T-mobile say no to win mob 6 - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Apologises if ppl are aware, but just to let you know T-mobile UK have confirmed they are not to release win mob 6 for vario 2.
Although I understand the reasons I find this annoying and shows a lack of support for present and existing devices.
part of the email sent to myself goes onto state...
"T-Mobile UK will be including Windows Mobile 6 on all new MDA devices
that are launched, starting with the MDA Touch in July and MDA Vario III
in September.
The existing devices in the portfolio will continue with Windows Mobile
5 for the remainder of their lives."

I asked T-Mobile in the Netherlands several months ago the seem question, and they said that there will be no ROM upgrade for the Vario II.
If you ask my opinion? I don't care, I like the cooked ROM's found on XDA!
So many benefits of home cooked ROMS(No more annoying t-mobile splash screens, no more pink soft buttons), huge storage, stable...go on go on!
CaZ

Caspertje19 said:
I asked T-Mobile in the Netherlands several months ago the seem question, and they said that there will be no ROM upgrade for the Vario II.
If you ask my opinion? I don't care, I like the cooked ROM's found on XDA!
So many benefits of home cooked ROMS(No more annoying t-mobile splash screens, no more pink soft buttons), huge storage, stable...go on go on!
CaZ
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I agree. I like most of the cooked roms here, and my Vario II has found renewed life due to roms like Schaps which is what is currently running on it. T-mobile also don't vale loyal customers that have 4 lines with them as I asked for an Ameo free as an upgrade to only 1 of those lines and they flat out refused me. sad to see they've gotten too big for their pants that they've forgotten who pays their wages by getting loyal multi line rental customers who spend well over £100 a month just in line rental alone not counting the addition services I get. They seem to think they can make up revenue in new subscribers rather then keep loyal ones

Caspertje19 said:
I asked T-Mobile in the Netherlands several months ago the seem question, and they said that there will be no ROM upgrade for the Vario II.
If you ask my opinion? I don't care, I like the cooked ROM's found on XDA!
So many benefits of home cooked ROMS(No more annoying t-mobile splash screens, no more pink soft buttons), huge storage, stable...go on go on!
CaZ
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Some people don't want to invalidate their warranty by flashing different ROM's.
If HTC, O2 and other networks around the world can release WM6 why can't T-Mobile??? They're taking the p*ss!!
Lets all bombard them with e-mails!!

Hi there ...
I got an answer from T-Mobile Germany ... an they will release a WM6 for Vario II.
Sehr geehrter Herr M. ,
vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage an T-Mobile.
Wir können Ihnen mitteilen, daß das Update Ende 3.Quartal erscheint.
Vorraussichtlich schon zwischen August und September.
Danke für Ihre Geduld.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
T-Mobile ServiceCenter - Multimedia-Kundenservice
Ein Hinweis: Bitte lassen Sie bei weiteren Fragen zu diesem Thema die
bisherige Korrespondenz in der E-Mail stehen - so haben Sie und wir
immer alles Wichtige zu unserem Kontakt auf einen Blick.
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Perhaps the other "T-Mobile's" will also do that ?
CU and Greetings from No.Trace !!!

No.Trace said:
Hi there ...
I got an answer from T-Mobile Germany ... an they will release a WM6 for Vario II.
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Hope, that someone will be able to share T-Mobile WM6 GER

As has already been posted, the ROM thing isn't too relevant unless you're worried about warranty.
What's really annoyed me today is that I'm due an upgrade on my VarioII and, although I'm holding out for a Kaiser, I thought I'd look at the online upgrades. I'm appalled to see that upgrading my phone, compared with taking out a new contract is more expensive. For example, a Nokia 8600 is a £290 upgrade or £170 on a new contract. WTF!!!

paulrockliffe said:
As has already been posted, the ROM thing isn't too relevant unless you're worried about warranty.
What's really annoyed me today is that I'm due an upgrade on my VarioII and, although I'm holding out for a Kaiser, I thought I'd look at the online upgrades. I'm appalled to see that upgrading my phone, compared with taking out a new contract is more expensive. For example, a Nokia 8600 is a £290 upgrade or £170 on a new contract. WTF!!!
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thats t-mobile loyalty for you, there aint non!
i have in the past transfered my number to a different network pay as you go, and take out a new t-mobile contract and transfer the number back to save £100ish

Before we continue slagging off T-mobile Uk. I will stand by them when it comes to customer service... no other service provider gives a better service, better tariffs and better phone options. I've the experince of how little orange know of cs... after complaining to them about billing they made excusses and fobbed me off.
The point to the thread is I was disappointed and feel if microsoft had not released any service packs for their OS's then businesses and many private users would merely walk away and buy into another os. We as contract holders are bound by the term of contract. I believe in the uk we are kind of lucky as we have our phone heavily subsides. where as other countries don't. But this doesn't excuse any company of applying the stack the products high and sell them cheap attitude without the assumption that both parties have made a commitment.

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Is the MDA pro sim locked?

I heard the MDA Pro is locked and only can use T-mobile sim card, is it ture?
yes, i'm too
Netlock: True
Hi,
the MDA Pro from T-Mobile is not SIMlocked but Netlocked. If you buy the MDA Pro without a card contract you will get the unlock code for free. If you bought it with a contract and got the device for less than 749€ , then you have to pay for the unlockcode (99€).
Cheers
This ONLY is valid for German devices, purchased by German residents in German shops. T-Mobile in the Netherlands stated that they will NOT offer the same service, and T-Mobile Germany stated they will NOT offer this services to foreign machines.
msmobiles
...
seems that ....
T-Mobile MDA Pro is indeed SIM locked (at least these models now on sale) but under phone number 01805330160 one can get unlock code after providing IMEI number of this phone - if the phone was purchased without subscription
..
I'm expecting an MDA Pro bought without contract and hope that this is true.
Ups...
Sorry, I didn't know that. I thought that the TM procedures regarding this are the same in every country.
Cheers
I am noy living in Genrmany, any software can unlock MDA pro?
called germany today and told my imei number.
Now i have to fax the bill and ill get my unlock code through email
hi akira and thanks for the confirmation. mine will arrive Monday evening.
can you please tll me in what language did you speak and if you can tell us the numbers you've called.
thanks.
I spoke german.
I called t-mobile germany simlock service
00491805330160
told my imei number, phone number, email adress, and name
then she told me to fax the bill to
00496188828556
then they will email the unlock code
ok faxed it todat and got my awnser today
Sehr geehrter Akira ,
wunschgemäß erhalten Sie den Entsperrcode für Ihr Mobiltelefon.
Damit können Sie Ihr Mobiltelefon für die Nutzung aller GSM-Karten in
unserem T-Mobile Netz und auch für GSM-Karten anderer Netzbetreiber frei
schalten.
Code 1: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Bitte geben Sie diesen Code gemäß der anhängenden Beschreibung ein.
Anschließend funktioniert das Mobiltelefon mit jeder beliebigen GSM-Karte.
Sollten sich Fragen oder Probleme bei der Entsperrung ergeben, rufen Sie uns
bitte unter der Rufnummer 0180 5 330160* unbedingt an. Wir helfen Ihnen
gerne weiter.
Wir wünschen Ihnen weiterhin viel Spaß mit Ihrem Mobiltelefon!
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Ihr T-Mobile ServiceCenter
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I can confirm the whole thing.
Bought the MDA Pro from Germany and I have received in 4 hours the simlock code for free.
Now to the english ROM !!!!
Copy that!
Called T-Mobile Customer Service a few minutes ago and they told me that you will get the unlocking code for free if you paid the full price without a bundled contract.
With a 24 month contract the unlocking code will cost 99,50 EUR.
And if you wait 24 month you'll get the code for free also
I have sent my invoice to them and now I wait for my code
decebal said:
I can confirm the whole thing.
Bought the MDA Pro from Germany and I have received in 4 hours the simlock code for free.
Now to the english ROM !!!!
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Hi decebal
I have MDA PRO GERMAN simlock you think that's better put english ROM after unlock or it' possible before ?
Thanke you
Luke66 said:
decebal said:
I can confirm the whole thing.
Bought the MDA Pro from Germany and I have received in 4 hours the simlock code for free.
Now to the english ROM !!!!
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Hi decebal
I have MDA PRO GERMAN simlock you think that's better put english ROM after unlock or it' possible before ?
Thanke you
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You can use any of the ROMs out here but it will not unlock your device. ASAP you'll get the code you should unlock it.
Need help to unlock the MDA Pro
I have purchased a simlocked MDA Pro from Germany but the guy i bought it from does not have the receipt. As i live in Greece T-Mobile doesnt give me the code. Is there anyone that can help me get the code from T-Mobile Germany with my IMEI No.
Thanks
Alexis

O2 XDA Orbit Coming Soon

Might be old news, but XDA Orbit has finally appeared on the O2 UK website
https://shop.o2.co.uk/ComingSoon
I'll certainly be looking to buy one!!
XDA Orbit
I spoke to O2 customer services at the end of last month and they told me that it would be available in November. I was a little skeptical and bought the P3300 from Expansys on O2 as they're not offering the Trion yet. From past experience I wouldn't count on it.
I should have waited for the o2 version, been a big fan since my EXEC. Although I was under the impression that o2's relationship with HTC ended along with i-mates. Very happy to see a HTC phone coming from o2, but I wonder will there be more to come?
Long live ASUS
I believe the HTC relationship has been closed off (with regard to new handsets).
Expect new handsets to come from ASUS (i.e. ZInc, Graphite, etc.) due in Jan.
Apparently someone in O2 Customer Service said that their spanky looking Artemis version was being released on the 27th of this month.
27th release date is correct.
Cheers
LB
Lord Buckingham said:
27th release date is correct.
Cheers
LB
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Dude, Do ya know if this device is meant for the Asia market or not?
Coz I remembered here in Singapore, we had Dopod 818Pro instead of the Neo... which means to say only 1 brand will appear here, and that is Dopod.
Can only talk for UK, Germany, and Ireland, i suspect it will not be seen in Asia.
Regards
LB
With reference to this Orbit review:
http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=42938
There are 2 things that I'm puzzled:
1) Infrared Gate: IrDA 1.2, 115200bit/s (SIR/CIR)
I thought the Artemis doesn't have Irda? Is there a mistake in the review?
2) Bluetooth: Bluetooth 1.2
Pretty much everywhere else says its got BT2.0. This review mention that it has BT1.2.
WiFi support is present for both 802.11b and 802.11g connectivity, but unfortunately Bluetooth is still the older 1.2 specification and not the hoped for 2.0 which supports A2DP, etc.
That said Bluetooth connections to the Jabra BT500 headset have been clear and voice dialing is supported and works well.
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LB, have ya tried A2DP on this device yet?
Thanks!
MasK,
Yes I have but only with the Samsung SBH 170 headset and it appears to work OK if a little limited in range.
Cheers
LB
launch date
I think this is always the same with a new hardset from O2 but i've just got off the phone with o2 select support and they reckon it's not out till after Christmas :-(
The O2 website is saying its this month.
https://shop.o2.co.uk/ComingSoon
Worth noting though that different service providers within O2 will choose to stock it at different times, so maybe Select are next year.
the O2 Orbit would most probably be released in other parts of the world except asia coz its released bt Dopod instead
LB,
I know this sounds crazy.. but does the device have glabal warranty?
Secondly, do ya think it's available in the Netherlands? It does seem better looking and more sophisticated compared to the stock Artemis, and I'm wondering what my chances are in getting that into Asia. Thanks!
MasK,
The warranty will be valid if purchased from O2, i guess you are asking whether you can get it repaired if you take it outside the UK? I am not aware of any plans to sell the device in the Netherlands, alough it will be available in Germany.
Cheers
LB
So if O2 don't release on the 27th (this month), the same way I've moved last year from Orange I can move this year to T-Mobile which have the MDA III.
Didn't quite like the phone signal on the Exec anyway...but if they do release...and they have a similar price as T-Mobile, then it isn't worth the hassle. Can't wait till after Christmas...can you?
Well.. It's not abt waiting. In fact, I'm quite confident the new HTC devices (at least the Artemis) is gonna be released by end of this month during an IT exhibition. The thing is, the Orbit looks nicer than the original Artemis. It'll be real nice to have one here for the sake of uniqueness
Well, I in fact like the original as it's a bit...square.
Grogo said:
Well, I in fact like the original as it's a bit...square.
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Hmm.. yeah.. I do like squary designs.
It just seems that the Orbit has a better colour combination (something the Atom should have int he first place, instead of making it all black!)
Anyways, design-wise.. the Artemis is definitely better than the trinity, imho. At least they got out of the magician/prophet form factor.
wertert said:
I think this is always the same with a new hardset from O2 but i've just got off the phone with o2 select support and they reckon it's not out till after Christmas :-(
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Hi everyone!
I've just had my O2 customer services representative on the phone to confirm that next week I will have the XDA Orbit delivered to my office, so it seems that this time they have done they homework...
Can't wait to play with it!

Orbit and Windows Mobile 6

Hi I am due an upgrade from O2 and I ama a .net developer by trade and would like to be able to develop for the new choice of XDA I am due to make.
I currently have and XDAIIi runing PPC2003SE and have been looking at the XDA Orbit as it has GPS and is a very nice device. My concern is that when I purchased my XDAIIi I had been waiting for the Exec but O2 kept putting it off and I changed and then 4-6 weeks later the Exec came out so I missed out on Mobile 5 and developing against .Net 2 for it.
My concern now is that with Mobile 6 being out that the Orbit is not a WM6 device and previously there has been no official way of porting my XDAIIi on to WM5. Am I going to be in the same situation with the Orbit? Have O2 mentioned an upgrade to WM6? Would it be available to new customers only, i.e. on phones offered after the upgrade released, or if I were to upgrade now would I be elligible for any potential upgrade? Tempted to wait a little longer...
Anyone have any knowledge/advice on this?
Thanks
Andrew
no official news yet - more discussion in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290039
I work for o2 and have asked but have heard nothing, I am going to go with no for free upgrades to WM6 as o2 have never done free system upgrades, I also read somewhere that HTC have indicated they will not be giving free OS upgrades to existing customers, one will have to buy new devices if we want the new OS
Hi thanks for the replies, guess I'll just sit tight a bit longer and see how things pan out.
hi amino: i have heard that O2 are offering unlimited data tariff's for £10 pcm, is this true? I have spoken to CS and they don't know.
no...at least not to my knowledge ! o2 is the worst offering for Data, atm there is a huge internal thread on the work forum on how bad it is and how we all feel that o2 needs to pull their finger out and look at what they are doing data wise as its exceptionally poor
gavinlew said:
hi amino: i have heard that O2 are offering unlimited data tariff's for £10 pcm, is this true? I have spoken to CS and they don't know.
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Don't count on any CS
If you want unlimited data (well... almost) go for T-Mobile Web'n'Walk tarrif. I know most ppl complain about lack of WiFi in the MDA C3 but having it with (1GB/mnth) internet I don't need to look for any WiFi spots. So far the best deal I have ever made on any tarrif/phone.
(I don't work for them )
Adigital said:
Don't count on any CS
If you want unlimited data (well... almost) go for T-Mobile Web'n'Walk tarrif. I know most ppl complain about lack of WiFi in the MDA C3 but having it with (1GB/mnth) internet I don't need to look for any WiFi spots. So far the best deal I have ever made on any tarrif/phone.
(I don't work for them )
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yep i totally agree with Adigital. Was one of the main reason why i went for MDA C3 rather than wait for the O2 Orbit. WiFi wasnt a big need for me. 1Gb is more than enough for me checking email, browse websites will on bus/train to uni and even go on msn. sometimes i leave it on for a good few hours, and doesnt really take up much data. i would def recommend the T-Mobile data package Web'n'Walk for anyone who wants to check email on the go almost any where at any time!

What's the difference? (HTC / O2 / T-mobile)

Ok, so I know the obvious differences in that the O2 & T-mobile require you to sign up to contract and dump a load of their own branded software on the phone, but is that all there is when it comes down to it?
I used the Vario 2 for ages but jacked it in a few months back because I got fed up with it's clunkiness. Only now I need something to take it's place. Obviously I'm posting here so I'm looking at the HTC P3300 (or a contract one). Problem is I've still got 4-months left on my curent contract so I have to buy off-contract so to speak.
So back to the original question, given the HTC P3300 is roughly £100 more to buy compared to T-mobile / O2 realeases (roughly £200 on Eay) which is the better option? Frankly, I'm tempted to stump up the extra because I thought the Vario 2 I had previously was pretty dam slow with all the T-mobile stuff on it but then I'm as well versed in the ins and outs as some of you guys are so what do ya think?
T-Mobile has no WLAN.
And at least for HTC there are two packages, one with TomTom + Maps for Western Europe, car holder & charger and one without.
I believe O2 Germany had the big package, but I'm not sure.
Valen
Valen42 said:
T-Mobile has no WLAN.
And at least for HTC there are two packages, one with TomTom + Maps for Western Europe, car holder & charger and one without.
I believe O2 Germany had the big package, but I'm not sure.
Valen
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No wifi? I hadn't realised that! Seems a bit like a no brainer then
Actually, come to think of it, I am correct in my understanding that I can just plug my T-Mobile sim into this and as long as I configure appropiately I should be able to get it to work?
if you use a non-simlocked device this is correct.
There is the question of styling, which is of course personal. However, I think the Orbit is much prettier which is why I got one. Everyone to their own, tho'
jftilbury said:
There is the question of styling, which is of course personal. However, I think the Orbit is much prettier which is why I got one. Everyone to their own, tho'
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Yes, this is true and I agree but then I think I'd feel a bit of a twit using the O2 model on a T-mobile contract
O2UK ones are unlocked.
You could buy it from eBay or get it on contract from O2, CID unlock it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308242) and then flash any ROM you wanted from the collection on this site or elsewhere.

Just another (sim)unlock thread

Hello,
i've got a problem with my t-mobile dash/mail and it isn't even here know
At first I've to say that i'm a schoolboy from germany so my english isn't perfect yet
Yesterday i bought an mda mail (the german version of the dash) for 80€ on ebay. It's brand new, so I'm quiete happy und lucky.
Thats the good thing. The bad is: It's nelocked on T-mobile. The main reason for which i bought the mda mail is that i wan't to go on the internet and use msn pocket. In Germany, t-mobile doesn't offer any good conditions but e-plus does. That's why I want to use an eplus Simcard.
Can you guys give me any clues to unlock my mda mail? I already read some topics on this board but i've already found some threads but i think most of the tipps aren't usefull for my german mda mail.
Of course i would prefer a free solution but i don't think that that is realistic. I just don't want to pay 100€ to t-mobile
So pleaseee help me
newdash said:
Hello,
i've got a problem with my t-mobile dash/mail and it isn't even here know
At first I've to say that i'm a schoolboy from germany so my english isn't perfect yet
Yesterday i bought an mda mail (the german version of the dash) for 80€ on ebay. It's brand new, so I'm quiete happy und lucky.
Thats the good thing. The bad is: It's nelocked on T-mobile. The main reason for which i bought the mda mail is that i wan't to go on the internet and use msn pocket. In Germany, t-mobile doesn't offer any good conditions but e-plus does. That's why I want to use an eplus Simcard.
Can you guys give me any clues to unlock my mda mail? I already read some topics on this board but i've already found some threads but i think most of the tipps aren't usefull for my german mda mail.
Of course i would prefer a free solution but i don't think that that is realistic. I just don't want to pay 100€ to t-mobile
So pleaseee help me
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how about i trade you my unlocked t-mobile dash
i really like the look of the full black housing of the t-mobile mda.
can you give me a link ot the phone you purchased on ebay. i cant find them anywhere.
the only threads ive seen about unlocking are around here. i belive they should be useful even if its an german mda mail but hey my offer is till up for a trade
Well, normaly i would trade my mda mail on you but you life in america and i in germany. We would have to pay taxes and so on.
But this is how you can get an total black mda:
1) visit ebay.de
2) type in mda mail
3) switch to "smartphones" at the left side
4) Check the offers and write some friendly email. Please also mention why yout want to buy the mda (because many people from other countries betray on german ebay)
Wait a few weaks.
back to topic:
So there is no free solution? Can anybody calculate the key (except for tmobile)? How much is the unlock usually?
generally its about 30-50USD...so whatever that comes out to be in Germany Im not sure, but it IS worth the money to get it done, it will cost alot of course to get it up and running, but it increases the re-sell value of the phone tremendously, so when you upgrade to a new phone in a couple o' years, you can sell it as "unlocked" and get anywhere from 20-30% more for it just because of that!
'a couple of years' good joke I use to change my phones all two months
Do i get an unlockcode or do i have to unlock my phone with a software?
most of the times you just get a code, but in VERY rare occasions they will give you a program...which if that is the case, you MUST upload it to the forum here....share the love my man!!! No but seriously, if it does come with a program, you really should hold onto it and upload it somehwere, it would make MANY phone users VERY happy!
all right... Does someone on this board sells codes? I think 50$ are a lot for a few numbers
yup, you need to PM a member called "jwocky2001" he sells unlock codes for 25USD a piece ussually
sure the name is "jwockey2001"? Can't find him with the search engine...
newdash said:
Well, normaly i would trade my mda mail on you but you life in america and i in germany. We would have to pay taxes and so on.
But this is how you can get an total black mda:
1) visit ebay.de
2) type in mda mail
3) switch to "smartphones" at the left side
4) Check the offers and write some friendly email. Please also mention why yout want to buy the mda (because many people from other countries betray on german ebay)
Wait a few weaks.
back to topic:
So there is no free solution? Can anybody calculate the key (except for tmobile)? How much is the unlock usually?
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thanks for the info on searching for the phone.
the main reason why i want that one is that it is full black. seems like a dumb reason but i like the way it looks.
maybe ill just look there for a black housing.
gah, sorry, its-jockyw2001...had it backwards heh

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