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Excalibur wiki

I've been trying to spelunk through the posts here and put all the salient information in some sort of organized form on the wiki. Hopefully it'll give newcomers and lurkers a good starting point. Also, it should help eliminate some arrogant "we've answered this a thousand times" responses from regulars. In the absence of a good team of moderators, hopefully it will help out.
Check it out here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Excalibur

nice work

Thanks, this will help a lot of people.

Good work!
Cheers.

Excelent summary
beartard said:
I've been trying to spelunk through the posts here and put all the salient information in some sort of organized form on the wiki. Hopefully it'll give newcomers and lurkers a good starting point. Also, it should help eliminate some arrogant "we've answered this a thousand times" responses from regulars. In the absence of a good team of moderators, hopefully it will help out.
Check it out here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Excalibur
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Kudos!
I think that's a great idea! Keep conversations in the forums that reference a wiki of key information.

Just wanted to say...
Good job. I'm glad someone decided to do this. Keep the posts up to date, that's the only way this thing is even slightly useful. So far, so good, though.
I'll help if you want. Just let me know what to do. Take it easy bro.
P.S. In reference to your message to me the other day. Did you notice the calendar and the clock. Both say something special on the time and dates.
LOL!
beartard said:
I've been trying to spelunk through the posts here and put all the salient information in some sort of organized form on the wiki. Hopefully it'll give newcomers and lurkers a good starting point. Also, it should help eliminate some arrogant "we've answered this a thousand times" responses from regulars. In the absence of a good team of moderators, hopefully it will help out.
Check it out here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Excalibur
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wow thats nice, added to bookmarks

outerdepth said:
Good job. I'm glad someone decided to do this. Keep the posts up to date, that's the only way this thing is even slightly useful. So far, so good, though.
I'll help if you want. Just let me know what to do. Take it easy bro.
P.S. In reference to your message to me the other day. Did you notice the calendar and the clock. Both say something special on the time and dates.
LOL!
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There have been way too many responses here lately that were less than civil to someone looking for help, as if editing a registry key is arcane knowledge that should only be held by a lofty elite. Also, there were plenty of repeat questions that may have been answered 30 pages or so down in the forum. I will tell you that the default google search of the forum is unwise and really doesn't help unless you word things very carefully. At least the "advanced" search lets you limit your search to a particular device's forum. But it's not readily obvious that the text telling you to use it is actually a link.
So, I went back to the beginning of this year to pull stuff out of forum posts for the wiki. I'm sure there was more further back, but I just didn't have the patience to cut through all the crap.
And have at it, brother. It's the community's wiki. I just figured it was time someone "seeded" it.

Sorry for the bump. Just wanted everyone to know that the wiki is being regularly updated now and most, if not all, of the frequently asked questions are there. A wealth of information has been added and some of the areas (like CHome Weather) now have their own pages.
I'm inviting everyone to help keep this up-to-date. I'll be trying to pretty it up and keep everything in some sort of unified style. If you notice anything is missing or needs to be updated, please update it. If you're uncomfortable doing that, just let me know and I'll get right on it.

beartard said:
Sorry for the bump. Just wanted everyone to know that the wiki is being regularly updated now and most, if not all, of the frequently asked questions are there. A wealth of information has been added and some of the areas (like CHome Weather) now have their own pages.
I'm inviting everyone to help keep this up-to-date. I'll be trying to pretty it up and keep everything in some sort of unified style. If you notice anything is missing or needs to be updated, please update it. If you're uncomfortable doing that, just let me know and I'll get right on it.
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Great Work, Brother.
If you noticed, I now have everything in the stickied thread and will be updating it. That way, people won't have to click a link each time because I know some people are just lazy and would rather have everything in one place.
Your an important addition to this community. Thanks once again.

anyone else think this site is very poorly organized

sorry to complain, and this is not a hit on any of the hard work of the developers here, but this site is extremely hard to find any useful information or download any roms off of. I mean honestly, do I need to browse through 800 pages of posts on a single thread to find answers to problems? do you even realize how much redundancy is going on? and all the developers pushing donation requests in your face is kind of annoying. the forum idea was not a good choice to organize the heaps of info on this site. just my opinion, go ahead and flame away...

phenixsun said:
sorry to complain, and this is not a hit on any of the hard work of the developers here, but this site is extremely hard to find any useful information or download any roms off of. I mean honestly, do I need to browse through 800 pages of posts on a single thread to find answers to problems? do you even realize how much redundancy is going on? and all the developers pushing donation requests in your face is kind of annoying. the forum idea was not a good choice to organize the heaps of info on this site. just my opinion, go ahead and flame away...
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First off, there will be no flaming. Secondly, I see a lot of complaining, but very little in the way of helpful suggestions.
I would recommend that you don't waste your time reading through hundreds of pages of each thread. There is a search function that will search each thread, each forum, or the whole site. Learn to use those tools and you'll find that the information isn't as hard to find as you thought at first.

Here's a little tip regarding roms. I've got a HTC vox so i go to the vox section and lo and behold, Roms
A suggestion for the mods while i'm here. Can you make the quick reply box "active" so users can post a reply without have to click on the little thing?

Even the little click is too much for you?
I think you are a lazy men... and yes I agree it is in chaos!!! but with this thread is worst why cause its posted before... click a little on the little thingy you have said and type.... Chaos forum... many many threads about it...
Think about it a few seconds... would you able to enjoy this chaotic site... hahahaha I DO!
dont think just enjoy helping people and making this ****in devices even better than yesterday.
BYE.

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Here's a little tip regarding roms. I've got a HTC vox so i go to the vox section and lo and behold, Roms
A suggestion for the mods while i'm here. Can you make the quick reply box "active" so users can post a reply without have to click on the little thing?
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There is a very good reason why QR is broken. The site admin is aware of it.
Ta
Dave

the main reason is to stop spamming Bot , the bots werent or arent that intelligent to press the QR button and then post, but still they spam with diff User ID's

Idea:The "Thank You" thread / Thank You button

Since I have subscribed to a lot of threads I also get a lot of notifications. That's great offcourse. But what's less great is that a lot of those messages only contains "Thank you very much"or less.
Example : Thank You
Don't misunderstand me. It is great you all thank the programmers for their work. But it doesn't add anything more to the thread nor the program.
So I like to propose to start a "Thank you" thread which I already started just now
If you like to thank somebody it can be posted in this thread. With every "Thank you" you can point to the specific thread with the url of the thread, pointing to the first message.
btw.Many programmers will also appriciate a donation as a "Thank You", I think.
Also to keep their work going
So would you now like to say "Thanks" to somebody?
Then put it in here
Well, thanks

Thank you, but I rather put my "thank you"s in the thread of the developer.

when people wana say thank you..they mean thankyou for
1>ur program
2>the things in this thread that solved my problem
3>the discussion made me feel i no somethin g bout my phone
4>thank you for being alive
so they must post it in the thread!!
not here..
then next time someone comes to the thread they see a thankyou
then they feel..hell lets search bfor posting a question cause someone got a answer!
so then they search and find their answer!!and the cycle continues!!

I don't think they *have* too.
As I said a before only "Thank you" doesn't add anything to the thread nor the program.And people who has subscribe to this thread get useless notifications.It clutters up the thread.So it is redunant in my opinion.
Something like "Thank you but I have this problem with your program" or "Thank you but I have this idea" or "Thank you can you add?"whatever" is something different.Others can participate to this. To a "Thank you"they can't.
Example
Like in my example you can ask yourself. Who is he thanking? The programmer? The one for replied before him? Somebody who gave a tip about the program or a link, WHO?
But offcourse have it like you want it. It was just an idea

well it is a real dilemma for people who are reading up a thread from scratch trying to find something ....and you get all the flaming, thanks and so many other remarks
there was a forum that fixed this by putting a Thank you button behind each entry in a thread .
So once you push it youll see a footer with "The following people wish to thank ..." and its lists each person.
im not sure if it can be done here .....oh mighty gods of XDA....is this possible ?
im not sure if i can type in the name of that forum here ...

Well, interesting idea, but isn't it easier to make "thank you" button? You just click that in chosen thread and it is done... DB space and bandwidth saved.

torrentonly said:
Well, interesting idea, but isn't it easier to make "thank you" button? You just click that in chosen thread and it is done... DB space and bandwidth saved.
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Seems to me like a good idea, a "thank you"button. thanks TripleA

A thank you thread already has been placed before here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534413

orb3000 said:
A thank you thread already has been placed before here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534413
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Right. But TripleA had a good idea, see the above. A different idea.

hendrixus said:
Right. But TripleA had a good idea, see the above. A different idea.
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Theres is also another thread regarding the thank you button...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539440
+1 vote for it

orb3000 said:
Theres is also another thread regarding the thank you button...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539440
+1 vote for it
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It was posted today. TripleA's idea is from two days ago

Youre right mate
sorry
Anyway very good idea!

orb3000 said:
Youre right mate
sorry
Anyway very good idea!
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That's ok. Right.

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Posts removed -Enough of the thankyou's please
Ta
Rick

Some other forums add a kudos button to the person's avatar so that you can thank a specific person, and people are sort of graded by how much kudos they get, meaning how much good they've done to the community, how reliable, in a sense they are, etc...There is also the negative (boo!) button when people are unhappy with something.
All this have it's pros and cons, depending on how grown-up or how childish (abusive?) people can be at times. But there is no doubt that it saves time and space. And nothing stops people saying thanks in other ways as well.

wovens said:
Some other forums add a kudos button to the person's avatar so that you can thank a specific person, and people are sort of graded by how much kudos they get, meaning how much good they've done to the community, how reliable, in a sense they are, etc...There is also the negative (boo!) button when people are unhappy with something.
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Every advantage has its disavantages
And nothing stops people saying thanks in other ways as well.
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No they won't. That's why this thread to try to come up with ideas so they do stop, and thank people on another way, like with a button. As you said. It saves space!

thank you button for vbulletin http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=122944

i button would be very good and i think the best solution

Advantage: Less Clutter on Thread.
Disadvantage: Less personal/threads drop down list faster.
To be honest i don't see saying thankyou as an issue, what's more of an issue is mountain size quotes and multiple same questions asked by uncompitent searchers or just plain lazziness
"So maybe the OP of the thread should have more controll over the thread being able to delete the redundant posts?"

Suggestion about "thank you" posts

i don't know if this is worth the work that might be necessary to be put in or if it is even possible, but hear me out:
i am active on a lot of forums and i have seen that lately, many forums switch their policy on "thank you" posts, forbidding users from creating new posts, just to say thank you. instead, most implemented a feature, that gives you a button at the end of every post, next to quote and quick reply... that is meant for thanking the original poster.
the idea behind it is to keep threads clean, so that even in a section with many visitors, it is easy to find relevant information.
some rom threads here have so many posts (most of which just "thank you"s), that the chefs have a hard time finding actual bug reports or constructive criticism. often, in tutorial threads, all the thank you posts make it hard to find actual questions of people in need.
i am mostly supporting newbie users here and writing tutorials and i like it, when people actually appreciate my work, but by doing it with a button instead of a text, everything would stay a lot cleaner.
somehow i feel, that in my new section (blackstone), "thanks" is the new spam clogging the forum.
especially threads like the blackstone nrg rom thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562952) with 17,945 Replies and 2,834,609 Views are a good example to profit from my suggestion but also every other rom thread, tutorial thread or FAQ thread would be better off

Niice idea I have seen this over at se7ensin and I think it would be useful, or maybe just a thunbs up and down button

You can rate threads using the star buttons up at the top of the page already, but not a post in particular.

You know, we actually built this feature a few months back. At the last minute, we killed it for some reason. If there is a lot of support for this idea, we can re-investigate, but for now you can show your love for a thread by rating it.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

I'd support the idea of a Thank You button here on xda, but with the number of users on daily... even hourly, that's THOUSANDS of Thank Yous'... which will increase the database size ginormously... and possibly jack up the Post Bit Legacy format... Just my two cents, though I haven't Administered a vBulletin board & database since 3.7.2. I'm not sure about the new features implemented in the 3.8.x series.

No Thanks or Dislike Option

Hi to all XDA members,
firstly just wanna thank you guys for this great forum. without it, well my phone will be simply be a brick.
just wanted to highlight that when i read through threads and post, i see guys posting all kinds of useless stuff, or even wrong info and REQUEST for thanks...some post dangerous stuff which could end up in bricking a phone..some actually will reply a post by saying thank me if my post helped you. example below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27310617&postcount=2621
i just thought if we could add a dislike or no thanks button or something to that effect to have better control of quality on post. so that members will be careful with all this. and so taht threads dont become uneccesarily spamed with hundreds of pages of reading only to have low quality posts.
thanks guys!! thanks for everything !

ad_ek said:
Hi to all XDA members,
firstly just wanna thank you guys for this great forum. without it, well my phone will be simply be a brick.
just wanted to highlight that when i read through threads and post, i see guys posting all kinds of useless stuff, or even wrong info and REQUEST for thanks...some post dangerous stuff which could end up in bricking a phone..some actually will reply a post by saying thank me if my post helped you. example below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27310617&postcount=2621
i just thought if we could add a dislike or no thanks button or something to that effect to have better control of quality on post. so that members will be careful with all this. and so taht threads dont become uneccesarily spamed with hundreds of pages of reading only to have low quality posts.
thanks guys!! thanks for everything !
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In cases such as the example you gave, as long as the guy posting 'hit thanks' has actually helped the OP, I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed. I don't do that myself, but there's a reason they introduced the thanks button into these forums, so that threads weren't cluttered up by people posting 'thanks' and people really don't use the thanks button enough. IMO if you are on XDA pretty much every day, at least just browsing through your favourite ROMs and checking for updates, you should really be using all of your thanks every day.
As for the dislike button idea, I think I've read that they are testing a thumbs up/thumbs down button, and they had certainly implemented a beta in the GNex forums at some point.

hi nigel,
yup you are right. ppl should use it more often. many tend to post thanks instead of hitting the button. i 100% agree we need to use it.
its the other post that are not useful or even accurate that is posted needs to also be addressed.
thanks for sharing about the thumb down option. this will be great..

I think it is a good idea but I don't know how will it work...
Look, the devs put a lot of their time at developing their roms, I imagine some stupids to hit a dislike button just because they prefer another rom.....do you see? Do the devs have to carry negative "results" just because some are @#$%$#@@#
In the other hand, it is true,maybe due to so many members ,that there are so many useless posts in usefull threads, and that's a big problem.
If that would decrease the number of them(useless posts), I surely support it!!!
I really like to see members who want to make that community better.thanks for sharing your suggestion.
Sent from my X8 using xda premium

Hmmm you are right..ive seen some guys that have beef with developers here, and they might use that to give them bad rep just as an sabotage.
its going to be difficult indeed. but now that i think about, its easier to deal with annoying post, rather than idiots pissing off real developers who are contributing to the community.
im not sure if the trade off is going worth it. ive seen developers having to deal with the stupidest of questions and the laziness of readers everyday and i feel so bad for them. i always try to help answer simple stuff that i know from reading. I started this thread in hopes to help them, but it might just backfire.