. Now after reading this thread I noticed that when I am on standard GSM and someone calls me, they get notified that my phone is switched off.
What is weird is the fact that there should have been an option to state Call over Data or the opposite for that matter. I think my old Nokia N95 had a similar option.
So, yeah, is that a bug or a feature?
i'm just guessing...but, I believe the simultaneous data/call is a function of 3G .....EDGE is the bare-bones basic thing....
at least that's how they make it sound in the commercials
....i should have read the replies in the thread...
stormrain said:
when I am on standard GSM and someone calls me, they get notified that my phone is switched off.
What is weird is the fact that there should have been an option to state Call over Data or the opposite for that matter. I think my old Nokia N95 had a similar option.
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When I tested this (on EDGE) by calling my TP2 from landline it went to voicemail. Another time I was on EDGE and someone tried to call me and they had your experience: "Out of area/unreachable". And this was within 24 hours, on the same rom without changing any setting (at least, not on purpose).
I've never seen an option to set data/voice priority.
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I flashed Energy ROM with .88 radio, it did improve download speed. But still don't receive calls while using data.
Is there any other ROM which allows this?
The Rhodium isn't capable of simultaneous data and voice.
You should have a GPRS Class A phone, but that should have 2 antennas. (See link)
So only one of them is active, data OR voice.
But normally it should pause the data connections and give priority to the voice connection.
ronh said:
The Rhodium isn't capable of simultaneous data and voice.
You should have a GPRS Class A phone, but that should have 2 antennas. (See link)
So only one of them is active, data OR voice.
But normally it should pause the data connections and give priority to the voice connection.
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I believe it IS capable, if you are on 3G data. Not if you are EDGE / GPRS.
ronh said:
The Rhodium isn't capable of simultaneous data and voice.
You should have a GPRS Class A phone, but that should have 2 antennas. (See link)
So only one of them is active, data OR voice.
But normally it should pause the data connections and give priority to the voice connection.
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stevedebi said:
I believe it IS capable, if you are on 3G data. Not if you are EDGE / GPRS.
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Yes -- it absolutely is, as stevedebi states, on 3G. So the limitation on EDGE isn't the phone, really, it's the nature of EDGE/GPRS.
I read something about you could install a GSM ROM on a CDMA phone if you but you would have no data. Excuse my noobishness, but what exactly would cease to work? 3G obviously, but I generally only use WiFi. So texting and internet via 3G would be down, but calling would still work, right?
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Calling also uses that CDMA stuff, so no, calling wouldn't work. You would have no signal whatsoever, unless you were using wifi.
lightningdude said:
Calling also uses that CDMA stuff, so no, calling wouldn't work. You would have no signal whatsoever, unless you were using wifi.
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RATS! Well, there goes that idea, lol!
when i am on a call i cant not see to get data...the data connection turns off by itself and when the call ends data connection will come back on? is it suppose to be like that or is there something wrong with the phone. right now im on software 1.28.708.10. thanks
marktang said:
when i am on a call i cant not see to get data...the data connection turns off by itself and when the call ends data connection will come back on? is it suppose to be like that or is there something wrong with the phone. right now im on software 1.28.708.10. thanks
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Happens to me too I believe my frined.
It only happens with mobile data though.
If you are on Wifi, the wifi should NOT disconnect right?
ya if it is on wifi then it is ok. not data connection though
I believe that the phone switches to 2g during calls, and not sure whether this is a telco setting that they do not allow calls through 3g, or a software feature of the phone with the reasoning that 2g signals are generally stronger in most parts of the world compared to 3g.
Just fyi i had the same issue on my "old" Desire HD.
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I believe that the phone switches to 2g during calls, and not sure whether this is a telco setting that they do not allow calls through 3g, or a software feature of the phone with the reasoning that 2g signals are generally stronger in most parts of the world compared to 3g.
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It might be carrier specific. I have no trouble getting (and keeping) HSPA data when I'm in a call.
which version do u have Barry? I am using the international version on rogers. Are you using the at&t version?
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It might be carrier specific. I have no trouble getting (and keeping) HSPA data when I'm in a call.
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Then I believe it to be carrier specific then since the software governing these kinda things should be standard across the board
marktang said:
which version do u have Barry? I am using the international version on rogers. Are you using the at&t version?
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A UK international version on AT&T.
Ok that is so strange. I have the Hong kong version on rogers network. It never happened to me before and I have used a lot of HTC and unlocked phones before.
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ok so i dont think its the carrier cuz i reset the phone and it works sometimes now. if i make a call and browse right away then it will work but if i leave it for too long then it wont work.
marktang said:
ok so i dont think its the carrier cuz i reset the phone and it works sometimes now. if i make a call and browse right away then it will work but if i leave it for too long then it wont work.
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guys its because the phone calls you make are on a 2g bandwidth unless its a video call, that's why if you have 2g connection or EDGE active it will get disabled as soon as you make a call.
to clarify, force your network settings to wcdma and then connect to 3g, after that make a call and your 3g will not be disconnected
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guys its because the phone calls you make are on a 2g bandwidth unless its a video call, that's why if you have 2g connection or EDGE active it will get disabled as soon as you make a call.
to clarify, force your network settings to wcdma and then connect to 3g, after that make a call and your 3g will not be disconnected
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i tried this and the 3g was displayed in notification bar.. but when i use this as hotspot, i hardly get connected to internet in my laptop (connected to phone) even the 3g was displayed.. this is really bring me down.. as i need to use hotspot while on travel and had conversation at the same time..
is there any other way to solve this?
thanks
Yup got it to work. Thanks.
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marktang said:
Yup got it to work. Thanks.
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Hi Marktang... I saw your post from Google as I lost data connection during phone call with my Galaxy S2.
May I know is it after configure the Network Mode inside the setting to use WCDMA only, then the problem will be solved?
Thank you...
Am I taking crazy pills or is suddenly internet browsing not possible while talking on this phone? I could swear this wasn't the case on my SGN2. Please christ tell me this isnt the case, or at least fixable (and yes, i know wifi, but wtf).
Jason
Iam not sure but I believe it depends on the network and the coverage on some areas
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Elhity said:
Iam not sure but I believe it depends on the network and the coverage on some areas
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If you have no 4g or lte and only 3g where you are at the time then you can't I think. Check your signal type next time.
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If you have no 4g or lte and only 3g where you are at the time then you can't I think. Check your signal type next time.
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I have 4g, cant browse while talking.
HughesNet said:
If you have no 4g or lte and only 3g where you are at the time then you can't I think. Check your signal type next time.
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jason370 said:
I have 4g, cant browse while talking.
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am i the only person who cant browse the internet while talking on the phone when a 4g signal is showing?
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am i the only person who cant browse the internet while talking on the phone when a 4g signal is showing?
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I am at work and on wifi. So have not tested yet. I guess I can test it now.
Nope, worked fine for me. I turned off wifi and waiting for the cell signal to establish then called my work extension and opened chrome and had no trouble. Call Recording via xposed worked fine for me to. I hadn't tested that one yet.
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I am at work and on wifi. So have not tested yet. I guess I can test it now.
Nope, worked fine for me. I turned off wifi and waiting for the cell signal to establish then called my work extension and opened chrome and had no trouble. Call Recording via xposed worked fine for me to. I hadn't tested that one yet.
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I have no idea what changed, but now it works. it hasnt worked for two days in two different locations in nyc, but now im golden.