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Hi All.
I got a server with unlimited bandwidth and Storage so i thought i could start hosting all custom ROMs.
Just wanted to know what you all would think about it?
All ROMs at one location without the need for Rapidshare and such.
Upload account for developers and such.
UPDATE!
ROMn****.info will be the address
Working on design and functionality now, help is welcome
Developers send me a pm for ftp account
UPDATE Again!
Its up and running, beta design comeing up soon and developers starting to get accounts.
If you are a developer and interested, send me a pm
No one liked the idea? :O
l1nuxfre4k said:
Hi All.
I got a server with unlimited bandwidth and Storage so i thought i could start hosting all custom ROMs.
Just wanted to know what you all would think about it?
All ROMs at one location without the need for Rapidshare and such.
Upload account for developers and such.
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I'll be first then... I think it's a good idea!
Lots of people have trouble accessing Rapidshare (which some people seem to forget, or don't care about).
Well done you for offering to help people out!
Nice enough to offer but I don't think it's a good idea. Certain dev's normally host on RapidShare and/or another mirror that you don't have to wait to download.
You might get better responses if you post this in the dev forum. Or post a link in there pointing to this post.
Nice idea, try sending PM's to few most-known developers
Could you host me some roms for me for OpenRUU? See the link in my sig.
42turkeys said:
Could you host me some roms for me for OpenRUU? See the link in my sig.
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sure no problem
I'l arrange something for you.
MSN
[email protected]
I would also love if someone thats good with design would help out a little.
i want to make it look good also ^^
also, domain names tips?
what to call the site?
l1nuxfre4k said:
also, domain names tips?
what to call the site?
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romdroid
droidroms
youporn<- favorite. not taken
youporn might attract to many people looking for porn?
more suggestions?
name dont have to do with roms just a good name.
Would maybe be better if not had anything to do with ROMs in the name
i can offer you free hosting & unlimited bandwidth
sashajovicic said:
i can offer you free hosting & unlimited bandwidth
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are you blind?
I already have that ...
and i have unlimited Storage....
Bump/Update!
Not to put a damper on your parade but...
I don't think you'll be able to pull off a ROM hosting site on shared hosting. It's impossible.
Take me for example, I started a ROM hosting and indexing service about two weeks ago and it lasted three days before my costs skyrocketed and I was forced to close it down.
It took three weeks of development and four servers all with 2Gb combined uplink speed and in the end I paid out over €100 in three days because of the sheer popularity of the site.
Compare that with a shared hosting package on dreamhost and you'll see that bandwidth costs are prohibitively high to be usable. Dreamhost may advertise unlimited space and bandwidth but that is an utter lie. Ever hear of a fair usage policy?
abc27 said:
Not to put a damper on your parade but...
I don't think you'll be able to pull off a ROM hosting site on shared hosting. It's impossible.
Take me for example, I started a ROM hosting and indexing service about two weeks ago and it lasted three days before my costs skyrocketed and I was forced to close it down.
It took three weeks of development and four servers all with 2Gb combined uplink speed and in the end I paid out over €100 in three days because of the sheer popularity of the site.
Compare that with a shared hosting package on dreamhost and you'll see that bandwidth costs are prohibitively high to be usable. Dreamhost may advertise unlimited space and bandwidth but that is an utter lie. Ever hear of a fair usage policy?
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ofc i heard of it, same thing with mobile broadband...
Already double checked with my hosting.
AND its not shared hosting..
who sad it was?
A VPS, A Dedicated server... In the end it's on what it's hosted on that matters the most.
Unless your paying for an unmetered port your going to be charged quite a bit for the bandwidth no matter what they say about "unlimited bandwidth". Just a heads up.
l1nuxfre4k said:
ofc i heard of it, same thing with mobile broadband...
Already double checked with my hosting.
AND its not shared hosting..
who sad it was?
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The simple fact you said unlimited bandwidth and storage means you don't have a dedicated server. If you think you have a dedicated server with unlimited hard drives, then this conversation ends here.
Therefore, by conclusion, abc27 is correct as you are sharing resources with someone else and will bottleneck the system (shared/reseller/VPS/VDS/cloud) or face severe throttling yourself.
Edit: DreamHost? Good luck! I genuinely hope it works out for you, but please please take offsite backups as soon as it goes live. If we're right, it won't be around for long.
No need to worry about that
I will always keep a backup and i got a Dedicated server comeing up within the next month.
and the current server will stay up.
already double/tripple checked with support
Working on a good deal for one with lots of storage and bandwidth
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Hello All,
I am a regular visitor of the XDA and found it the most resourceful website on the planet. It gives me a sense that I have come to my people place.
After browsing on to various posts and topics I felt that I should also do something for this community and decided to create file sharing website where most powerful brains (XDA members) can put there hard work and share with the world without any difficulty as I have seen many of you people uses (4shared.com, rapidshare, megaupload, etc) but they all not so easy place to download the files. I want to give you people a beautiful place to upload and download files.
I firmly believe that we can grow high with each others support and can always take a further step even in those directions for which people says "Its Blocked".
I want that this place (XDA should be called as one stop mobile solution place) because where peoples thought ends we start working from that place.
But I want to know that do you people really require this service, because only after that I will be able to work upon it.
Please give my your feedback.
vikas_vtcm said:
Hello All,
I am a regular visitor of the XDA and found it the most resourceful website on the planet. It gives me a sense that I have come to my people place.
After browsing on to various posts and topics I felt that I should also do something for this community and decided to create file sharing website where most powerful brains (XDA members) can put there hard work and share with the world without any difficulty as I have seen many of you people uses (4shared.com, rapidshare, megaupload, etc) but they all not so easy place to download the files. I want to give you people a beautiful place to upload and download files.
I firmly believe that we can grow high with each others support and can always take a further step even in those directions for which people says "Its Blocked".
I want that this place (XDA should be called as one stop mobile solution place) because where peoples thought ends we start working from that place.
But I want to know that do you people really require this service, because only after that I will be able to work upon it.
Please give my your feedback.
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Many people have tried this before, but the bandwidth needed usually puts paid to them, as cost of running is HUGE. One month, I used 3TB bandwidth just for one ROM. If our team has 5 ROMs just now, that could be a lot of bandwidth (not necessarily 15 TB, but lots)... Multiply that by number of devs, you could have issues with finding a data center...
And storage space. Each ROM for android is 100 to 200 MB, multiplied by all the devs, that would be a hell of a lot of storage space... And where would you back it up to?
It would be a mammoth task... Just saying
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Many people have tried this before, but the bandwidth needed usually puts paid to them, as cost of running is HUGE. One month, I used 3TB bandwidth just for one ROM. If our team has 5 ROMs just now, that could be a lot of bandwidth (not necessarily 15 TB, but lots)... Multiply that by number of devs, you could have issues with finding a data center...
And storage space. Each ROM for android is 100 to 200 MB, multiplied by all the devs, that would be a hell of a lot of storage space... And where would you back it up to?
It would be a mammoth task... Just saying
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Thanks for your quick response,
Bandwidth and the data space will not be a problem with me ...
As i can arrange an Unlimited data space and bandwidth for this service. With a real high speed connectivity...
But I need your support .... Are you with my me???
Hello all,
I need feedback please...
Is this services really required???
As Pulser said, bandwidth can be a huge issue. However the even larger issue would be with the software companies taking issue with a central repository like what you propose.
Generally, rapidshare and the others offer a certain degree of anonymity, which came in handy whenever Microsoft got a bug up its butt.
Sent from my rooted Droid X, powered by Froyo and Big Red.
As NATF said, the issue of hosting the files would put you in shaky legal waters (regardless of where you live or hold the server, since something like this could reach international scales pretty quickly)...
Even with unlimited bandwidth and unlimited space, I can assure you there will be a limit, where the datacenter would not allow a dedicated server to operate at (I presume you are talking dedicated server, as anything less than full dedicated would have you kicked off the package faster than you could say XDA
But as for bandwidth, I have saturated out 5x100Mbps mirrors with one ROM release, so I honestly think you would be facing an immense task.
Coupled with the fact that even the tiniest slip up would result in almost all the ROMs available being offline while maintenance occurred (making your service lose credibility), if there was data loss, it could be catastrophic if nobody had backups. (Data loss could be due to police raid and seizure warrant, or hack attempts)
Personally, I will always release ROMs from either servers I own, or using space kindly donated by users of our ROMs who have servers operating below capacity.
Mediafire/multiupload etc are also so popular that it would be hard to persuade people to move across. And being able to upload there keeps people further from Microsoft etc, rather than directly uploading...
Imagine if you got subpoenaed for ftpd logs (the logs of all uploads to the server), or worse, the apache access ogs (the details of everyone who downloaded from it)
Whilst it's a very kind and generous offer, I think the logistics and legal issues would prevent it being feasible. A central repository is a good link in the chain to burst, hence why the scattergun approach is much more effective
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As NATF said, the issue of hosting the files would put you in shaky legal waters (regardless of where you live or hold the server, since something like this could reach international scales pretty quickly)...
Even with unlimited bandwidth and unlimited space, I can assure you there will be a limit, where the datacenter would not allow a dedicated server to operate at (I presume you are talking dedicated server, as anything less than full dedicated would have you kicked off the package faster than you could say XDA
But as for bandwidth, I have saturated out 5x100Mbps mirrors with one ROM release, so I honestly think you would be facing an immense task.
Coupled with the fact that even the tiniest slip up would result in almost all the ROMs available being offline while maintenance occurred (making your service lose credibility), if there was data loss, it could be catastrophic if nobody had backups. (Data loss could be due to police raid and seizure warrant, or hack attempts)
Personally, I will always release ROMs from either servers I own, or using space kindly donated by users of our ROMs who have servers operating below capacity.
Mediafire/multiupload etc are also so popular that it would be hard to persuade people to move across. And being able to upload there keeps people further from Microsoft etc, rather than directly uploading...
Imagine if you got subpoenaed for ftpd logs (the logs of all uploads to the server), or worse, the apache access ogs (the details of everyone who downloaded from it)
Whilst it's a very kind and generous offer, I think the logistics and legal issues would prevent it being feasible. A central repository is a good link in the chain to burst, hence why the scattergun approach is much more effective
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Thanks for your credible feedback..
Is there some solution to overcome all theses legal and other kind of issues... and on my side I will look in the matter and get back to you guys...
I really appreciate that you guys took pain in putting some light in this matter.
Guys,
Did you see this.
http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-monitoring-censoring-skydrive-uploads/
Apparently Microsoft is possibly monitoring and checking what users upload on Skydrive. Even this is a total attempt to private life and confidentiality.
Mainly, what about business documents, confidential documents uploaded to Skydrive?
So is every other file sharing and uploading site.
If their terms and conditions say no porn then dont upload porn. It's simple. I'm sure theres not a team digging through each of our skydrives or else there would be an invasion of privacy issue. There's probably some form of recognition software to detect porn.
Well, do you really think MS is looking at EACH file uploaded to SkyDrive? I've got no numbers but I think you can imagin how many files per hour even per second have to be uploaded. What kind of oversized team should watch every lousy file up there?
Maybe there is a kind of algorithm that tries to detect things as nudity and these files get reported to a human team.
I am not concerned, that someone is reading all my 100+ pages Word docs.
Also some time ago I've had some files of .... questionable legitimacy on SkyDrive (even in a public folder!) and nothing has happend ....
But it's nice for MS haters to make a fuss about ....
I'm going to quote my response to that article since I can hear the Droid fanboys approaching...
Actually, doesn't the auto upload pop up the second you take your first photo? I believe it does, which means it is NOT on by default, and the big pop up makes it an OBVIOUS setting which a user can change. Stop trying to cast a shadow over the system, things like this exist everywhere, from Facebook, to school networks... You can't upload illegal content anywhere, period. This is in place for situations like child porn, or pictures of you slicing somebody's neck (I know, dramatic). I don't mind it, as I'm pretty confident that some random employee isn't scavanging through my documents trying to find out the secret access code to my company's server.
This is all automated, move on with your lives.
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Also, this thread title makes great assumptions and should honestly be changed
This is ****.
My OWN account is my private thing.
If I want to put there any photo I make, it's my problem.
I don't upload any photo there.
the_Crispy said:
Well, do you really think MS is looking at EACH file uploaded to SkyDrive? I've got no numbers but I think you can imagin how many files per hour even per second have to be uploaded. What kind of oversized team should watch every lousy file up there?
Maybe there is a kind of algorithm that tries to detect things as nudity and these files get reported to a human team.
I am not concerned, that someone is reading all my 100+ pages Word docs.
Also some time ago I've had some files of .... questionable legitimacy on SkyDrive (even in a public folder!) and nothing has happend ....
But it's nice for MS haters to make a fuss about ....
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Such comments are annoying.
If MS reacted for 4 PHOTOS the guy uploaded, it means they monitor almost everything. Without right to do so.
I didn't actually read the site until now. That's complete BS, I mean really Microsoft. But rules are rules, he should have read the terms and conditions.
damn that sucks that you can't snap photos of yourself, your lady, or your friend. You know those special pictures, that a lot of people take.
i snap nude pics of myself all the time and i have my pictures uploaded to skydrive automatically. However they're private. I havent gotten any problems so far...
interesting...
And now you idiots know, nothing is free!!
And it's a good thing too, keep your smut on dropbox if you simply must have smut online!!
But seriously:
1. It's probably an algorithm that doesn't work very well as I tested it
2. It's their service and you can choose not to use it if you're all really that outraged. Just uncheck the 'automatically upload to skyrive' box
3. To those who think a human actually went through the guys skydrive...for real?
They didn't even delete the photos, they sent him a warning.
I know we're all stuck indoors due to snow today but this isn't what we should be getting upset over. The speakerphone on my HD7 on the otherhand...
^ Its the same on dropbox.
How can any of you actually be against this? First, doministry, you're more han welcome to take whichever pictures you would like, nobody is controlling what you snap on your own phone. The problem here lies in uploading it to a server which has rules against such things. Don't upload the pictures, it's that simple, and if you have the uploading set to "auto," go into your pictures hub and delete it, it's that simple. To be upset at the fact that pictures got removed for violated service terms is ridiculous. I guess I should be pissed at a police officer every time I murder a person in my own home, because hey, it's my home, I should be allowed to do as I wish, right?
And I highly, highly doubt this is an individual, this is automated.
The probably has his content set to public and shared the images. Then all it takes is one complaint.
^ Its because its MS. Lets face it, people of our tech competence tend not to like MS, mostly because they compete with all the major companies out there, Sony, Apple, Google, etc. People will scratch at the bottom of the barrel just to find something negative to say about them.
I experienced this issue.
I got my WP7 a few days after launch, and was lucky enough for the wife to "assist" me in testing the quality of the camera while she was having a shower (nothing crazy, just a few topless shots with her consent).
First problem, was that those pics were automatically uploaded to my MSN profile, which I found out by a friend letting me know. So I quickly fixed that setting (which, for what it's worth, I am pretty sure shares on default, as I do not remember putting a setting like that on).
But over 2 weeks after taking the pictures and having them on my skydrive, I all of a sudden was locked out of my skydrive, with a generic "you have violated the blah blah blah", and it took another 2 days for the email to come so I could fix the issue (delete the topless pic that flagged).
Personally I think it's lame, as I would prefer to be able to upload those pics to my skydrive rather than have them stored on my phone. But it's not enough for me to freak out and swear off MS products for life.
the92playboy said:
I experienced this issue.
I got my WP7 a few days after launch, and was lucky enough for the wife to "assist" me in testing the quality of the camera while she was having a shower (nothing crazy, just a few topless shots with her consent).
First problem, was that those pics were automatically uploaded to my MSN profile, which I found out by a friend letting me know. So I quickly fixed that setting (which, for what it's worth, I am pretty sure shares on default, as I do not remember putting a setting like that on).
But over 2 weeks after taking the pictures and having them on my skydrive, I all of a sudden was locked out of my skydrive, with a generic "you have violated the blah blah blah", and it took another 2 days for the email to come so I could fix the issue (delete the topless pic that flagged).
Personally I think it's lame, as I would prefer to be able to upload those pics to my skydrive rather than have them stored on my phone. But it's not enough for me to freak out and swear off MS products for life.
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I think you are right. By default the phone shares all your picture. Not normal.
Regarding the rest of your story, I know now that I will not trust Skydrive anymore.
More over, sorry, but I do not consider some simple 'topless' pictures as porn. Porn is not this, and I hate this kind of excessive prudishness and censorship.
Microsoft hates tits?
test it -
take a pic of a statue and see if it gets attention.
arturobandini said:
I think you are right. By default the phone shares all your picture. Not normal.
Regarding the rest of your story, I know now that I will not trust Skydrive anymore.
More over, sorry, but I do not consider some simple 'topless' pictures as porn. Porn is not this, and I hate this kind of excessive prudishness and censorship.
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Wrong, the phone pops up the option when you take your first photo, it is the user who ultimately decides what happens. It gives you the option for Facebook, Skydrive, or nothing... it's a pretty big box which can't be ignored to be honest. Like I've said, if you agree to use a service, then know the rules. It's like people who tether for free on their wireless carrier, and then get upset when the user agreement says no tethering, so they get charged fees on their account.
^ that's such a bad argument. What if you purchased the phone from the store after a full demonstration and set up? Chances are you'll forget all about that bubble because you've never seen it or remember it.
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^ that's such a bad argument. What if you purchased the phone from the store after a full demonstration and set up? Chances are you'll forget all about that bubble because you've never seen it or remember it.
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Then you should actually be mad at the store, or yourself. You can't blame Microsoft for this... It's the same on Photobucket, Dropbox, Facebook... doesn't even matter if they're "private."
I posted something quite similar to this in the thread for Nexus Beam, but I wanted to post it here too. I think it would be awesome if the xda community began to promote generation of torrent files of ROMs instead of the de-facto standard now of upload sites. It is simple to create the torrents, especially for people who are ROM developers, and it allows us to access the files easily, indefinitely, and without additional cost. I would really love it if this mechanism became widely used.
You can use the tracker at http://openbittorrent.com . It doesn't list the files anywhere and doesn't provide links so the torrent is still only available to those with whom you share it (and within the swarm via DHT).
I just spent 1.5 hours downloading a ROM and I'm in a time-sensitive situation here so I find that really sad when it could have been done in seconds if someone had created a torrent instead of relying on 6-8 crappy upload sites that cap speeds, make users wait or look at ads, etc.
I would love to hear thoughts and opinions on this.
Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21691582&postcount=1888 for an example.
No. Far too many ISPs worldwide throttle bittorrent (mine makes it just about impossible to send or receive any data with the bittorrent protocol)
I totally support the idea, totally! I hate the download queue and then typing captcha words - it's annoying and I hate it!
Please, at least try making torrent files!
Pickx said:
No. Far too many ISPs worldwide throttle bittorrent (mine makes it just about impossible to send or receive any data with the bittorrent protocol)
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BitTorrent has several mechanisms to circumvent ISP throttling, including protocol "encryption" (which is actually obfuscation, not encryption) and µTP, and most ISPs have stopped throttling it by now.
The files we're trading are relatively small so even if the connection is throttled it's still likely going to come down faster than it would on depositfiles et al -- much BitTorrent ISP throttling is upstream only, also, which makes it even less relevant.
On top of all of this, nothing stops you from ALSO uploading to multiupload or whatever file sharing site you want. If someone is in your situation, they can still download from depositfiles or ******* or whatever and are not any worse off.
I just would be happy to see torrents become a staple here. They work much better for most of us.
No very bad idea!
Lot of Dev's have a account at dev hosting site which is fast/free. Knowing torrents you know that yes they can be fast but all depends on seeds & leechers. So no seeds or leechers exceed, your worse off. In this scenario, how they are doing it is great. Always there always fast. Just no resume, but that's it. For those who complain about captchas and queue times, sign up don't have any of that. I have one cause for how much money you save is worth it by far. It's $10/month. Also lot of people just download from there phones (like me) so you would even have to get extra app on your phone, & good ones still even cost.
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torrents only work as long as they are seeded. many files we use on xda must be moved, edited, or worked with, and you cant work on a file that is being seeded, so many users download then stop it so they can move and work with the files, and no longer seed, so if the host shuts off his computer, there will be little to no seeders, also if the host is the only one seeding, and is a high demand large file, it will be maxed out for the first hour or more till others get 100% and collects a few other seeders.
if there is little to no seeding, or a slow connection on the host side, the forums would FILL with complaints.
It would cause more issues than solve.
USE www.multiupload.com to host your files on multiple sites at one time. then they wont disappear when one site goes down.
personally - my utorrent only will have 2 download/uploads MAX ever at any time including seeding.
thats how i can download at 2.7 MB/s (full bandwidth) when other people are complaining of slow seeding on a torrent. I want to watch a 1.5 gig movie? I have it in 15 minutes. because i dont have 50 million things seeding and downloading at a time.
TRusselo said:
torrents only work as long as they are seeded. many files we use on xda must be moved, edited, or worked with, and you cant work on a file that is being seeded, so many users download then stop it so they can move and work with the files, and no longer seed, so if the host shuts off his computer, there will be little to no seeders, also if the host is the only one seeding, and is a high demand large file, it will be maxed out for the first hour or more till others get 100% and collects a few other seeders.
if there is little to no seeding, or a slow connection on the host side, the forums would FILL with complaints.
It would cause more issues than solve.
USE www.multiupload.com to host your files on multiple sites at one time. then they wont disappear when one site goes down.
personally - my utorrent only will have 2 download/uploads MAX ever at any time including seeding.
thats how i can download at 2.7 MB/s (full bandwidth) when other people are complaining of slow seeding on a torrent. I want to watch a 1.5 gig movie? I have it in 15 minutes. because i dont have 50 million things seeding and downloading at a time.
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Agreed. Torrents are good for some things and bad for others. Most people either do not seed after finishing a download, or seed very little. All this would amount to would be the dev/host of the file uploading significantly more, and using significantly more of their own bandwidth.
rational Canadians...
I'd support this 100% if it wasn't for the fact that my home ISP throttles BitTorrent like mad, and it seems outright banned at my university.
Auridran said:
Agreed. Torrents are good for some things and bad for others. Most people either do not seed after finishing a download, or seed very little. All this would amount to would be the dev/host of the file uploading significantly more, and using significantly more of their own bandwidth.
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I disagree. I use torrents extensively and seed everything for months at a time. I know many others who do the same. If the uploader wants only to upload once, it is trivial to set an upload limit to 1.00 share ratio, meaning the uploader would only upload once. Once it's out in the swarm it can proliferate wildly even if the dev or original seeder drops off ASAP.
TRusselo said:
personally - my utorrent only will have 2 download/uploads MAX ever at any time including seeding.
thats how i can download at 2.7 MB/s (full bandwidth) when other people are complaining of slow seeding on a torrent. I want to watch a 1.5 gig movie? I have it in 15 minutes. because i dont have 50 million things seeding and downloading at a time.
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This really has little to do with the number of torrents you have active/queued in your client and more to do with the speed limits and rules that you set in your client specifically. Most torrents do NOT upload data 24/7 and especially in a case like this where the ROM changes quickly the torrents will have a relatively short shelf life for active leechers.
Again, I do not think torrents should be the ONLY distribution mechanism, but I think they should be considered a first class distribution method and encouraged at least alongside upload sites if they can't replace them entirely.
I agree, if torrents are used, it will be more difficult for devs, means double the work for them. Keep it simple. Why make more work?.
Valir said:
I agree, if torrents are used, it will be more difficult for devs, means double the work for them. Keep it simple. Why make more work?.
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Why is it more difficult for devs? I don't get it. A person who can build an Android ROM can surely figure out a torrent client.
I've established many reasons why we should "make more work" by using torrents. One I haven't mentioned in this thread yet is that torrents automatically split files into chunks and checksums each chunk before checksumming the entire download. This provides automatic verification -- obviously very important for the kind of files being uploaded to XDA. If there is some corruption, the corrupted pieces only are discarded and redownloaded, potentially saving tons of bandwidth and time for individuals with shoddy connections that occasionally corrupt downloads. This is much more difficult to do with HTTP.
Valir said:
I agree, if torrents are used, it will be more difficult for devs, means double the work for them. Keep it simple. Why make more work?.
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I'm thinking it's all mainly because people don't want to type in a captcha! Lot of some people just can't take extra minute & support the hard work of these developers. Majority have careers, families. There putting there extra time to help and make stuff for others, with the majority not asking for anything in return except hit thanks, and a OPTION to donate. If you download a butt load of stuff from these creators/developers, to apps, to movies how hard is it to just donate/ get a subscription to a sharing site. To say thank you. These sites are used to help with that, (the un appreciation of users) and the developers appreciation to us users to keep it on a Thanks / Donation Basis.
What is it with the world now days? someone don't have a life, and whines. From TV shows (controversial, language), to the Internet to here. it's getting bad now. May think what this have to do with this? This is where it starts. everyone always trying to change the system for themself. Been same way for YEARS, & For a reason.
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Why is it more difficult for devs? I don't get it. A person who can build an Android ROM can surely figure out a torrent client.
I've established many reasons why we should "make more work" by using torrents. One I haven't mentioned in this thread yet is that torrents automatically split files into chunks and checksums each chunk before checksumming the entire download. This provides automatic verification -- obviously very important for the kind of files being uploaded to XDA. If there is some corruption, the corrupted pieces only are discarded and redownloaded, potentially saving tons of bandwidth and time for individuals with shoddy connections that occasionally corrupt downloads. This is much more difficult to do with HTTP.
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Why do they have to take more time out of the hours/days as it is, cause it will save you maybe 5 minutes.
You really have not made a point yet honestly! It 'takes longer' in a share site, how? Type a captcha in, maybe a 'slower speed' which you won't really notice, may cause minuites at most. it's going to average out, also it WILL DOWNLOAD why? Cause it don't need seeds.
These People are putting in HOURS ON HOURS ON DAYS FOR THIS STUFF. NOT EVEN CHARGING FOR THEIR HARD WORK, AGAIN THESE SITES ASSURE THEM FROM CHARGING CAUSE THE GET A LITTLE BIT FOR ALL THE DOWNLOADS. Your waiting 5 minutes? What's the issue? Seriously that's sad & Very un appreciative , Sorry just calling how I see it!
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With 2 of the sites used by MultiUpload taken down I think it's only a matter of time before the rest go.
XDA probably can't host the files, but what about a tracker?
Well first. No roms are uploaded to xda.
Second this has been brought up many times and each time it ends the same way. Most developers use their own hosting and don't trust torrents. In the end it is up to the developer how he wants to put up their roms. To be honest alot don't even use torrents.
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torrents only work as long as they are seeded. many files we use on xda must be moved, edited, or worked with, and you cant work on a file that is being seeded, so many users download then stop it so they can move and work with the files, and no longer seed, so if the host shuts off his computer, there will be little to no seeders, also if the host is the only one seeding, and is a high demand large file, it will be maxed out for the first hour or more till others get 100% and collects a few other seeders.
if there is little to no seeding, or a slow connection on the host side, the forums would FILL with complaints.
It would cause more issues than solve.
USE www.multiupload.com to host your files on multiple sites at one time. then they wont disappear when one site goes down.
personally - my utorrent only will have 2 download/uploads MAX ever at any time including seeding.
thats how i can download at 2.7 MB/s (full bandwidth) when other people are complaining of slow seeding on a torrent. I want to watch a 1.5 gig movie? I have it in 15 minutes. because i dont have 50 million things seeding and downloading at a time.
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Unless of course all site go down...now that would be a likely course of action right at this moment. FileSonic and Uploaded.to is gone.
TRusselo said:
torrents only work as long as they are seeded. many files we use on xda must be moved, edited, or worked with, and you cant work on a file that is being seeded, so many users download then stop it so they can move and work with the files, and no longer seed, so if the host shuts off his computer, there will be little to no seeders, also if the host is the only one seeding, and is a high demand large file, it will be maxed out for the first hour or more till others get 100% and collects a few other seeders.
if there is little to no seeding, or a slow connection on the host side, the forums would FILL with complaints.
It would cause more issues than solve.
USE www.multiupload.com to host your files on multiple sites at one time. then they wont disappear when one site goes down.
personally - my utorrent only will have 2 download/uploads MAX ever at any time including seeding.
thats how i can download at 2.7 MB/s (full bandwidth) when other people are complaining of slow seeding on a torrent. I want to watch a 1.5 gig movie? I have it in 15 minutes. because i dont have 50 million things seeding and downloading at a time.
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Let's say, slow seeding and downloading at 1.7 MB/s. Thanks damn fu**ing fast for some countries (i.e. Brasil, wich I download at 1.0 MB/s at night (most seeders active)). I pay a lot (everything in here is so expensive compared to Europe/North America, eletronics cost 2 to 3 times more than in US). And I make part from the minory who can pay for this. 1.0 MB/s is damn fast, as the brazilian average is 100 to 200 KB/s.
What I mean is, look at the other side. One thing you are complaining without base.
@topic: I +1'ed this ideia. Is better and we avoid the file losing on the closing sites. We can still use Dropbox/Box.net/Minus/etc. and file sharing sites (Mediafire/Filesonic/dead Megaupload) to share minor files (i.e hotfixes, apps, themes, etc.)
I havent downloaded movies music not so long ago. yesterday I wanted to download 5 music albums. what I got is 5 songs for searching google in 1 hour. before I just type in get results and working links. all file upload providers now deletes it right away. some just gave up sharing files, you just can download your own upload. Whats happening. Is this stupid SOPA might be already running in google servers and the internet in anonymous mode?
I noticed this already in the last month or two, havent been downloading much at all, I never really used torrents as I never really gelled with them, I used Rapidshare for years, but now that all the file hosters are going tits up I need something new, so I am gonna try out Usenet this evening and see if I like it, my friends swear by it....
Ive seen that usenet before but never tried it. Im gonna test it to when Im on pc. thanks for sharing, I hope its free.
beemp3 is good.
Ill test that one too. thanks
Hi, it is still easy to get whatever you want really esaily.
P2P is obvious winner : torrents/magnets, slsk...
DDL : Pirate App, Blogspot. Search-fu skills... Russian sites too (http://zaycev.net/search.html?query_search= for instance...)
Usenet : paying. C'mon, don't do that. They're the same bastards as MU and RS... Making money on artists' back.
I'm a Black/Death metal head, and I easily manage to find whatever I want, so if you're listening to more popular music, you shouldn't have any problem
I hope this helps
what I only understand in that site is silicon stuff. I dont need it since I dont have boobs.
edit also says something about a chip, put a motor in it then you have vibra boobs.
comaX13 said:
Hi, it is still easy to get whatever you want really esaily.
P2P is obvious winner : torrents/magnets, slsk...
DDL : Pirate App, Blogspot. Search-fu skills... Russian sites too (http://zaycev.net/search.html?query_search= for instance...)
Usenet : paying. C'mon, don't do that. They're the same bastards as MU and RS... Making money on artists' back.
I'm a Black/Death metal head, and I easily manage to find whatever I want, so if you're listening to more popular music, you shouldn't have any problem
I hope this helps
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Wow, people still use Soulseek?
Theres a name I aint heard in eons! I used to use it for dj music many moons ago when I was on dial up....
To be honest, I only want usenet for movies/tv shows.... I payed for Rapidshare for 2 years and the service was great, so I have no issue paying a fee again if I have hassle free downloading.... (I live in rural ireland, my connection is 4mbs!)
I still support and buy ALL my music as im a dj who plays radio every week and gigs regularly enough aswell, so I need receipts for that stuff....
I didnt get around to setting up newsgroups last night due to not being arsed connecting my laptop to my tv, next time gadget, next time.....
@m1ndh4x8r : Yeah, russian stuff you know... Being French I had troubles with it too, but it's not that hard to manage. Try PirateApp though, you should be fulfilled : https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Pirate-App/125065507548174?sk=info
@Ko_Ka : It sure is an old stuff and I don't use it much nowadays, but it still works, and it's still good to find underground content
The thing about paying is not that I don't want to, but for illegaly downloading something, no, I won't pay yet another mafia. And I sure buy a fair share of the music I download when I can and attend to as much gigs as I can. This way I make sure the artists get the maximum possible amount out of my money. Not some filthy over-rich mafia dude like MU's creator.
Haven't you guys seen what has been going on?
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That is to say ?
Are you talking about SOPA/PIPA/ACTA, MU&Cie down ?
Discussing warez is NOT allowed on xda.