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Anyone with a HTC P3300 yet?

Does the wifi work?
Do you like the mouse button?
Does it take 2 GB mini SD cards?
How many hours can you use TomTom on one battery load? (wifi, Bluetooth, GSM, FM Radio, enabled)
(That's 5 receivers!)
T-mobile germany has a P3300 (T-Mobile MDA compact III) on the website.
A dutch guy maggoo has a preproduction? T-Mobile compact III, only he is on Holiday now...
His wifi is not working BTW...
Offcourse BengalBoy (King of gadgets) has a preproduction? P3300 since august 2006.

Apparently, Bengalboy has posted his on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Artemis-P33...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Nice Phone and a ugly Woman

LOL,
i wish i would own such a sweet device for changing it with my Trion or Wizard. The only thing i really appreciate is the FM receiver. Everything else i wouldnt exchange with my Trion. Due the fact that this device is not that perfomant like other PDAs
But why not having a small device in the pocket? Fits perfectly to my suit

I was thinking about the GPS.... Does the GPS work fine?? I really2 like the size

That ebay auction looks fishy to me. No recent feedback, bank transfer, no warranties etc etc....

guess it has not been release yet still, same here for my country singapore, anticipating it release along with the p3600

Hi!
I did actually test the device last Saturday. It was displayed at the Microsoft stand on a Norwegian multimedia exhibit. The device performed very well and the GPS and FM tuner worked perfectly. The head of Microsoft Windows Mobile in Norway confirmed that the mass production started October 13th, and that the device would be shipped to Europe after 15 days (October 28th).
PK

paalkr said:
Hi!
I did actually test the device last Saturday. It was displayed at the Microsoft stand on a Norwegian multimedia exhibit. The device performed very well and the GPS and FM tuner worked perfectly. The head of Microsoft Windows Mobile in Norway confirmed that the mass production started October 13th, and that the device would be shipped to Europe after 15 days (October 28th).
PK
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oct in europe so soon wow, dunno when it will b shipped to singapore or whether it would b sold in singapore under htc

Blackberry on Artemis?
Does anyone know if it will support Blackberry connections?

The Artemis Proto is available for purchase. The ebay auction was mine and not fishy.
As for the "ugly woman", I suggest getting your eyes checked immediately, or, should you be at CES in Vegas this January, come introduce yourself to me and say it to my face. Hehe... but we all know you never would..

BegalBoy - don't know if anyone else has greeted you, but it's great to have you on the forum! You're a legend! Keep up the exceptional work.
V

Thank you Vijay555 for the welcome. I visit XDA-Devs all the time. This is the "Site" for operating system development and individual work for improving the performance of the devices we all love. It has been the only place since I got my first XDAII (imate Pocket PC) back in the day to offer assistance and improvement on issues with the operating systems long before solutions are provided by the manufacter. I always have respected the "code warriors" here and the fact that you rarely see any juvenile posts,,, only tech and device related. But I couldn't resist when I saw that unusual comment about one of my girls.
Thanks to all of you for assisting the community, if I can ever be of any help providing ROMs on unreleased devices don't hesitate to ask.

BengalBoy said:
Thanks to all of you for assisting the community, if I can ever be of any help providing ROMs on unreleased devices don't hesitate to ask.
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It would be nice if you could dump the roms on your unreleased devices and post them here, if you need technical assistance just ask
just out of curiosity, where do u get the devices so early?? I saw that no one bid for them on ebay... but what you have to do if you want to sell them is send the ebay auction link to people at imei-check, they usually buy preproduction devices at any price to have the unlockers ready when the devices are released.

was really tempted to bid n buy the item coz its not available in singapore yet, really a neat device after seeing the video introduction on Youtube by none other than bengalboy himself, the p3600 n p3300 are really devices worth waiting for, would choose either one to replace my exisiting O2 mini aka magician which have been serving me well still...
any idea regarding the price over in your country yet?

Zomg it's BengalBoy
hey there bro nice to see you here, yeah this is probably the best gadget forum in regards to wm phones, hope to see ya around more often you could contribute greatly to the community,
p.s. nice site you have

Be happy to dump the ROM for you guys, got some instructions??? Its prototype, but, maybe you guys can help me.... I have this proto rom as well as a new ROM with Tom Tom on board.. Which do you want? Would be nice if someone could help me CID unlock my device to install the new ROM on.. Also have the Trinity if you want that ROM as well...

pardon my newbie-ness but just whats the purpose of dumping the ROM here?

BegalBoy, this is a good description of how to dump roms the "hard way", so to speak. There are other easier tools, but they've given mixed result on the Treo, so this method is generally sound.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom&action=BackLinks
lmf_slacker: we enjoy taking roms apart to see what's been changed, updated, perhaps incorporate new features that haven't migrated into our roms yet. Not all operators are diligent in updating "obsolete" devices, but we like to keep them alive!
V

i can see from the link http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...on=Back Links that u can change the language of the device if u change the ROM, is that all u change?

Meeting with HTC

Hi all
i'm an engineer doing R&D for Leaf Wireless in South Africa. We supply wireless solutions and HTC phones to Africa.
i'm going to Taiwan to meet and recieve training from the HTC engineers from monday the 12th. And since i've received so much help from XDA developers in the past i thought i'd offer.
if there are any customisation questions you have or HTC issues that are proving difficult to solve post them here. i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
cheers,
Greg

hmm this thread sounds like it could take off.
i dont think you know what you got yourself into supaspud. i know lots of people are going to have questions and suggestions for htc.
i for one would like to see them implement a wheel mouse not unlike the one in the danger sidekick 3. that would make wm experience 100 times better.
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
when i think of more questions or suggestions ill reply again

?Why don't they make a full size (3.5" or whatever) screen in a cdma with more memory. Hell it doesn't even have to be vga. I use mine as a pda, if I wanted a tiny screen, I'd just get a damn phone.

hiimcliff said:
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
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Save yourself the bother. It would be up to the telco's to decide on releasing an official update and they would then pay HTC to build the rom. Expect that to happen about the same time as the telco's decide to donate all their profits to third world charities.

It's not a telco thing. If you are refering to the companies who re-brand the HTC machines (most of whom are not telcos) the decision will be based mostly on whether HTC will actually supply the ROM and at what cost if any. They would have a fairly good idea about what they are going to do for some machines as they own one such company that retails their machines (Dopod). Find out about possibility of Artemis crossbow ROM if you can

Linux
It would be interesting to get their opinion on Linux on the HTC platform, and whether they would consider contributing to the development of a well rounded Linux based phone environment.

Yes, their opinion on linux would be good to know
Ask if they have any future plans to support it officially.

Ask them what (apart from soldering the chips on and editing the rom file for memory alocation) needs to be done to make 128mb of ram work on UNIVERSAL (it origionally had it, so the motherboard supports it and it can work

Hello Leaf Wireless
Well, well Greg, I thought that Leaf would not come out of the closet.
I have been the source of information till now, but now please take the stage.
A few months back I introduced a few of your staff to the XDA site.
I am now and then fed tit bits of information which I share on the forum. The ROM 1.35 update is a good example.
There are some clever guys here and we can all all learn together.
The problems I raised with Renier was:
1. Storage card getting lost in Media Player
2. Windows 5 is full of unresloved problems, with the BT stack poor.
3. Battery life on 3G is shocking. I have upgraded to 1.27 to see if things improve.
4. I have an Email from Dan Mackie @HTC Eupope stating that an Major ROM upgrade would be released at the end of January 2007, "to resolve all known issues on the TyTN". Nothing has happened yet!
The issue with the storage card was a known issue and I was informed at the end of September that it would be sorted with the next upgrade.
It hasn't happened yet but I have noticed that the TyTN's that you have received do not have this problem.
Please feel free to contact me should you wish.
Enjoy the trip and let me have a copy of the new ROM before you leave.
Regards
A wish list would be for the keyboard have some kind of a lock to prevent it opening when retrieving from the pouch. I find that I often drop call on closing the keyboard.
The magnets in the pouch are also troublesome and cause screen rotation and also dropped calls at times when rotating back.

GPS in the Hermes
What component of software (hardware??) is missing in the Tytn compared to the Trinity to make the GPS work.
Thanks
Francisco
PS. My first post, and I would like to thanks all the excellent XDA-developers community for this great forum.

@SupaSpud: Tell them to produce a Hermes with VGA screen and GPS and 256Mb ROM, RAM....
Thanks.

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i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
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Several people have already asked this question:
- How can we install 128Mb RAM on Universal?
HTC never replied.

sheesh...
wow... looks like I opened up pandora's box. i'm making a list of all the queries and i'll ask them on monday. keep em coming...
ps: i'll find out bout the rom now.

Hey SSpud - gr8 offer !
1. I''d like you to ask why they dont set the default Bluetooth (a2dp) to Stereo (and the bit rate / max bit rate to 40+) ... and generally fix stereo BT.
2. How do they acvtually work with customers (eg BT in the UK) .... I get the inpression they are extremely slow and unresponsive.
2. Camera - if even cheap sony ericons can have autofocus and macro settings why cant HTC ?
3. Stereo Jacks (3.5 or 2.5mm)
4. Direct access to microSD card
5. When will they update their FAQ's and trouble shooting guides beyond the patronising " check that it is turned on type " answers.
Thanks for this oportunity !!
(I'm especially intersted efor Artemis/ XDA orbit)

Hello 'Spud,
Apart from sorting/mentioning the listed problems here - especially the poor bluetooth stack IMO - please do bump the question regarding their future GPS roadmap for TyTN/Hermes series of phones.
Now that will make a true convergence of technologies.
Kind regards,

Mine is a small and trivial request... could they please please please fix the battery meter on the hermes... the [email protected] +/- 10% drives me nuts... wish we could get the +/- 1% like the other devices.

Hello Greg
SupaSpud said:
Hi all
i'm an engineer doing R&D for Leaf Wireless in South Africa. We supply wireless solutions and HTC phones to Africa.
i'm going to Taiwan to meet and recieve training from the HTC engineers from monday the 12th. And since i've received so much help from XDA developers in the past i thought i'd offer.
if there are any customisation questions you have or HTC issues that are proving difficult to solve post them here. i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
cheers,
Greg
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Tell the guys at HTC to watch the XDA-Developers site to find out what's wrong with their phones and what features are needed to turn them into great devices - remember the IPhone is comming!
Basil

Tell them not to save cents in devices that cost hundred of dollars. For instance they use cheap and weak cpus like samsung (which has only ARMv4T) ot OMAP with it's low clock frequencies. Or they save memory and instead of using 128MB or more RAM! RAM is cheap! I'd like to see smaller touchscreen displays with VGA resolution! Look at the size and resolution of some nokias: E60 or E70. I'd like to see hermes (device with foldable keyboard) with gps, 624MHz intel cpu, 128MB RAM and 2.2 inch touchscreen in the near future!
YES! Tell them about this forum! Tell them not to do stupid things in locking their devices - this simply reduces their markets!
And tell them that maybe it is about time to see their x86 UMPC! Look at the sony vaio UX180P or UX280P!

Hi
hiimcliff said:
i for one would like to see them implement a wheel mouse not unlike the one in the danger sidekick 3. that would make wm experience 100 times better.
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
when i think of more questions or suggestions ill reply again
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I'm not exactly sure of what you mean about the wheel mouse. You mean like the one the Artemis has?
As for crossbow going onto the Wizard... i don't think that'll happen. But i'll double check.

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cougargt said:
?Why don't they make a full size (3.5" or whatever) screen in a cdma with more memory. Hell it doesn't even have to be vga. I use mine as a pda, if I wanted a tiny screen, I'd just get a damn phone.
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I can't say too much, but if the rumour I heard is true, you might get something like that in the second half of this year. *wink-wink, nudge-nudge*

Can you make a mini-forum for Dell Axim users?

I know the XDA-Developers mission statement is "This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a secretive firm called HTC in Taiwan.", but our non-phone Dell Axim x50's and x51's were also manufactured by HTC (I believe it was codenamed the HTC Colorado). Due to the new wm6 ROMs being built for our units by developers here, and the lack of support by DELL and other sites, many of us are coming here. It would be great to have a place to discuss the cool apps being created by the "XDA developers" that work, or dont work, on non-phone HTC devices and share tips and tweaks to get them working best on our devices.
I would suggest a category under "Other HTC manufactured phones" called "HTC manufactured PDA's" or "HTC manufactured non-phones", then we could list the different devices under their code names (Colorado = Dell Axim x50 series, Galaxy = Qtek/Imate , etc) or group them all together as a start to see how much traffic they get. (That is if you can find it in your heart to include us non-phone HTC device users )

I will second that.

me too.
Those threads only apply to particular HTC-built models, and are of no interest for those who doesnt own an HTC Axim.
Pls lets make a sub forum for Axims and move there those threads. both Axim owners and non owners would benefit.

Updated: check for updates

vlodeck said:
Due to the fact the Dell Axim is not an HTC device, there will be no forum or mini-forum for this PDA. Thank you.
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Actually, like I said in the first post, the Dell Axim v50 and x51 series was manufactured by HTC, and sold by Dell. It may not be an HTC phone, but it is an HTC device.
Look at this old review of the x50v when it came out.
The key part is:
While HP went to a blockier industrial form factor, Dell worked with HTC to come up with a slim, light unit with rounded features similar to the HP iPAQ 4150. ...The X50 is rock solid, and I couldn't get the PDAs to twist or creak. I haven't seen a device this solidly built in quite some time--except for my new MDA III, which I am also reviewing and that was also built by HTC.
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Also this Blog entry "Axing el Axim Or Why Dell’s PocketPC had to go "
Lets begin our journey with a visit to the Axim’s source - HTC. The Dell Axim essentially is a design by HTC(which, according to some industry insiders was rejected by HP); Dell just stamps its brand logo onto it and manages the distribution. So, HTC produces and Dell makes the big margins… . This combination stands behind many PocketPC smartphones(with a carrier instead of Dell) for sale in Austria and has worked well so far…
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You would be correct in saying it is not an XDA, but it is an HTC. Because the Dell Axim is mostly compatable with the stuff being discussed here (sans the phone stuff), you are probably getting increased traffic from us Dell users. But if it is too 'off topic' to create a common area for us, I guess we will be forced to hang out in the General forum. I can live with that (this is still a great site for advanced users).

Ok, my bad. Although I have to admit that HTC was a vital part of the axim manufacturing I have to say I'm not quite convinced that such forum should be created.
I'll pass this matter to the moderator forum though. Take a deep breath and hold on.

Ok. We have reached the verdict. There simply won't be any dell specific forum on xda-developers. Thanks for your attention.

I just think that there should be a forum for the axim because this site has become and is mostly about HTC manufactured devices and not all of the devices were offered to the public with the HTC branding, we had to purchase them with other companies that applied their logos and software. This site, i admit that it was created for pda-phones but this site has also grown and we should realize that most of the people here all use HTC devices. I do understand why not to add a thread for the Axim but we should add at least a "PPC-only" or "Other HTC Manufactured Devices" thread so that the general forums would be freed up for pda-phone topics.
I my self just bought a Axim but have a better trust in this site then others because this site was the only one that did not flame me when i was a noob (now it does flame noobs but thats because noobs don't read these days) and helped me in giving me information.
I say add a thread for the HTC Axim but if not add one for general pda's but that were manufactured by HTC, because in the future we will have a large community of Axim users and the posts will be mixed with other topics. Lets keep it organized before we get over whelm with trying to organize the forums.
Thanks, Adolfo N.
PS: I know about your verdict about not adding the thread but just wanted to say this and maybe change your mind. Thanks Again.

LOL Oh well, maybe theres an abandoned section (where no recent posts have been made) here we can use and talk there.
Everyone involved with X5#v would just have to mark in their sigs as to where we are now. :/
It might not be an Axim sub forum but atleast we'd have some order to the vast thread piles that are soon to come.
LOL reason being we can't even hold these talks at "Axim"site , sad really...

vlodeck said:
Ok. We have reached the verdict. There simply won't be any dell specific forum on xda-developers. Thanks for your attention.
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I wont question "the verdict" as this is their site to moderate as they please. It was worth a shot. (At least they are allowing the Axim threads and not banning them altogether). I still can track my own list of interesting threads by subscribing to them. It just makes it difficult for quickly seeing new threads among the others in the general forum. I suggest posters of Dell specific threads should all place 'DELL AXIM' and the model number in the beginning of the thread topic so they can be found with a simple search.
The sad thing is that HTC makes great PDAs as well as Phones. Its not just that Dell abandoned the Axim line, but the industry (and the forums) are abandoning the PDA-only format altogether. (Even Aximsite has moved more toward the all inclusive MobilitySite by merging them). My request was not just for a DELL specific forum, but for an HTC PDA-only specific area where the Dell Axim would be just a part.
But as vlodeck said, "There simply won't be any Dell specific forum on xda-developers." End of story.

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I wont question "the verdict" as this is their site to moderate as they please. It was worth a shot.
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My request was not just for a DELL specific forum, but for an HTC PDA-only specific area where the Dell Axim would be just a part.
But as vlodeck said, "There simply won't be any Dell specific forum on xda-developers." End of story.
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May be the "court of appeal" gives a second thought about it.
Forum thus becaming tidier for the benefit of both owners and non owners of PDA non phone edition.

having more names gives it more exposure so maybe its agood thing
Not about the money, but you are in a room full of wood chucks and politicians dell may have never kicked in to one these countries or its personal cause things change quick and thats for sure in hear. But until you can get a post a day maybe just use the main board i mean i ask for **** and its right place. XDA is what this is and u got to respect that but i guarantee its personal opinion which to me is good for not selling but bad cause sometimes things when you use emotion rather than logic!
I would appreciate that you might get what u need here stay long enough you'll get to an all dell place for sure just don't say anything it very sensitive here. I didn't realize what continent i was on.

I'd like to see a Blackjack II forum

Good afternoon. I've been a big fan of XDA-Developers since getting a Cingular 8525 and wanted to upgrade the phone with the latest skins and software. The forums are amazing, and I highly recommend them to everyone.
However, the Smartphones forums are a bit lacking. And after my 8525 died over Christmas, at just a year and 4 months old... I decided to go with a Smartphone for it's replacement instead of another 8525. Which means I now need help with GPS's for Smartphones, configuration, etc.
Would LOVE to see a Blackjack II forum added to the site. Best wishes!!!

Not manufactured by HTC = no1 gives a damn about it here.

I have to agree that it would be awesome to have and XDA-like forum for other non-HTC WinMo phones. I am sure there is a fair amount of interest in this too. It would be great if some founding members could start a sister site for phones by Motorola, Samsung, i-Mate, and others.
I know it would be a major undertaking but the WM community would love it.
Does anyone know of a site like XDA that already exist for other manufacturers?

I think it would be a great thread to have!!
This community is great and there are many helpful people on this board! It would be nice to have a spot for the blackjack II as so many fixes and apps are OS wide not just device specific!
And a note to capncucci, Lose the attitude, no one needs it. I for one would love a board as I passed up a Tilt to get the BJ II. And am very happy with my decision! So yes, there are others who "give a damn"

I just sold my Tytn and bought a BJII so I'm in.

Me too. I have searched all over for BJ II related threads and Info. MoDaCo has been great in this respect but it's not as in depth as I would like it. A dedicated hack and resolution thread would be ideal...
The GPS is crying out for a look see under the hood...it only works with minimal apps and needs a good serve of reverse engineering....But that's not all.
Hopefully it will take off. I have moved away from HTC products due to some reliability issues and ease of use...they still rock but aren't the be all and end all of phones. I moved from an AT&T 8525 to the BJII for the size, weight, and dedicated numeric keypad....

agreed. BJII forum would be cool.

spring777 said:
agreed. BJII forum would be cool.
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but it's never going to happen, sorry.

You could try over at ppcgeeks.com. They already have a virtually unused Blackjack forum. It seems the knowledgebase there is mainly focused towards the HTC CDMA PPC phones (Apache and Titan).
I wish there was a BJ forum here too, this seems to be where all the people with technical knowledge hang out. I would like to port the BJII ROM into the old BJ.

i agree a bj2 forum here would be great. I understand that this is a HTC site but the blackjack 2 has alot of oppurtunity.

I found this forum yesterday:
http://www.blackjackusers.com/
I tried to join, but never received the activation email. It's mainly about the original BJ, but judging by the domain name, I'm guessing they'd be more than happy to open it up to BJ2 users. It's the only site I've found so far that even mentions (and offers links to) cooked ROMs for the original BJ so that's a good sign.

hey BJII users, can someone upload their SD card drivers please? us i760 users are having SDHC card issues and want to try yours out. We need
sdbus.dll
sdmemory.dll
they are located in the windows directory.
Thanks for any help you can provide!

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hey BJII users, can someone upload their SD card drivers please? us i760 users are having SDHC card issues and want to try yours out. We need
sdbus.dll
sdmemory.dll
they are located in the windows directory.
Thanks for any help you can provide!
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ill do my best
er, this is old thread, do u still need these?

New Forums on XDA?

Hey Everyone,
As mentioned in my earlier post (please read if you have not yet already), we are considering adding non-HTC forums to the site, and are curious to hear which ones should be first. We're considering devices such as the Motorola Droid/CLIQ, plus the Samsung Omnia II and/or Acer neoTouch. What are your thoughts? We're listening!
P.S. The below excerpt is taken from my first post, and should help answer some questions.
svetius; said:
Finally-- and hopefully this doesn't cause a mass uproar-- we are considering the idea of selectively adding non-HTC device forums (focused on Windows Mobile and Android devices). Every day we get requests from users for this, and there's really no good reason why we cannot oblige them. Already the discussion is happening in the general forums. That said, we will only add new forums if: 1. We are confident added traffic won't cause site speed to suffer; 2. We can recruit quality moderators; and 3. The content and discussion is of high quality. The only way to know these things for sure is to try it out. So, within the next 14 days we are going to add two or three non-HTC forums. The delay is to ensure the site continues to operate at a reasonable speed and so we can figure out where to put the new forums (the forum homepage is already absurdly long and cluttered). We are open to suggestions as to deserving devices for our first non-HTC forums, so give us your ideas in this thread.
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MOD EDIT - The following devices are due to be added Thursday morning (CET time):
Acer neoTouch F1 S200
Acer Liquid A1 S100
Samsung Omnia II
Toshiba TG01
There may be a slight delay in adding these so no more request for the above devices

HP iPAQ HX4700
HP iPAQ HX4700, even though it is a HTC made device, would love to have a forum for it, willing to moderate as i have plenty of spare time
Much Thanks
Badwolve1
PS, YES!!! Second Post on both threads

Long overdue!
At last !
This is a very nice forum, resourceful , frequented by the "developers" yet user/noob friendly.
People like me were / are dismayed when requests-questions for non HTC devices are placed in the hacking forum where you just cannot keep track of the threads.
More and more WM/android based devices are launched now and we should have a separate forum for them.
Maybe we can first demand a few requests for a particular device before starting a dedicated forum so that it would not fizzle out in the long run and the whole site becomes cluttered unneccessarily.

From my experience, the most requested one is: Omnia

I think the droid should make the first entry, its really popular. But thats just my opinion.

hell,whose idea was this...??
you are breaking our firs tenant which says "made by a firm called HTC"
we stood for the idea for a long time and prevented such forums to be crated and now comes some "user experience admin" who works for the "unhappy samsung motorola crowd" selling some controversial ideas
come on people,don't be ridiculous...
GREAT,just great....you could also say hello to iPhone and crappy nokias....which we fought for a long time.......great job traitor

Yes, OMNIA II and why not iPhone?

An i780 forum won't be bad too. This is the best site for i780 even if it's not (yet) officialy supported. There are several roms for it on xda and there's also an android porting for this device.
Maybe a brand forum will be great too. For example a samsung or acer or anythig else forum with some subforums like rom developemente, q&a and general discussions.

ajhvdb said:
Yes, OMNIA II and why not iPhone?
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Omnia 2 is winmo, this forum is for WINMO + ANDROID ONLY!!! iPhone can go somewhere else for the people who like it
I still want one for my HTC MADE IPAQ, its in the WIKI under HTC Roadster

but hey this is..or at least was htc forum and not winmo and android forum...so...if we are expanding towards samsung,motorola and some others,why don't we go for apple too
think about it
i mean i'm not supporting any of that but....higher force wants to try it out,so if we are opening our gates for non htcs....apple is also nonhtc...so what's the difference

Toshiba TG01
Acer S200
Omnia 1 and 2
If Xda is considering to open new foruns, lets open for new top mobiles that are/were best sellers

Thanks for the feedback thus far, it's helpful. We're indeed going to stick with just Windows Mobile and Android.

But on the other side allowing non htc mobile will mean let in any mobile. So admins, how will you then manage all this?What about server load and all the technical things it will bring along?And also will there be enough staff to monitor the behaviour of each and everyone? This is no simple question. Right now I see xda dev as a small group providing quality support and devs, what will it be then? Many bloggers refer to xda dev website, it is a turning point on the htc platform. Wont allowing other brands in kill this image?

yash08 said:
But on the other side allowing non htc mobile will mean let in any mobile. So admins, how will you then manage all this?What about server load and all the technical things it will bring along?And also will there be enough staff to monitor the behaviour of each and everyone? This is no simple question. Right now I see xda dev as a small group providing quality support and devs, what will it be then? Many bloggers refer to xda dev website, it is a turning point on the htc platform. Wont allowing other brands in kill this image?
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i talked to svetius via pm and this was almost the same thing i said to him
and for the
svetius said:
Thanks for the feedback thus far, it's helpful. We're indeed going to stick with just Windows Mobile and Android.
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what about "brew" platform which comes with new htc smart

maybe the "xda-developers.com" should be changed to "apple-haters.com" because as i see everything except apple is welcome
just to make it clear....i'm absolutely not voting for apple (although i love macs),i'm just giving you something to think about...pointing finger towards the paradox so everybody could see it

yash08 said:
But on the other side allowing non htc mobile will mean let in any mobile. So admins, how will you then manage all this?What about server load and all the technical things it will bring along?And also will there be enough staff to monitor the behaviour of each and everyone? This is no simple question. Right now I see xda dev as a small group providing quality support and devs, what will it be then? Many bloggers refer to xda dev website, it is a turning point on the htc platform. Wont allowing other brands in kill this image?
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As mentioned in my first post earlier today...
We will only add new forums if: 1. We are confident added traffic won't cause site speed to suffer; 2. We can recruit quality moderators; and 3. The content and discussion is of high quality. The only way to know these things for sure is to try it out. So, within the next 14 days we are going to add two or three non-HTC forums. The delay is to ensure the site continues to operate at a reasonable speed and so we can figure out where to put the new forums (the forum homepage is already absurdly long and cluttered). We are open to suggestions as to deserving devices for our first non-HTC forums, so give us your ideas in this thread.
I hope this helps.

I say expand to the iPhone field....wouldn't hurt to add it to the forums....we can say we hate it and that it suxs...whatever. XDA harbors people that want to push their phone's limits. I've been a follower of XDA for a while now, even when I had my iPhone, because the amount of talent in these forums are awesome. I say open the flood gates and bring in iPhone OS to the table. Droid and the new Dell Android would be great as well. My 2 cents

I kind of want to see a forum for the HTC Smart, running that Brew OS and a forum for the Android SE Xperia X10 and WM X2.

farukb said:
but hey this is..or at least was htc forum and not winmo and android forum
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Official or not, this site has ALWAYS been a winmo forum. Given that HTC's devices mostly ran winmo, that's pretty much unavoidable - unless you think that all discussion/development of software that runs on non-HTC winmo devices should be banned, anyway. And the same goes for Android, now that it comprises ~half of HTC's product lineup - unless you think that half of HTC's current phones should be banned from an 'HTC forum'.

YES to new forums
I've been following XDA-Devs for quite some time now (over a year and a half, to be exact) ever since I gleefully bought my AT&T Tilt, and then was frustrated with it within a week. Prior to that, I have owned & happily modded several PPC's. I lurked on these forums for over a year before joining and asking anything. Almost every question I had was answered by patiently searching. So Junior Member, yes. Noob...not quite.
That being said, I am very heavily leaning towards replacing my battle-scarred Tilt with a Samsung Omnia II instead of a TP2 variant. Lots of pros, very few cons, at least for the things I use my device for the most. One of the BIGGEST cons, however, would be that I would lose the guidance, support, knowledge and hard-earned wisdom of the people that post here by straying from HTC.
And so I hesitate.
I've likely read posts into the multiple thousands here, and despite the device or app, or even OS under discussion, one theme runs through it all:
We love messing with our phones.
Better, stronger, faster, smarter, louder, brighter, more fun ..... ad infinitum.
So, for the sake of that common goal, I say add new forums. Break them down by manufacturer. Even iPhones. All those people that bought one, only to discover the limitations of their expensive "cool" new phone? Let's help those poor saps too, ok?
YES to new forums!!