Hi,
I'm new to smartphones and i spent a lot of time reading this cool site about tweaking our phones to higher level. What I'm missing on this site is some newbie manual on wiki with list of tools and procedures how to on each type of phone: backup ROM, restore the ROM from bootloader and all the other stuff for modifying ROMs etc.
Is anybody here, who has such knowledge, experience to create these manuals? I found several of them in threads. But why not to keep them organized in wiki?
thanks for your help,
Jenda
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As a new user, I am already finding many people looking for software and ROMs.
If a new subforum could be created to contain all the ROMs that people have cooked and (perhaps in another subforum) software/tools that would be useful, this change may allow users to find information much easily and reduce duplicate threads.
A lot of what you are asking can be found in wiki. (roms, How to)
As for sofware if you are looking for something I have found handango a good place to start.
I was thinking more along the lines of unofficial ROMs that people have already cooked. I generally frequent the Wizard upgrading forum and see threads with custom roms on many of the pages. Only roms I found on the wiki were retail/official roms. Also, I noticed that a search using the word "rom" does not turn up any results.
In regards to software, it would be freeware and tools such as lokiwiz, total commander etc. On second thought though, the software subforum may be unnecessary or can just be consolidated into one thread as a sticky.
The search for 3 letter words does not work, there is a post about that in about (thus "new rom" returns nothing.
Roms end up in wiki as users post them to ftp and link then to wiki.
(mods move then to a safe place on ftp and fix the link (if they know about it).
If you are finding no cooked roms in wiki its due to the fact that the cooker did not post them or if he did nobody linked them.
If you feel like adding a good/great/useful software section open a page on wiki, it free for all and that would solve your problem and maybe a few others as well. (in my link there is wiki developement and there you will find a smaple page which will give you a few ideas about how to set up a page).
This forum is more about roms and hacks around roms than software. Software does pop up in general as in "I am looking for a free ftp client".
Not sure if you will ever find a stick for it as threads get long and people will just enter "resco explore" on every other page (as an example).
which side[QUOTE=Tsuioku;1041009]As a new user, I am already finding many people looking for software and ROMs.
If a new subforum could be created to contain all the ROMs that people have cooked and (perhaps in another subforum) software/tools that would be useful, this change may allow users to find information much easily and reduce duplicate threads.[/QUOTE]
Which Side??
Well there are many based on the device
Wiki must have tools
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Must_have_tools
Wiki BA roms
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
Check wiki for more
Newbie question. I don't understand, what is difference between a kitchen and tools like mamaich's ? At first I thought they were the same but now I'm not sure because I keep seeing references that don't make sense.
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Post removed? That's it? Pardon me....Look, I know this is a newbie question but I am honestly confused as to what the definition of kitchen is. If I use mamaich's tools to prepare, view, etc. I end up with what seems, to me, to be a similar thing as a kitchen. Are they the same? Is there something about a "kitchen" that is fundamentally different than only using the tools? I have read many, many pages here and I'm honestly trying to understand. Please point me in the right direction. Thank you.
edit: sorry, I thought "post removed" in the earlier post meant I got my message removed from the forum by an admin, anyway, my question still stands.
Since the unhelpful member above failed to give you a decent answer, I will help you. Tools are either a program or a set of programs designed to do a task with the roms (for example, Mammich's tools are designed to help you edit the imgfs part of the rom). A kitchen is a set of tools (made by various people) designed to edit the whole rom or most of the rom and build your own custom roms.For future reference, if you ever have any other questions about rom building, let me know and I will help you out as much as I can.
Thank you very much Steven855 and I appreciate the offer to help.
I originally gave an inadequate answer - thus the removed post. Home ill with the flu, Nyquilled up and forgot which section I was in (thought I was in the Kaiser specific section and gave an answer associated with that). No ill intentions, so to speak.
What I will say is the various tools are something a newbie should probably feel comfortable using. Before using a kitchen, read, learn and flash a number of others' custom ROMs. While the great developers here have made cooking custom ROMs very easy with the kitchens, you can cause a lot of problems with your device if you don't know what you're doing.
No ill intentions taken. Like I said, at first I misunderstood and thought my post got nixed by an admin. btw notwithstanding Steven855's helpful answer, I had my question answered earlier on another thread when the same question came up.
Quote originally Posted by ramsses:
My understanding is the kitchen implies each module (with its associated registry - RGU - files and dlls etc.) is explicitly separated so it can be incrementally and selectively combined. What we are doing here is taking an existing set of ROMs and combining the dlls, exe etc. by hand - there isn't a handy gui where you can select which module you want. Also, the registry is necessarily hand crafted too. So by using the extract/rebuild tools, we are making a ROM, but it isn't a kitchen, more a roadside burger van!
Thanks again, really enjoying this site, and learning alot.
Steven855 said:
Since the unhelpful member above failed to give you a decent answer, I will help you. Tools are either a program or a set of programs designed to do a task with the roms (for example, Mammich's tools are designed to help you edit the imgfs part of the rom). A kitchen is a set of tools (made by various people) designed to edit the whole rom or most of the rom and build your own custom roms.For future reference, if you ever have any other questions about rom building, let me know and I will help you out as much as I can.
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Hi Steven. I was wondering if you knew about ROM cooking for Verizon CDMA devices..ie the i730? I was looking around to see where I would be able to find the bootloader for it but I haven't found any answers yet. Thanks.
Sorry! Unfortunately, I don't know anything about rom cooking for pocket pc phones (yet). I'm still trying to get the hang of this rom building stuff myself (after 2 failed attemps to make an updated rom for the axim X50(mid)).
Hello, guys!
The forum is super but here is ocmplete disorder. Where are the ROMS?
How can one find a ROM file here?? The forum is huge and the search leads to discontinued results (2008 year)
Can someone point me to ROM file archive here?
BR
I'd demand a full refund of the money you've paid....
Seriously, if you scroll down through this list a few pages, some kind person has compiled a thread with all the links in one place. Search is terrible and you have to spend lots of your own time. Still, it's free.
Man its full of ROMs. Most active topics or most discussed ROMs are showed on first page. U dont need to search, just click on thread one the rom u like. Its noted by Cook, Built, WM version, sense version, and ROM Version.
Its easy as it can be.
But it's a mess here!
No normal instructions. All are outdated.
Well, as it was said - it's free and therefore it's messy.
ROMs here - one file, no Ruupdate.exe , no nothing. Like if any user comming here is a professional HTC developer. I am simple user and i am sick of spending hours of my time by gathring info by tips. Well, like i said -- good forum, but no order.
What are you complainin?
Please just have a look at recent posts as already said.
The threads where you have a lot of activity are the threads with new roms.
There are also plenty of tutorials!
For example this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
For sure you will need some time to compare different roms and find your best fitting one....which comes with the big choise of roms.
And also there will be little problems from time to time which I'm sure you can solve in a short amount of time.
I can recommend the google search, not built in forum search.
Concerning flashing you don't need to use Ruupdate.exe, it's way easier to name your .nbh file DIAMIMG.nbh, move it to the phone's internal storage and flash directly (see tutorial)
Kind regards and have fun with your new roms
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What are you complainin?
Please just have a look at recent posts as already said.
The threads where you have a lot of activity are the threads with new roms.
There are also plenty of tutorials!
For example this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
For sure you will need some time to compare different roms and find your best fitting one....which comes with the big choise of roms.
And also there will be little problems from time to time which I'm sure you can solve in a short amount of time.
I can recommend the google search, not built in forum search.
Concerning flashing you don't need to use Ruupdate.exe, it's way easier to name your .nbh file DIAMIMG.nbh, move it to the phone's internal storage and flash directly (see tutorial)
Kind regards and have fun with your new roms
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My complain is that forum is full of unimportant trash in topics and no really helpfull info. Like now, i have found a ROM, flashed it and i lost TouchFlo ) Super!
And no original ROMS, only some outdated.
Well, i am a bit tired reading this forum today within 8 hours to find more or less fresh tut, so i can not tell you exactly what is wrong, but i am telling you - i am professional software developer, not a lamer and not a pumpkin head BUT i lost in this forum, jumping from link to link.
I would delete ALL and put all in order:
Flash (ROM) files here:
Radio files here:
Boot loaders (Hard SPL or whatever it's called) here:
Flashers (Software) here:
Tutorials here:
Discussion here:
Instead i see 13248 topics with xxxxx messages inside and 1% of useful info.
Well, if you take donations then make it user friendly.
I will donate 100 USD to make it in order.
And PS - this is a problem that there are Plenty or tutorials!
Like we say in my language - brevity wit! Try to write the less and put sense the more.
Like when i read - hard SPL... then 100 lines text, cheers to authors and then - a patched bootloader..
LOL
I know there's a bunch of threads out there on the different cooked ROMs that are available out there. Being a noobie to this, I was looking for any insight how to go about flashing my very first cooked ROM. I have a Tilt2 that I purchased a little over a month ago with a couple tweeks I mustered up enough confidence to do: crud scraper and some registry edits via rescoe editor. Flashing a ROM seems like there's a whole lot more involved and with my limited knowledge may wind up rendering my phone inoperable for life with one or three missed steps.
Any insights as to the necessary steps .... in a step by step manner preferably .... would be very much appreciated!
Might want to check out the ROM Development subforum. All you need to know is in there.
I want to be clear, I used the search feature before posting here. I was able to find vaguely related threads, but there was a similar issue with each. They all were made on the assumption that the reader has a basic understanding of the terminology and the purpose of each of those things. While I've jailbroken iPhones in the past, I find that there is a world of difference between doing that and doing anything on the droid. While there is usually only one model of iPhone to worry about, there are several different versions of each model of phone released that runs the Android OS. This, coupled with all of the different things you can do discourages me from reading the mode advanced threads and blindly following the instructions. I want to understand the basics so that I can understand why I'm flashing a rom, why I'm rooting, what a flash counter is, etc.
If anybody remembers coming across a good thread or website that gives a good intro to Android (modification, upgrading, etc), then please let me know where I can find it! I would be grateful even if the information spans across 5 different sources, as long as it is a good introduction. I'm mainly interested in:
Stock Roms
Rooting
Recovery
Odex vs. deodex
Flash Counter
Flashing Rom
Thanks in advance guys!