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Hello all,
Wanted to share that I was able to install the cab file taken from the palm messing that was found in the MDA section of xda-developers.com forum, can't find the thread now sorry!!!!!! But I was able to install and get the program to send text messages out, but it will not thread because in the registry couldn't I couldn't change the sms key to sms.old
In the Dash registry it was a lil different than the MDA, if anyone could help would be greatly appreciated. I know it's simple just not sure, still neebe but willing to learn and try!!!!!!!!
Yes..someone please get this to work. As i'm sure we are all coming from MDA or similar devices. I was one of the lucky ones to get the threaded sms app from Palm working on my device. It's definitely nice. Don't get me wrong the 2 sms threader apps that are available now: sms threader & TXTMAN are nice..but they have some big tradeoffs that didn't occur on the Palm version.
umm..wow..it really does work. I did the normal instructions from the "How-To"... no notification sounds for it though. Im sure a little registry hacking could fix that. Everything threads hmm..testing mms..well i actually i cannot test..just realized I can't even navigate anymore lol. Pressing the back key closes the program. ARGHH! you can get around the smiley's and Mytext just buy bringing up the option but other than that it looks like a dead end. Any suggestions?
dialekt said:
umm..wow..it really does work. I did the normal instructions from the "How-To"... no notification sounds for it though. Im sure a little registry hacking could fix that. Everything threads hmm..testing mms..well i actually i cannot test..just realized I can't even navigate anymore lol. Pressing the back key closes the program. ARGHH! you can get around the smiley's and Mytext just buy bringing up the option but other than that it looks like a dead end. Any suggestions?
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I plan on playing around some more in the registry to see what i can get to work!!!!!!! I post more after some other tweaks.
I have 1.5 for smartphone but cant get it to work either, crashes upon running, I bound bengalboys site but cant find the install guidelines, anyone have the link?
Thanks
G
GuardianZX9 said:
I have 1.5 for smartphone but cant get it to work either, crashes upon running, I bound bengalboys site but cant find the install guidelines, anyone have the link?
Thanks
G
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I was using the cab file for the ppc and I haven't been able to get it work like it was working on the MDA. Tried all kinds things in the registry, but nothing seemed to work.
Then I finally got the thread to work but all together lost MMS, As for your situation did you make the registry tweaks to sms and mms1 and change them to .old? Not to familiar with 1.5 and assuming it may have to have the same setup. If I find anything I will let you know.
For now I have taken it off and it required for me to reset the phone and start all over. So once again I will be working on the aforementioned issues.
I didnt do the registry entries, I wasnt able to find them on BB's site.
The version I have is branded as "SmartPhone" vs the PPC version which I also have.
I think it is for the older processor type maybe?
G
ok, found the info on BB's site and made the registry changes as well as the app unlock.
VC still refuses to run on my Dash, all I get is "VoiceCommand has encountered a problem, restart voice command"
Noticed that voice comand also completely breaks the built in voice dialing
G
Could someone send me the install file please? thanks
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Could someone send me the install file please? thanks
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Feel free to pm me and I will be more than happy to send you the file
It seems this user has disappeared. Please, if anyone still has the SmartPhone branded version of the software please PM me or reply and I'll contact you.
Thanks in advance,
-g
I also need the smartphone version. If one of you good hearted souls can assist with this. thanks in advance.
Hey there, can anyone point me to a version of Black 3 for T-mobile UK users?
The forum's "search" feature isn't exactly useful.
thanks, Forlornity
There isnt one, thats probably why the search feature isnt proving "useful"
I guessed as much
I'm an utter n00b with the whole re-flashing process, so can anyone allay my fears that I'm going to end up bricking my device?
Also, is it easy to set it up to work with t-mobile UK anyway, what sort of things would I need to do after installing the new OS ROM?
thanks, Forlornity
just use the normal black, and then apply the t-mobuk.cab (not sure, of its exact spelling) that will setup all the t=mobile settings for you.
what's the likelihood of bricking the device during the install (keeping in mind that this is a bog standard, no special parts, windows XP home laptop)?
oh, and where exactly does this "t-mobuk.cab" reside?
Is it on the forums or does black include it?
Have you read the wiki, and the thread on the rom you plan to install? How about the upgrade guide? If so, then the chance of bricking are low. If not, bricking is a very real possibility. As long as you read and understand it first, you will be happy with the ROM upgrade of your choice.
You really want to the reading the WIKI, everything is that you as a 'Newbie' you will need... including the T-Mobile cab. Read the upgrading sections.
yeah, I'm following the guide on it, but Hard spl takes less than a second to flash, is this correct? shouldn't it take a little longer than that?
thanks, Forlornity
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yeah, I'm following the guide on it, but Hard spl takes less than a second to flash, is this correct? shouldn't it take a little longer than that?
thanks, Forlornity
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Nope, it's a very fast flash. Afterwards you can put the phone in bootloader to verify it.
oh bugger, summat's up:
it comes up with a message saying "resources.96.dll
starting this program requires a component from an unknown publisher. You should start the program only if you trust the publisher's source do you want to continue?
yes/no"
it won't let me press anything.
What did I do and is it fixable?
Ok, I've had some ideas over the past few minutes as to the problem, and I THINK I've narrowed it down to windows live messenger.
The machine would respond for about two seconds before it crashed, during which time I was able to click on running programs, preventing it from trying to open the today screen (I believe). I've now taken windows live messenger off of the start screen and it's working fine, the resources notification has also disappeared, possibly because I managed to click yes.
Anyone have any previous experience with this sort of thing happening?
Does anyone know of any application for WM6 (Im running Black Majik) where youre able to lock an application, such as Messaging, with a PIN
i used to have a RAZR (yes i know, kill me now) but i was able to do it on there
i dont mind people playing around with my phone, just there are some things in text messages and E-Mails that i would rather people not be able to access
Neverwork said:
Does anyone know of any application for WM6 (Im running Black Majik) where youre able to lock an application, such as Messaging, with a PIN
i used to have a RAZR (yes i know, kill me now) but i was able to do it on there
i dont mind people playing around with my phone, just there are some things in text messages and E-Mails that i would rather people not be able to access
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Wouldnt it be easier to just lock the whole phone with a PIN number and when you have to give it to somebody to play with, just watch what they're doing ?
people always take it and just play games on it and what not, but im not paranoid enough to watch over their shoulder at their every movement, id rather just have an application lock if at all possible
Good news and bad news. Good news, such software exist. I saw it somewhere before and it is relatively new (e.g. near the period of WM6). The bad news is, I've forgot the name, and it is not freeware. You'll need to search harder.
UPDATE: Good news, I've found it. Bad news, it cost you $25
http://www.fkn1337.com/dal
thank you very much
it makes no sense why software doing such a simple task costs $25...
...ill definitely give this one a look-see...but still in hopes someone has freeware to offer?
hanmin said:
Good news and bad news. Good news, such software exist. I saw it somewhere before and it is relatively new (e.g. near the period of WM6). The bad news is, I've forgot the name, and it is not freeware. You'll need to search harder.
UPDATE: Good news, I've found it. Bad news, it cost you $25
http://www.fkn1337.com/dal
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it works for Windows Mobile 5 only
i saw that too right after i posted back
:-/
Apologies if this appears elsewhere but I have looked without success. If it does then a link to the solution would be great.
Basically I found this site a few weeks ago and since then have been tinkering with my phone. I've tried various roms, added different programs, played about with the settings and so on. Today I have finally got it just how I want it. It is overclocked to run quickly but safely. The today screen is perfect. It contains everything I need including my huge list of contacts. And my theme is spot-on. However usually in life when everything is right something big and hairy appears out of nowhere and dumps on you. Its got to the point where I panic every time I turn it on just in case it crashes and I need to start all over again.
My question therefore is if anyone knows of a utility (or can give detailed instructions) to completely back up the phone. Right down to the user settings, theme and contacts. If possible maybe even to create a rom image of my phone so that if it does ever crash I can reinstall the whole thing from one simple file. I assume this sort of thing must be possible because Kavana and Ricky produce such wonderful roms with various programs, etc pre-installed.
Can it be done? And if so - can it be done by an enthusiastic amateur or do you need to be a tech guru? I should add I don't mind paying if I need to buy a piece of commercial software to achieve this.
GS
Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...
An option
Not sure about the cooked 6.1 Roms. Maybe someone else might know or have tried.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/
I use this and it's well worth it.
if u just mean the saved registry values and what not u can always export the registry so that way if u have to hard reset the phone or if a new amazingly wowlike rom is released and u NEED to flash u can always import the registry values of the chomes and it'll be the way u left it (thats what I do for my myfaves and my programs)
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Did you even bother to search google for "smartphone backup" ? The very first link that comes up, takes you right to the software you say you need. I apologize for being harsh, but I hate the lack of common sense...
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No problem, and you are entitled to your opinion. however its replies like that which stop people making posts to forums like this. Everyone has to start somewhere, and one man's obvious "common sense" answer is another man's dilemma.
As for using google... yep I could have done that but google links to hundreds of pages, some owned by people trying to sell software which obviously means they won't be objective. Others have methods which could damage a phone and because I don't know the writers how do I know which methods to trust? Ergo I decided to come to site I know, with people whose technical knowhow I trust, and to search the forum and then ask them for advice. To me, that is common sense. Isn't that one of the reasons that places like this exist? So non techheads can ask guys like you for help?
No offence intended and, for what its worth, you are one of the guys whose advice on this forum has helped me countless times. So thank you for that no matter what. Without your posts I'd never have got this far in the first place! I mean that.
As for the other replies... thanks guys. I will look into the registry stuff. And I will certainly check out the software link. If I do find some info on google, I hope you folks will help me pick the best method to use and avoid bad advice.
Thanks again.
GS
Okay the Sprite software is perfect. And now I've checked it out maybe my question was a stupid one. Still, its nice to have a recommendation from an independent source. I've been burnt in the past by bad google advice.
Sorry if I've wasted anyone's time.
GS
This is a long rant manifested by my anger from the last few days event dealing with BestBuy China and HTC
I've tried to summarize my problem at the bottom if you don't feel like reading through the horrors of buying a smartphone in mainland China.
Story
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I recently decided to say goodbye to my samsung galaxy spica when it was stolen a few days ago. I live and study in China so I head over to BestBuy to get myself a new phone (yes, china has BestBuy). Once I enter the store and announce that I am in a search for a cellphone I am swarmed by five or six cellphone experts. I love android so I tell them I want the HTC desire HD; this temptress of a phone which appeals to my most inner desires. The best buy cellphone guys assures me that the phone is in English and that everything will be to my satisfaction. It is a fine day for spending credit and I am psyched as I draw my golden credit card from my back pocket as a modern warrior. I swipe my card elegantly and fast, as if I am a man who have made purchases of this magnitude many times before. I tell the lady behind the counter, who by the way does not speak a word English:
"Today is the day I am reborn!!"
I grab my newly purchased baby and throw myself into a taxi. I force the phone out of its wrappings and switch it on as soon as I'm done telling the taxi driver to take me home. The HTC logo appears "quietly briliant" it proclaims. After a few seconds of that the phone asks me weather I want English or Chinese? As my English is substantially better than my Chinese I went with English, cool enough! As I get home in range of my wireless I enter my google account details and I'm set! I tell this baby to automatically sync everything I got. I receive my first email after only 3 minutes of syncing and can see my entire inbox, really cool! My contacts and calendar is probably right around the corner but since it's kind of late I go to bed, I'm a very happy first time HTC customer and I dream a happy dream about flowers.
You can probably guess that this is the paragraph where it all turns to ****. Correct. I wake up and find that neither my contacts nor calendar have been synced. Probably a glitch. I enter the sync settings and find that my google account isn't there. Probably something I've missed. I press "Add account" and find that there is no option to add an google account at all, not cool. I search high and low for an answer, read cryptic texts translated by the mighty google translate. People keep saying to just look press "add account" and add my google account and follow the on screen instructions. Since I know I'm following the instructions correctly I just figure I give HTC a call to finally just fix this minor issue. I hit up HTC Hong Kong (HTC China doesn't have a English site so it's hard to navigate). They tell me that I have a Simplified Chinese rom. Ok, well that figures, I think to myself.. So how can I sync my google account? "I'm sorry sir that's not possible, you can however try to sync your gmail account to Microsoft outlook 2003/2007 and manually sync contacts every time you connect to your computer."
(excuse my language but I don't know any other way to express my feelings at that time other than...) "What the ****!?"
Is it not an android device I am wielding in my hand? Do I need a workaround to sync my google account? The tech support-guy asks for my email "to check if my device has that function (read: sync google accounts)" and he will contact me later. Turns out I can sync my contacts and calendar semi effectively through exchange activeSync. Alright, not exactly what I wanted but, pheeeew!! I can work with this.
I start customizing my DHD and think to myself, would it not be nice with some apps to go with this phone? Yeah, it would! I head over to the android market and install all the apps I could ever dream of. No wait, where is the android market? Oh there it is.. it's just called 'HTC Marketplace', figures, since this is an HTC device I'm holding. I head over to the HTC Marketplace.
HTC Marketplace greets me:
"I will provide you with the best application to your specific device, son!"
"Great, like apps that are customized to fit the DHD?"
"No, apps that are in Chinese."
"Oh, so how do I access my regular apps, like barcodescanner, facebook, youtube, spotify, etc? You know, the good ol' apps I've come to love over the years?"
"Sorry son, I don't know why, but that's just impossible for me to do for you, because my programming tells me I hate you"
Since HTC marketplace hates my guts I hit up HTC tech support again. My conversation goes a little like this:
"Hello, I'm having trouble with the android market"
"Yes, you want access the android market?"
"Yes"
"I'm sorry to inform you that you that you cant access the android market, but you can however access the beautiful world of 'HTC marketplace', a world of possibilities and anime!"
"I wish I bought an iPhone 4..."
Yeah well, I guess it just wasn't meant to be, I should just return the DHD to bestbuy and order one from America or europe. What do you know? In China there is no such thing as a return policy. And the cellphone guys who told me I would be more than happy with my new DHD can't understand why I possibly can be unhappy with it and they suggest stuff like "Go on the internet", "Try calling HTC and ask them to open your phone for american internet access" and my favorite "You can call and send messages? Yes? Then no problem with your phone, go home"
So now I'm stuck with the most expensive phone I've ever purchased which China ruthlessly ripped the heart and soul out of, only to sell it to me and tell me the phone is more than good enough since it can make calls and send messages.
Sure to say, I had the worst day..
I should have ordered from Hong Kong.
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Problem
In short, I have a Chinese DHD without the ability to access the android market and it is generally crippled. This is apparently because of the Traditional Chinese rom it comes with. I would ultimately like to have a generic/stock DHD rom (I'm not quite sure what you call them but vanilla, out of the box, etc in world wide english) and I have no idea if this is possible or where to start my journey towards fixing this.
I've been reading about rooting for two days now and I still am unsure as to what I should do and where to start. Please, help a fellow out, I'm having a really bad week.
My phone:
Android version: 2.2.1
Build number: 1.75.1400.4
Software number 1.0.0.A9191
(If you need any other info from me please do tell me)
Impossible to do anything, as rooting not possible.
Chinese user with a HongKong DHD
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
In theory, you could install WWE (world wide english) stock ROM, but unfortunatelly, not with your software version as it is not rootable yet
Bloody hell that sounds bad, is this will all Chinese Desire HDs then? It's almost like one of those knock-off phones although you have purchased it genuinely. Don't know how things work in China but if you cant root it then give HTC a call and demand a replacement from Europe/America.
Again, don't know how things work in China but i would so furious that i would cancel my credit card and tell them to go screw themselves. Speak to a lawyer if you intend to do that..
if you really cant give the phone back, try to sell it.
perhaps anyone else will buy it.
than get one from europe or the US.
thats so damn pity, caus the phone os realy godlike i think.
if u cant sell it and dont have enuff money for a new nice phone, wait a little until an root hack for your version comes out.
thats really bad, i know
sry m8!
Just wait around for the root to come out for the software just like the rest of suckers who updated! ;p
Would the Goldcard method work here?
It should in theory work. I'm not sure you need root access to just flash a ROM from a different region. I did it on my previous Desire which I got from Hong Kong. Flashed a WWE ROM when Froyo was released.
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The problem is with Google, not China or HTC. Just like most of the 3rd world countries can't buy anything on the Android Marketplace (nevermind that fact that we cant even develop a paid app to publish on the market).
hehehehe ... i just read through your rant ... made quite a read .. ok now to fix your problem
Root your phone .. its no biggie follow this link and you will be all set
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076
next go to the development section , choose a rom of your liking .. suggest android revolution hd or leedroid .... read instructions and flash your phone .. .that should pretty much fix your problem ... do let us know how it went
Edit: Oops just saw that your build is 1.75 ... Sorry mate , no root for the phone at the moment
Maybe you should re-read his post, especially the end.
The latest HTC update has been applied, there is no root or ENG HBOOT options at the moment.
A little update
I've been emailing HTC asking them to fix (read: let me return) the phone ever since I realized I wouldn't be able to return the phone to BestBuy and I just got a call from HTC.
First a guy who could only speak Chinese called, sure to say that wasn't a very productive conversation as my Chinese is very basic. I then recieve a second call late at night from someone at the Hong Kong office who speaks English. After about 5 minutes of telling me that he understood my situation, could feel my pain, was sympathetic to my problem and would do everything in his power to help solve it, I thought things were looking up! The conversation progresses like this but gradually he starts saying stuff like "help you make use of your device as best as we can" and "make it easy for you to operate". This was when I realized this person was not going to help me. I knew that if he was going to actually help he would have told me by now that I could return the phone, not this about "easing me into the phone". Finally the guy gets to the point and says "But although we understand your problem, there is nothing wrong with the hardware itself and we can not help you return the phone. Your perceived problem is with the software."
Christ..
To this I of course reply "Even though the problem is software related it's not any less of a problem, it has rendered the phone completely useless to me and I don't think the phone fulfilles the vision I got after reading reviews and watching the ads before buying it" ...And here we go again with the appoligizes and general willingness to help me use the phone as it currently is. He even asked me which applications I was missing so he could try and find Chinese "replacement apps", or Chinese apps that would fulfill my needs.
I'm not giving up yet, I'm sure HTC is willing to help me with this if I could only reach the right people in the organization. This is has turned into a genuine nightmare first time experience with HTC..
@RED_ I think this is how all Chinese DHD works, yes. And I don’t think I want to risk seeing the inside of a Chinese prison by cancelling my credit card although it is very tempting :\
@Eddie1506; tranceonline; momavujistic; irteza_h, I guess I have to wait for someone with the know-how to make my version rootable. I’m turning off automatic updates on my phone to prevent it from further updating.
@leppie, I can’t even access the free applications. I think HTC (or google) made this ‘HTC marketplace’ to be accepted by the government. When I was speaking with HTC today I asked why there was no access to the android market in the first place. They told me “because your phone is Chinese and the market you can access is specialized to your location and the customers in that location”. Which I think means that they can’t sell phones with the open android market in China because of government restrictions. The real android market works down here though, I could access it through on my European Samsung Galaxy.
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It should in theory work. I'm not sure you need root access to just flash a ROM from a different region. I did it on my previous Desire which I got from Hong Kong. Flashed a WWE ROM when Froyo was released.
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Are you guys saying it might work? If there's a chance I will try. How can I test this? Or is it safest to wait for someone to come up with a way to root this device?
How long does it generally take for a new root technique to be ready? Also, I've seen people complaining because they updated to version 1.72 or something. I have 1.75, does this mean 1) that I have to wait a lot longer or maybe 2) that my phone has some kind of special software?
hey there,
after reading your messages through this morning and everything, you should be able to flash a WWE Rom using this guide --> here <--
i hope this helps you liberate your DHD, if you need any help with this guide let me know ill guide you through
its the goldcard method.
Yep, try the goldcard method. If it works you'll get a WWE Desire HD. Not sure you need to do all these. You might just try to create a goldcard, have it in your phone, and just run any WWE RUU you want. I'd stay away from the 1.72 one as it seems to be causing alot of problems. However you might not be able to buy apps from the market since buying paid apps from the market is not possible from China. See http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=143779 .
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
well there is a liberated market somewhere on the forums for DHD
your phone was 'harmonised' by the communist government
I think you really should gain root access to your device and flash a customised ROM on it, in *should* solve your problem. though you probably want to have a backup before you do so
To be honest scientist, i wish you read earliar he cant root a 1. 75 rom. So he'll have to use the goldcard method
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His best option is as suggested by flo. Just hours ago a method has been released which will allow him to downgrade to the wwe stock rom 1.32 version. From there he can root and install a custom rom, or if preferred simply keep it at stock and update it to wwe 1.72 version. As far as market restrictions go it is possible to use "market enabler" hacks to allow paid access to the market anywhere.
This sounds like good news!
Yesterday when I wrote the original reply I was kind of drunk and it was 6am I think so I'm just rewriting the entire reply. For all it shortcomings when it comes to smartphones, China do have a lot of opportunities for people (like me) who want to stay out all night singing karaoke and eating popcorn. Anyway, I think the best approach, instead of asking any of you to hold my hand through this is that I just post what I think I should do and then you can tell me if I'm way off target.
Is this correct?
Step 1 - making a goldcard
I think you are saying that I need to make a goldcard and for that I follow the 'creating a goldcard' over at modaco.com. It looks quite straightforward so I don't think this will be a problem. However, I need to venture out into China and find a real SDcard with an adapter (guess I'm heading over to BestBuy again)
Question: In the downgrading thread it says to "Use MMC2!!", what does that mean?
Step 2 - Downgrading
I've extracted the downgrade folder conveniently to d:\downgrade and will open cmd and type inn all the commands I have no idea what actually does (I'm used to this ). Then I will look for "#" and proceed. I will copy PD98IMG.zip to the goldcard and hopefully there will be some instructions of some kind that I can follow.
Step 3 - profit?
If all this works what should I do next? Or more, where am I? What will happen after this? Do I have a stock rom now? And can I just stop there and update the rom and be happy? I do plan to root my device some time later, but for now I will be more than super happy just to have a wwe stock rom with no root, fully updated with the android market. Am I far off?
Success! Got myself a goldcard!
Now what do I do with it? (for real, it's not really clear in any of the guides what I should do with the goldcard microSD). Do I put it into the phone?