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You know, while I realize that it can be annoying as hell when someone asks about the Touch Plugin, SMS threader, insert your whatever here, especially when there's a thread on that very thing about three lines down from the top, responding to a thread by saying "Use the search function, noob," really doesn't help a whole lot. I just spent half an hour pouring over about 30 god-damned threads filled with irrelevant bullsh!t and flame wars about how the original poster should use the search function. Well you know what? I DID use the search function, and ended up getting post after post telling me to do so. Every time we respond to a post without answering it, it shows up later to screw someone over who's actually been doing what they should. So please, if you must tell some new-comer to search before posting, at least follow it up by telling him where to find his answer, so it doesn't affect the rest of us later.
Alternatively, perhaps the mods could delete these threads entirely. And while they're at it, if they could improve the search feature, that'd be great too, because it totally sucks right now. Can't search "SMS" or "3G" or anything else under three letters, which can be kind of a big deal around here. Doesn't have quotation function. Lots of room for improvement.
Wow. Looks like you got it all figured out now.
You're right, the integrated search kinda blows. Try this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298893
2 letters, 3 letters, quotes, you name it. It's a sticky in the 'Hermes' forum. But should be in all of the forums IMHO.
BTW, make sure you include Hermes in the search term to get Hermes specific results.
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Wow. Looks like you got it all figured out now.
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A fine example of an INCONSTRUCTIVE answer, if you know better, why didnt u suggest the google search to him smart arse?
Check my signature for a link
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You know, while I realize that it can be annoying as hell when someone asks about the Touch Plugin, SMS threader, insert your whatever here, especially when there's a thread on that very thing about three lines down from the top, responding to a thread by saying "Use the search function, noob," really doesn't help a whole lot. I just spent half an hour pouring over about 30 god-damned threads filled with irrelevant bullsh!t and flame wars about how the original poster should use the search function. Well you know what? I DID use the search function, and ended up getting post after post telling me to do so. Every time we respond to a post without answering it, it shows up later to screw someone over who's actually been doing what they should. So please, if you must tell some new-comer to search before posting, at least follow it up by telling him where to find his answer, so it doesn't affect the rest of us later.
Alternatively, perhaps the mods could delete these threads entirely. And while they're at it, if they could improve the search feature, that'd be great too, because it totally sucks right now. Can't search "SMS" or "3G" or anything else under three letters, which can be kind of a big deal around here. Doesn't have quotation function. Lots of room for improvement.
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Google Search Link:
EDIT: Gave wrong link!!! sorry
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=allhttp://www.google.com/advanced_search?q= +site:http://wiki.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
BTW: what was the problem you were searching for to make you this pissed off? everyone gets the n00b stuff, it jus happens. ill try to help u
Bennec83, your link goes to the wiki specific search instead of the forum search...is that on purpose? Just trying to see if you know something I don't--like a better way to search!
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A fine example of an INCONSTRUCTIVE answer, if you know better, why didnt u suggest the google search to him smart arse?
Check my signature for a link
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A fine example of an inconstructive answer? That's unpossible.
Wow, that search link works MUCH better. Thanks a lot to Fitipaldi1 and bennec83 who linked it! And I did find what I was looking for. Just took longer than it needed to. Thanks again.
inbelievable at least
SPOON!!
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A fine example of an inconstructive answer? That's unpossible.
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[FONT="]Sorry its 4am and I am providing links to Google, for those who don’t actually know how to do a Google search!!
I do sincerely and whole heartedly apologise for the fact that my articulation, vocabulary and grammar don’t meet your highest of standards, but then I was publicly educated.[/FONT]
support my solution
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support my solution[/size]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1389723&postcount=5
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A link that doesnt work? i dont understand?
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A link that doesnt work? i dont understand?
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i fix it smart ass
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[FONT="]Sorry its 4am and I am providing links to Google, for those who don’t actually know how to do a Google search!!
I do sincerely and whole heartedly apologise for the fact that my articulation, vocabulary and grammar don’t meet your highest of standards, but then I was publicly educated.[/FONT]
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Don't worry... It's 3am in my time, and US Public Schools isn't much better!
I have to say that its not just this forum that people insist on stating the obvious e.g. use the search.
I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of if you haven't got anything constructive or useful to say then don't say it.. e.g. don't be a smart @rse, don't post "use the Search" if it winds you up then ignore it and look away...
Is it working? mine doesn't return any results.
mine neither!
Its defo broke!
yep, no more searching here either...
I think I broke it, I did a search for "install Vista on Pocket PC" then it stopped working...
Not to worry I found what I was looking for.
Thanks.
yep, very few results when searching. not very useful that way :-/
Any prevision when it will be fixed??
Yes, I just did a search and it only returned results going back to Feb. 11. It is a topic that has definitely been discussed prior to that. Guess I'll wait and hope it gets fixed.
http://www.google.co.uk/advanced_se...-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&as_qdr=all
i sent this to the feedback form on the site many moons ago, but apparently nobody has taken notice.
Has anyone else noticed this??
If you are not logged in,
The quick search (click search so the box comes up with "show threads", "show posts", and advanced search options) is pointless.
If you try top search with it, you will alwasy receive an error. Because you have to answer the no spam question via the advanced search page. Whats the point of having the quick search in this case?
I propose the admin either gets rid of quick search (have it go right to advanced search), OR add a box in the quick search for the spam question .. for guests that aren't logged in.
I know it has frustrated me more than once!!
thanks for listening
Hi Guys,
We switched the search function on 12-02 as posted in news.
Could you give me some feedback on if this improved the search or not?
Concerning the nospam issue it should only be an issue for unregistered or not logged in users, if you have problems as a logged in user please let me know asap.
Greetz,
Flar
as just posted in the thread in news: search has been switched back too fulltext boolean which is what we we're using before, we're looking into other alternatives..
Greetz,
Flar
Ahh, great, thkx a lot for fixing it
Thanks for switching it back. It's much easier to find things again.
Ditto to the two opinions above me.
My opinion on other search options:
I frequently also use google site search to find posts on XDA.... I find it works very well for me (so well I have set up a keyword shortcut in firefox. All I hvae to do is type "xda " and the terms i am looking for in the address bar, and hit enter.)
this is what i used to type into the google box when I did it manually:
site:forum.xda-developers.com the keywords your looking for
This is especially true when I am looking for terms less than 3 characters, the normal search won't work.
Maybe you guys should consider offering direct access to a google site search in addition to the boolean?
(( An example is how Webmasterworld does it. They go two steps further with a yahoo and MSN. In fact, 3rd party is their only search system:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/searchform.cgi
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well the forum search was working good for me yesterday..and today all i get is the Google search "Search XDA-Developers using Google" choice.. i like the older forum search..
am i doing something wrong?
ha! I thought they would use my suggestion in addition to, and not in place of, the normal search.
But just to confirm w/ the poster above me .. yes it seems that is the only search option now, your not doing anything wrong.
I dont mind using google search, in general it can find topics on here pretty good, but it has limitations.
For example, if the site search is turned off, you cant search individual threads. Some threads on here get VERY big, and without the "search this thread" function there are going to be plenty of questions asked and answered multiple times in each thread, which leads to annoyed people saying the question has already been answered, etc.
With that said, I really do hope the site search does come back for this reason.
i concur for the same reasons. +1 vote for that
Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?
Well...
I can think in 3 search criteria:
1. Go to the upgrading section of your device
2. use Wiki to find all cooked and shiped ROM´s
3. Use the XDA fttp
Windza said:
Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?
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A few months back I actually dug through the advanced search code in vBulletin (trust me, it's terrible code). I may be mistaken, but I believe that it doesn't allow keywords of 3 or less letters unless there's extra parameters (like boolean operators and more keywords). Don't hold me on that, I'd have to look again to be sure.
One of these days if I remember, I'll go hunting through the code again to confirm that and update the wiki page I wrote (link is in my signature) with the answer to this.
mikechannon said:
Indeed words of less than 4 letters will not search. BUT if you click on advanced searh then choose search using Google at the top, it will search for 3 letter words.
Or you could use this:
Search XDA-Devs Forums or Wiki
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The problem with using google in this case is that it's not context aware of the forum threads. I think he's looking to see a large list of the different roms. With google, he's going to get search results including several different pages per rom and no way to sort the results. It would be faster to just click next through each page of the rom dev forum for the selected phone...which is almost as good as getting the intended search results from searching for [ROM]....
It makes me wonder how hard it would be to patch the issue in vBulletin and get better search results than Google can produce.
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It makes me wonder how hard it would be to patch the issue in vBulletin and get better search results than Google can produce.
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If everybody can do the same thing as google did, google will not be google, I mean, the #1 internet company in the world.
I am just wondering that can anybody produce a code like the search link on this page.[Edit: I want to add several more sites as searching range to that one, can you figure it out?]
wg5566 said:
If everybody can do the same thing as google did, google will not be google, I mean, the #1 internet company in the world.
I am just wondering that can anybody produce a code like the search link on this page.[Edit: I want to add several more sites as searching range to that one, can you figure it out?]
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I wasn't talking about producing a better search engine, only fixing the known bugs. Things like the incorrect handling of sorting by relevancy (as detailed in the wiki page I wrote), the 4+ letter requirement on search terms, and maybe even giving it grouping capability. The first two aren't even hard to change, though the 4+ letter requirement is performance based, so it might be good to re-engineer some stuff. The grouping is trickier, but not even remotely an expert-level task (though it too has some performance implications).
Google doesn't have the know-how to separate or understand the context of searching only a certain group (or set of groups). It doesn't know how to search ONLY the topic and not the text body (or vice versa), etc. All of that data is separate and stuck in the database in different fields, which makes it WAY easier to search. We can have better search results than google because we have better access to the data, we just have to work through vBulletin's very simple code.
Yes agree. It is a shame that I found sometimes (or many times?) using the integrated search engine is not as good as just using 'search site by google'.
In my opinion, the 4letter+ issue is not as important as others. It is only reasonable to set such a reqirement and in most cases we don't need to search a word with less than 4 letters.
But I feel like lucky that I asked my question to the right person. Would you please spend a little time on help some clue for the question in my last post? Thanks in advance.
It will be wonderful if we can set google to search on limited range only like: xda-devs, ppcgeeks, msdn, pda4x, ppcfreeware, etc.
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Yes agree. It is a shame that I found sometimes (or many times?) using the integrated search engine is not as good as just using 'search site by google'.
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I think it depends on what is being searched for. Most RL friends know me for instantly hitting google to search on almost anything, but for this site I actually do use the integrated search most of the time. A well formed search here is still better than most results on google unless you need to use some pretty advanced searches that only Google can understand.
wg5566 said:
In my opinion, the 4letter+ issue is not as important as others. It is only reasonable to set such a reqirement and in most cases we don't need to search a word with less than 4 letters.
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GPS, WM6, SIM, GSM, SD, ROM, CAB
Just to name a few....
wg5566 said:
But I feel like lucky that I asked my question to the right person. Would you please spend a little time on help some clue for the question in my last post? Thanks in advance.
It will be wonderful if we can set google to search on limited range only like: xda-devs, ppcgeeks, msdn, pda4x, ppcfreeware, etc.
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I'm about to pick on you just a bit...
Did you consider searching Google for 'Google Custom Search'? Fourth result down there's a step-by-step guide that explains it easily and also pushes the value of it when combined with AdSense. This is a search thread after all
I admit, I'm glad to have stumbled onto setting up that feature with adsense because I would actually like to use it just for my own site I'm setting up shortly.
Thanks a lot, I got it.
One more noob question(web design is apparently not my area), can I set it in a local page like this, bcz I don't own a website myself? [Edit: Never Mind, Got It!]
Later on after setup your site, pls pm me a link.
Tx.
Edit: Just tried to create my own search engine, take a look here
Edit: Wonderful! Yeah! So happy today.
Windza said:
Is there any reason why neither a keyword or tag search for "[ROM]" (without quotes) yields zero results?
If I want to find a list of all [ROM] titled/tagged threads to look at the range of ROM's available; what is the best way to go about it?
Am I being a noob or is there a fundamental search flaw?
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It yields zero results because the word is too short.
Searching for ROM version #s
I just ran into a search problem myself. I was searching for radio version 1.14.25.05. The google search took me to a long thread, so I thought I'd just search for "1.14.25.05". It didn't return any results, so I assumed this version wasn't there. It wasn't until I asked for help on a new thread that I was embarrassed by someone who told me it was on post #2. I had incorrectly trusted search. With version #s being so important to what xda-developers is all about, having a robust thread search is critical. Any thoughts on possible improvements? Are there settings in this software that could be changed?
John
Searching for a 3-letter result... "YES" we can
So basically, everyone says to use "search" on XDA devs to look for answers for your questions, but nobody says "you should use google search if any word you're looking for is three letters or less"..... like SMS.
It's frustrating, following the rules, being told to follow the rules, then finding out following the rules didn't work anyways.
Fixing this nonsense would be great. Even removing the 'built-in forum search' entirely....? just a thought.
Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe
pimpmydragon said:
So basically, everyone says to use "search" on XDA devs to look for answers for your questions, but nobody says "you should use google search if any word you're looking for is three letters or less"..... like SMS.
It's frustrating, following the rules, being told to follow the rules, then finding out following the rules didn't work anyways.
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The rule is there to prevent people from asking questions that can be answered by either search engine we use. For a rule to work it needs to be short and to the point, no one will even try to read the rules if every rule is explained in detail.
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Fixing this nonsense would be great. Even removing the 'built-in forum search' entirely....? just a thought.
Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe
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We're well aware that the vB search engine isn't perfect but neither is the one from google. That is why we give you the option to use both.
I'm well aware that this can be confusing at times but simply searching for "how to search xda-developers.com?" would have given you this thread wich explains in the first post that you can use google and that we implemented it because the vB search doesn't allow words with less than 4 characters.
Best regards,
Flar
Site admin
p.s. I always use the search in the navbar first I noticed later that my example search string gives really crappy results in the vb search.
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Apart from that, thanks for hosting an amazing site, full of talented, hard-working people and their efforts... if you can find them hehe
we are only a PM away.
Flar said:
The rule is there to prevent people from asking questions that can be answered by either search engine we use. For a rule to work it needs to be short and to the point, no one will even try to read the rules if every rule is explained in detail.
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I believe many users never read site rules. Once we register on any web-site, there always be a rule or a terms-of-use, and people's habit would be just click on 'Agree' without a glance at the content, since they are all similiar.
But we have a way to force new users to learn how to search and view the site. Simply change the rule to: New users can not post within say first 50 online hours after registered. Then they have to view and search first, especially if they came with some question or urgent problem to be solved.I think Vbulletin has the function of online-time statistics.
Just an idea for consideration, I don't know it will be practical or not.
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I believe many users never read site rules.
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The Forum Rules announcement has >51,000 views since march... not bad
Dave
Yes, looks like the situation is better. It works especially by continuous remindment everuwhere. What about number of new users since then?
Edit: Remindment like this works, thanks for everybody's effort. A further thought is: If everybody already read it, but still a lot don't follow it. That may be caused by some human nature for urgently need an answer for his question. Noticed MODs' effort like your goodself to execute the rule, it helped.
Sorry i'm not quoting people here, i'm typing this on my phone.
First, the number of people reading the rules is far less than the number of new users, which doesn't even account for the long time users. Not that it matters hugely, the rules only truly matter to people posting, which is realistically isn't too bad.
Regarding the use of two search engines, it can be seen in a bad way, or it can be seen as having two different tools instead of just one. Neither is perfect, neither is better (opinions and experiences may differ), and they can often be used interchangably, but they are not the same and should be used differently.
Min 4 letter search is awful for a tech forum. No idea why such a known forum hasnt found a work around.
Theres no way around how terrible it is. As mentioned before the sheer number of issues that arise with things that start or 3 letters long renders search impotent.
MMS/USB are two major problems Ive had recently and couldnt do a search to find an answer. Of course that results in yet another thread on the topic being created that is probably needless.
Google search isnt forum specific so it too is too cumbersome to be useful.
Orb , MMS ,SMS , USB, APK , API I mean over half the "talk" we use for Phones involves 3 letter acronyms. Not even beginning to mention something like 1.6 , 2.0 when getting spcifics on those 3 letter acronyms.
Am I the only one that thinks so? I see all these threads being quickly responded to saying "use the search before posting, thread closed, etc.. ". Well if search worked halfway decent on this site these threads would be unnecessary. I'm sure a good percentage are noobs being lazy, but for those of us actually looking for legit info, well, good luck. Maybe it's just xda's mobile app search function. I have not used the websites search on the full site to compare. Again, is it just me? Somebody help me out here..
Example: there is a thread asking for the .Apk file for teeter. A mod jumped in saying use the search, and locked the thread. I'm interested in this game aswell, so I used the search. And nothing..
What am I missing?
Sent @ 04:20
Just did a search for teeter apk and recieved loads of results, many of which detail where to get it from and how to install it
Even starting a new thread with teeter apk in it's title brings up a list of similar threads.
Something is deft wrong then. Just did the same search (teeter. Apk) and got nothing but random threads that are fiftyleven pages long. Guess u just need patience and free time to find what you need.. Oh well
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A tedious search is worth not getting flamed for not lol
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You just have to know how to use it. Kind of like Google search. Know what you want or need and be able to use terms or phrases to get you results. I joined xda last year and since then I haven't had any problems with the search feature. I either find the solution using search or figure it out on my own. I really don't understand how people mess up some times. Usually devs explain things really well, to the point where they are holding your hand. I love xda and couldn't imagine an android experience w/o it. Thanks xda!
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i'm a new member n just flashed my phone with a custom rom. now my phone has incoming call delay where the phone only starts ringing after 2-3 times ring tones at the other side. n since i'm a new member, i cant post to development thread. i need to have posted at least 8-10 posts to other general threads only i can post to that thread. i thought i can faster post 8-10 posts so i can ask for help but there is a 5 min delays between post for new member.
i tried the search function, many results returned but i cant find a solution n i urgently need to ask for solution in the proper thread. but this is only my 3rd or 4th post.
i'm sorry if i complained.
kinda frustrated to that i have to randomly post to get off the 10 posts limit...
or is there any better way?
@ACis0014.. it's nothing at all like google search... Not even remotely similar. With google, you type your query and you have answers damn near immediately. Here, it looks as though it brings up threads that your search query might be mentioned in and I guess it's up to us to flip thru all the hundreds of pages and posts to find out if it's even the answer we're looking for.
And yes, god forbid we need help right away with an issue and post a question about it. Oh man, it's like burning their flag or something. It is what it is tho I guess. One of those things where you either deal with it, or move on..
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I mean I am not here to convince you, that's not my job. You can believe whatever you want. But as I mentioned before I have never had a problem. It's also a matter of working to find your answering. do you expect everything to be handed to you? Rooting and modifying your phone takes work and patience apparently you don't have either one or just aren't trying. If you can't "deal" with the search than stay with stock or visit another website. Personally I don't ask for help until I have exhausted all other options. There's also a sense of pride in rooting and modifying knowing you did something by yourself without really having much experience beforehand. The devs and members here are wonderful who work their asses off for themselves and are courteous enough to share their work without really asking for money. At the most they ask for users to press a damn "thank you" button. Whoop di do! The only real complaint I have about xda is that some members post these stupid, immature comments or act like total douchbags or some think they are the damn xda police who are here to shape everybody up. Thank god my fellow mytouch 4g users are pretty good for the most part!
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Lol. You're really trying to earn that xda brown nose badge aren't ya..
Look, The sites itself is fine, I've learned plenty and have done my share of research.I'm just talking about the search function and also the elitists here who think everyone who posts something has to post at a professional developers level. im not talking about your precious xda forum and its devs. This place is the best of the best.. Relax..
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Don't use . in the search, only use keywords, so: teeter apk
If you do get stuck with no results that give you the answer, then if one of the results is similar then try posting in there to bump it back to the top.
It's also a good idea (tends to quieten down the "Search n00b!" bunch) to start the post with "I did try to search but came up with nothing useful, so if someone can just direct me to a thread they know about that'd be much appreciated, anyway, my problem is..."
Well, dunno what is up with the search here. I am pretty sure the stock vBulleting search has options to use logical operators such as AND/OR in search terms (even accessible via checkboxes).
Why is it disabled here?
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Don't use . in the search, only use keywords, so: teeter apk
If you do get stuck with no results that give you the answer, then if one of the results is similar then try posting in there to bump it back to the top.
It's also a good idea (tends to quieten down the "Search n00b!" bunch) to start the post with "I did try to search but came up with nothing useful, so if someone can just direct me to a thread they know about that'd be much appreciated, anyway, my problem is..."
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Thanks for the tip.. I usually just google my question and add xda in the query and it usually will give me a list of specific posts and threads containing what I'm looking for.. example: (teeter apk xda) i find this much easier and faster than the forum search..
And also.. Yes, I would like things "just handed to me" when I have a question or problem.. That's what the Internet is for!!! In fact, I think the word Internet is Latin for instant gratification. Or something.. Just sayin..
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I think I can live with this kind of search function
most of the forum's search function is like this..
doktornotor said:
Well, dunno what is up with the search here. I am pretty sure the stock vBulleting search has options to use logical operators such as AND/OR in search terms (even accessible via checkboxes).
Why is it disabled here?
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Hmmmm, no answer?
Maybe just hook up a custom Google search here instead? Would work a whole lot better.
doktornotor said:
Hmmmm, no answer?
Maybe just hook up a custom Google search here instead? Would work a whole lot better.
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Suggesting something here apparently appears about as productive as screaming out for help in the middle of a deep forest. Maybe this sucky crippled search is a "feature", exactly as the crippled "report post" functionality.
Silently ignoring user feedback about apparently broken functionality is really NOT appreciated. The issue will not disappear if you ignore it.
The truly annoying thing about search on this site is half of the time when you want to use it, it is either temporarily disabled or otherwise not working.
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The truly annoying thing about search on this site is half of the time when you want to use it, it is either temporarily disabled or otherwise not working.
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I made a short "usability" analysis of the search feature here. Well guys, this way, you would not succeed even 10 years ago, when Google was just starting. Uh.
See below:
I gave up using the search function on the site and in the worst case scenario i search the forum manually (or use google directly)
The search function works fine for me. If you dont know how to use it optimally, thats not the same thing as it sucking
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What's wrong with it?
Think about your search query perhaps?
I have a throttle limit too on search People who find this an issue are probably not looking at the results generated - remember the options in advanced search, for whole post searching etc
You can also use google, forum search isn't great any way..
For Google:
Search item site:forum.xda-developers.com
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For example:
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy...418bdb68383d95&biw=1280&bih=719&pf=p&pdl=3000
I only get this when searching inside a thread and not the whole forum; the whole forum search automagicly gets done via Google anyway.
The problem I have, that I guess the original poster is mentioning, is how can I specify to search in a specific thread in Google? I don't think you can which is why the 20 second wait can be a problem?
never had problem with that,
i think because of a huge amount of people connecting to this forum and if there wouldnt be that 20 second waiting time whole forum would be laggy....
my opinion dont punch me...
Percz said:
I only get this when searching inside a thread and not the whole forum; the whole forum search automagicly gets done via Google anyway.
The problem I have, that I guess the original poster is mentioning, is how can I specify to search in a specific thread in Google? I don't think you can which is why the 20 second wait can be a problem?
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You cannot search a thread or subforum via Google. Limitation of how google lets you specify locations to search
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MuF123 said:
sometimes you can't remember what you want to search.
e.g. you want to find your own post where you mentioned something about "cpu throttling" (just for example).
but you can't remember what words did you use so you search for "cpu downscaling", "cpu underclocking", "cpu overheating", "cpu lower frequency", "cpu heat problem", "cpu throttling" YAY I found it.
and it would take me like 20 seconds in google, but under this limitations it would take like 3 minutes.
this limitation isn't encouraging users to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&t=0m37s , just sayin'
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If you filtered by only posts from yourself, especially if you knew the thread, it should be quite easy.
It's a balancing act between performance and convenience. Some people hammer it constantly with nonsense. That's why you cannot search for silly stuff like "ROM".
We are working to improve search and something is in the pipelines. I can't give a date yet, but please know we know theres limitations in the current system and have been working to address them in a future rollout.
The search timer has been dropped to 15 seconds. We are within a week or so of having a new (and much improved) search system in place.
Hope that helps!
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15 seconds is already fast. other forums require you to wait up to a minute before the next search.