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iPhone CAB

For Those Who Wanted An iPhone ROM, Heres A CAB That Should Do Most Of What You Want.
Here It Is iPhone.cab
It Includes:-
Grumps - iPhone App
inphyy - iPhone App Configurer
A_C - Slide2UnLock
larna - iContacts
xelashiu - iPhone Dialer Skin
And A Welcomehead BMP That I Found On The Forum.
Hope It's Ok Not Fully Tested It Yet, Please Leave Feedback.
Cheers

Thx for the release?...are there any problems if I want to remove the CAB...in case I have some problems?
How is the response time of the OS after install....much slower than WM6 withouth this or...?
Regards,
Primoz

Pc78 said:
Thx for the release?...are there any problems if I want to remove the CAB...in case I have some problems?
How is the response time of the OS after install....much slower than WM6 withouth this or...?
Regards,
Primoz
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Gooooood question!
I'd like to take look, just fer ****s & giggles ye know? don't wanna screw up my current install now. I'm in far too happy a place, ROM wise

Already tried it out...but it is useless for me...respons...like 3-5 sec after tapping a button...5mb less free RAM...this is too much for me..
Regards,
Primoz

All I can say is that the Dialer will not work correctly on 8252 with CIN 3.5.2. There are some alignment issues with numbers.
Also it's impossible to enter the settings for the skin and PHONE icon not linked correctly.
Best Regards

Why is this in the WM6 forum? Does the CAB only work on WM6?

It probably doesn't belong in this topic, but why don't we try and change that?
Would there be interest in making a WM6 ROM that looks and acts almost like an iPhone? I can see there being some disadvantages and no doubt a lot of people will miss the today screen, but there might be a few people interested none the less.
Maybe it would be better to keep it as an "iPhone CAB" with everything on it, so that users can try it and remove it quite easy?
What other programs would we need in the ROM do you think?
I'm thinking it would be good to try and embed Piscel Browser, or similar at least, so that you have the fancy finger scrolling on websites.
Maybe we could add the ringtones as well....

Percz said:
It probably doesn't belong in this topic, but why don't we try and change that?
Would there be interest in making a WM6 ROM that looks and acts almost like an iPhone?
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Why not ! Could be fun to try at least, providing performance didnt render it unusable.

@Pc78
To Deal With The Response Times, Select Settings And You Should Be At The Configurator App, You Can Change The Response Times With This App.
@.VIBE
It Should Uninstall Correctly, As That Option Was Selected With WinCE CAB Manager
@dusank
Strange The Phone Link Works Fine On My Phone, Maybe Try It Again After A Soft Reset.
Cheers

Follow The Links That Are Posted In The First Post, For Information On How To Configure The Individual Apps.
Cheers

Does it include the filedialogchanger made by ??? which is posted with iConfig?
and could you write which versions of the apps in the .cab?
sorry, but im a little lazy atm so i havent downloaded it..

Problems with Dialer
This is my first post, can you put xelashiu WM6 version of the dialer in the cab file. because of the problems with key pad numbers lining up, otherwise great app Many Thanks
Oange SPVM3100
LVSW 3.30.2.1

GREAT CAB
Great cab, I was just looking forward to install a cab like these, but has only problem with the dialer, I hope can be fix. Thank you for the great work.

This CAB is very nice, but it was eaier to configure an iPhone theme using WAD with all the godies. Plus, you can put the icons wherever you want and add or delete them.
Unfortunately WAD is buggy and creates a soft reset from time to time. Other than that it's a nice app to play with!

I really like the start for this app... iContact is my favorite cause its a Stylusless UI. Now if everything else is ported it would be awesome!!! The dialer is a good start too but really needs work with simplifying it. It doesn't need to be that complicated and the look can be polished too. I'm willing to work on it with the developer if you need more of my feedback. I'm an interface designer by trade so please use me
I AM WILLING TO PAY IF SOMEONE WERE TO MAKE THE ENTIRE iPHONE OS AS A CAB OR WM6 REPLACEMENT!
Anyone else?

I'm a software developer with a fresh mind straight from Uni...so if anyone wants to team up let me know and I'd be happy to start on this project.

Slither I'm up for it!
I'll design the interfaces... You make them work!
Deal or No Deal?
Oh btw which direction would you like to go Cook our own ROM or CAB?

Deal
I like the CAB direction...btw I'm working full time so i'll dedicate time for the project mainly in the evenings and whenever I get time during work. PM me for design thoughts you have.
Cheers.

slither & and spidey
im excited to see what you guys will produce...

Sweeeeeettt!

try not to drop your jaw after seeing this

Hello, Im new to the pocket pc world used to have sidekicks and I decided to go to the next level and bought a Wing. Doing this i wanted to customize my Wing the best way I can and stumbled across this...
http://z13.invisionfree.com/XcSkins/index.php?showtopic=81
Ladies and Gentleman this is the nost wickedest theme I have ever seen and im sure the same for you. But my problem is I CANT GET IT. For some reason I cant become a member inorder to download it. So im asking anyone that sees this and is able to get this to help me out. Thanks for reading.

Wing won't work for this. It's QVGA, this skin only supports VGA at the moment. Plus you need Wisbar Advanced Desktop, a 3rd party prog.
Yeah, the skin's hot though. Thanks for pointing it out man.

NotShorty said:
Wing won't work for this. It's QVGA, this skin only supports VGA at the moment. Plus you need Wisbar Advanced Desktop, a 3rd party prog.
Yeah, the skin's hot though. Thanks for pointing it out man.
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No thank you for lettin me know altho u shot down my spirit =/ lol...but i can get wisbar advanced desktop right? nd do i have to pay?

sorry, here check this out:
http://xcskins.50webs.com/wvpe-v10-qvga.html
let me know how well it works on the Wing. I'm busy these days unfortunately.
Cheers

What are the odds of getting Dutty's latest ROM without built-in Diamond TF3D Config

I love the new ROM but still having slowness issues with Diamond TF3D Config.
What are the odds that Dutty would make his ROM and leave that off so we could add it as we wish?
Any possibility?
Thanks,
Mark

Post in his ROM release thread, might be able to make you a cab? I am interested too.

orangecrush said:
I love the new ROM but still having slowness issues with Diamond TF3D Config.
What are the odds that Dutty would make his ROM and leave that off so we could add it as we wish?
Any possibility?
Thanks,
Mark
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I havent seen any slowness using tf3d config in rom, but if majority counts to leave it out i could no in future
PS Please post in my thread if you got questions releated to my roms instead of creating a new thread

lol, it is not possible that the rom is slowlier only because my tool is installed. That makes no sense. Just installing an app which is not running in background has no effect to the speed of your device.

sushilange said:
lol, it is not possible that the rom is slowlier only because my tool is installed. That makes no sense. Just installing an app which is not running in background has no effect to the speed of your device.
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agree!
regards,
markus

2x Agree!!!
It's complete non-sense...
But besides that, this kind of issues should be raised inside the "Diamond TF3D config" thread, because if there was an issue with this application, it had to do with the aplication itself and not with the rom...
HastaSSSS

s1rl4ncel0t said:
2x Agree!!!
It's complete non-sense...
But besides that, this kind of issues should be raised inside the "Diamond TF3D config" thread, because if there was an issue with this application, it had to do with the aplication itself and not with the rom...
HastaSSSS
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But if the application is built into the ROM and therefore ends up running, then the end problem is the same.
duttythroy said:
PS Please post in my thread if you got questions releated to my roms instead of creating a new thread
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Sorry, I just didn't want to clutter up your thread with other questions....
sushilange said:
lol, it is not possible that the rom is slowlier only because my tool is installed. That makes no sense. Just installing an app which is not running in background has no effect to the speed of your device.
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I beg to differ. If you read your thread, there were a couple of others that noticed it.
And on top of that... I installed the 1.3 or 1.4 ROM and had no issues. The moment I installed the TF3D configuration, I had a pause everytime I could hit contacts in the contact app.
I tried to uninstall it and it wouldn't work so I installed the new 1.93 ROM from HTC. I had no hesitation.
I then reinstalled Dutty's 1.5 and immediately had the same hesitation.
The program is great and perhaps it's just me but everytime I install it I have a hesitation.
I'm about to install ver 1.4 so we'll see if it works again....
Mark

Opps, can't.... version 1.4 has it also.
I'll play around and see....
Thanks,
Mark

ehm...only chaning the theme makes manila a bit slow and maybe some tweaks are making some devices slow.
But NOONE has the issue, that just after installing my tool or just after running and exiting my tool the device got slowlier. It is absolutely impossible.

sushilange said:
ehm...only chaning the theme makes manila a bit slow and maybe some tweaks are making some devices slow.
But NOONE has the issue, that just after installing my tool or just after running and exiting my tool the device got slowlier. It is absolutely impossible.
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It may be impossible but check out post 556 and 559 on your thread.... there's two more people having the same problem. I'm not dissing your work at all.... I think the software is fantastic, I'm just making sure I'm not the only one having a problem and if I am, I want to fix it.
Now, on to something else you said... I DID install a theme when I originally installed it. However, I've installed it since then with no themes and still find it sluggish.
I just reinstalled a completely different ROM (Diamond Project) just to see if I would have a problem. The problem is still there and I just noticed that it has the TF3D program built into it.
I'll try some other ROMs and see if that changes it.
Thanks,
Mark

sushilange said:
ehm...only chaning the theme makes manila a bit slow and maybe some tweaks are making some devices slow.
But NOONE has the issue, that just after installing my tool or just after running and exiting my tool the device got slowlier. It is absolutely impossible.
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I found out what the problem is.... You were right. It's not the TF3D program making it slow, it's actually when you hit the second tab (what is it, people?) and then hit all people.
There is a delay before pulling up a contact list.
Tonight I've installed 4 different ROMS and until I installed the last one which actually has "contact" in place of "phone" in the phone app, I realized if you click on contact, your contacts come up IMMEDIATELY.
If you hit people and then click on "all people" to pull up contacts, it DRAGS out. Each ROM has a different speed on pulling up the contacts but nonetheless, it's the damn TF3D software from HTC, not the TF3D config program you made.
My apologies, I was wrong and you were right... I'm starting to understand why so many people don't like the memory hog TF3D interface.
Looks cool but what a slow PIA.
Thanks, just thought I'd let you know....
Mark

When I first read this thread I thought surely you are confusing TouchFLO 3D itself with the TF3D Config utilty! You do realise TouchFLO 3D is simple to disable? Just got to Start>Settings>Today>Items and uncheck TouchFLO 3D.

logger said:
When I first read this thread I thought surely you are confusing TouchFLO 3D itself with the TF3D Config utilty! You do realise TouchFLO 3D is simple to disable? Just got to Start>Settings>Today>Items and uncheck TouchFLO 3D.
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Yes sir, I did know you can disable it. It's just that I didn't notice it was sluggish until I added the config program so I assumed (yeah, I know....lol) that was the problem.
All is well now.
Thanks,
Mark

[PROJ][Ongoing..]SE Xperia X1 Panels Porting Project for Touch HD!!! - NO CAB YET!!!

I did create a post..asking if anyone had started work on this...
Got not one reply...
Seeing as i have them both.. x1 and HD..
So.. i thought.... Lets have a go....
Proof of concept only.....not a distributable version.
Sony Xperia X1 Panels.....Running on Touch HD
It's got a long way to go and lots of work needed... but it should
end up a very good addition to the Touch HD, and once done, work can commence on porting to different resolutions.
I like the look of this front end alot better than the TF3D
What do you guys reckon?
THERE IS NO CAB. ASK AT YOUR PERIL!
Anyone asking for it, will be flogged, tarred, feathered and called a leper!
Staus Updates
11/12/2008
There has been advances but very slow ones, It has been very "finiky" getting those "right changes" to commit more "stability changes"
It is because the HD was never meant to host Panels, and thus, is causing me a real pain in the backside! I'm currently looking at different roms, and versions of software, to try alternate file versions, to see if a combination is what is needed. Once this part is done, it should address a great deal of issues. Upto about 3 Hard resets a night, I think i should have a special button to do it on the back!
03/12/2008
It has been brought to my attention, there is a Cab available on another thread, but i have no input on this.
It is at the same point i was about a month ago.
It is a simple copy and paste from a X1 and is unstable.
I did not put out a version like this, as It requires your phone be reset after running panels after about 5 times, and i am aware why.
I thought It would be unfair to users to give them something that would pretty much trash the stability of the HD.
You know where it is if you do not care about this, and just want to install it.
I will not be putting out my version till i know atleast it will not trash your phone. That would subtract from the work done, and after some of us spending 500GBP+ the last thing needed is a paperweight.
01/12/2008
With the help of 'Keni'.. a new junior member... He has helped move us along also.. and produced...
The Panel icon on the titlebar.
It does need work.. and for it to function i need help again from nelshh
But he has no-doubt spent alot of time.. and got some code done.
I have to commend his effort.. and now wish to happily add him to the contributer list along with nelshh
See post 304 for pic and wmv
Thanks keni !
I am still working on te next alpha build and am struggling with the concurrence manager.
After using panels chooser anywhere from 5-10 times.. it egg timers out.. and batt out is the only recourse.
The testing on one of my HD's is now at a point.. it is a daily reset at minimum,,, but i'll carry on.
27/11/08
This has been such a painful last few days.... I have had unknown numbers of hard-resets trying to get the failing panels to operate properly.
2 developers are currently trying to help create the panel icon (see post 104) If anyone else can help aaswell...????
At the moment.. it's still doign my head in... but i am still working on this..
Those of you who have made donations.. and the kind words.. I am very grateful... and the bottle of White Zinfandel has been bought.. and shall be devoured tomorrow by her.!
I know alot of you guys are awaiting on me.. and that's why i haven't stopped.
Thanks guys... (and their mrs's for not divorcing them!)
PS.. my wife also wants a developer to create a couple of buttons on her omnia.
One button = Husband puts down phones!
Two Button = Husband does not grunt when asked question by her.. cos he is engrossed in panels!
Three button = Husband does not buy another new phone ever ever ever again!
I told her.. this is impossible... but she still asked me to find out.
23/11/08
The Alpha Cab has gone out to 5 selected testers.
This is a test version.. with many bugs.
So far.. this is the feedback
It installs.
It launches
It works
However.
Media panel & Facebook panel don't work on Alpha 0.02
Panel launcher Working. 3 testers had issues with relaunches after 5 times.It then becomes unresponsive
TF3d / Coloured Xperia / Silver Xperia / Radio Panel / SPB Panel / Google panel and Fish Panel all operate.
Animation works well on all.
I will work to address some of these.. and release a second alpha cab only to the Alpha testers.
19/11/2008
Alpha Build 0.02.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4rnX1V8cLiw
15/11/2008
Big jump made by all work done by nelshh (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=916337)
He has developed a working prototype that will call the panel manager tab.
So.. AS OF TODAY.. the 15th.. thanks to nelshh, we have something that now functions..and needs finalising and wrapping.
I will contact people to see if you can also help.
But please give nelshh a big thanks on this thread... for all his work in his project Xperiatweak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440035)... and also his work on here.
Thanks nelshh
15/11/2008
Added Tube video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s
12/11/2008
added yet another tube.. GSen and the Panels... It works...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqQFMKCRJc
10/11/2008
Added another Video.... showing all progress...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz3zptQed7Q

hi,
Am sure lot of guys here would be interested to do the testing & developement for you.Can you post here, how you started with porting panels onto HD? I searched for the panels cab and cant find anything on this xda ? Would be useful if you could give some more information,
regards
vijayvasa

works fine on HD?
Is much slower than xperia?

The panels looks good on HD as comapre to X1 because of the large screen. Do share the cabs and procedure to do that once you are done.
Thanks in advance.

Hope the panels work faster than on the X1 otherwise they are useless. On the X1 they are way to slow to work productively with them.
But the chance that they work faster on the HD are small, right? Cos the hardware of both the X1 and the HD are about the same, are they?
Also looking forward for a cab file for testing them by myself.
Ascenca

Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^

Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!

Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.

multan said:
Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.
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Thanks for the words.....
Yes.. all panels work.. but not after a reboot..
Fish are very happy in the bigger tank.. and stroking the screen has the same affect on scared little fishy
It's now a case in finding out what is causing it to flap itself on a reboot.
On a hard reset... going through my way to wedge the panels in.. works... then on reboot... i cannot start it.
Also.. after selecting the panel you want.. i'm still to find the call it makes from the X1 panel button to call up panel chooser with the tiled view.. so. when you've selected the panel.. you cannot re-choose another.
but.. this is my first day in doing this.. and i guess i'll plod along.. till i find it.. or just think screw it.

SingaporeAirlines said:
Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!
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Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others

Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.

Acelister said:
Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.
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Yes...
But i'm now exploring reg of the X1 to see if it does anything else....

cadenza said:
Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^
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Same thing here. Would like to help with it also I really dont have much experience with WM at all. But I will help where I can cos this project has to develop to a fine product

harvsingh said:
Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others
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Well to be honest, the Panels are more a marketing USP than anything else. While they are convenient, I have no issue or propensity against going into each thing separately as per normal.
But if you could get it working fully, it would be great. SonyEricsson wouldn't be too happy about it though I think !

For me, this is an extremely exieting project, because I only hoped/feared that there'll be some developers, bringing some great programs for the panels and nobody else could use them. Like spb-panel, I like it really a lot from what I've seen in videos. So, than I could have the best of both worlds, on a biiig screen^^ please, work on, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's very, very interestet in this project!!! And I want to congratulate you already for the work you've done until now!! Its amazing!!! Go on, finish it I wish you good, good luck and if you need any help I could do, I give you my word that I'll try to do my best!! Many greez, cad^^

Hi all
Video showing it running on a Touch Hd.. for the conspiracy theorists.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s

I don't get the video. Could you explain what's going on ?

I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.

Acelister said:
I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.
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No-one wants to hear me talk...
So. i just quicky launched it up.. and ran through..
All buttons work.. i was trying to juggle a TYTN II... look at the phone and tytn.. and press buttons... so .. i may not have pressed buttons properly..
But.. trust me.. they all work... and as quick/quicker than on the Sony X1.def not slower.

harvsingh said:
No-one wants to hear me talk...
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lol, nothing personal just my wife's asleep next to me, unwell.
But good news on the speed. I do hope you're able to make an easy to use cab file of it. No hurry as far as I'm concerned though. Not getting an HD yet. But definitely the first thing I'll download for it!

[Q] Is there some kickass Today screen?

Hey there
Could someone give a really good advice with link to themes for it so I can see...
I have tried so many plugins that my eyes are bloody already...
Maybe I just didn't find good combination of plugin/theme...please someone..
thank you.

Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502056&highlight=theme+concept
if you know how to use WAD2. I think it's very nice.

Kick-ass Today Screen!!!!!
Yes there is.....Try the SPB 3.0....it out shines HTC home page!!!!!
Try the 30 day trial and if your lucky, you may find a serial for it too!!!!!
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/

Sopis said:
Hey there
Could someone give a really good advice with link to themes for it so I can see...
I have tried so many plugins that my eyes are bloody already...
Maybe I just didn't find good combination of plugin/theme...please someone..
thank you.
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You may want post what you've tried already so the suggestions that come through won't be plugins that you've already written off.
I'm currently in the process of testing SPB 3.0.1. Still not sure if I like it enough to replace TF3D as it doesn't allow total integration with my other apps...Resco contacts, sms chat.

I guess you are right.
For starters, I have installed SPB 3 and WM7 black skin..it is very good..not the best but good, I like it
So far I have tried:
×Throttle launch (not good, graphics were blurry, guess it is more for VGA , but could be OK for VGA device)
×PocketPlus (too much stuff, didnt like it)
×HTC Home (I dunno why, but I guess this plugin did something bad to my phone, it acted weirdly, although it provided informaton I wanted, I did a painful Hard Reset and after that everything was OK)
×SPB 2 (I used this for very long time, but I got bored from the graphics and I liked and hated Now screen at the same time )
×PointUI2 (this was freaking awesome, very smooth graphics, but I lack WVGA skins and applets, good skins were VGA only and I couldnt switch to my today screen, which I do sometimes to check how much have I called already)
×rlToday (this one could be great, but It was very small on my screen, I could hardly see the clock )
×this is all I remember what I have tried
Now I am using:
SPB 3
HomeScreen++ (I use this only as a Call Timer, but would like to use it wider, but dunno how , does someone have an advice how to get a MAX out of this prog?)
And I have Spb Wireless monitor and Spb Backup on my todayscreen.
Thats it. So I guess I have tried a lot, but still am not absolutely satisfied.
What I really wish for is something like Omnia today screen..Ow how I would like to drag and drop widgets...I know FEWidgets can do this but I dont like how it looks...
And what I would like to have mostly is somekind of desktop with Icons and stuff...ust like a normal PC....
Thx for replies guys.

juice said:
Yes there is.....Try the SPB 3.0....it out shines HTC home page!!!!!
Try the 30 day trial and if your lucky, you may find a serial for it too!!!!!
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/
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how do you know which version is the right one?
are there any pics of the software in action somewhere?

Well it sounds like you've tried just about everything lol! You didn't mention Wisbar Advance Desktop I see. This is the closest thing I've found where you can have the look and feel of your desktop PC.
Check out Mallmans Vista Theme here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468153&highlight=Vista+Theme < Check out his site for more themes here > www.swampthing.net

Ow
You see, as I said I didn't remember
I tried WAD already, but again, some things are not to my liking.
I guess I am very demanding
thanks for your helps guys.
I guess I will stick with SPB 3 for some time.
Although Id like to make my own theme but dunno how.
I made a thread about this, hope someone will throw some letters in it
Thanks.