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AT&T shipped me a new 8525 w/ WM6

Here's something interesting that just happened to me today.
Brief story:
Last week I purchased a TyTn from a user here and when I got it, it had the screen alignment issue. Rather than fiddling with it, I just sold it as such.
So, I got a fairly good deal on a new 8525 from directly from AT&T. I just got it, powered it on and saw... WM6! Let me repeat, this was a direct purchase from AT&T. The version of WM6 on it is the same build found here, 17944.0.3.1. The radio on it is 1.48.00.00.
So, although the software on it is nothing new, I thought it would be something interesting to note that AT&T is shipping WM6 with their 8525s now... I guess.

I wonder when they're going to be posting the rom on the HTC website itself.

Very Interesting, call them and ask for support just to **** with them since I know ATT wont know what to do!

Now if they would just start shipping the kaisers we would be all set and has the two most powerfull phones on the market today!!
that is pretty interesting though since I think the AT-T rom out of the box had many bugs and issues. I know I spent a few hours getting the kinks out when I cooked up my custom AT-T rom. thanks for sharing though... as I say in my SA group

jhego said:
I wonder when they're going to be posting the rom on the HTC website itself.
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I assumed they would have posted the ROM before shipping devices with them myself.

wpbear said:
Very Interesting, call them and ask for support just to **** with them since I know ATT wont know what to do!
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Hehe. Would they even know WM6 is?

so have you flashed their bloat-ware ROM off of it yet?
haha

Well TB this is interesting, no? Is one thing to purchase a used Hermes on Ebay that has jj or faria's stamp on it but this is official....
And @austinsync regarding the official ROM, the biggest complaint with me and mine is the radio... that dawg just don't hunt here in So FLA. Taking everyone back to the 1.40. The basic ROM, bypassing the ext ROM, wasn't bad... vg3g did a bad ass job on cleaning it up, major kudos. Am finding the majority of my peoples' complaints due to the 1.48 radio.
Thanks TB for that update!

Dr Puttingham said:
Well TB this is interesting, no? Is one thing to purchase a used Hermes on Ebay that has jj or faria's stamp on it but this is official....
And @austinsync regarding the official ROM, the biggest complaint with me and mine is the radio... that dawg just don't hunt here in So FLA. Taking everyone back to the 1.40. The basic ROM, bypassing the ext ROM, wasn't bad... vg3g did a bad ass job on cleaning it up, major kudos. Am finding the majority of my peoples' complaints due to the 1.48 radio.
Thanks TB for that update!
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Yeah, I was pretty surprised. And I've only made a couple calls on it so far, but I have to say it's not bad. The call quality with 1.48 seems good.
@GldRush98, I'm definitely going to "upgrade" this thing today. But, I'm pretty impressed by the speed and stability of the ROM so far. I'll probably do a ROM dump before I flash something else on it. Just in case someone wants it... for whatever reason.

I would like to see if the same exact one as the rom that's on this forum so let me know when you dump it please.

austinsnyc said:
I would like to see if the same exact one as the rom that's on this forum so let me know when you dump it please.
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I'm uploading it now. I'll *edit* when finished.
*edit* Here's the dump. Enjoy!

wpbear said:
Very Interesting, call them and ask for support just to **** with them since I know ATT wont know what to do!
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LMFAO!! I would pay to hear the phone conversation.

I just got mine last week but it had WM5.... of course it doesn't now!!!!!

I'm getting a brand-new AT&T 8525 (probably tomorrow) to replace my current Cingular 8525 with loose stylus (long story but the refurb they sent was crap so I complained nicely...)
I'll be interested to see what OS comes on it now but I am thinking of selling it new-in-box to help pay for the Kaiser...

I bought an AT&T branded 8525 on 7-23-07. It came with WM5. And, the AT&T store where i bought had just received it that morning.

s4mb4 said:
I bought an AT&T branded 8525 on 7-23-07. It came with WM5. And, the AT&T store where i bought had just received it that morning.
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I suppose mine could have been some kind of anomaly, but a welcome one. It was still shipped in the newer AT&T box that listed the OS on the front as WM5 with the "Coming in 2007, Windows Mobile 6 Upgrade" bullet at the bottom.
But I suppose all this doesn't matter a whole lot for me. I've already loaded up my own custom ROM and didn't really take advantage of this good fortune.

Does it seem ANY different from the one posted in my thread Taurus?

Madcap180 said:
Does it seem ANY different from the one posted in my thread Taurus?
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Hey Madcap. I was without a phone at the time, so I never got to checking it out. I'll flash it in just a little bit and see if I can find any differences.

Ok, Let me know.. would be interesting if there are different features maybe.

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Ok, Let me know.. would be interesting if there are different features maybe.
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Just checked it out, and it's identical to the one you posted. Same build, build date, etc. All the programs match up too. Nothing more or less in either, it appears.
Nice.

Call Me Da Cook

Hey, I am going to try to get my hands on the new 6.1 windows version and then from there I will try to cook something hopefully for the T mobile Dash (S621, excaliber). Just be patient ok.

Just out of curiousity, why are there currently no cooked roms for the dash/excal? I am just curious if it is a harder device to work with or if there just hasnt been any cooks interested.
Great to hear you will be working one one. I have a spare dash that I would be happy to rom test if you need some beta testing done at some point.

We must be patient for how much time?

gospeed.racergo said:
why are there currently no cooked roms for the dash/excal?
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It takes a lot of time and effort.........................and most important of all, IQ.

If it fixes the memory leak, it would be a huge improvement.

I helped my friend flash his 8525 with a cooked rom. I was so damn jealous of the customization of his rom. Everything was fixed, everything was setup. Just amazing.
I've flashed from T-Mo WM6 to HTC 1.27 then 1.33. It took hours and hours to get it to a good place. And I'm still always trying new stuff. Sucks...

Give me a day or two and I will have it up... I had it running on my dash for two hours and its perfect... and yes it fixes memory leaks... plus it includes threaded SMS (finally)...

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Give me a day or two and I will have it up... I had it running on my dash for two hours and its perfect... and yes it fixes memory leaks... plus it includes threaded SMS (finally)...
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NICE GOING!
glad to hear that its coming along nicely, please keep us posted on progress

jdoggraz said:
Give me a day or two and I will have it up... I had it running on my dash for two hours and its perfect... and yes it fixes memory leaks... plus it includes threaded SMS (finally)...
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so does this mean you were able to get a hold of something?
if so that is cool.

The only one I've seen is this one but it has an ugly font
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374789

indiekiduk said:
The only one I've seen is this one but it has an ugly font
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374789
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ugly font?....that's your worthless opinion, and the font can easily be changed.

I am with this ROM and I am with different (beautiful ) font

Help a new Mama (I really tried on my own)

After countless hours on this website and others, I still have not been able to find a place/way to get WM 6.0 or 6.1. I know it was limited release, but surely someone, somewhere has it? I had my baby in March and was severely ill for some time afterwards, so upgrading my At&T 8525 from WM 5.0 was pretty much the farthest thing from my mind. Hubby called AT&T, but they said it was on the website. I can't find a download anywhere.
My ultimate aim is to update the rom--first to WM 6.1 hopefully, and then play around with some of the cooked mods. I'd like the look of an iPhone. I've managed to unlock my phone using the cool SIM/CID software. Unfortunately, everything I do is thwarted by
1. Needing new .net (3.5 I guess, but I can't get it to work!)
2. Having the old 5.0
Alternatively, are there any cooked roms out there for 5.0? What should I do?
Thanks, very, very much. I've tried really hard, but I can't figure this out. (Yes, I've been to the HTC noob guide, etc.) I'm back at work now, and need my phone to be super awesome because I travel.

adbeau said:
After countless hours on this website and others, I still have not been able to find a place/way to get WM 6.0 or 6.1. I know it was limited release, but surely someone, somewhere has it? I had my baby in March and was severely ill for some time afterwards, so upgrading my At&T 8525 from WM 5.0 was pretty much the farthest thing from my mind. Hubby called AT&T, but they said it was on the website. I can't find a download anywhere.
My ultimate aim is to update the rom--first to WM 6.1 hopefully, and then play around with some of the cooked mods. I'd like the look of an iPhone. I've managed to unlock my phone using the cool SIM/CID software. Unfortunately, everything I do is thwarted by
1. Needing new .net (3.5 I guess, but I can't get it to work!)
2. Having the old 5.0
Alternatively, are there any cooked roms out there for 5.0? What should I do?
Thanks, very, very much. I've tried really hard, but I can't figure this out. (Yes, I've been to the HTC noob guide, etc.) I'm back at work now, and need my phone to be super awesome because I travel.
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These are a list of WM6
The docs orders can be found here
Here is your dot net framework.
and follow MRVANX guide on my signature.

God bless you, zocster! I'm downloading right now and hopefully will have a shiny almost-new phone. I was really considering an iPhone, but the 8525 is already paid for and does a good job syncing with Outlook at work.

adbeau said:
God bless you, zocster! I'm downloading right now and hopefully will have a shiny almost-new phone. I was really considering an iPhone, but the 8525 is already paid for and does a good job syncing with Outlook at work.
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What's an iphone?

zocster said:
What's an iphone?
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Something without a qwerty

LOLZ! I really think my "old" 8525 is better! I can't wait to make it even cooler!

zocster said:
What's an iphone?
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an iPhone is a phone with an "i"
what is a phone?

Im confused.

Madcap180 said:
Im confused.
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good to C U slumming in the hermes forum

galaxys said:
good to C U slumming in the hermes forum
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Slumming? This is a nice place

galaxys said:
good to C U slumming in the hermes forum
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aha.. I just recently dove back into HTC phones. I went outside the box for a little bit and took a stab at the Pantech Duo.. what a worthless piece of crap that thing is. Traded it and 100 bucks for a brand new in the box Tilt.. first 10 minutes of having the tilt I was hooked on HTC all over again. gosh I missed this place.

Madcap180 said:
aha.. I just recently dove back into HTC phones. I went outside the box for a little bit and took a stab at the Pantech Duo.. what a worthless piece of crap that thing is. Traded it and 100 bucks for a brand new in the box Tilt.. first 10 minutes of having the tilt I was hooked on HTC all over again. gosh I missed this place.
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OT, is my friend's garmin's ROM treating your tilt well? ah, just seen you haven't put anything on your signature re what ROM you been molesting your tilt with

Im actually waiting on my friend to get me the dump of the X1 ROM he somehow got his hands on and see what I can't mooch off if it and release to the masses.. Right now I'm just back to the OEM AT&T Rom.. making my keyboard all slow... More trying to learn Wisbar all over again.. lol.. alot has changed in the 7 or 8 months I have been away!!

Sigh. I put the .net in my folder to sync. This after trying to sync all four and told no room.
Now I have the rainbow screen of death?

Easy to fix Adbeau .. just reflash to OEM rom... then start over.

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Im actually waiting on my friend to get me the dump of the X1 ROM he somehow got his hands on and see what I can't mooch off if it and release to the masses.. Right now I'm just back to the OEM AT&T Rom.. making my keyboard all slow... More trying to learn Wisbar all over again.. lol.. alot has changed in the 7 or 8 months I have been away!!
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Awesome!! i am getting a kaiser next if my jasjam ever dies!

You might need to give the JasJam help in dying.. I.E. throw it out the window. It would give you an excuse to get the Kaiser... awesome phone, really.. it is.

Madcap180 said:
Easy to fix Adbeau .. just reflash to OEM rom... then start over.
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Sorry to be a complete loser, but I don't know how to do that. I don't know if I've ever flashed, except accidentally.
Right now I've got phone plugged into computer and rainbow screen...

go to www.htcamerica.net .. go to support by carrier.. put in AT&T then select the 8525 ... download and run the ROM UPDATE

adbeau said:
Sigh. I put the .net in my folder to sync. This after trying to sync all four and told no room.
Now I have the rainbow screen of death?
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Don't forget you need 4.5!

tilt2 on the way

my tilt2 is on the way,i just ordered it from at&t after alot of hassle and crap,it's finally on the way,time to put my original tilt to sleep.

Welcome to the tilt2. Here is one of my favorite threads! It includes some of the most usefull and widely used apps out for the tp2. The community here is full of answers and great help, feel free to ask any questions you may have about your new phone! There is a lot to learn, so keep reading and enjoying your new device!!!

thx for the link,im sure ill be asking plenty of questions. i really want to know how to get rid of all the at&t bloatware

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thx for the link,im sure ill be asking plenty of questions. i really want to know how to get rid of all the at&t bloatware
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If I were you I would just HardSPL unlock your Tilt 2 and flash a ROM from any one of the great cooks on the forums! I found the stock ROM hideously unusable.

BASSMANBOB said:
If I were you I would just HardSPL unlock your Tilt 2 and flash a ROM from any one of the great cooks on the forums! I found the stock ROM hideously unusable.
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Misconceptions. My smoothest/most stable ROM was the stock VZW 6.1 Sense 2.0 ROM. Although it required a TON of work to get that way, it was still one of my favorite ROMs to date (I would idle at 48% after WEEKS of usage).
I would suggest downloading something like TMS uninstaller or purchasing a toolkit like SK Tools or Mem Maid to get rid of the AT&T bloatware. Custom ROMs are nice as well, but I would suggest getting used to the phone before going that route.

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Misconceptions. My smoothest/most stable ROM was the stock VZW 6.1 Sense 2.0 ROM. Although it required a TON of work to get that way, it was still one of my favorite ROMs to date (I would idle at 48% after WEEKS of usage).
I would suggest downloading something like TMS uninstaller or purchasing a toolkit like SK Tools or Mem Maid to get rid of the AT&T bloatware. Custom ROMs are nice as well, but I would suggest getting used to the phone before going that route.
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Well, keep in mind that Verizon put a good looking theme on their version of the TP2....Have you seen the Tilt 2 Sense 2.1 theme?! Its COMPLETELY ATT blue....totally ruins the look of the device in my opinion...but weeks at that low of a usage?! That's very impressive!

TopDogg1 said:
thx for the link,im sure ill be asking plenty of questions. i really want to know how to get rid of all the at&t bloatware
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LOL I was just gonna suggest...
The first file below is a clever little app developed here at xda, that does exactly that. Instructions are in the .zip.
The second file below contains two cabs that all new TP2/Tilt2 owners should run. They improve the phone's memory management, which leaves a little to be desired in its stock configuration.
Oh, and welcome to our little corner of xda! Follow burton's link above for the best place to get all the info you need to start, and then let us know if you need any more help. Feel free to PM me if you get stuck in a corner anywhere

TopDogg1 said:
my tilt2 is on the way,i just ordered it from at&t after alot of hassle and crap,it's finally on the way,time to put my original tilt to sleep.
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Very good decision!!
Rhodium is a great device
Have a read on the Wiki and ROM section, you´ll find all you need!

thx for all the responses and the info,ill let everyone know when i recieve it. i actually got it for free because it is a refurb. they tried to tell me the refurb is for new customers only,so i gave them a piece of my mind and they let me upgrade and get it for free.

just got some bad news! i just recieved an email and it said my tilt2 was on backorder,my blood pressure just went through the roof. i called at&t and they took $20 off of my bill this month,but im still mad as ever. they dont even know when it will be in stock

srry 2 hear that..hopefully u'll get it sooner thn later. id call em again even sounding more pissed off. its their mistake not urs. i bet u can get them to jjst send u a brand new one then. it wont hurt to try ..juss be like u need ur phone for wrk purposes and cant afford to wait..juss some thghts..this dilemma might wrk out to ur advantage if u try to get them to just send u a new one since the refurb not in stock. at no charge..but if they do charge u, itll be added to ur phone bill. not like u gotta pay upfront. see about getting a free one though first..if they dont budge, negotiate something on da brand new one then. im sure they can wrk out somethin for u if u were able to get them to upgrade u for free anyways. juss some thghts...good Luck

for some stupid reason at&t said my tilt 2 was on back order but when i got home from work,there it was,sitting by my front door. i love it so far even though i need to do alot of tweaking. the hotmail is starting to tick me off,it keeps saying new account on my phone even though i went through the steps to set it up

How long do we think it will take to root?

With full access to the ROMs and EVOs now, it doesn't seem like it will take long to me. Do any informed experts have any ideas?

TheBiles said:
With full access to the ROMs and EVOs now, it doesn't seem like it will take long to me. Do any informed experts have any ideas?
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took me 7-8 hours to root the samsung moment once we got a copy of the leaked android 2.1....this phone is setup completely different and i dont physically have it to test anything.
im doing some research and hope to figure out a solution, but it'll be hard for me to test it for sure.
if anybody else has some insight with previous HTC and android experience, that'd be great to hear some other opinions?!
or maybe an HTC phone with similar file system structure which was rooted?

joey do u plan on getting this phone? i had a moment but was lucky enough to get the evo off someone that went to i/o.....it would be awesome to have your kernels working on this bad boy!!!

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joey do u plan on getting this phone? i had a moment but was lucky enough to get the evo off someone that went to i/o.....it would be awesome to have your kernels working on this bad boy!!!
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yea, im heavily considering it. i qualify for my upgrade so for $199 and giving up a hardware keyboard for all the great hardware features this has, i think its worth it!
i hope to be able to compile a few kernels for you and everybody else

joeykrim said:
yea, im heavily considering it. i qualify for my upgrade so for $199 and giving up a hardware keyboard for all the great hardware features this has, i think its worth it!
i hope to be able to compile a few kernels for you and everybody else
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ah dont even worry about the onscreen keyboard it takes a second to get used to it. that was the reason why i picked the moment over the hero but i still found myself using swype lol. as of now im just using the htc keyboard and its pretty slick so far just have to train the dictionary.

i work for sprint, my indirect rep came in with his evo the other day and so i installed swype 1.25 on it. FREAKIN. AWESOME. also, MAD props to joeykrim. i have the moment and he has done SO many wonderful things with it. but it looks like im going to htc...
EDIT: joey, i would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see you move to the evo and see what that genius brain can cook up. if you ever need a tester, im all over it. been with you on sdx since the days you and speedrabbit were bustin down and fixing 1.5.

IM getting the EVO day of release and maybe another for testing. Let me know when you want to get this thing a try. i just hope it doesn't brick XD

knowing joeykrim, once he gets his grubby hands on an Evo - it'll be rooted there soon after.
glad to see some familiar names over here guys...

Looks like the question has just about been answered :>
grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
Old school Palm devs working on it... even without details released, I'd stake my farm on it being 100% legit.
Important note - I have no farm .

HTC Evo 4G rooted in record time
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/htc-evo-4g-rooted-in-record-time-video/

Yeah but in case you guys haven't heard the shipped 2.1 rom you guys get may not be final. Sprint could easily push an update to close off root. Just look in the hero section, the final 2.1 RUU is still not able to be rooted by our best devs. Im not trying to worry anybody but it is a possibility.