Phone goes online at every cold boot - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Every time I start-up my phone (from cold), it goes online.
This is a pain since it connects via 3G and drains my battery unless I remember to disconnect it.
I've looked everywhere to find the app that is causing this behaviour and I've disabled everything I can find to try to prevent it.
Is there any way of checking what is causing this? I'm running Satin and Radio 1.48.

Try using a tweaker (like HTweakC) and disabling AutoAttach. Might work - never tried it, but mine connects too. Not sure what other unintended consequences it will have, but it is reversible. I imagine it may just prompt you before connecting.
Other possibility is active sync?

Not sure.
Go into comm manager and make sure 'Push email' isn't enabled.
One of the first things my phone does after a soft reset is connect to data.
I'm always connected to data, because I use 'Push'
But I also have 3g disabled and only use it when necassary.
I used to use BandSwitch to use GSM only, But Schap has that toggle built in.
There should also be a Band selection available in Phone Options.
If not, there's a reg fix for that.
Don't know if any of what I just posted helps. :-/
Berd

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GPRS not connecting??

I have done multiple searches and have not found anything. WIFI works, but gprs will not connect, i've tried disabling proxy and everything. I am currently using schaps 3.60a and the error i get is the answering modem has disconnected to check your connection settings click setting tab. I have not seen this error before. I've flashed multiple 8525's before. I have one working perfectly fine, and this is a second one i followed the exact same steps but gprs will not work no matter what.
I'm suddenly having an identical or almost identical problem on VP3g's ROM. My Wifi connection with PIE works fine and I'm getting push e-mail delivered. But when I try to connect off WiFi as I had always done before, I get the message:
"Cannot connect with the current connection settings. To change your connection settings, tap Settings"
I've checked my settings and they seem correct and the same I always used. I've checked to see that my NoData settings were not inadvertently set wrong, but Media Net is Enabled. I've tried flushing temp files and cookies. I even tried erasing them and then reestablishing them by going online with WiFi. Finally I also tried using Opera.
Nothing works. This is maddening
The only thing strange or different is that I had set HTC Custom for temp files to be on my SD Card and when I now tried to set them on main memory (to see if somehow that might work) I get a series of error messages each time and files remain on SD.
Is it possible for the radio for gprs to be corrupt?? Or it could it be something simple as a registry edit? On the phone it is instantaneous when you try to connect to gprs it kicks back that message right away. So i know for sure gprs/edge is inop. Not sure why though.
Check with your operator
It happens to me once in a while even when the "E" shows up in the display indicating Edge abailability, but reality is that the network is down or highly congested.
chhuong I think you are right and it must be a corrupt registry entry. I know that the visible settings are correct.
It occurred to me that I have been using NODATA to turn off GPRS reception whenever I wanted to use Wifi and perhaps one of the times I set it to be disabled and then enabled it again, it must have been left as disabled even though it "says" that it has been re-enabled. Also I had a problem trying to change the cache from Main to SD, and would keep on getting errors whenever I did, using HTCustom. So probably at some point some registry corruption must have crept in. Unfortunately I've become too lazy to open the registry editor and dive in to find out where it might be.
Anyway, I finally got tired of it not working and used the problem as an excuse to move from VPG's 3.60.1 to 3.60.2. I reflashed this morning and it's been fine ever since. This time I won't use NODATA.
well actually i've tried flashing multiple roms and multiple radios, and nothing, still no gprs? So mine might be an internal fault?? Has anyone ever heard of that happening??
have you tried: start - settings - connections -connections - advanced - select networks - Media Net? Reverse it back to my network when you to use WIFI.
I've got similar problem after reflashing. Try to run Shap's Advanced configuration tool, select Connections tab and click Enable HSDPA. Don't ask me why, but it helped me to solve the problem, even there is no HSDPA available here...
I am having the same problem but i dont think its schaps rom, i think it happened either after i installed the 1.54.10 radio or after i installed the shogun cabs. If a moderator or senior could point us in the right directions, it would be much appreciated.
Rastislavko said:
I've got similar problem after reflashing. Try to run Shap's Advanced configuration tool, select Connections tab and click Enable HSDPA. Don't ask me why, but it helped me to solve the problem, even there is no HSDPA available here...
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I tired that many times, but it didnt help, thanks anyways.
FWIW, I was able to clear this up the last time it occurred by going in to Menu > Tools > Options > Memory and clearing the History, deleting files and clearing cookies, then soft reset, and everything was okay.
Try this cab http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=54309&d=1192447925, and if it doesnt work try enabling hspda, and if that doesnt work, try calling your provider and ask them to make sure that your account is enabled for data. I tried all that, then, because i dont have a data plan, but i use pay per usage, i went to ATT's site and added a data plan. Now it works, so i think its disabled on ATT's side. GOOD LUCK FELLOW HACKERS

Data Issues

Posted this @ PPC ... wanted to see if someone over here could shed some light on this for me... I have searched and the only things that I come up with are to disable the connection (manually, nodata... etc), and "there has to be something keeping it active"
It seems like many of us are having issues with the data connection not terminating after x amount of seconds. (myself included) What I am seeing with my own phone is that it will connect, download data, then go to idle (yet still active) It never seems to enter the inactive state, which is where the disconnect feature comes into play. I have searched the registry, and the only disconnect references that I can find all point to it being in the inactive state.
Does anybody know where the registry entries would be that directs the data connection to go from active/idle to inactive? I can confirm that my phone is connected by the solid white arrows next to the 3G icon, but when you bring up SPB Wireless, it shows no current activity.
Hopefully this provides enough clarification so that someone with more RegEdit experience can chime in...
Thanks
Do you by any chance have Microsoft Direct Push enabled? That will try to maintain your data connection.
(I've seen active sync go pretty wierd things. Nothing a good "End task" wont fix..)
motoq9h said:
Do you by any chance have Microsoft Direct Push enabled? That will try to maintain your data connection.
(I've seen active sync go pretty wierd things. Nothing a good "End task" wont fix..)
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Well... here's the thing.... I have disabled direct push for the internet... but I am not sure where the Microsoft direct push is. I have noticed on occasion that the direct push will be active (but greyed) momentarily when i close the data connection.... maybe that has something to do with it....
So now where is the direct push disable?
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Well... here's the thing.... I have disabled direct push for the internet... but I am not sure where the Microsoft direct push is. I have noticed on occasion that the direct push will be active (but greyed) momentarily when i close the data connection.... maybe that has something to do with it....
So now where is the direct push disable?
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Are you using Activesync? Look under schedules there.. If you say "As items arrive", it will try to maintain the connection.
Nope, direct push will try to use the data connection first - so when u turn off the data connection, it will turn off, but you can turn it back on over wireless.
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Are you using Activesync? Look under schedules there.. If you say "As items arrive", it will try to maintain the connection.
Nope, direct push will try to use the data connection first - so when u turn off the data connection, it will turn off, but you can turn it back on over wireless.
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No active sync.... iv even deleted poutlook from the startup, as I only have pop/imap accounts set up for manual download....
Like i said tho... i find it odd that it will open the connection, stay active (but idle), and never go into the inactive state....
The behaviour is by design on Windows Mobile. Imagine having to reconnect again and again and again on your PC's broadband connection after a period of inactivity.
You can also disconnect right there and then by pressing the END CALL key for 3 seconds.
What is odd, is when I first got the phone it did not do this behavior... but with that said... and the fact that there is no noticeable change in battery life, I guess it becomes sort of moot....

Data connection on demand

Okay I am really starting to regret this phone as its being a pain. I have an ATT tilt2 on Rogers and settings all work.
On my Kaiser when an app needed the Data it would turn it on and all would be good. Then after a certain amt of time of non use it would disconnect the data. Is there a setting that allows the phone to turn on the data when its needed? It seems that its either on or off.
This leads me to the second issue. About 5 times a day I get a message that the connection failed. I can then go to the settings and turn on the data connection and the internet will work again. I have never turned it off nor do I have any programs that restrict it.
Lastly, I have a bunch of factory connections that I can not use as I am not on ATT's service plus a few I created when I was first setting up the phone. I can delete some of them in connection manager how do I get rid of them permanantly?
It seems to me that there is way less user configuration in 6.5 than in 6.1 yet thanks to ATT its 3 times as large. Can anyone suggest a work around for the Data on demand issue?
InRBigness said:
Okay I am really starting to regret this phone as its being a pain. I have an ATT tilt2 on Rogers and settings all work.
On my Kaiser when an app needed the Data it would turn it on and all would be good. Then after a certain amt of time of non use it would disconnect the data. Is there a setting that allows the phone to turn on the data when its needed? It seems that its either on or off.
This leads me to the second issue. About 5 times a day I get a message that the connection failed. I can then go to the settings and turn on the data connection and the internet will work again. I have never turned it off nor do I have any programs that restrict it.
Lastly, I have a bunch of factory connections that I can not use as I am not on ATT's service plus a few I created when I was first setting up the phone. I can delete some of them in connection manager how do I get rid of them permanantly?
It seems to me that there is way less user configuration in 6.5 than in 6.1 yet thanks to ATT its 3 times as large. Can anyone suggest a work around for the Data on demand issue?
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I use HD Tweak and it works fairly well. Because the hardware is a little different, not all of the settings translate, but the things that are common between both phones works fine. You can find the link on this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452505
Under section 6 (Data), there is a "Disconnect After", which I set for 2 minutes. Once the data is idle for 2 mins, it disconnects. The next time a program needs it again, the data connects again. Don't forget to soft reset after making changes.
Hope this helps
Okay got it working
Thanks its working now. I had installed that but there must have been somthing corrupt in my ROM as I was also unable to Harddpl it. I did two hard resets in a row, was able to flash then reistalled and now it seems to work fine.
Now if someone would make an app that uses different LED's for different notices similar to the Kaiser Notification app that was awsome.

[Q] Grey signal and WiFi bars?

Hi all,
I was just wondering why sometimes my signal and WiFi bars turn grey and often can't make/send calls/data. I thought no signal or WiFi was indicated differently, especially since I can get full grey bars I doubt it's a signal problem.
I've attached a screenshot to show what I mean
cmonthegas said:
Hi all,
I was just wondering why sometimes my signal and WiFi bars turn grey and often can't make/send calls/data. I thought no signal or WiFi was indicated differently, especially since I can get full grey bars I doubt it's a signal problem.
I've attached a screenshot to show what I mean
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it means that you are not logged into google services.
and since most of the apps run with google services (stock browser as well), if you are not logged in, they will not response and keep trying.
if somehow u have other browser like dolphin, or firefox, it should still work.
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it means that you are not logged into google services.
and since most of the apps run with google services (stock browser as well), if you are not logged in, they will not response and keep trying.
if somehow u have other browser like dolphin, or firefox, it should still work.
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Thanks. Is there anyway you can force it to reconnect? It seems to be happening more and more lately
There isn't a lot you can do if the phone is stock. You can pull the battery often to see if that helps, check your' network settings and make sure that it is all set correctly. Finally master reset and re-log into your' gmail account.
Other option is to unlock the bootloader and root the device:
If you go the unlock/root route I would recommend flashing a custom radio.img file such http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374077
If you need instructions on how to go the root method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352413
In an emergency to un-root the device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366806
Hope this helps.
Justin
JTECJ said:
There isn't a lot you can do if the phone is stock. You can pull the battery often to see if that helps, check your' network settings and make sure that it is all set correctly. Finally master reset and re-log into your' gmail account.
Other option is to unlock the bootloader and root the device:
If you go the unlock/root route I would recommend flashing a custom radio.img file such http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374077
If you need instructions on how to go the root method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352413
In an emergency to un-root the device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366806
Hope this helps.
Justin
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I'm already rooted and running the XXIK6 radio. I'll try logging out and back in to see if that helps. Thanks
This happened to me the other day, was so annoying!
Although the blue bars do show whether it's connected to Google services etc, there must be more to it as I couldn't make any calls or anything like that. I went in and out of airplane mode, restarted the phone etc but nothing helped, so I just assumed it was something to do with my network and left it for a while and it sorted itself out in the end.
I have the stock phone. I forced it to see the network by going to Settings, Wireless & Networks, More, Mobile Networks, Network operators. This will force a scan to see what networks are available. Pick AT&T (assuming that who your provider), and it should turn on the Cell Service.
If it does not work, try going to an AT&T owned store and ask for a new Sim Card. (That is what I had to do.) They put it in with no questions, except for marveling at my wonderful SGN. No plan or feature changes happened.
For the Wifi, that is different. Go to Settings, Wireless & Networks, Wifi (and turn it on). You can re-scan for networks anytime. I had 11 networks in range, so it took some looking to find mine. You may need to re-enter the security settings several times to get it right. (Delete old settings by using "forget" below the network you select.) Once it works, it should keep on working with no further adjustments, at least mine does that.
When signals are seen, the grey icons will show blue as a signal strength. (I'm not sure they are accurate.)
Good luck.
All extremely overkill methods...
I used to get this sometimes on all of my Android devices. Simple way to sort it out and sign back in? Your data/wifi is still active - just open Google Talk, go to the list of contacts on it (not in a message, as in you've just signed in) and it'll connect and sync itself straight away... 10 second job, no need to pull out a battery, flash random things, or anything else.
^ this. I just was going to write the exact same thing. Just open up gtalk and you are golden.
El Daddy said:
^ this. I just was going to write the exact same thing. Just open up gtalk and you are golden.
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Here! Here!
I was pretty shocked to see the suggested methods previous to Gtalk...
If anyone else knows a better way, please share!
Best method is to sort through the code and fix the problem, unless you are all on at&t (which you're not) which would suggest a network issue. However, I have used nearly every android device available...even a few I'm not very proud of. I have never had this issue. My point is Google talk may work and be helpful, but its not a solution/fix.
Justin
It's happened to me a couple of times so clearly not just AT & T nor even just the USA. I waited it out, next time I'll try the Google talk method (not sure if it'll work, Google Voice not currently available in Aus.
Clancy_s said:
It's happened to me a couple of times so clearly not just AT & T nor even just the USA. I waited it out, next time I'll try the Google talk method (not sure if it'll work, Google Voice not currently available in Aus.
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I'm on O2 in the UK, so it isn't just a States issue as Clancy is experiencing it in Australia too.
I've narrowed it down today though. I've noticed that I only get grey bars when connected to WiFi, and sometimes even then I can't make/receive calls. Pretty much as soon as I disconnect the WiFi and get connected to the mobile network I get reconnected to Google's servers and the bars turn blue again. Weird.

Mobile Network Traffic despite WLAN connected

Hi,
when my HOX is lying near by PC Speakers, i can hear Internet Traffic over EDGE/UMTS excatly all 3 Minutes. (I hope u can understand what i mean)
I´m wondering about that bescause WIFI is active and connected, and i never had this with my DHD.
Due to optimizing Battery life, i disable mobile Network manually when i´m at home and have WIFI connected.
I use ARHD 9.1.0 with stock Kernel and EQS + APM + %Batterycircle + Autobrighness by jotha.
Baseband: 2.1204.135.20
Build; 2.17.401.2 CL89015
Any Ideas whats generating this traffic and why the HOX don´t use WIFI for that?
its normal gsm traffic. like if somebody sent you an sms, you would hear that sound. not sure why it didn't do it with dhd and now does with hox, but either way, shielded speakers are there to solve that problem. as for adapting your current speakers to shield them, not sure if its possible or not though.
lawrence750 said:
its normal gsm traffic. like if somebody sent you an sms, you would hear that sound. not sure why it didn't do it with dhd and now does with hox, but either way, shielded speakers are there to solve that problem. as for adapting your current speakers to shield them, not sure if its possible or not though.
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Thanks for your Answer, but i don´t hear that Traffic if mobile Network is disabled, so i thinkt it can´t be "normal GSM Traffic".
oh i see what you mean..
might be network location services?
settings>location>google's location service.
i know the location services use wifi as well, but it might use mobile network in conjuction even if connected to wifi.. try disable that and see if it continues.
lawrence750 said:
oh i see what you mean..
might be network location services?
settings>location>google's location service.
i know the location services use wifi as well, but it might use mobile network in conjuction even if connected to wifi.. try disable that and see if it continues.
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Thanks again, tested, but unfortunately the traffic is still there
try download osmonitor, might be other apps more specific that can help, but osmonitor should do the trick i hope.
set your screen not to turn off, just for ease..
goto the connections tab, process tab will also be useful and watch it until the noise happens. you're looking for either a process, that jumps to the top of the list when the sound happens (spike in cpu usage), and then does it every time the sound happens, or a connection, that ISN'T your local or external wifi ip address, but also has similar behaviour, ie the connection is created when the sound occurs, and is then gone a minute later.. (the connection should show an app name)
if you find an app that looks like it could be causing it, then try to uninstall it temporarily to see if it fixes the issue. if it does fix the problem, the next step would be to contact the developer of that app to request a fix for it. it could however be a system process causing the problem.
failing the above, you could try the same sort of diagnostics, but with logcat instead. i don't actually know how to initiate logcat, i'm sure a google will tell you how though.
Thanks again! (i´ll hit the Button )
Okay, got that app installed.
Unfortunately the Sound DOES NOT appear all 3 Minutes when the Display is on.
When it starts and i unlock my screen i cant see any new entries in the Connectionstab.
Processes the same, but "Android System" shortly came on Top. (maybe the Display Unlock is the Reason for that?)
BTW: Why i got 2 permanent open Connections?
1. Google Bookmark-Sync (Whois -> Google)
2. Downloadmanager (Whois -> "The New York Internet Company")
Not idea what that could be.
blahquader said:
Thanks again! (i´ll hit the Button )
Okay, got that app installed.
Unfortunately the Sound DOES NOT appear all 3 Minutes when the Display is on.
When it starts and i unlock my screen i cant see any new entries in the Connectionstab.
Processes the same, but "Android System" shortly came on Top. (maybe the Display Unlock is the Reason for that?)
BTW: Why i got 2 permanent open Connections?
1. Google Bookmark-Sync (Whois -> Google)
2. Downloadmanager (Whois -> "The New York Internet Company")
Not idea what that could be.
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you should be able to set the display to never turn off in settings>display and gestures
i don't think it'll be very easy if even possible to find it if the screens off (the spike would only be there for a second or 2, by the time it's unlocked etc it will have disappeared)
the other connections, first one is probably the google account sync, and not sure about download manager, maybe something got stuck, you could try clearing data for the download app, but to be honest i doubt that they're any problem anyway so probably nothing to worry about
edit: the download manager bit judging by the whois could be an app relating to that? do you have anything similarly named installed?
lawrence750 said:
you should be able to set the display to never turn off in settings>display and gestures
i don't think it'll be very easy if even possible to find it if the screens off (the spike would only be there for a second or 2, by the time it's unlocked etc it will have disappeared)
the other connections, first one is probably the google account sync, and not sure about download manager, maybe something got stuck, you could try clearing data for the download app, but to be honest i doubt that they're any problem anyway so probably nothing to worry about
edit: the download manager bit judging by the whois could be an app relating to that? do you have anything similarly named installed?
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This is crazy - when the screen is on, the sound isnt audible. It only happens when the screen is off.
In the Connections Tab is only one Connection without my WiFi-IP, and whois shows me its a DNS Server from my Carrier (vodafone).
In the Process Tab i can see that "System" comes up on Top for ca 2 seconds, further no action.
The 2 Connections which stays established:
Clearing the Donwloadmanager Data was a Success... Thanx again.
The Connection to Google from "Google Bookmark-Sync" is still there. Gmail Sync is deactivated in accounts.
I think i´ll give it up and live with it

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