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xda-developers overload -- now I'm bored

Great googly moogly.....for almost two weeks straight I was on a xda-developers overload of flashing my phone with something every night.
There was the excitement of some new functionality, mixed with the adrenylene of doing something that you're not "supposed" to be doing, mixed with fear of bricking your phone...
I was obsessed....I would flash as soon as it came out and constantly monitor the thread to see what bugs or hacks people were adding...
Now..I have my phone exactly the way I want it ........AND.........
I'm bored.
When does WM7 come out?

ain't that the truth....

I Agree
I agree! I got my Hermes right at the right time. Just a week after I got it, I started to read this site and figure out how to unlock it. I then loaded the new cingular ROM. As soon as I did that, all of sudden all these WM6 ROMs came out. I've flashed every single ROM and their versions on to my device. It has become second nature. I've found the best one and now I don't know what to do with my free time. It's killing me. Can't wait till WXML0.3. Then I get to do it again at least one more time. Enjoy.

Yep, I am bored too. Although if LVSW keep the usual schedule, we should see new version now. It seem as we were getting an update every 5 days. I was taken sick days from work to play with my phone. The truth is after staying up all night there was no way I can perform well at work.
Anyway I am seating here waiting to flash a new ROM

I'm so bored...I'm thinking about flashing WM5 again...okay... maybe not that bored

bkbroil said:
There was the excitement of some new functionality, mixed with the adrenylene of doing something that you're not "supposed" to be doing, mixed with fear of bricking your phone...
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Geekaholicus Vulgarus - very common these days.

I feel your pain!

I'm just waiting for Black v2 to come out. then it's back to flashing again.

jcb_home said:
I'm just waiting for Black v2 to come out. then it's back to flashing again.
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Ditto! A week ago I was a scared noob... now I'm a flash-freak!

omg I feel the same way, I have a wizard dash and hermes and every day I am flashing at least one of them. I need a new hobby, like many others here my wife thinks im cheating on her with the internets. when Im at work I check this forum constantly! havent been caught yet!

Ooh! Ooh! New Flash Alert!!!!!

absolutely know what your'e talking about

update your SPL's and/or signatures to 1.40.Olipro then

I check this forum at least five times a day. I've flashed XDA Live 1, 2.0, LVSW, Black 1.2... and ended up sticking with XDA 2.0. Its the sturdiest for me...
Then Windows Live Messenger Beta stopped so I am now waiting for Black V2... with full on Live messenger - but that wont stop me from loading WMXL 3.0 when it arrives... and then I may just get a life.

Well... When we have all tried it all - next must be to create even better roms, perhaps even one that can make us fly to the moon....

Martinhdk said:
Well... When we have all tried it all - next must be to create even better roms, perhaps even one that can make us fly to the moon....
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What makes you think these roms won't? Last time they flew to the moon they had a ZX81 in the cockpit...

TwoPlus1 said:
What makes you think these roms won't? Last time they flew to the moon they had a ZX81 in the cockpit...
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HAHA - yessir..
But I believe that the roms from our Chefs will improve to a level much higher than the original WM6 - and what I find even more impressive is the way that things have developed so far. OLI, ROMS, Memory, Tweaks, Improvements..
Had I been from MS I would for sure keep my eyes opened in here... And who knows (This i far out I know, and just meant for fun) if MS had released som BETA to see reactions and how things in the OS would be improved.
Or without the MS releasing - I am sure they must keep an eye on the Forum and different threads and releases - just to see improvement. And who knows. They might end up adapting some of the stuff. (Or try to find ways to avoid what the chefs are doing...)
...just som crazy thoughts..

Sometimes i think we all just are "wm6-Betatesters" for Microsoft. Esepecially since in know that we will get an official wm6 rom for our tytns. Perhaps xda-devs have a secret contract with Microsoft. Who knows

I have the same feeling... it´s been a great two weeks but as things begin to settle down I´m always awaiting the next "fix".

I think that I will stick to a XDA ROM instead of a slow MS ROM. I dont believe that they will end up with a rom as good as i can be when our CHEFS have had it in the kitchen....heheh
BTW - has any heard of any software that let us emulate old MS games - like the classic games series of Close Combat.

Best build for a XDA IIs wm200se?

Ok, I'm pretty much getting to grips with my IIs...
I've already upgraded my rom to o2's 1.40242 (up and down just to practice) and I know what I'm doing in so far as editing my registry... but my machine still isn't all it could be.
I've pretty much read the forum upside down, but there are so many options to this and that scattered around in the various threads that that it would take me forever to try them all for functionality, so as opposed to asking for help, I'd like to instead call upon your collective experience.
As said I'm looking to make my machine the best it can be for a wm2003se PDA (not really looking to upgrade to wm5 because 2003 is still the most compatible os out there at the mo), so I'd like your thoughts on the best roms and radio versions based on your useage. (best being most stable and functional (heh, I really like a2dp... but I know the issues).
So... what's your advise?
Thx in advance, all suggestions most welcome (well.... the non-profane ones anyway. )
Finally... big kudos to all the devs,(pro and hobby) you all done some really stunning stuff, this is a hell of a forum. (I'd name them but I'd like to finish this post today.)

maybe you can try he system rom from this progect:
http://sx66-blueangel.home.comcast.net/
also, upgrade your radio to the latest one.

MORE options!... are you purposely trying to give me brain melt?
I might give it a try at some point when it comes out of beta... but for the moment I'm really just going for stability and functionality.
Also you mentioned the latest radio rom.. which (if I'm correct) is the 1.15 version.. but I've read that alot of people have gone back to 1.13.... ho hum.
Thx though.
Any more suggestions, people?
What about suggesting a really nice cooked rom (or baked.. whatever.)
Also any chance of giving me a reason why you would recommend a particular rom over another?
Thx.

Someone Walkin' said:
MORE options!... are you purposely trying to give me brain melt?
I might give it a try at some point when it comes out of beta... but for the moment I'm really just going for stability and functionality.
Also you mentioned the latest radio rom.. which (if I'm correct) is the 1.15 version.. but I've read that alot of people have gone back to 1.13.... ho hum.
Thx though.
Any more suggestions, people?
What about suggesting a really nice cooked rom (or baked.. whatever.)
Also any chance of giving me a reason why you would recommend a particular rom over another?
Thx.
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Well, in case you didn't saw:
I am just one newbie here, I will receive my SX66 in 5 days, and at least, I am trying to help other persons with the stuff i know!
Patience i don't have much knowledge, but i believe it was better than not replying to you.

SandStorm said:
Well, in case you didn't saw:
I am just one newbie here, I will receive my SX66 in 5 days, and at least, I am trying to help other persons with the stuff i know!
Patience i don't have much knowledge, but i believe it was better than not replying to you.
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Heh.. I think you've missed the point of my post.. I wasn't getting at you, it was actually a thank you.
I'm learning too.

Someone Walkin' said:
Heh.. I think you've missed the point of my post.. I wasn't getting at you, it was actually a thank you.
I'm learning too.
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no problem man
I'll try the upgrade to radio 1.15, and if it don't go well, i'll change to 1.13.
Anyway, also would like to try out one WM5 release, I am thinking in one clean helmi release.
Also, i've got from one portuguese forum, some interesting files that put the 2003 SE with one graphical aspect similar to wm6. (thats one of the things i'll try.
By studying all those files, maybe one day, we can compile one rom to our needs.

Sounds interesting.. but watch you don't slow your machine down to much.. that's (and compatibility issues) my main reason for not going to new with my os.. all the pretties just bog the system down.

I will try.
also, i believe those new rom's are much faster and stable than the first ones that appeared.

Hey people.. still lookin' for recommendations.

Someone Walkin' said:
Hey people.. still lookin' for recommendations.
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here, the only recommendations we get is this: "screw it alone, we don't like you to do questions"
but for WM2003 there aren't big recommendations. it is already one outdated platform, and all of them are with the eyes on WM5 platform.
the last system roms are based on 1.42.xxx

SandStorm said:
here, the only recommendations we get is this: "screw it alone, we don't like you to do questions"
but for WM2003 there aren't big recommendations. it is already one outdated platform, and all of them are with the eyes on WM5 platform.
the last system roms are based on 1.42.xxx
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Szr.. I didn't see that you had replied.
The newest original rom from o2 was the 1.40.242.. I think that the 1.42 is from t-mobile.. do you know if that will work on an XDA IIs?

hi there man. my pda arrived today. i am using the system rom 1.42 and the radio 1.15. i did the upgrade today. so far so good.
in fact i am now posting this message with the blue angel.

cool.
What Pda did you get?
Glad things are going smoothly for ya... same can't be said here.
I'm having a ***** of a time trying to do anything other that transfer files or activesync when using bluetooth.... that's 6 charges I've gone through trying to get thing to work...
Ah well.. still tryin'.

SandStorm said:
hi there man. my pda arrived today. i am using the system rom 1.42 and the radio 1.15. i did the upgrade today. so far so good.
in fact i am now posting this message with the blue angel.
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SandStorm.. when you upgraded what bt driver and version did you end up with?

good! I use t-mobile 1-42 with cooked ext rom and the pda smiles me .. until the coming of Ultimate 7150...

hi! well, now I am using helmi wm5. its more stable, btw. I dunno about my bt stack. the other rom I had, was from sx66 standardization.

Advice On Rom Please

Hi guys im currently using the Athena @ the moment and no much choice in ROMS ive just upgraded the contract for my misses and got a o2 xda orbit will be running with Vodaphone Sim and a 1GB mico SD its a great phone and theres an amazing amount of ROMS on here she isnt as technically minded as me and i want a Rom thats Cool, functional and with a simple interface she's by no means stupid as uses mine every now and then but dont want a Rom thats buggy etc Any one advise a good simple stable Rom to use I Know its a personal choice but i would appreciate some advice... Thanks Guys

It's all a matter of preference as they are all good, except the official O2 ROM. Meschle's look the nicest and have some really good toys especially his new Vanilla (with cherry) release, but I personally prefer Tom Codon's Black and Blue series.
I'd would wait for his 4.2 release, but if you can't wait, then 4.0 is great. I tried 4.1, but the infamous 'storage card' bug did put me off a little. I try most of the ROM's, but I am getting counseling for this addiction.

thank you for the advice the touch and black and blue roms took my fancy so will probably try one of these... Thanks again

mike996 said:
It's all a matter of preference as they are all good, except the official O2 ROM. Meschle's look the nicest and have some really good toys especially his new Vanilla (with cherry) release, but I personally prefer Tom Codon's Black and Blue series.
I'd would wait for his 4.2 release, but if you can't wait, then 4.0 is great. I tried 4.1, but the infamous 'storage card' bug did put me off a little. I try most of the ROM's, but I am getting counseling for this addiction.
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what do you mean with cherry? and which rom you talking abotu can you link to it please

magpie2000k said:
what do you mean with cherry? and which rom you talking abotu can you link to it please
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332531

athanaso77 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332531
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Thanks for that but what is Cherry?
cheers mate

magpie2000k said:
Thanks for that but what is Cherry?
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Just read the linked thread and you will find the answer there.

ctibor said:
Just read the linked thread and you will find the answer there.
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Mate having gone through pages on pages I can only see cherry referred to in POLL but it is closed, Please help
am I blind
or just mad

In this case 'cherry' means that Meschle took the original WM6 OEM rom, made by Microsoft and --instead of adding a lot of fancy and sophisticated progs-- just added the fresh versions of some really useful utilities (as he put it in the first post of the related thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332531 See the bullet points!)
So, it's a quite simple rom, but enhanced with his cherry picking amongst the wide variety of apps that make the usage of our Artemis easier and more effective.
At least I see this way... (I'm far from being an expert).

The official HTC Europe WM6 rom has just been released (see a lot of fresh thread abuot it).
So, if you are cautious (I am), I suggest you to flash your Orbit with this rom. It must be stable and more or less bug-free (but certainly there is no guarantee...)
And later you can switch to a cooked one, if you wish so.
But be aware: first you should run USPL! See thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311403

ctibor said:
The official HTC Europe WM6 rom has just been released (see a lot of fresh thread abuot it).
So, if you are cautious (I am), I suggest you to flash your Orbit with this rom. It must be stable and more or less bug-free (but certainly there is no guarantee...)
And later you can switch to a cooked one, if you wish so.
But be aware: first you should run USPL! See thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311403
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thank you but dont worry im no noob when it comes to flashing, im on my 5th pda device, i had one when the format was 1st released back in the 90's ive installed the touch 2.1 rom and it is superb thanks for all your help and guidance every one.... loving this phone and the great choice in roms just have to hand it over to my wife...

Poll: Ricky's or Kavana's ROM

different roms
would the tytn rom work on our phone i know the imate somewhat works

No it will not, and dont try it ok... cause you can brick your phone...

ROM Advice
Hey All!
I haven't been following the rom scene lately and I don't wish to start a flame war on the topic.. I'm just interested in some general information on what different roms are available form my Dash. If there is an existing post, please direct me too it as I have been trolling but did not find anything terribly informative on the topic.
I've been experiencing weird issues on my 6.0 standard rom. ICScontrol not working, wm9 codecs not working and i figure its time to try something new..
I'm looking for features of the rom, a how-to on installing it (already familiar with flashing, no big woop.. just don't wanna brick it), and what roms are available for the s60.
Information is much appreciated!
Thanks,
Nick

Rickys Rom
Kavanas Rom

Mikey1022 said:
Rickys Rom
Kavanas Rom
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You rock, thanks!

FYI Rickys is a remake (cosmetic version of kavanas rom)
Homescreen edits, iconbar, apps, etc.

Mikey1022 said:
FYI Rickys is a remake (cosmetic version of kavanas rom)
Homescreen edits, iconbar, apps, etc.
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Ah, that makes sense. Looking at Ricky's rom now.. Seems to contain most of what i'm looking for. Seems to have a little better (neater and more precise) documentation/changelog.
Downloading now! Will do a backup and get'r'dun tomorrow..
Thanks for the help and quick response!

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Ah, that makes sense. Looking at Ricky's rom now.. Seems to contain most of what i'm looking for. Seems to have a little better (neater and more precise) documentation/changelog.
Downloading now! Will do a backup and get'r'dun tomorrow..
Thanks for the help and quick response!
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let us know how ya like it. theres a lot to customize in rickys rom. im running version 12 and im just now getting it exactly the way i like it.

If you need anything for a restore, the Original ROMs are in my sig.
These are all, of course, 5.0 and 6.0 releases. Nothing interesting, just useful if you are stuck at the bootloader, need to restore for a warranty etc.

Profezza said:
If you need anything for a restore, the Original ROMs are in my sig.
These are all, of course, 5.0 and 6.0 releases. Nothing interesting, just useful if you are stuck at the bootloader, need to restore for a warranty etc.
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Hah, i don't think i'll have to worry about my warranty any more.. I was impressed with the Dash for the following reason..
A few months ago I was visiting a friend, I pulled my phone out and set it on the arm of the chair I was sitting in. My friend asked me to hand him something within my reach, when I reached for it I knocked my phone off the chair... Directly into a BUCKET OF WATER!!!! As I watched my phone sink to the bottom I thought "WHO KEEPS A BUCKET OF WATER NEXT TO THEIR CHAIR?!?!?!?"..
The phone remained on even after I pulled it out.. I quickly yanked the battery out and patted it dry. I let it sit for a few hours and also put it over the heater vent in the car.
Surprisingly, it survived! No weird behavior, no power issues (other then my now swollen battery).. The phone survived! Holly crap!
So needless to say, I am impressed by this durability of this phone..

IT WORKED!
Wooha! It worked.. Just gettin into all the features.. But I love it so far!!!
Thanks for all the help, add this to another success story!

WM6 to WM6.1 - What are the Pros & Cons?
Hello,
I'm a long time member but just haven't had the time to come on here. Some of you might remember me from before. I haven't had the chance to upgrade from WM6 to WM6.1 - Can someone please be kind enough to list the pros & cons? Also, are all applications compatible from before and finally, how's the ROM speed and reception?
Thanks in advance

In my opinion the biggest pro would be the sliding panels theme. I can't think of any cons, but I'm sure some crybaby will. lol

Pros: What Organic said. New PIe that sucks 20% less. Threaded messaging is smart. Tons of well cooked ROMs that exploit it.
Cons: You can't get it in an official ROM from your vendor, so you will have to look up the settings for Internet, MMS and follow the instructions when doing the first cold boot. OMG.

just install it. no if, and, or buts about it.
well, some crybaby did say that the radio isnt better, but worse. only 1 crybaby though. IMO i think its better, but i never tested. i would say its not better or worse.
on the bright side, its faster, more solid, more and better apps, more memory....umm better battery life? i cant confirm this tho. i have ricky's rom v17 i think and im happy with it. i can tell u its waaaaaaaayyy better then WM6.

One more in favor Just installed last night ricki´s rom v20a. Just awesome. Didn´t find a glitch yet. Very complete set of applications... i only miss a rss reader but there´s plenty of them out there. At least this version as a connection wizard so i didn´t had to look for mms, etc, settings in the net.
So far i only think it has less programs memory available after a reboot. In my case a little more than 17mg. With WM6 i had about 19mg. Not a big thing...
In the end, is too good to let it slide...

If I wanted to update my HTC 620 to WM6.1 where would I get the firmware to do it. I am new to this but would like the options of sliding screens etc. any help would be gratefully accepted.

first thing you should do is read one of the many many many many threads about your very question.

Which do you like better?

eviltommy said:
Which do you like better?
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I personally wont be making a choice, I just think both guys have been doing a great job for all of us. so the only way to really find out is to install them on test them and make your own choice.

Touch Flo ROM for TyTN

Hey guys
Was just wondering if it was possible to find a Touch Flo ROM for a TyTN?
Saw the new Touch last night, think the interface is very interesting, would like to try it out
Thanks alot for any replies!!!

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Hey guys
Was just wondering if it was possible to find a Touch Flo ROM for a TyTN?
Saw the new Touch last night, think the interface is very interesting, would like to try it out
Thanks alot for any replies!!!
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If you had searched you would have found ...... this quite accessible ... the only ROM that comes with one is .... this ...
But I think you need to do a fair bit more reading and searching before you go ahead and flashing stuff if you think touchflo is a ROM

Hehehe, thanks alot Zocster...Believe it or not, i did actually search and ive been reading alot of posts! Im not 1 of those forum idiots who randomly posts messages without reading anything...
However, i am TOTALLY new to this world! I decided to ditch the trusty old cell phone and move to a pocket pc/pda phone whatever you wanna call it I have decided on a TyTN and am now getting into the world of cooked ROMs and all the stuff you guys know all about
Im learning!!!

randomguy321 said:
Hehehe, thanks alot Zocster...Believe it or not, i did actually search and ive been reading alot of posts! Im not 1 of those forum idiots who randomly posts messages without reading anything...
However, i am TOTALLY new to this world! I decided to ditch the trusty old cell phone and move to a pocket pc/pda phone whatever you wanna call it I have decided on a TyTN and am now getting into the world of cooked ROMs and all the stuff you guys know all about
Im learning!!!
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Awesome, is it definitely an HTC Tytn then? not any other variants? just curious

No no, plain old HTC TyTN im from South Africa, so thats our variant out here

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No no, plain old HTC TyTN im from South Africa, so thats our variant out here
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I seeI have an imate jasjam, so yeah you have a front camera I presume you would want to make video calls too then, so may be that ROM i mentioned not for you as it doesn't have video calling dial pad cooked in.

To be brutally honest, Ive had a Sony Ericsson K800i for a year and a half now and have NEVER used the video calling feature Our networks are rather unstable and its expensive, so why bother Im just looking for a fast, reliable ROM

randomguy321 said:
To be brutally honest, Ive had a Sony Ericsson K800i for a year and a half now and have NEVER used the video calling feature Our networks are rather unstable and its expensive, so why bother Im just looking for a fast, reliable ROM
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Let me see then ... you have ten or so ROMs to try out took me two months to go through about 30 from pays, tnt, binky11s, now crc and pdacorner as my favs. You need to know what works for you, make sure you read the wiki, you don't want to kill your new toy ey ...
Welcome by the way .. saw it was your second post oh by the way, go the wallabies, even though i live in new zealand! hehe .. and this is for the trinations!

Much obliged Zocster!!!
Thanks alot for your help...I know that forum noobs are often ignored or flamed lol!!!
The problem i have is being a complete newcomer to this stuff...I honestly dont know where to start, I was hoping there would be a poll with "your favorite ROM" or something, then at least id have somewhere to start

randomguy321 said:
Much obliged Zocster!!!
Thanks alot for your help...I know that forum noobs are often ignored or flamed lol!!!
The problem i have is being a complete newcomer to this stuff...I honestly dont know where to start, I was hoping there would be a poll with "your favorite ROM" or something, then at least id have somewhere to start
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Sorry mate, honestly, ... trying it yourself is the only way you can judge, read the wiki, and try out different roms, as i said what is good for me may not be good for you. So go try them all out and make up your mind from experience. I have had my phone for two months and I have been through honestly about 20 or so roms before i made up my mind, each chefs have got their own style and yeah you need to determine what style suits you.

Thanks alot, will definitely do so
One more question...In my research on the P4350 which uses the 200mhz OMAP cpu, i read that there is an app to overclock (and declock) the device, does the TyTN have a similar app??

randomguy321 said:
Thanks alot, will definitely do so
One more question...In my research on the P4350 which uses the 200mhz OMAP cpu, i read that there is an app to overclock (and declock) the device, does the TyTN have a similar app??
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If you want to keep your device for another couple of years, then no, it is not recommended. it is doable, but it would not be doing your device any favour.

Well since the reviews i read all said the TyTN is powerful enough, im actually more interested in declocking the device when i dont need the power, to save battery life

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Well since the reviews i read all said the TyTN is powerful enough, im actually more interested in declocking the device when i dont need the power, to save battery life
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hmm, you need to try the roms available, and once you get applications such as BT GPS, BT Stereo, MP3 etc going, plus the touchflo extension you mentioned, it ain't all that powerful.
These chefs have done their best to make the most out of a device that is 2 years old. so ... yeah it isn't that powerful, but yes you will determine that when you have run a couple of things on the hermes have fun, ...

Starbase has the cab on his 4shared site. I have had it before, but find it useless, the touchflo that schaps has is better for finger scrolling and quick landscape mode switches however.

Good to see more South Africans here. (From South Africa myself). As Zocster said, just try the roms out. Been flashing my TyTN at least once a week. Just remember to Hard-SPL first.

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Just remember to Hard-SPL first.
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Glad someone remembered.....

lol thanks guys!!!
Been reading the guides and the wikis, will definitely hardSPL first

first of all make hardspl ! it is the first thing you need to flash into your tytn....what you meen about -toch flo- ? many component may be instaled on any rom. personaly I use 3ppc.net russian 6.1 rom, whith htc home today plugin (one part of tochflo) included. for finger scroling I use ftochFlo, cube not use at all - personaly I found it useless....(anyway - there are some custom cube on 'hacking and developing' section of developers, as for me it much better than original.)

about overclock. sumsung procesors (which use tytn) is wery bad in frequency control. looks like time generator somehow connected whith main frequency - when you changing it, a lot of bugs appear....for example - if you overclocked cpu, you will notice that music/video/e.t.c. will run more fast that it needed. no need to worry about cpu power consumtion - it low anyway for samsung cpu. much more buttary will eat 3g, wifi, backlight e.t.c.