Standard GSM phone usually starts ringing exactly at the same time caller can hear ringing tone on his side.
In case of PocketPC it's not so obvious, because OS has to wake up, show calling screen, load ringtone and start playing it. We know this well.
In case of BlueAngel WM2003 needed up to 3 rings to start ringing. After several discoveries this time was reduced to less than one half full ring - it's hard to notice any additional delay.
Now back to our beloved Hermes: I used stock WM5 from Polish T-mobile branch (Era GSM), now I'm using Black 2.5. In case of both delay is quite long: in WM5 Hermes starts ringing when caller can hear 3rd ringtone, in case of Black it's much better: ringtone appears when caller is already listening to 2nd ring. So still it takes a lot of time and many callers complain that it takes so much time for me to pick up the phone.
Notice: in all cases I use default OldPhone.mid as ringtone; when I initiate call device is sleeping and has no active applications working in background)
So question to you:
How does it take for different roms to start ringing (I used not very precise measurement unit called "ring" - for me "one ring" this is time from begining of first ringing tone up to begining of the next ringing tone on caller side; there will be problem for UK (and similar) users, as ringing tone is doubled, but I think we can cope
How can we reduce the delay (apart from not using MP3s as ringtones)?
From standby, my WM6 ROM also picks up on the second ring. However, on a hermes it generally takes one full ring to wake up the device. This is not a call dependent delay; you'll see it when you press the power button as well. I'd doubt based on this fact that you'll ever get it below one ring unless you disable powersave mode.
Yes, you are right: wake up takes much longer in case of Hermes compared to BlueAngel... Is it only hardware dependent delay?
It seems to be.... I've never uncovered where this occurs.
I thought it was just from loading all sorts of stuff on here and/or "type" of ringer -- if it's a long .mp3 it takes longer to load.
I neer did much testing, took it as a fact of life. It would be great if this is controlable.
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It would be great if this is controlable.
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That's why I'm asking - In case of BlueAngel improvement over time was impressive, and maybe it's possible to achieve something with our Hermes.
Today I've tested my TyTN's response time.. and it's pretty ok. Using a land-line it was always 1 up to 1.5 rings before I got full information about the caller. And with mobile-mobile calls this was always about 1 - 1.1 rings.. So it's not that bad..
What I hate the most.. is when sth hangs and then I get a phone-call or a text-msg.. this drives me crazy :/
Ive tried every possible solution from different forums and the delay still there on my HTC Athena. Didn't try it yet on the Kaiser
But I found some forum talking about changing the the Slot Cycle Index
It was on a Samsung i-760 PDA Phone, and Ive tried the procedure
but wasn't able to go further then 2nd step
If somebody who's more experienced with that can check, it will be great
links
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsung-sch-i760/95260-delayed-ring-3.html
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/sams...menu-slot-cycle-index-changes.html#post681001
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I have a SPV m2000 with the latest rom from orange, the first problem i had was when you go to reply to a text you sometimes could only send 70 char. before you had a 2nd text, but that was sorted by this site by turning the use assci code off, the onlt other problem is this -
Sometimes when i go to make a phone call, i dont hear a dialing tone, but after a few seconds it starts counting up like in connected to the call. The person im ringing says that they got the call and they could hear me but i didn't reply. This has happened many times now, it seems to be after its been a long time since i restarted the phone, e.g in the morning etc
I was just wondering if anyone else had ths problem?
Silent Calls
I had this problem from day 1 with my M2000, and I had to soft reset to clear it. Recently updated Radio to 1.13 and Bluetooth to 3900 and problem hasn't re-occured. Of course this may be a coincidence... :roll:
Turn on BT and leave it on, even if you don't use it. This worked for me.
Sometimes when i go to make a phone call, i dont hear a dialing tone, but after a few seconds it starts counting up like in connected to the call. The person im ringing says that they got the call and they could hear me but i didn't reply.
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There is a huge thread on this somewhere with a poll (survey) in it. Last time I checked around 76% of owners of this handset have the 'no sound in call problem' to some degree.
My old BA did it 2-3 times a day. My new one with 1.13 radio ROM does it less often, but the problem still remains.
If you are really unhappy, and need a reliable phone you obviously wont want the BlueAngel again! Take it back to where you bought it. They will try to deny it is a known problem and at best give you a new Blue Angel. My advice is to find the thread on here, print all 10 pages of it and take it to where you bought the phone. They won't be able to deny it with the evidence right in front of them. Make sure you show it where the public can see/hear so they have to try and talk their way out of it in fornt of an audience
I did this to prove that the whistling screen was a known common problem, not something caused through my neglect and so I was entitled to a new handset under my warranty, not just a new screen (Everyone said the problem came back despite a new screen as the problem is with the circuit board)
As I remember, about 1 in 6 Blue Angel users will end up with a whistling screen after owning the device for a month so you probably have that to look forward to aswell.
My 1.40 iMate ROM may have helped too.
Read the wiki and upgrade to wm5. Problem has not happened for me in months.
I have a problem that more people seem to have, according to the search. I couldn’t find the “audio” tab in my Bluetooth-settings, so that didn’t help me.
The problem is as follows. After 1 day the sound on my compact III mutes, including vibration. Sometimes it's after 12 hours, sometimes after 2 days, there's no distinct pattern to be recognized. Also, it doesn't seem to matter if you use the phone or not, since it sometimes is alright at night and the sound is muted the next morning. This is for all sound-events (warnings, incoming call notifications, messages, mp3 etc), however, you can make a call without any problems and hear what the other person is saying. Once you’ve hard-reset the device everything is back to normal.
It does get annoying however, since I regularly miss calls due to this bug.
I had the same problem on my Vario in the past. So I’m guessing it’s somewhere in the software I use, but apart from Total Commander and TomTom6 I haven’t installed any third-party apps.
Yup i've been having a slight problem with the sound. I thought it was like the endless knackered M500's that orange used to send me which had speaker failure after about 10minuites! (Swear they kept sending me the same 2 faulty phones - I had 5 in 5 days once!) But a play in the bluetooth seems to get it working again.
The other annoying thing is that if you leave the power management at the default settings then occasionally the screen blanks without being able to get the backlight on again - so now I have to manually turn of the screen. Stil aint much of a problem - ive had a normal days use, 2 hours of radio play, bluetooth and wi-fi on all day and still have 35% battery - wehay!
Hopefully there'll be a patch soon to sort out he glitches.
I forgot to mention I had the exact same problem on my mda Vario also. I always thought it was a problem with that specific piece, but apparantly not.
Could it be the vibrate.cab that I'm using to produce vibrations when you use the phonepad? Or should I really do some further research in the bluetooth-department?
Same problem here.
Phone becomes completely silent after 9 hours in standby mode.
I need to reset it to get back sound
Does someone know what is going on here ?
Please advise. Thank you.
I seem to experience no problems the past couple of days (fingers crossed). I used the 'speed up your WM5' tweak where you set the Glyphcache to 32768. After I reduced it to 16something the problems seem to have disappeared.
I noticed that this problem happens when for example email is automatically checked during night. If email comes in (and is not read immediately) the phone will start notifying in background.
Notifications are kept and only a program like "check notifications" will delete them manually. But still if you delete them, the phone then needs a reset
to work properly again.
This is not a memory issue, it has to do with the notifications.
I do not know how to solve it.
Hi all,
Does anyone know a solution to the following issue that plagues a lot of windows mobile phones.
I did the following test
Nokia calls my Trinity > it takes anywhere from 2-5 seconds before the call appears on my screen, it takes another second before it starts vibrating, and another 1-3 seconds before the ringtone starts.
Worst case scenario it can take upto 9 seconds before you even know the phone is ringing! For the caller this means the second call beep has already started.
When i call back to the nokia, it starts ringing as soon as the connection is established
Anyone know which rom(s), patches, tips and tricks lead to a lower delay?
tetsuo55 said:
Hi all,
Does anyone know a solution to the following issue that plagues a lot of windows mobile phones.
I did the following test
Nokia calls my Trinity > it takes anywhere from 2-5 seconds before the call appears on my screen, it takes another second before it starts vibrating, and another 1-3 seconds before the ringtone starts.
Worst case scenario it can take upto 9 seconds before you even know the phone is ringing! For the caller this means the second call beep has already started.
When i call back to the nokia, it starts ringing as soon as the connection is established
Anyone know which rom(s), patches, tips and tricks lead to a lower delay?
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Do you use the Voice Command?
No i do not
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109
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i follow the instrustion but my trinity don't have ..\htc\audiogain. So does it work in trinity too?
i don't think that fix will work on wm6(.1)
Did you try or not?.
If it doesn't work, use tweaks2k2, search for it.
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atropo said:
Did you try or not?.
If it doesn't work, use tweaks2k2, search for it.
Bye
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I'm wondering if you, Atropo, did try it and if it works with the trinity...?(and in the affirmative case, which cab did you use ?)
and if not, how tweaks2k2 can help...?
thanks...
Because tweaks2k2 has a tweak to correct ring delay.
But wm device isn't a phone and it doesn't work like a phone about ring.
Bye.
tweaks2k2 can and does reduce the ringtone delay, but to reduce it even more we actually do need a wm6 version of those patches, together we might be able to get instant ring
Easy way to shorten delay.
I noticed this on my old c500 phone, just use an uncompressed wav file 22 khz mono instead of wma or mp3. it takes up time to process these file formats. I'm not really bothered, if someone can't wait a few seconds for you to pick up then it's not important. you can also lengthen the ring time untill it goes to voicemail.
Hi guys,
I have a Touch HD (running Dutty 2.9 right now) and there one thing that I just don't understand about this model as well as all the other smartphones out there. The Touch HD has some of the most advanced hardware specifications in the industry, the Windows Mobile OS can practically run any kind of software we can think of, and yet the notifications for basic things like missed call and new SMS message are from the stone age. I swear my old Sony K750 had much better ways of notifying me I had missed stuff on the phone.
I want to be able to select on my Touch HD what kind of alerts to receive when I get a missed call. I want to set the phone to ring an alert every X minutes, vibrate every Y minutes, flash the LED light and so on until I see what call I missed. If a get a new SMS while I'm not in the room, I'd like my phone to play the "New text message" every M minutes until I read it, as well as vibrate from time to time.
These are just examples. I just want a better notification method, one as advaced and customisable as the phone itself and its OS. Obviously MS isn't doing anything about it (and it's for small reasons such as this one that they've lost so many customers to iPhones or other devices), so does anyone know a good software that does what I require?
PS: after flashing Dutty 2.9, the screen turns on whenever I receive a new SMS. This is driving me crazy, since it's pressing stuff inside the pouch. I'm sure I've seen the option to disable this somewhere, but where? I can't find it anymore...
Hiya.
Im using my TP2 for two month and Im really satisfied with this phone (as I did with TyTnII (thanks for tab and ok keys there ;-).
But few things bother me so Im trying to ask here:
1) Default action in email is reply all. Is it possible to change it to reply?
2) incomming SMS have long vibration time. Where can I to make it shorter?
3) When Im calling someone and he pick it up, it vibrate. But too short, can it be longer?
4) there is possible to set phone to switch to external microphone when its faced down. But in spite of the fact that I have it checked, it doesnt work :-(
5) row, where is battery, time and notification pole is everything extept battery notification filed. It means that anywhere I click Notifications is opened. What bother me the most is, that there is for example new email and when I click on it nothing happened ;-(. Rhodium Pack should solve this problem, but its not avaible anymore because of some licence problem.
6) I was always using another than original rom. In TP1 I was using song recognize program, TCPMP, etc. Can someone give me advice, what ROM is now the best? What ROMs are you using and why? Can someone explain me what are shortcuts in the names (WWE etc)? Im in Western Europe, but why its so important?
Thanks a lot!!
John
I don't know the answers to everything, but I know that there are places in the registry that can be removed (named OutlookEnhancement) to remove the reply all. Here is one area to look:
[HKLM\Services\OutlookEnhancement]
"DLL"="OutlookEnhancement.dll"
Remove the OutlookEnhancement.dll field. I'm sure if you searched for something like remove reply all, you will find hits on it explaining how to do it.
I've seen the long vibrate on text, and haven't felt the need to change it but every now and then a bug happens where it vibrates REALLY long, like over a minute, and then I just hit a button to stop it.
I've never seen a Vibrate on Connect modification to let it vibrate longer.
Mine usually switches to external mic when I flip it upside down. I've had it not to it once or twice. Does your G-Sensor work in applications? Maybe Calibrate it? And try it on a level non moving surface (like a table).
WWE means World Wide English. Best ROM questions usually go unanswered here. Everyone's preferences for a favorite rom are different. Line up and sample the Chef's selections and see which one tastes best to you