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[NEW] Kaiser Style 3G Dialer v2.00

NEW v2.00
What is being skin and what else being done:
1. Dialer Portrait and Landscape Complete
2. Smartdialling Complete
3. Video Dialer Complete
4. Speed Dial and Call History Complete
5. All skin images moves to \Dialers instead of \Windows
6. Almost all images taken from the original Kaiser Dialer
7. BACKUP your original phone skin registry first(HKLM/Security/Phone/Skin)
8. Layout change to the exact Kaiser Dialer Layout(NEW v2.00)
9. Smart Dialing upgraded to v2.5.27647(NEW v2.00)
10. Fix the ugly 3G icon that came from Dopod.(NEW v2.00)
11. Enable display of Battery in percent in the title bar. You will have to enable battery status display first.(NEW v2.00)
12. Zoom, scroll up and down in the smartdialing REMOVED. To scroll: DRAG with your finger. To Zoom: Use Keyboard with automatically zoom to the max.(Changes v2.00)
13. Speed Dial and Call History removed. You can access SpeedDial using the DOWN Dpad and Call History using UP dpad. Or using the 360 degree wheel UP and DOWN.
IMPORTANT!!!! PLEASE READ
What you CAN do:
1. Use the skin if you like it
2. Cook into your ROM with my permision(PM me first, you will need instruction on how to modify the dll so that all the graphics can be install in Windows. All graphics must be intact. No part of them can be changed.)
What you CANNOT do:
1. Redistribute the skin, modified or not with my signature file(Readme.txt) removed.
2. Modify any part of the skin and redistrbuted under your name.
3. Take all or part of the images that dont belongs to the original Kaiser for your skin.
Tested working with 838Pro running original Dopod WM6. If your dialer has been change or your device do not use the standard HTC dialer,I dont have any idea it will work. Oh..and I will not attempt to make it work for other Hermes not running official WM6 from Dopod. You can try it by backup your phone registry first, if it work, GREAT!. If it dontsimply uninstall it and restore your registry. As always, use it at your own Risk!
More screenshots and CABs see Post #2 and #3
Enjoy
Schen

Some more screen shots
Somemore screen shots

The CAB
Here is the CAB. Remember to backup your phone Skin Registry first before installing.
You can uninstall if you dont like it. Then restore the original phone skin registry and you are set.
Other stuff from schen
HTC Home v2.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323495
Kaiser CommManager based on Tao 10 button modified o enable 3G Only and GSM Only Switch. CAB below.
Update 21 August 2007
V2.0 Uploaded. See the README file or First post. INSTALL sdkcert.cab FIRST if you have not done so.
If you are using v1.XX UNINSTALL first.
v1.XX DELETED
HTCHome v1.5 DELETED. New version already available.
Update 23 August 2007
Added gradient look to the dial pad background. Initially it is rather flat looking.
Update 1 simply replace the two BG and set the text color to match the background.
Update 2 27 August 2007
Redrawn the Battery Status icons for more readable percent number and smaller and slimmer battery image.....change the 3G icons...and redid a couple of images...that will be all.
Update 3 31 August 2007
Disable the default dialer text, use the original gradient look Kaiser BG
Update 4 1 Sept 2007
Update 1,2 and 3 deleted. Instead I just combine all update into one accumulative update. The update include update 1,2,3 plus White Status Icons instead of black, and the most important Kaiser Style Smart Dialer
Update 5 3 Sept 2007
BONUS: 7Colored Background.
Update 6 29 Sep 2007
have some spare time today so I just combine everything into one single cab for installation. All the dlls and exes were also resiged with my own certificate. Grab the Dialer Cab and Colored BG Cab here:
removed! See below.
Update 7 1 October 2007
Complete package including OEM is uploaded.
http://rapidshare.com/files/5943194...ro.Official.WM6.v2.00.FINAL-Schen.cab.zip.zip
For 10 Button CommManager with 3G Only and GPRS Only switch, get it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/5903093...3GOnly.Switch.For.Other.Devices-Schen.CAB.zip

schen said:
Here is the CAB. Remember to backup your phone Skin Registry first before installing.
You can uninstall if you dont like it. Then restore the original phone skin registry and you are set.
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attach missing...
EDIT: it's there now...

schen said:
Here is the CAB. Remember to backup your phone Skin Registry first before installing.
You can uninstall if you dont like it. Then restore the original phone skin registry and you are set.
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hi Schen,
I can't install your cab. It says: The installation file is not intended for this device. I have a TyTn with Sleuth ROM 3.2

schen said:
Here is the CAB. Remember to backup your phone Skin Registry first before installing.
You can uninstall if you dont like it. Then restore the original phone skin registry and you are set.
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hi Schen,
I can't install your cab. It says: The installation file is not intended for this device. I have a TyTn with dopod official

not work
Same for Schap's rom 3.54.

U can't do this!
Where is the caaaaaaab??? PANIC MODE On

Hi,you can download similar in this thread

This work fine,Thanks Marcdu81

it works very well

Nice Job DUDE & Thanks For Sharing this....

This work fine,Thanks Marcdu81

Awesome!! With Schap's excellent WM6 ROM and these add-ons my TyTN rocks!

By studying your cab one would believe to see a pale copy of the dialer of Mun_rus, you just redraw the buttons, and now you would like a copyright of tone dialer , studies a little my dialer and you will see what to create wants to say.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321605

works great, many thanks
(i dowloaded and unzipped the file from the SECOND post)

All 3 cab's works fine on a old Black 2.0.
Thanks!

duronmarcel said:
By studying your cab one would believe to see a pale copy of the dialer of Mun_rus, you just redraw the buttons, and now you would like a copyright of tone dialer , studies a little my dialer and you will see what to create wants to say.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321605
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dude.....feeling some competitions huh...I dont have your cab or mUn ROM so I cannot compare to yours and mUn. Now before you start saying something stupid why dont you show me if there is an EXACT same file from my images and those of yours and mun? I would be surprise if you can find ONE(ofcourse except those graphics that we can use from kaiser without any further tweaking)
If you are talking about resemblance...all the graphics are all ported from the original Kaiser it should look a like. The original Kaiser dialer DONT belongs to ANYBODY.
I would expect you to came back here with your prove OK? JUST ONE GRAPHIC. If not then that said it all.
p.s. I do notice you "promote" your dialer twice here today right after I release mine.

schen said:
dude.....feeling some competitions huh...I dont have your cab or mUn ROM so I cannot compare to yours and mUn. Now before you start saying something stupid why dont you show me if there is an EXACT same file from my images and those of yours and mun? I would be surprise if you can find ONE(ofcourse except those graphics that we can use from kaiser without any further tweaking)
If you are talking about resemblance...all the graphics are all ported from the original Kaiser it should look a like. The original Kaiser dialer DONT belongs to ANYBODY.
I would expect you to came back here with your prove OK? JUST ONE GRAPHIC. If not then that said it all.
p.s. I do notice you "promote" your dialer twice here today right after I release mine.
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play nice guys bc both of u have good and bad parts in ur dailers. i have both and both have been extracted from cabs and compared. schen urs has a good layout on the video calling. duron is more with the original kaiser theme if u look at that smart dialing and blue gradient. get ur dialers and put them together and make one.

Pawel062 said:
play nice guys bc both of u have good and bad parts in ur dailers. i have both and both have been extracted from cabs and compared. schen urs has a good layout on the video calling. duron is more with the original kaiser theme if u look at that smart dialing and blue gradient. get ur dialers and put them together and make one.
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duron is just a bit paranoid about this whole thing thinking that photoshop works is his biggest talent that none can do....
BTW I did think about designing to look exacly the same as Kaiser but it did not work. The hermes dialer has different layout. The Video Progress button screen for example will overlap. We might think that the "right" part of the main dialer is "cool" being covered with " dummy grey button", but that part of the screen has its own purpose for Hermes(picture display and Long Names and Numbers also will extend to the far right). It is not supposed to be covered.
So duron, what are you going to say....! I dont need your dialer...there are many flaw if I may say it frankly.

How to get HTC's official WM6 but *without* the HTC green theme

Hi folks,
My device is off being repaired to cure the screen alignment issue but while I am waiting for it to return I was wondering if there was a way to stop the HTC green theme being applied to the device after I do a hard reset?
I would like just the plain WM6 default theme.
I have read about this thing called ExtROM, which is where the operator install files are hidden? So this is where the evil green theme lives until it gets installed?
Can anyone tell me if this is possible?
FYI I have a generic HTC, sim-unlocked TyTN.
Thanks,
gambcl

Um well you can do a search on google and find millions of PPC themes the green theme is just the default one set by the Preconfig.txt WM6 also comes installed with a blue theme and a red theme BTW they are called .tsk files

Umm, yes I know about .tsk files, but they do not get rid of the HTC green skin on the dialer, pin screen, etc. do they?
I was thinking the cleanest solution was to just stop the HTC green from ever being applied in the first place by maybe deleting the relevant install files from the ExtRom and then doing a hard reset.
Does anyone know if this is possible? I've never touched the ExtRom before, I know I have to unlock it and I can read about that, but what exactly would I do after I have unlocked it?
Thanks,
gambcl.

gambcl said:
Umm, yes I know about .tsk files, but they do not get rid of the HTC green skin on the dialer, pin screen, etc. do they?
I was thinking the cleanest solution was to just stop the HTC green from ever being applied in the first place by maybe deleting the relevant install files from the ExtRom and then doing a hard reset.
Does anyone know if this is possible? I've never touched the ExtRom before, I know I have to unlock it and I can read about that, but what exactly would I do after I have unlocked it?
Thanks,
gambcl.
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For the screen commmanager try disable this file in extended: Green_Commger.CAB.
For the dialer take a look at ZombieNexus dialpad. I use one 3G dialer to subst the green one in HTC.
For the pin pad, try one of the CABs in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321733 Youll have a black touch pinpad after install one of them, and of course the battery icon with detailed info
Hopes this helps.

This is exactly what I would like to know too. How to disable the green theme to load after hard reset.
I like the base blue theme, but that green theme changes the dialers etc.
Don't want other themes to replace them. Just to disable it not to load after hardreset.
I see that it loads a xml file that was named based on the theme, I just don't remember it atm. maybe I'll just have to fiddle with the extrom.
If anyone already has a working solution, please post it

gvoima said:
This is exactly what I would like to know too. How to disable the green theme to load after hard reset.
I like the base blue theme, but that green theme changes the dialers etc.
Don't want other themes to replace them. Just to disable it not to load after hardreset.
I see that it loads a xml file that was named based on the theme, I just don't remember it atm. maybe I'll just have to fiddle with the extrom.
If anyone already has a working solution, please post it
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Sorry, but the gree colors in pinpad is caused by a DLL in the ROM, not by some CAB installed after the HR. So you can only chage this changing this DLL.
About the DialPad, well, seemed as before, but with a lot of graphics files. You need a theme to change the green color and bottons (graphics files). Can't disable after HR. Only you can disable the default skin in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin making Enabled parameter to "0"
but you loos the 3G dial and SmartDialing. If you have 0 by default in this parameter, then you can't do more.
The only one i could disable is Green Commanager in the extended.
The other way to customize all this is, of course, cooking your own ROM
Regards.

HTC Comm Manager

Hi there
Running Meschles Vanilla 2.0 (EXCELLENT)- just wondering if anyone out there knows of a way to change the colours in the HTC Comm Manager? Not just the black background, but also the blue and the red colours. Would like to change it more to fit into the rest of my theme.
Incidentally- if I LOVE the colours in the original Microsoft Guava theme- how could I fine out the "colour codes" (for want of a better term) to then apply to a re-coloured comm manager.
Would like to make it eg black on (guava) red!
Thanks all......

Any ideas anyone......?
Please!!...

HTC Home Plugin Customizer v0.8b
Hi
this will let you change the look of the device tho not sure about the comm manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319308&highlight=htc+home+manager

MGTF said:
this will let you change the look of the device tho not sure about the comm manager
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afaik does it only change htc-home-related things...to change comm-manager icons you'll have to edit every single file.
correct me if i'm wrong with that, but i can't imagine another way to do this.
maybe you can download a comm-manager-cab (this one ? - it's the ten-button comm-manager from kaiser), extract all files and then you can try do change the pictures...
btw: there are about 90 pictures included.....happy editing

petervbeck said:
afaik does it only change htc-home-related things...to change comm-manager icons you'll have to edit every single file.
correct me if i'm wrong with that, but i can't imagine another way to do this.
maybe you can download a comm-manager-cab (this one ? - it's the ten-button comm-manager from kaiser), extract all files and then you can try do change the pictures...
btw: there are about 90 pictures included.....happy editing
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Yea, I've downloaded a 10 button Comm manager (can't remember which one), but it was screwing up my system. Slowed everything down. It would take almost 20 seconds to open the the Windows folder. The only way I could get rid of it was to hard reset. So please backup your device some kind of way before you download it just incase. Even after uninstalling it, my device was still slow.

The same problem with other app
shawndh said:
Yea, I've downloaded a 10 button Comm manager (can't remember which one), but it was screwing up my system. Slowed everything down. It would take almost 20 seconds to open the the Windows folder. The only way I could get rid of it was to hard reset. So please backup your device some kind of way before you download it just incase. Even after uninstalling it, my device was still slow.
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Seems to be impossible what you would like to do. Since CommManager is 'burnt' onto the ROM, you can
a, overwrite it with your new coloured files - causing slowdown, or
b, leave it as is.
There is no third possibility.
And yes, after uninstalling or manually deleting the files with which you overwrote the original ones, the system still remains slow! (don't know why).
I'm struggling with a similar problem for a while. My ROM doesn't have HTC AudioManager built-in, so I installed it separately into Storage Card, to avoid slowndown. Then I installed Music plug-in for starting AudioManager directly from Today screen. And, althought the plug-in is selectable (WMP/AudioMan.), I can't use it for AudioManager because it can't find the prog.
The only solution would be a new or hacked plug-in version, capable of locating AudioManager, even if it's not in Wondows folder. If anybody knows such a version, please, warn me!
cheers

Never mind...Nice thought.
Thanks anyway guys

Rainbow-Lentil said:
Hi there
Running Meschles Vanilla 2.0 (EXCELLENT)- just wondering if anyone out there knows of a way to change the colours in the HTC Comm Manager? Not just the black background, but also the blue and the red colours. Would like to change it more to fit into the rest of my theme.
Incidentally- if I LOVE the colours in the original Microsoft Guava theme- how could I fine out the "colour codes" (for want of a better term) to then apply to a re-coloured comm manager.
Would like to make it eg black on (guava) red!
Thanks all......
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The Guava theme is my favorite as well. It looks really good the the grey icons instead of the colored ones. The B&B Comm Mgr would be perfect for this ROM but the only way to get it is to cook your own ROM. I just avoid going to the Comm Manager so I don't have to look at it much. You can change the icons and tabs on the home screen with the HTC Home Customizer software.

Weather for CHome... Take 2!

Alright. Completely redesigned from the ground up... CHome Weather 2 !
This will install two shortcuts in your Start Menu. A "Weather Update" shortcut, which you can use to update manually, as well as "Weather Options" shortcut.
Steps to take to make this work:
1) Install one of the cabs below. Pick the "Slim" version if you want thinner panels, like in the screenshots.
2) It should ask to reboot ! (turn phone off and on.. etc). If it doesn't... reboot manually!
3) Go to your Start Menu and find "Weather Options". Set your Zip / Location Code to your zip code if you're in the US or a "location code" if you're anywhere else. More info on finding your specific code is here http://developer.yahoo.com/weather/#req . Set the "Fahrenheit / Celsius" option to either "F" or "C" (without the quotes!). Specify how often you would like to autoupdate the weather information in minutes in option 3. Specify whether you would like the application to attempt to connect your default GPRS connection first, before updating. Finally you can turnoff the autoupdate feature with the last option (7).
4) Now it might be a good idea to go to Start and find "Update Weather" and run it.
5) The cab should set your homescreen to "Sliding Panel Top Bar + Weather!" automatically. If it doesn't, you need to do it manually to see the weather plugin. If you top icons disappear then you might have to use the regular "Sliding Panel + Weather!" theme.
Please let me know what bugs you find.
The first couple of thumbnails show the "Collapsed" state of the plugin, where it shows only the city and the current temp.
If you want your system font to look like the one in the thumbnails (calibri), download the .cab attached, install and reboot.
Revisions:
- Ver 1.7 More bug fixes. Hopefully this is a solid release. Options panel redesigned and touched up.
- Ver 1.6a A few bugs fixes. Removed internet connection checking routine as it obviously doesn't work for everybody. A few cosmetic changes.
- Ver 1.6 Added another homescreen theme as an option, that doesn't use the color topbar icons. Pick "Sliding Panel + Weather!" to use it. Added illi's potrait orientation .cpr file to the regular testui version cab. Added AutoUpdate on/off in the options panel (scroll down to see it). Reboot after changing that option. More bugfixes...
- Ver 1.5b. Bug fixes.
- Ver 1.5. Last update reflects time on Yahoo's servers in both layouts. More options added to options panel.
- Ver 1.04 A few updates. More options. Switch between two layouts. Bug fixes... etc
- Ver 1.03 Celsius bug squashed. Now the country code shows up after the city name for people outside the US.
- Ver 1.02 New logic in update script. Update percentage counter added. Forecast for tomorrow in the bottom line with hi and low values and hi and low values for the current day at the top, after the city name. Yahoo icon pack added, in case you prefer those.
- Ver 1.01. Added last update time as a second line under the current temp. Added dropshadow icons created by KWOODALL! Thanks for the beautiful icons! 5/11 10:52AM
As a side note, the second line display is dependant on the font used on the device, so it might not align properly on some device. Let me know when it doesn't and I'll update the script to work on your device. Or better yet, just download the Calibri font mod cab below and be happy. Thank you.
Link to Yahoo icon pack (install AFTER you install one of the cabs below, if you want the Yahoo icons): Yahoo icon pack
Please use the attached "unlock.cab" to unlock your device if you're getting permission errors trying to install my weather cabs. Thanks.

I am getting an empty variable error after running weather update.

mystix said:
I am getting an empty variable error after running weather update.
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Me too. Weather panel is not included? I don't see a weather panel and Start/Settings/Home Screen settings does not show the "Sliding Panel Media Top Bar + Weather!" homescreen.

same error here
edit. i think i figured out the problem. Mis named two files, he got them flip-flopped. Go to program files/nrg/chomeweather and locate the weather.mscr file. It needs to be renamed SlidingPanelMediatopbar.home.xml and placed in the application data/home folder.//// but b-4 doing that you need to find the SlidingPanelMediatopbar.home.xml already in the application data/home folder and put it somewhere so it doesnt get overwritten. Then after youve moved the first file,relocate the SlidingPanelMediatopbar.home.xml file you relocated and rename it Weather.mscr and place it in program files/nrg/chomeweather . then try the update
update: the vibrate thing when you update the weather is kinda funky. you can take it out of the weather.mscr if you dont like it. Just do your edit via notepad on your pc and replace it into its original directory on your phone that it came from.... also dont forget to soft reset your phone after installing this .cab

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It worked on Tornado too
@OrganicM
Just to let you know that it worked on Tornado too
Maybe putting it together with the CClock will be an option.
Thanks.

Yah I like it but for some reason it seems to slow down my phone even when I kill every application I was running. Is there a reason for this?

Working like a charm now
pudgedaddy said:
Here. If my steps are too confusing, I've repackaged the .cab. One with and the other without the auto-updater
the second one is the one without the auto-updater.
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I installed your cab and rebooted and worked even remembering my city and celsius but when I tried to open start menu would stay on chome. I rebooted again (remember its Windoze) and working well. thanks for all of your hard work OrganicM and you too pudgedaddy
OOPS now start menu wont open again (stays on chome but says recent programs all programs menu but wont go into start menu

Yeah, I noticed that too on the Kavana ROM.

daleksic said:
Yeah, I noticed that too on the Kavana ROM.
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Thats why use Rickys Rom, much better. Kavana gets props for starting this and Ricky gets props for finalizing the rom.

Damn! I thought I got most of the bugs out before I uploaded that cab. Now I look like a fool. lol !
OKay, aside from the obvious crap... how does it all work ?

pudgedaddy said:
same error here
edit. i think i figured out the problem. Mis named two files, he got them flip-flopped. Go to program files/nrg/chomeweather and locate the weather.mscr file. It needs to be renamed SlidingPanelMediatopbar.home.xml and placed in the application data/home folder.//// but b-4 doing that you need to find the SlidingPanelMediatopbar.home.xml already in the application data/home folder and put it somewhere so it doesnt get overwritten. Then after youve moved the first file,relocate the SlidingPanelMediatopbar.home.xml file you relocated and rename it Weather.mscr and place it in program files/nrg/chomeweather . then try the update
update: the vibrate thing when you update the weather is kinda funky. you can take it out of the weather.mscr if you dont like it. Just do your edit via notepad on your pc and replace it into its original directory on your phone that it came from.... also dont forget to soft reset your phone after installing this .cab
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It's odd that *I* would that intentionally isn't it ? LOL Well I didn't, I guess my cab packaging software went haywire. I reuploaded the cab in the first post.

The only bug i see is that it will not initialize a data connection to update the weather info. I already have to have a data connection started b-4 it will update. So i have to open a program like PIE or Opera, get the data connection started, end that application then do the update. kinda of a pain in the butt, but hey my weather slide hasnt gone away yet, so i guees that's good

Alright, this is the kind of feedback I want. I will look into that, as I have an always on data connection on my phone. Thanks.

Same here with the Data Connection, but as soon as I initialized my data connection and went to UPDATE WEATHER, it refreshed my home screen, put it back to the default "Green" color and the Weather panel was gone....? What gives with that?

That's strange. It must be facadehelper.exe misbehaving. What theme and background were you running before ?

All of your stuff Organic! I love your themes, add-ons, all that stuff! This is everything I have installed:
Chome LCD Mod
CHome_ICONPATHS
NRG Battmeter
rinku
NRG Sliding Panel Favorites
But this is where it get's confusing, cause I have switch Slim CHome everytime you put a new one out, so first I had the original "NRG SlimChome" then "NRG Slim Chome 2" and I just installed "NRG SlimChome II No border" now.
With all the confusion of these and not being able to "uninstall" them or whatever, I've been thinking about flashing my ROM and startin' from scratch again, but I don't want to have to do that.

The PudgeDaddy Fix
jdoggraz said:
Thats why use Rickys Rom, much better. Kavana gets props for starting this and Ricky gets props for finalizing the rom.
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Yeah, jdoggraz you are correct, that why I'm using Ricky's version 14 6.1 ROM, I personally belived version 14 is the best 6.1 ROM for the Excalibur. Now I have 27 slide slots, that includes The PudgeDaddy Weather Fix, plus the weather radar and MSNDirect News, Weather, stock report Entertainment and Sports and lots of other stuff. To The PudgeDaddy, your Weather Fix works like a charm and to NRG thanks for all your hard work.......!

Reeg said:
All of your stuff Organic! I love your themes, add-ons, all that stuff! This is everything I have installed:
Chome LCD Mod
CHome_ICONPATHS
NRG Battmeter
rinku
NRG Sliding Panel Favorites
But this is where it get's confusing, cause I have switch Slim CHome everytime you put a new one out, so first I had the original "NRG SlimChome" then "NRG Slim Chome 2" and I just installed "NRG SlimChome II No border" now.
With all the confusion of these and not being able to "uninstall" them or whatever, I've been thinking about flashing my ROM and startin' from scratch again, but I don't want to have to do that.
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I know, I wrote too many modifications lately. I'd say, start clean... There's no saying what you got in there now! haha

Which ROM should I use? Am I best off with Kavana's or Ricky's for your mods?

Manila 2.5 shortcuts cache - where is it?

Hi,
Figured out how to change icons on wm6.5 using registry. When I add a new quick link on manila today, I see the same png as in windows start menu. BUT: when I change a png file and do a SR start menu has new icon, and manila doesn't. Nothing helps - manila keeps the old version even if iI remove quick link and make it back - the old icon pops.
so, is there any icons cache or something I can clear to make my new icon appeared on Manila.
Thanks
sorry, i've found it by my self: /Application data/HTC/ProgLauncher/*.bmg....
hope, it'll be useful for somebody else too

cheers!
yeah... it helped me!
thought I was gonna have to HR to remove a nasty icon I'd assigned to my TomTom sw.
Cheers fella.