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Suggested words DO NOT work with JPN KB

i have a softbank X01HT (Japanese HTC TyTN)
the auto text or suggested words (pops up with 4 suggested words after you press a couple letters) no longer works once i switch to the new KB layout
you change the KB mapping from 20409 and 10409 to 30411 in the registry. this works great since the , and . are correct as well as all the symbols but i lose the auto suggested words that usually popup
does anyone know how to get the suggested words back? im running schaps 3.60a WM6 image.

just changed the registry setting to the original settings and the suggested words automatically worked again. so it has to be something with this japanese keyboard layout that prevents it from working.

I'd like to try this out so I can see if I can replicate the behavior. Can you post the location of the registry settings and the original settings for each?
Thx.
John

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
"Layout"="197649

Sorry, I meant the original registry settings that come with the schaps rom. The 179649 seems to be the "fix" for the X01HT keyboard.
(edit) Okay, I seem to have a clue here. I have the keyboard correctly inputting all symbols and the auto-suggest is working. Here are the settings I have to make it work:
Location Keyname Keydata Valuetype
HKCU/keyboard layout/ Default e0010411 REG_SZ
HKCU/keyboard layout/Preload Default e0010409 REG_SZ
HKCU/keyboard layout/Preload/1 Default e0010409 REG_SZ
HKLM/Software/OEM/Querty Layout 30411 REG_DWORD (Hexadecimal)
(edit) Crap, this won't work for me because it somehow prevents my Japanese IME from inputting English text through the sip. Anyone out there know the fix for that? We can't be the only two people who have noticed this.

Suggested Words and Auto Completion

Hi Guys,
I would like to know if it's possible for the Touch Pro 2 screen keyboard to support word suggestion (suggwords) and dynamic auto completion just like in the "good old" SIPs from days of TytnII. eg when i type "goo", I would like "good morning" to appear as a suggested word based on my past use.
I like the layout of the HTC stock Full Qwerty keyboard but much prefer the old system over the new xt9 system.
Any advise on whether and how the above can be achieved would be greatly appreciated!
cheers,

anyone?

I have the same issue. I would love to have the auto complete and suggested words working on my TP2

Use the Advanced Configuration Tool - works
http://www.touchxperience.com/en/advanced-configuration-tool.html

Solution
Hi all,
I had the same problem and could get rid of it via HD Tweak tool, which you can find here: HD Tweak
What I did was simply "20. Keyboard (SIP)" options, I have disabled 20.1 - Automatic display popup, enabled 20.2 T9 Mode and 20.3 Suggest Words to 4 words; and restart.
Now I get 4 recommendations easily when I am sending and sms etc. just like the old days in Kaiser; Works like a charm
I hope it helps.

zxcvbnmnbvcxz said:
Hi Guys,
I would like to know if it's possible for the Touch Pro 2 screen keyboard to support word suggestion (suggwords) and dynamic auto completion just like in the "good old" SIPs from days of TytnII. eg when i type "goo", I would like "good morning" to appear as a suggested word based on my past use.
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Diable eT9. Enable COMP IME. This is a registry edit.
Go to: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\layouts\e0010409
Edit: Ime File = \Windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
That will bring you back to the good old word suggestion and dynamic auto completion.
Hope this helps.

thank you thank you thank you!
this ##"¤%#¤ was driving me nuts!
i can write again

stupid me i forgot to write down the original settings for this. Could some please look in their registry & please tell me what the default values for this are?
*edit* never mind i found them:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\et9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : eT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
*Warning*
Changing this registry to COMP IME disables your "SYM' hardware keyboard option

weenween said:
Diable eT9. Enable COMP IME. This is a registry edit.
Go to: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\layouts\e0010409
Edit: Ime File = \Windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
That will bring you back to the good old word suggestion and dynamic auto completion.
Hope this helps.
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Many thanks, but only one question:
I use frequently as input method the letter recognizer in my HTC Touch HD. With your modifications in the registry, I saw a list of 4 words suggested dinamically (which changes) when introducing one or another letter.
BUT, when I introduce a word that is not in the dictionary (a technical medical word, for example) in one appointment or SMS, and I want to introduce again (in another appointment or SMS) the first two or three letters again, this word is not suggested. It seems like this word is not incorporated in the custom dictionary.
I remember this new word introduced in one appointment or a SMS, was suggested when I introduce the first letters as one of 4 of the list, in my old QTEK s200 (HTC Prophet).
Do you know if is necessary any registry modifications to obtain this feature?
Best Regards and many thanks

can some send me compime.dll?
I don't see compime.dll in the Windows folder on my Tilt2. att probably removed it.

That HD Tweak worked great. When I do the reg edit on my Tmo TP2 I lose the space bar on the software keyboard...Tj

motoq9h said:
can some send me compime.dll?
I don't see compime.dll in the Windows folder on my Tilt2. att probably removed it.
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its not, nor has ever been in my \Windows directory for my Tmo TP2, yet the registry tweak still worked. Maybe its just not viewable, even though I have it to show all files

xnifex said:
its not, nor has ever been in my \Windows directory for my Tmo TP2, yet the registry tweak still worked. Maybe its just not viewable, even though I have it to show all files
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Thanks. I just confirmed that the file is present and hidden. I tried this hack but it completely messed up the Hard keyboard on the Tilt2. Reverting back..

weenween said:
Diable eT9. Enable COMP IME. This is a registry edit.
Go to: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\layouts\e0010409
Edit: Ime File = \Windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
That will bring you back to the good old word suggestion and dynamic auto completion.
Hope this helps.
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I tried the above and was able to get the auto complete (the person I want to send txt or mail too), but for this:
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
XT9SupportMSSip was already set to 0. I still cant get auto suggest to work.
I tried setting WordCompletion to 1 from 0, but that did work either.
Anyone get it working? How?
***UPDATE*** Never mind, I used AdvanceConfigTool to set word suggest to 4 words. It was set to 0, so I got 0.
HAPPY NOW!

RojasTKD said:
I tried the above and was able to get the auto complete (the person I want to send txt or mail too), but for this:
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
XT9SupportMSSip was already set to 0. I still cant get auto suggest to work.
I tried setting WordCompletion to 1 from 0, but that did work either.
Anyone get it working? How?
***UPDATE*** Never mind, I used AdvanceConfigTool to set word suggest to 4 words. It was set to 0, so I got 0.
HAPPY NOW!
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Which version of TP2 do u have? Tmobile? Doing this change on ATT's Tilt2 completely screwed up the HW Keyboard, and I had to reset to factory..

motoq9h said:
Which version of TP2 do u have? Tmobile? Doing this change on ATT's Tilt2 completely screwed up the HW Keyboard, and I had to reset to factory..
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I did this on my Tilt 2 and did not have any issues with my HW keyboard.
I only wish I could edit the fallowing options:
1. Number of letter before it Auto Suggest a word.
2. Set it to not automatically insert a space after I select a suggested word.
Anyone know how to do this?
Aside from that it works great.
The first time I did it, the next day it gave my a keyboard without a spacebar, it had a ".com" & "/" key instead. I did a Clear Storage and did it all again and it works fine now.
UPDATE: Well it was working until I enter my owner info and while inputting my phone number the keyboard switched to a number keypad and now it stuck there. I can't get the regular keyboard to pop back up.
This is getting frustrating!

TrekkerJmm said:
That HD Tweak worked great. When I do the reg edit on my Tmo TP2 I lose the space bar on the software keyboard...Tj
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OK after a few days with HD Tw for some reason on my T-mo TP2 the software keyboard goes to a number only keyboard with the letters P & W so I have to put it back the original way and restart the phone then go back into HD Tw and redo the settings again anyone else have this problem? ...Tj

Best I can tell when the reg is edited to replace eT9 with the original Auto suggest & Auto Complete once the number keyboard come up, it wont go away.
this is a real bummer, I like the nice Touch input keyboard BUT I much prefer the original Auto suggest & Auto Complete. SO far I can't find a way to keep both.

RojasTKD said:
Best I can tell when the reg is edited to replace eT9 with the original Auto suggest & Auto Complete once the number keyboard come up, it wont go away.
this is a real bummer, I like the nice Touch input keyboard BUT I much prefer the original Auto suggest & Auto Complete. SO far I can't find a way to keep both.
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EXACTLY my problem... I found out that is wont switch unless I need to select a number on my calender otherwise it lasts a couple days. I wonder if this will do this with all Rom's or just T-Mo...Tj

TrekkerJmm said:
EXACTLY my problem... I found out that is wont switch unless I need to select a number on my calender otherwise it lasts a couple days. I wonder if this will do this with all Rom's or just T-Mo...Tj
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I have a Tilt 2 and running AT&T's stock ROM. For now I'm sticking with the eT9 as to keep an actual usable SW keyboard. Hope there a solution soon.

Word Completion missing on T-Mobile TP2

I have an HTC Touch Pro2 from T-Mobile running WinMo 6.1. It seems that under Settings, Personal, Input, the "Word Completion" tab is missing between "Input Method" and "Options" that was there on my previous WinMo 5 device. Is this feature missing from WinMo 6.1 in general, or has it been disabled by T-Mo? if it's been disabled, is there a way to enable it?

yeah it's missing in my Tmo TP2 too. I do miss the auto correction feature that was on that tab.

edit : I did not reading the message right sorry

mloamiller said:
I have an HTC Touch Pro2 from T-Mobile running WinMo 6.1. It seems that under Settings, Personal, Input, the "Word Completion" tab is missing between "Input Method" and "Options" that was there on my previous WinMo 5 device. Is this feature missing from WinMo 6.1 in general, or has it been disabled by T-Mo? if it's been disabled, is there a way to enable it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4014852&postcount=6

tkalli said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4014852&postcount=6
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now will that enable the tab to change the settings in the Input settings or just enable the options? I want the word completion, but not the word suggestion.

tkali is right- they are one and the same. Word completion and word correction are both linked to disabling T9
http://www.fuzemobility.com/autocorrect-and-autocompletion-solved/

Quick question about the reg edit. I havetriededitthe first valeu but it tells me access is denied. Is there something I am missing?

I made the registry edits mentioned in the other thread (copied below for reference) but I still don't have the missing Word Completion tab even after a soft reset.
From the other thread referenced above:
Diable eT9. Enable COMP IME. This is a registry edit.
Go to: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\layouts\e001 0409
Edit: Ime File = \Windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
That will bring you back to the good old word suggestion and dynamic auto completion.

yeah unfortunately it doesn't bring back the word completion tab, which i was hoping.

What exactly does it do then? I didn't notice any change.

it should enable it so that when you're typing, it'll give you 4 (changeable) suggested words as well as auto-correct some words. (type comming & it'll change to coming)
I like the auto-correct feature on the Tilt/MDA because you could type contractions without the apostrophe & the phone would auto-correct it for you. I hate the word suggestion & always had that turned off.
I don't know why they'd take this tab & feature out of the input settings/phone.

I'm still not getting any suggested words; I used to get them when using the Letter Recognizer (WinMo 5), but I don't get them with that or the QWERTY. I may have inadvertently set the # of words to suggest to 0; do you happen to know the registry setting for that?
I have a friend who has a WinMo 6.1 phone, but not from T-Mobile, and the Word Suggestion tab is visible. Seems there must be a setting for that somewhere that T-Mo disabled for some reason.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your question, but I got Word Completion/Suggestion working just fine on my T-Mo Touch Pro 2 by pressing the XT9 button on the soft keyboard
Doesn't work while using the hardware keyboard though, which may be what you're asking about

yeah, we're talking about the function working with the hardware keyboard

Gotcha! Ignore me then

OK got the word completion to work but now I have no "space" instead I have ".com" there. Anyone have this problem?...Thanks
Does anyone have the factory settings?

I was actually referring to the on-screen input methods, not the slide-out keyboard. On my previous WinMo 5 device, the suggested words appeared regardless of which method I used - Letter Recognizer, QWERTY, etc. That's what was I looking for.
I also discovered what I did wrong - I had an "n" instead of an "m" in the name of the DLL. I corrected that, did a soft-reset and Viola! I have the suggested words now. It's hard to distinguish an "n" and "m" on that small screen.
The tab is still missing under Settings, Input - I would still like to have that visible if anyone figures out how to enable it.
Thanks for the help.

does anyone have the qwerty reg settings, now i no longer have that function all i have is regular keyboard or when qwerty is selected i have just numbers...thanks

Problem solved T-mo Word completion/no space bar
OK here is what I did on my T-mobile TP2 to get word completion working with the space bar (Mine (space bar) disappeared after I did the reg hack) I put these settings in and now I have word completion and the space bar back.
I went to
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\layouts\e001 0409
Edit: Ime File = \Windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = eT9 IME
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
Now on MY T-mo TP2 I have word Comp and a space bar also. Hope this helps someone...Tj

@TrekkerJmm does SYM on your hardware keyboard still work? (ALT + ,)

Touch Input problem

occasionally the built in keyboard shows me a different than expected keyboard. For example, durring txt messages, it would show the phone keypad "with the 1-9, P, w keys" or it would show the internet one "with .com button". I tryed looking through the registry for it, but its a mess tryn to find the key that was changed. i have the touch input v2.0 (build 35555) on the AT&T rom.
If anyone else has had this problem and knows how to solve it, the help would be amazing.
p.s. on my previous phone, I had the VITO Zoomboard, but i like the way this new keyboard is in how it changes..but not when it changes to something that isn't appropriate for the given event

Did you install the classic word completion or word correction cab? If so,
GoodThings2Life said:
When enabling Classic Word Correction, Opera users may experience an issue in which the soft keyboard gets stuck in web or numeric mode. To avoid/correct this, click on the web page instead of the address bar before exiting Opera.
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I installed the disable xt9 file which changes registry values?
Just now I used the resco registry explorer to extract my reg files and found which keys changed:
=== normal keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000000
=== web keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
=== numeric keypad ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
now I gata find a program which will make an exe or lnk to change that value of the reg

I have the exact same issue. The phone seems to get stuck on the number keypad with the W and P and will not go back to the full qwerty.
Soft resets do nothing to reset keyboard. I did the following edits to get word suggestion:
Go to: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\layouts\e001 0409
Edit: Ime File = \Windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
Otherwise I have done no registry edits except removing proxy info for Opera to get it to work on Rogers.
This is most annoying so any suggestions or help would be appreciated.
I have tried using opera page before exiting but it still comes up as a number pad.

Applies to any HTC Touch Input 2.0 keyboard
baudac said:
Did you install the classic word completion or word correction cab? If so,
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Thanks for this ... you really helped me save a lot of time!

I find that it will also flip to this input style when trying to add a contact. Once it does this I then have to go and start opera, touch the address bar and the input changes back to qwerty. Then I can exit opera. Its kind of a pain but at least I know of the work around.

thanks for the opera info - I did not install any completion cab, but this did fix my keyboard issue.

I just got this problem today. I have yet to be able to change it back.
I can tell you that this occurred in the Windows Edit Contacts menu (that is to say, go to HTC's "Edit Contacts" and select "More").
At first it gave me a simple numbers and arrow keys only keypad. I soft reset and it changed nothing. I then decided to retrace my steps to try to fix it, so I went back to the edit contacts screen and fiddled around, very shortly it switched to the keyboard as described by the OP. Numeric keys, parenthesis, a 'P' and a 'W', etc... stuff used in phone numbers, I suppose. I haven't been able to get it back to a full keyboard, yet. I've messed around with the keyboard options, switched to and back from other keyboard choices and got nothing.
Anyone else want to investigate this further with us?

xperia
zyphuris55 said:
I installed the disable xt9 file which changes registry values?
Just now I used the resco registry explorer to extract my reg files and found which keys changed:
=== normal keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000000
=== web keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
=== numeric keypad ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
now I gata find a program which will make an exe or lnk to change that value of the reg
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This worked for me.. The opera trick did not

SlyMaelstrom said:
I just got this problem today. I have yet to be able to change it back.
I can tell you that this occurred in the Windows Edit Contacts menu (that is to say, go to HTC's "Edit Contacts" and select "More").
At first it gave me a simple numbers and arrow keys only keypad. I soft reset and it changed nothing. I then decided to retrace my steps to try to fix it, so I went back to the edit contacts screen and fiddled around, very shortly it switched to the keyboard as described by the OP. Numeric keys, parenthesis, a 'P' and a 'W', etc... stuff used in phone numbers, I suppose. I haven't been able to get it back to a full keyboard, yet. I've messed around with the keyboard options, switched to and back from other keyboard choices and got nothing.Anyone else want to investigate this further with us?
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Same problem for me, so I did the Opera method.
It definitely originated (for me) in "edit contacts".
I used the stock Opera (9?). I did try to just tap the google search bar with no luck.
Just click on the address bar after you start the browser and it will allow you to switch.
*Non-registry changin' noob method*

[SOLVED] How to turn on Word Completion for Full QWERTY keyboard

Hi guys!
I'm trying to turn on Word Completion for the full QWERTY keyboard, but I cannot find how to. I know that you can toggle Word Completion through Personal => Input => Options, but only for XT9 and the Compact QWERTY. I would like to enable it for the full QWERTY.
Does anybody know how?
Thanks for any help in advance!
Kind regards,
Piet

I'd very much like to know how to do that as well. Tried in the past, but it didn't seem possible via the standard settings.

I found the answer myself!
I found the answer myself! The trick is to change 2 registry keys.
Change these two registry keys under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\ Control\Layouts\e0010409
- Change the value of Ime File from \windows\eT9ime.dll to \windows\compime.dll
- Change the value of Layout Text from ET9 IME to COMP IME
Perform a soft reset and you wil now see that word completion works in the default language of your device.
You could replace the dictionary used (\Windows\Mssp2.lex) by one of your preferred language to change this.
For the Dutch users I have attached a CAB file which does this all for you. This is for WWE devices and you end up with Dutch Word Completion only.
Kind regards,
Piet

On my device I can turn it on whenever I want by bringing up the on-screen keyboard then hiding it. It is only temporary, and works until I close the keyboard and go back to portrait.

The problem with the reg edits is that eventually your keyboard will get stuck. The way to do it without messing anything up is through HDTweak. Not HD2Tweak. There is a difference. Once installed scroll down and turn xt9 off. Then the very next option will be T9. This is what you enable. Dont forget to soft reset. You will have auto correct and word completion perfectly after that without any problems.

thebigrhinoone said:
The problem with the reg edits is that eventually your keyboard will get stuck. The way to do it without messing anything up is through HDTweak. Not HD2Tweak. There is a difference. Once installed scroll down and turn xt9 off. Then the very next option will be T9. This is what you enable. Dont forget to soft reset. You will have auto correct and word completion perfectly after that without any problems.
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The funny thing is that HDTweaks does the exact same thing as my cab does.
I used SKTrack to monitor the changes made by HDTweak and it changes the exact same registry keys to the exact same values I suggested...

thebigrhinoone said:
The problem with the reg edits is that eventually your keyboard will get stuck.
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Checkout my cab, it includes a tool to fix the stuck keypad: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772413

pietsukkel said:
I found the answer myself! The trick is to change 2 registry keys.
Change these two registry keys under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\ Control\Layouts\e0010409
- Change the value of Ime File from \windows\eT9ime.dll to \windows\compime.dll
- Change the value of Layout Text from ET9 IME to COMP IME
Perform a soft reset and you wil now see that word completion works in the default language of your device.
You could replace the dictionary used (\Windows\Mssp2.lex) by one of your preferred language to change this.
For the Dutch users I have attached a CAB file which does this all for you. This is for WWE devices and you end up with Dutch Word Completion only.
Kind regards,
Piet
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Thanks for the info bro its really useful for me