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Hi Guys. I'm using BT PAN Internet Sharing (on 3G) a lot. However, the power has to stay on in order to maintain a connection, and I'm draining the battery very fast (probably around 1hr of use).
Is this normal? Is there a way I can reduce this?
When I hold the power button I expect the backlight to turn off, but not so on the Hermes. If I go to backlight settings, even the lowest setting is perfectly visible (ie there's still a backlight there).
Is anyone else finding this or am I being a muppet and missing something?
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Hi Guys. I'm using BT PAN Internet Sharing (on 3G) a lot. However, the power has to stay on in order to maintain a connection, and I'm draining the battery very fast (probably around 1hr of use).
Is this normal? Is there a way I can reduce this?
When I hold the power button I expect the backlight to turn off, but not so on the Hermes. If I go to backlight settings, even the lowest setting is perfectly visible (ie there's still a backlight there).
Is anyone else finding this or am I being a muppet and missing something?
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what radio version and ROM are you using...
It does have to stay on. I lock my device but expect the device to drain quickly due to the 3g data usage.
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what radio version and ROM are you using...
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I'm on 1.18.00. It's default for South Africa, and I've no idea whether the higher versions will be better in SA, or will prove to be less tightly tuned to our exact frequency (altho GSM operators work in bands around 900 or 1800 etc, in reality each country is more specific than that).
it´s not BT PAN that is draining the power from your TyTn... it´s your 3G connection. I´ve got Chi Tai Dang BatteryStatus TD Plugin installed in my device. Without 3G/HSPDA the power usage is about 90mA (BT: on WIFI: off) ... with data connection active .. it´s over 450mA !!! I don´t know if it is a hardware bug, but the power usage of this device with data tranfer is incredible!!
Probably something to do with the separate 3g chip to the main processor. The newer combined chips will no doubt be better in the future.
As said in title, I have a problem after updating to Gingerbread. In battery use it says that Dialer is using about 20% of battery. Does anyone else have this problem and are there any solutions for it?
I have this problem too, i opened another thread, btw i made a factory reset but the problem is still present.
I think that there aren't solution now, because htc in this new 2.3.3 rom change the radio,
i forced mine to only wcdma mode and disabled always-on mobile data.also i disabled best wi-fi performance when wifi is enabled.also when mobile data is switched on, i turn off wifi and vice versa. far now it is much better. if anyone do like me, pls tell me if is any improvement for you.
sedatif781 said:
i forced mine to only wcdma mode and disabled always-on mobile data.also i disabled best wi-fi performance when wifi is enabled.also when mobile data is switched on, i turn off wifi and vice versa. far now it is much better. if anyone do like me, pls tell me if is there any improvement
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Perhaps leaving wcda always active will consume more than ever to leave gsm mode?
However disabling always-on mobile data in 2g/3g settings menu,your apps and widgets are updated automatically?
when i leave only wcdma, i think will consume less power because it didnt try always and always to switch to better signal (from 2g to 3g and vice versa).i have only weather auto update on and i didnt noticed any change .
sedatif781 said:
when i leave only wcdma, i think will consume less power because it didnt try always and always to switch to better signal (from 2g to 3g and vice versa).i have only weather auto update on and i didnt noticed any change .
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Now i have only GSM mode, btw i can try to disable always on mobile data keep active in the 2g/3g menu and hope that this radio will consume less power.
I thought maybe the problem could be caused by a bug introduced with the new management processes that consume the battery, also because there is the graphic that was not there.
Let me explain:
The details of the processes that consume battery is correct because if I go on "DIALRE" the voice tells me that the CPU has been used only 6 minutes in 20 hours, so little, but shows the % is too high.
Same thing with regard to the voice "Telephone inactive", says it's been idle for less than 20 minutes that I used. but the % is too low.
So it could be a bug that we see that the phone uses too much and we blame the new radio?
Hi everyone
Dialer uses much battery, because it's using the sensors all the time (even with screen off/standby).
You can check that for example in "Battery History for GB" app (you'll find it on xda...)
I wrote some posts about this issue on the ARHD thread in DHD Development (just search for "Dialer" on the thread).
So far no one has a solution... so I guess it's a bug HTC build in... :/
If any one has a solution or a fix please post it
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So it could be a bug that we see that the phone uses too much and we blame the new radio?
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I tried 3 different radios... I had that problem with each one of them.
scungilli said:
Hi everyone
Dialer uses much battery, because it's using the sensors all the time (even with screen off/standby).
You can check that for example in "Battery History for GB" app (you'll find it on xda...)
I wrote some posts about this issue on the ARHD thread in DHD Development (just search for "Dialer" on the thread).
So far no one has a solution... so I guess it's a bug HTC build in... :/
If any one has a solution or a fix please post it
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I tried 3 different radios... I had that problem with each one of them.
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So, the problem is the official 2.3.3 not the new radio?
Btw, also with dialer voice at 30% of consume, i have 28% of battery available now and the last unplugged was 1g and 15 hours ago, with medium use,.
Whit the 2.2.1 with the same use, my best was 1g and 6h.
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So, the problem is the official 2.3.3 not the new radio?
Btw, also with dialer voice at 30% of consume, i have 28% of battery available now and the last unplugged was 1g and 15 hours ago, with medium use,.
Whit the 2.2.1 with the same use, my best was 1g and 6h.
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Seems like it's a problem with the official release.
If you google the issue you'll find people with other phones solving the issue by setting the "Turn to mute" feature to off...
Problem with this: We don't have that setting :/
For me Dialer doubles the standby battery use... so battery life is good, but could be much better.
scungilli said:
Seems like it's a problem with the official release.
If you google the issue you'll find people with other phones solving the issue by setting the "Turn to mute" feature to off...
Problem with this: We don't have that setting :/
For me Dialer doubles the standby battery use... so battery life is good, but could be much better.
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So we can not do anything to solve this problem? We have to wait a patch from google? HTC will not do it then maybe never or maybe the 2.3.4
Maybe in the other Roms, cooker have solved this problem..
can we turn off the proximity sensor?
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So we can not do anything to solve this problem? We have to wait a patch from google? HTC will not do it then maybe never or maybe the 2.3.4
Maybe in the other Roms, cooker have solved this problem..
can we turn off the proximity sensor?
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I think the problem is within the htc dialer app, so htc has to fix it...
Does anyone know if the "turn to mute" option was there in the official froyo roms?
Maybe it's possible to edit the setting manually then and switch off the feature in the settings file by copying the relevant settings string from the old config...
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Maybe it's possible to use the old dialer app from froyo in GB...
Somebody has to try ^^
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Turning off the proximity sensor completely would resolve in dropping calls with your ear, because display doesn't turn off when you move your phone to your ear ^^
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Installing HTCDialer.apk from ARHD 3.7 on 5.1.4 does not work...
Same issue for me : the dialer is supposed to be using 10 to 20% of battery, eventhough it only used the CPU for less than one minute...
I'm quite sure this wasn't the case on Froyo...
I am investigating this problem, the point is that I have heard other people with the desire hd on an Italian forum, and apparently almost no one experience this problem.
I'm thinking that maybe the problem is due to some app, widget, or maybe some setting of the carrier.
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I am investigating this problem, the point is that I have heard other people with the desire hd on an Italian forum, and apparently almost no one experience this problem.
I'm thinking that maybe the problem is due to some app, widget, or maybe some setting of the carrier.
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I made a fullwipe twice and reflashed the rom, I restored nothing, really nothing - and the issue was there.
So it must have something to do with provider or maybe the hardware (some components from another manufacturer than most phones?) I don't now. Maybe just an ultra rare random bug in the original firmware, that happens when your IMEI starts with what not (just joking).
I can also confirm that the bug was not in froyo but in many gingerbread Roms on different phones. So maybe a general bug in gingerbread. If only someone could figure out a way to disable the "turn to mute" feature.
After what I read that should solve our problem...
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scungilli said:
I made a fullwipe twice and reflashed the rom, I restored nothing, really nothing - and the issue was there.
So it must have something to do with provider or maybe the hardware (some components from another manufacturer than most phones?) I don't now. Maybe just an ultra rare random bug in the original firmware, that happens when your IMEI starts with what not (just joking). No clue really :/
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Or maybe just those who are not experiencing the issue is why does not realize it because they use the phone so heavy, and more % are given by other processes, so that they see "dialer" is a 6% 7% max.
jackalac said:
Or maybe just those who are not experiencing the issue is why does not realize it because they use the phone so heavy, and more % are given by other processes, so that they see "dialer" is a 6% 7% max.
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Yeah could be... We need to turn this feature off, my best guess at the moment...
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Mine is around 11% at the end of the day, but I only made a 1mn call...
And it was always nearly 0% in Froyo...
Is it increasing with phone call lengh?
I'm also wondering if this is just a new way to compute the battery usage : maybe Froyo wasn't able to "see" this usage, so the percentage was allocated to other items, but in this case the battery lengh would be the same. Just the ratio per item would be different. What do you think?
My screen battery usage was around 80% before upgrading, now it is only 58%, Dialer increased, system increased, but I'm under the feeling that my battery still last the same time...
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Mine is around 11% at the end of the day, but I only made a 1mn call...
And it was always nearly 0% in Froyo...
Is it increasing with phone call lengh?
I'm also wondering if this is just a new way to compute the battery usage : maybe Froyo wasn't able to "see" this usage, so the percentage was allocated to other items, but in this case the battery lengh would be the same. Just the ratio per item would be different. What do you think?
My screen battery usage was around 80% before upgrading, now it is only 58%, Dialer increased, system increased, but I'm under the feeling that my battery still last the same time...
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Hi,
as far as I noticed it's not increasing with call lenght.
It actually starts to drain battery, when you make a one second call, then it uses the sensors the whole time.
If you reboot your phone and don't start the dialer or take a call, then it will not drain your battery.
That leads to my conclusion, that it is a bug in the dialer, because it should'nt use the sensors when my phone is in standby overnight.
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My battery life seems to have decreased comparing to froyo.
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Hi,
as far as I noticed it's not increasing with call lenght.
It actually starts to drain battery, when you make a one second call, then it uses the sensors the whole time.
If you reboot your phone and don't start the dialer or take a call, then it will not drain your battery.
That leads to my conclusion, that it is a bug in the dialer, because it should'nt use the sensors when my phone is in standby overnight.
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My battery life seems to have decreased comparing to froyo.
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I have the voice "dialer" with high % of consume also when removed from charge and I leave the dhd on the desk, inactive in standby, and I do not make any phone call.
That's why I say that I think the problem is not the proximity sensor problem, but maybe other.
However to me the battery lasts much longer but even with this problem, I can do at least 10 hours in more than Froyo with the same usage.
@ samsenteur: I asked on another Italian forum, and many users do not have this problem, perhaps because the % of telephone as it changes when the high screen and system are high, so with a heavy phone during the day.
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Hi!
I recently installed PowerTutor on CM7 nightly from yesterday. An app to display the power consumption in mA. Now I recognized some strange behaviour.
First I measured the power consumption with display on highest power. ->700mA
Second I measred with lowest power. -> 350mA
then I switched on auto-brightness. -> 350mA
When I switch on auto-brightness after having the display on highest power it uses 700mA.
Can anybody confirm this?
Thanks for your answers!
I'we noticed it too
After a clean install i always set the brightness level to lowest value and then activate auto brightness and it is ok.
I did this even on a samsung Galaxy s - Custom ROM 2.3.3 and it keeps batery from quickly draining.
I'll try it out on an original Defy and post results here. If it's a CM7 bug, I'm gonna post it on github.
Anybody else having noticed this?
Hi, i noticed this also after installing the cm7.1.
I found this issue from the battery usage info. On previous versions the highest consumption was from the cell stdby and idle phone, and in this version about 80% os the display
Exactly the same values, any solutions... Display eat so much more power compare to stock 2.2, but why... I want to try some tips about to decrease display consumption
I have reproduced the problem...but I think it is due to the way power tutor misestimates LCD power draw, not an actual of LCD power usage. See post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17674701&postcount=11806
and the few posts above...
gkai said:
I have reproduced the problem...but I think it is due to the way power tutor misestimates LCD power draw, not an actual of LCD power usage. See post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17674701&postcount=11806
and the few posts above...
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This
The Defy doesnt have any reporting measurement in the Battery driver, this means we cant see how many mA are actually being consumed.
Doesnt matter if it is Froyo, Cm7 or MIUI, the Driver just doesnt provide the info to the OS. All we can use are Voltage readings and estimations.
Right now if the battery level is below certain point, the brightness setting and stand-by time setting get automatically set by the system, and cannot be changed.
I don't know what app or what part of the system is doing this for me automatically. I unchecked "power saving mode" and still.
This is very frustrating. I understand the phone may THINK it's helping me save battery but in fact the brightness I want and I usually set is even LOWER than the auto value the phone sets for me. And besides, I don't like the idea that MY phone is being controlled by someone/something else and I don't have an option to disable that something.
Someone please shed some light?
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Note that this is NOT the "power saving mode". I disabled "power saving mode" and still this problem.
513263337 said:
Right now if the battery level is below certain point, the brightness setting and stand-by time setting get automatically set by the system, and cannot be changed.
I don't know what app or what part of the system is doing this for me automatically. I unchecked "power saving mode" and still.
This is very frustrating. I understand the phone may THINK it's helping me save battery but in fact the brightness I want and I usually set is even LOWER than the auto value the phone sets for me. And besides, I don't like the idea that MY phone is being controlled by someone/something else and I don't have an option to disable that something.
Someone please shed some light?
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this is the last 5% of battery correct?
G1_enthusiast said:
this is the last 5% of battery correct?
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I don't know the number right now. I'll keep an eye on phone as the battery drops and let you guys know the exact threshold that triggers this.
If it's some system app that's doing this, I have no problem freezing it using Titanium Backup just like how I freezed "Tethering Manager" to enable wifi hotspot and I freezed "My Account" so that 3G doesn't come on when wifi is connected.
Just don't know which app it is...
have you flash other roms to see if it go away? i think jug 2.0 take away this problem
And the even more ridiculous thing about it is that it auto sets the stand-by time to 30 seconds, and after I charge the battery to above the threshold it doesn't change the stand-by time back to where you set it! You have to change it back yourself.
Did you try a master reset and see if that fixed it?
No guys its like builtin in alot of roms with out apps... Its the system
Sent From my Galaxy S II T-Mobile
For me there is a "power savings mode" right in the settings menu that does what you describe. Granted I'm not on stock ROM, but I think it was there with the Telus ROM too.
Liquid5n0w said:
For me there is a "power savings mode" right in the settings menu that does what you describe. Granted I'm not on stock ROM, but I think it was there with the Telus ROM too.
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sounds exactly like pwer saving mode!! its in the settings
movieaddict said:
sounds exactly like pwer saving mode!! its in the settings
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This isnt power saving mode causing this. Power saving mode is turned off and this still happens to me once my battery hits like 10%. This is built into the rom somewhere and the vibrant had the same thing. One of the devs for the vibrant was able to disable this setting in their rom so maybe the devs can do the same here. Again this is not power saving mode which can be set at certain levels that you would like.
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Yeah once it reach 5%, the autobrightness become very bright and doesn't change..I have tested it on all ROM..and it's not the powersaving..I think it drain the battery really fast to help mentation the health of the battery..just guessing though..and stock ROM is more sensitive than jnault ROM..
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This isnt power saving mode causing this. Power saving mode is turned off and this still happens to me once my battery hits like 10%. This is built into the rom somewhere and the vibrant had the same thing. One of the devs for the vibrant was able to disable this setting in their rom so maybe the devs can do the same here. Again this is not power saving mode which can be set at certain levels that you would like.
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Yeah once it reach 5%, the autobrightness become very bright and doesn't change..I have tested it on all ROM..and it's not the powersaving..I think it drain the battery really fast to help mentation the health of the battery..just guessing though..and stock ROM is more sensitive than jnault ROM..
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You guys are right. It's not the power saving mode. This happens even when I turn OFF my power saving mode. It's something else in the system that's doing this, and yes, the auto brightness the system sets is even brighter than what I previously set myself. So, what a useful feature!
mine does the right thing, opposite of what your phones are doing. im guessing at about 5% battery life, the display sets itself pretty close to the lowest (if not the lowest) brightness setting, even with my power saving mode option unchecked. i wonder if the auto adjust screen power has something to do with it, since i got that checked all the time. but maybe not. im running on beastmod 1.0 rom.
My S4 mini SGH-i257M was malfunctioning so i sent it in for repair. The local Rogers store sent it to FutureTel in Markham [Toronto] Ontario Canada. This is what they did, according to the Completion Report that came back with the phone ...
;RF Calibration performed to enhance RX/TX performance and network connectivity. Passed RF compliance test to meet manufacturer specifications. Adjusted battery level to optimize power usage.
It has been two weeks now and not only has it not malfunctioned, but the battery life is significantly improved - from 2 or 3 days of light use [usually just 2] to 5 days of light use.
What did they actually do? Does the recalibration affect hardware or software? Did they perhaps re-clock the CPU down to a slower speed? Any way to check this? What do they mean by adjusted battery level?
The phone is running KitKat 4.4.2, not rooted.
Thank you,
Mick
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The first part (RF calibration) means they adjusted the radio to improve reception and transmission(rx/tx), so your call/network/wifi reception will be better; the battery level adjustment implies they altered the voltage to improve battery life. In both cases it's more likely they replaced faulty parts with fully functioning ones. Good to see you finally got your issue solved Mick
It seems like what they did is install the OS from factory state and give u a new battery and maybe re clocked the CPU. Unfortunately they won't give you the proper information on what they did nor will u able to find it. There are some apps which tell u what system and software it uses but that's about it
All that I can tell you is RF stands for Radio Frequency. Apparently your cellular radio was tuned a bit off from whatever frequency(ies) your carrier uses. I wonder how they calibrate this.
Their statement "Adjusted battery level to optimize power usage" makes no sense to me. It's almost an oxymoron! But then, when signal level or reception of signal is poor, firmware detects this and gives the hardware an extra kick of battery juice. So maybe that's what they adjusted?
I'm really just guessing about RF calibration and battery adjustment. Hopefully somebody more knowledgeable will shed better light, especially regarding your questions about processor speed
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Here are three replies from other forums to this same question. Anyone here want to include an opinion? It would be most appreciated ...
The first part (RF calibration) means they adjusted the radio to improve reception and transmission(rx/tx), so your call/network/wifi reception will be better; the battery level adjustment implies they altered the voltage to improve battery life. In both cases it's more likely they replaced faulty parts with fully functioning ones. Good to see you finally got your issue solved Mick
It seems like what they did is install the OS from factory state and give u a new battery and maybe re clocked the CPU. Unfortunately they won't give you the proper information on what they did nor will u able to find it. There are some apps which tell u what system and software it uses but that's about it
All that I can tell you is RF stands for Radio Frequency. Apparently your cellular radio was tuned a bit off from whatever frequency(ies) your carrier uses. I wonder how they calibrate this.
Their statement "Adjusted battery level to optimize power usage" makes no sense to me. It's almost an oxymoron! But then, when signal level or reception of signal is poor, firmware detects this and gives the hardware an extra kick of battery juice. So maybe that's what they adjusted?
I'm really just guessing about RF calibration and battery adjustment. Hopefully somebody more knowledgeable will shed better light, especially regarding your questions about processor speed
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I also would like to know what they did with 'improving radio frequency'. Got the same problem as you, and would like to check if it's possible to manually fix the radio/frequency-problem, cause the guys from the repairshop didn't fix anything for me..
Otherwise: is there an app that notifies me when network connection is lost ?
I found this one : (updated url) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cnigrini.networkmonitor that works well..i now see immediately when my phone loses network connection.
However, now i still have to manually reset it by turning on/off airplane mode. Is there a way / app that does these steps automatically ?
So notifies when network dorps, and then refreshes it..
That would be one way to solve the problem i think..
Your link is to an earthquake detection app ???
I'll post more info later or tomorrow.
I updated the url. It's this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cnigrini.networkmonitor
It notifies when network is lost. However it doesn't refresh the network unfortunately.
Well, it gets worse. The phone messed up today same as before. A bit more than two weeks after the "repair". I was at home in one of the strongest signal areas. Would not receive or make calls or use mobile data. So back to the Rogers store. By the time i got there it had started working again so i could not demonstrate the problem. Also used a lot of battery power today, about 40% with light usage compared to 15% or less per day for the past two weeks.
What the counter guy at the Rogers store said is that there is nothing wrong with the phone, that all cell phones do this, and that i should adjust my expectations.
Here's another ConnectionChecker app. This one attempts to reconnect ...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.jeremychase.ConnectionChecker
Anyone have seen another app for this that they like?
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Well, it gets worse. The phone messed up today same as before. A bit more than two weeks after the "repair". I was at home in one of the strongest signal areas. Would not receive or make calls or use mobile data. So back to the Rogers store. By the time i got there it had started working again so i could not demonstrate the problem. Also used a lot of battery power today, about 40% with light usage compared to 15% or less per day for the past two weeks.
What the counter guy at the Rogers store said is that there is nothing wrong with the phone, that all cell phones do this, and that i should adjust my expectations.
Here's another ConnectionChecker app. This one attempts to reconnect ...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.jeremychase.ConnectionChecker
Anyone have seen another app for this that they like?
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Hey Mdawdy, thanks for posting that one, when reading the descripting it seems like this one is doing both things: checking when connection is down, and when it is, puts the phone on/off airplane mode so that it reconnects again.
I will be testing this one for this time now..
It's probably true that all cell phones lose connection some times, for example when being in a place where connection is very low, but the problem with this Galaxy s4 mini is that it doesn't reconnect again when in an area where signal should be good...
Probably some software thing i think..
I'm still at 4.2.2 by the way.
Edit: found out that with a non-rooted device with android 4.2 or above, it's not possible for an app to toggle airplane mode on/off. So there are probably no (non-root) apps existing that will do this .
However a forum member made a tool that does this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/app-jelly-bean-4-x-airplane-mode-helper-t2385625
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I updated the url. It's this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cnigrini.networkmonitor
It notifies when network is lost. However it doesn't refresh the network unfortunately.
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I installed and tried this one. Appeared to be working altho i did not have a network drop. Then i turned on, used, then turned off Wi-Fi. From then on the App continually reported that the network was lost even when it was good. Restarting the phone did not fix it. So i uninstalled the app.
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I installed and tried this one. Appeared to be working altho i did not have a network drop. Then i turned on, used, then turned off Wi-Fi. From then on the App continually reported that the network was lost even when it was good. Restarting the phone did not fix it. So i uninstalled the app.
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For me it's also not working properly, and i bought the full version (
It's not notifing me when connection/wifi drops.. but I only see it when opening the app.
Also, like i said, i don't think there's an app that toggle's airplane mode on/off when gsm-connection is lost, because it's not possible with a non-rooted android phone that runs android 4.2 or above..
Very disapointing..