O2 Orbit - CoPilot or TomTom? - P3300, MDA Compact III General

I am currently due a handset upgrade with O2.
They told me that I can have an O2 Orbit (HTC Artemis) for £159.99 without CoPilot, or £299.99 with CoPilot. I am assuming that "CoPilot" just includes maps of UK and Ireland (the lady I spoke to didn't seem to know a lot about the package).
Looking at the TomTom web site, it seems that I can get complete maps of Europe (and probably better software!) for £85.
It therefore seems like a no-brainer to me that I should get the handset without CoPilot from O2, and then buy a copy of TT6.
Am I missing something obvious?

Philip said:
I am currently due a handset upgrade with O2.
They told me that I can have an O2 Orbit (HTC Artemis) for £159.99 without CoPilot, or £299.99 with CoPilot. I am assuming that "CoPilot" just includes maps of UK and Ireland (the lady I spoke to didn't seem to know a lot about the package).
Looking at the TomTom web site, it seems that I can get complete maps of Europe (and probably better software!) for £85.
It therefore seems like a no-brainer to me that I should get the handset without CoPilot from O2, and then buy a copy of TT6.
Am I missing something obvious?
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Philip said:
I am currently due a handset upgrade with O2.
They told me that I can have an O2 Orbit (HTC Artemis) for £159.99 without CoPilot, or £299.99 with CoPilot. I am assuming that "CoPilot" just includes maps of UK and Ireland (the lady I spoke to didn't seem to know a lot about the package).
Looking at the TomTom web site, it seems that I can get complete maps of Europe (and probably better software!) for £85.
It therefore seems like a no-brainer to me that I should get the handset without CoPilot from O2, and then buy a copy of TT6.
Am I missing something obvious?
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No brainer, p.s. a friend of mine just went from Orange to O2 today in an O2 shop, his bill is normally about £50 a month and basic O2 package is £40 a month they gave him the Orbit with Co-Pilot for free.

You should get a free Orbit and the copilot pack from O2 if you are taking a £40 contract
O2 shops give you £30 for ANY old handset you care to hand in
You can then ebay your copilot for around £50 and buy TomTom
Hays

The O2 Co-Pilot Package includes full European Maps, a 256MB Mini-SD Card, Car Mount and Car Charger. It doesn't include a case
Co-Pilot costs about £85, a Micro SD Card will cost you £10ish (if you shop around, at least my 1GB did), a car mount will cost you £20 if you go for the basic one and a USB Car Charger will cost you £10.
I've got GPS kit and all of it's good quality but I purchased a brodit mount in the end because I all ready had the Brodit Brackets in my car. And I ended up going back to TomTom because I prefer the interface.

hays said:
You should get a free Orbit and the copilot pack from O2 if you are taking a £40 contract
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I am on a All Time 200 Pay UpFront tariff with O2 - I pay £149 for 12 months (which is about £12.50 per month) and get 200 anytime minutes per month included, so I have no desire to change tariffs, especially as I never use the full 200 minutes in a month.
I rang O2 back today, and this time I was quoted £149.99 without CoPilot and £199.99 with it - and they confirmed that the "with" prices includes a car mount. Only problem is that they have no CoPilots in stock (they do have the phone), so suggested that I need to go to an O2 shop.
I'll try that, but I strongly suspect that they will quote me a higher price, especially given that I do not want to change my tariff!

just so you know....
ive done this twice!
go into the o2 shop, as long as you are within 3 months i think you can cancel your current contract and open a new one and get the phone for free rather then pay the £100+ to upgrade. this requires a £40+ contract.
i got my alpine & universal this way at least a month and a half before my upgrade date.
It was the lady in the shop that told me this, she even printed the letter to post to o2 to cancel the current contract and gave me the uni right there and then. very helpful!
i only went into town to buy some jeans

i have tom tom installed but having issues with it stalling on the splash screen 9 times out of 10! the tom tom i have has european maps with the speed cameras POI. I got the Co Pilot kit free with my orbit and am considering ebaying it.
Question:
Does someone know if Co Pilot is more stable on the Artemis than TT6? If so, i'll go to that!
Also, if I do decide to do this, can i get the speed camera infor for co pilot?
Thanks!

Hi. I haven't used TT since I think it was called En Route, and on a Psion 5! But CoPilot works fine on an Orbit. I've had it (CoPilot 6, full Europe maps) on an XDA Exec, with a BT GPSlim236, running from a 2Gb Ultra SD, even though ALK recommend it installed to main memory, and it was excellent. The same prog runs fine on the Orbit, every bit as quickly, although I was quite worried about the possibility of the Micro SD card suffering corruption, as many members here have suffered. So far it has been perfect, no problems at all, except the built in receiver is a little slower to first fix, and I've seen it having a few problems for a few seconds sometimes finding exactly where it is. There is a socket for an external aerial, which I think would help, but it seems that getting one with the correct connector is very difficult. In the meantime, I've tried my BT 236 with it, and reception now is excellent. However, you may want to sell the CoPilot 6 fairly quickly on Ebay, because CoPilot 7 is due to be released very soon - it was announced a week ago, and the value of 6 may then go down a bit. Besides having the latest maps, 7 will also be WM6 compatible, and it definitely works on an Orbit, because the guys from ALK were demonstrating it on Orbits.. Speed camera updates and lots of other POIs can be downloaded from
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com
on payment of a subscription fee. Hope this helps..
Actually, that's a thought for everyone here hoping for an upgrade to WM6 - will all the software, including TT, still be functional?

co-pilot
hi all
CO PILOT IS ABSOLUTE RUBBISH, TRUST ME, TOMTOM ALL THE WAY

mazta said:
hi all
CO PILOT IS ABSOLUTE RUBBISH, TRUST ME, TOMTOM ALL THE WAY
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but are you not getting the annoying stalling at the splash screen issue? if not, have you got round it somehow?

I never have any issue with TomTom splash screens. Must be the version you are using

Upgrades
I always seem to get a deal every year on a different phone..
Always get the phone number for the customer loyalty department.
Shop around for a good deal from other providers then phone the loyalty department and tell them that their competitors have offered you a better deal to switch networks. (I always make the competitors deal sound a little better than it is) Ask the customer loyalty department if they can better the offer if you stay with them. You can usually get a cashback offer that blows away anything you can get over the counter.
Last time I switched providers I kept my old handset, got a brand new razor phone (which I ebayed) and got half price line rental for 9 months. I don't use that many minutes so the money I got from ebaying the phone payed for my bill for the whole year!

i have 1 on these co-pilot pack with my orbit but i do not need it so i am willing to sell it to some one on this site for £60 in p&p
the guy i got it off also provided a cd with all the tom tom software and maps
pm me or cantact me at [email protected]
collection wellcome

i just put the co-pilot on ebay check out the link below
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....MESE:IT&viewitem=&item=300085472090&rd=1&rd=1
Item number: 300085472090

copilot
I have been using copilot for real.
I have no experience of TomTom.
Copilot seems fine but slow to start up - otherwise it takes me very accurately to where I want to mine with very little problem.
I got my Orbit as a free upgrade and paid £50 for co-pilot Uk but it was UK only. They supply all European maps but the code that I enter only gets me UK.

tomtom6 works flawlessly on my xda orbit. have maps of western europe and have been using it in a motorhome

Definitely TomTom
You need to upgrade to version 6.02 for stability - you can torrent it or message me... really simple installation, just copy everything to your SD cars and run the install cab.
Works flawlessly, 100% stable, much better than it did on my old XDA Mini S.
I got Copilot with my Orbits (three for my company), tried it and hated it... you can't use it quickly with your finger in the car, unlike TomTom... TomTom's interface is much better. Copilot also takes ages to load. Sold my copilot software (3 copies) on ebay for £40 each!!!
If you need a car bracket, the O2 Copilot kit is just a standard multi-pda mount, you can get them for a fiver on ebay. If you get one with adjustabl;e feet at the bottom of it, you can supeglue the usb lead into position to give a permanent charging cradle!
I've also designed a custom menu interface for my TomTom to remove unneccessary buttons... you can do it free online at http://www.skux.net/tomtom/menubuilder2/index.php

I got Copilot because it was £40, versus £110 for TomTom. It's a fair price as it's about half a good. Mind you I haven't used it much, because it sucks more than getting lost in the first place. TomTom every time.

Got my upgrade XDA Orbit for free (£25 Anytime 200 & the 20Mb data Bolt-on for £10) - & co-pilot was £49.
I tend to agree though - it doesn't look good. Awkward to use and pretty non-intuitive (have been used to using my BMW system).
Can anyone answer as to how you just get the map displayed on co-pilot 6 without having to have a route entered? Would just like to know where I am some of the time, not necessarily to have fannied about entering a route and all...

Related

I'm still waing the backpack I ordered and paid ...

...the 3rd February 2004 from TeknToys!!! :evil:
I think their email they sent a while ago said three weeks. I think this week has been about three weeks. I have since then cancelled. I still have my i-Mate, but I'm looking hard at the HP 6000 GSM/WiFi/Bluetooth device. I didn't want to invest in too many accessories for the i-Mate in case that's the route I go.
ciao dale!
but ...do you think HP will really produce the 6000?
It sounds like it. It keeps getting pushed off (summer now), but the initial rumors of the 6300's demise seem to have been inaccurate. In fact, I believe T-Mobile has a three month exclusive sales agreement with HP for the 6300 (which is why T-Mobile US did not pick up the XDA II - they were waiting for the 6300).
Hey Marco. get your backpack yet? I see that TnT doesn't list it as an accessory on their site now, so I would guess "no". It's amazing that virtually no one carries this thing yet.
BackPack (Also Called Expansion Pack)
Hi,
I ordered mine last friday. And got it on Monday. Paid about 175 Euro.
Contain a booklet which explaines the usage of de included software for VGA connectivity.
The software included are: ClearVue PPT, ClearVue PDF and Screen Mirror
I know there was this French site that had it, where it was difficult to navigate if you didn't speak French. Also, this other company sold it if you were a customer of Orange. And I think it's available in shops in Singapore. But that's pretty much it as far as I could see.

02 shops now selling the Orbit.

Just got one from Worcester O2 free on the £35 month constract.
Very happy - looks the biz - the RollR aint the bad that everyone is talking about and I have WIFI!
Even comes with MSN messenger.
Wehay - one happy bunny.
Gotta wait for my PAC from orange now so need to SIM unlock it....any ideas?
I've just bought it for 50 pounds plus 35 pounds/mth with 400mins and 500 texts, free weekends, 12mths .
but note there is NO GPS software and you have to buy copilot separately at an additional 50 pounds depending on your tariff.
I love it. It looks great and the track ball and dial work really nicely as opposed to some of the comments I've recently read.
Apps don't have the extra close button as seen on the HTC version
HTC close button
what is the @extra close button found on HTC devices'?
does it shut down apps instead of minimising them?
yes apparently some of them have such a button.
however,the orbit has a plugin on the today screen for Shutting down apps and a also a Shortcut bar.
this is to the two posters who say they have the orbit.
i was wondering did you buy from a store direct? or online? because i cant seem to find it online. and it still comes up under the coming soon section of the website.
snoop85 said:
this is to the two posters who say they have the orbit.
i was wondering did you buy from a store direct? or online? because i cant seem to find it online. and it still comes up under the coming soon section of the website.
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I got mine from an o2 shop in Worcerster
feridoun said:
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but note there is NO GPS software and you have to buy copilot separately at an additional 50 pounds depending on your tariff.
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Do you mean that the GPS function is unuseable unless you buy other software. I don't want in-car stuff, just to be able to enter some waypoints and for the Orbit to point me towards them and tell me how fast I'm getting there - will it do this out of the box
Thanks
Mike
just come of the phone from o2 online, they're saying it'll be another couple of days. going into town to see if the shops got one.
O2 Shop Nottingham
I got mine from O2 Shop in Nottingham near the Victoria Centre, £50 on O2 400 / 12 Months.
Already installed TomTom 5 which I bought for my XDA iis, works fantastically well!
mikesands said:
Do you mean that the GPS function is unuseable unless you buy other software. I don't want in-car stuff, just to be able to enter some waypoints and for the Orbit to point me towards them and tell me how fast I'm getting there - will it do this out of the box
Thanks
Mike
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Sadly there's no software at all, but the chipset is fully functinal and you can probably download some free/cheap apps for your requirements.

What price are O2 UK selling the orbit for?

Anyone know what the instore price is for a "25 pm tarrif?
I called O2 today and to upgrade my exec on a £25 tarrif they wanted £259 pounds. Nearly fell off my chair laughing, PAC code on its way to me hello vodaphone
i just upgraded to 02 orbit for free!
I just upgraded to o2 200 £30.00 / month ( same as I've been on for ages ) - phone cost £99.99.
I think if i'd gone for £35.00 / month the cost drops to £49.99
Best deal on t-mobile (who needs wifi)
I went for an MDA Compact III (I dont use wi-fi).... I got it on 18month contract UFIX for £15 a month (this is the UFIX) then £7 a month bolt on for web and walk (unlimited connection).... The t-mobile web site is in fact more expensive than the shops... I went into my local t-mobile shop and picked up two with my girlfriend... the guy said they usually would be £40 for the phone but we could have them for £20 each... so a 18 month contract for 22.00 a month and £20 for the phone which we both thought was an excellent deal!... the boxes were unsealed (but) the phones were intact and not touched just shown to customers... there is quite a few t-mobile shops with ones opened and you can get a good deal on these handsets, I did go to another t-mobile shop before hand but the Artemis looked like it had been dropped so I didnt touch it !....
free of charge at o2 shop - i am on £30 per month tariff but had my qtek s100 since june last year.
i got mine 49.48 on T-Mobile Flext web 'n' walk 22.50 a month for the full 18 month contract. was on T-Mobile website for 79.99!! So better deal on the High Street.
Thank you, so basically they were trying to rip me off :-(
Shame the t-mobile version doesn't have wifi as I do use it quite a bit with my xda exec
Will try a local store next and see if they give me a more realistic offer, I think my problem was I don't normally go over my minutes so O2 are probably not that bothered if I move.
Ta
just to say it seems some shops have been getting the price confused on this handset, when I phoned the store (to see if they had any cheap microsd cards) the day after....they said they gave me the phone free by accident as the pricing hadn't been sorted with them by o2. Reckon they had to pay upgrade charges for me thanks o2
I phoned up for a PAC code and they upgraded mine for free £35 tariff.
I tried O2 earlier today, the local shop didn't have any Orbit's in stock, they wouldn't offer any decent sim only tariffs to use GPRS so I decided to move elsewhere (T-Mobile Web and Walk).
O2 wouldn't issue a code over the phone to move networks - I have to wait for a text message, T-Mobile account and device is set-up, just waiting to port the number across.
I can live without the WiFi to be honest, if I need it I will use one of my other toys, both my main phones (Artemis and MDA-III) still feel lighter in the pocket than carrying around either the Exec or IIs both of which are bricks using extended batteries.
Ten years plus with O2 - goodbye, you really need to address the mobile internet costs, your tariff is beyond a joke - Mike
O2 are not selling the Orbit sim free as it is there "baby" and will only be released with a contract for now.
on my £20 contract o2 UK told me that i did not spend enough to justify a cheaper upgrade - the £200 was too much for me, considering they would have given me £100 to stay with my old imate jam (so £300 upgrade then).
so i cancelled, in writing. would have gone with o2 online.
i just received a text giving me a finishing date when someone from o2 called asking why i was quitting. he offered me a great deal:
100mins 400text £15/month and £100 for the orbit.
chuffed!
moral: i don't think o2 are so prepared to offer better deals if you just threaten to quit with them - but maybe if you get more serious....
Well I left O2, and when contacted the chap was most reasonable when I explained the reason for leaving was due to the high cost of the GPRS usage. He inquired which provider I was switching to - when I mentioned the Web n Walk contract he said little more, my mind was made up prior to the call.
No offer they could make would come close, there again it all depends how you use the device, at between 15 to 25MB per day when mobile I had to address the cost of GPRS - Mike
Can anyone tell me if the T-Mobile version of the O2 Orbit has Wi-FI I seen from an earlier post that this may not be the case. But I am not sure this is correct? thanks Jd76.
jdoherty76 said:
Can anyone tell me if the T-Mobile version of the O2 Orbit has Wi-FI I seen from an earlier post that this may not be the case. But I am not sure this is correct? thanks Jd76.
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Hi jd76 - it has not i am afraid - why they have done that seems madness but there you go
The T-Mobile MDA Compact-III as it is known does NOT have WiFi when supplied in the UK, certain other European versions of the T-Mobile MDA-C-III do have WiFi, so I guess its rip of Britain time again! that said the device is very good and combined with the GPRS Web & Walk you have internet where ever and when ever you like (its just a bit slow) - Mike
Thanks Meschle & Mikealder but I would prefer Wi-Fi built in so looks like O2 when time for upgrading...thanks..
us orbit?
when will artemis or orbit be available in the us?
O2 Best Deals
I went into the Watford store in the UK and said that I had my pac code with me from Vodafone and immediately got a free XDA Orbit (which comes unlocked) on a 12 mnth tariff for £35 a month (400 mins, 100 txt), and after 6 months I can lower my tariff. Just waiting for a 2gb micro sd now. £39.99 from play.com
Hi,
It may worth noting that other than for one month in last years contracr o2 never logged my GPRS usage.
I had a 6mb usage limit and according to their site I never used any of the allowance! Though in the one month they did log it they stung me for an extra £20.
As I never used my Wifi on my JAMin it was a no-brainer switching to T-Mobile and I got the same deal as one of the other posters @ £49 for phone Flext20 (£22.50 per month with WnW).
I was paying £24 with o2.
Regards

O2 XDA Orbit, whats in the box

I am thinking of buying and O2 XDA Orbit from the O2 Online shop, https://shop.o2.co.uk/phone/features/O2/XDA_Orbit
I wondering if anyone has bought one from O2 Online if so can you tell me what is in the box?
I notice from other thread that other purchasers that bought from O2 shop did not get the
GPS Software
Car Mount/Holder
MicroSD Card
Case
If no car mount is supplied does the HTC P3300 Brodit Car mount fit?
Cheers
Nick
I didn't get any of those, AFAIK they don't come with a card or a case, and you might get the software free or you might have to pay an amount to get it.
I bought a 1GB sandisk MicroSD card with SD adaptor and usb2 card reader all for £18.99 off eBay. Works great.
Pete. said:
I didn't get any of those, AFAIK they don't come with a card or a case, and you might get the software free or you might have to pay an amount to get it.
I bought a 1GB sandisk MicroSD card with SD adaptor and usb2 card reader all for £18.99 off eBay. Works great.
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Pete
Thanks for that, how do you mount it in your car?
Cheers
Nick
The O2 shops are doing Copilot free with an Oribt + tariff of £40 or higher. For tariffs below that they are charging £50 for the Copilot bundle.
O2 Online's website says Copilot is free with an Orbit and doesn't mention any restriction on tariff. This may be a mistake on their part but while they are advertising it like this I guess they have to honour it.
They list the Copilot bundle as;
In car charger
In car cradle
Gooseneck suction mount
256mb Micro SD card preloaded with UK/IRE maps
Full co-pilot software suite
bigyellowdog said:
The O2 shops are doing Copilot free with an Oribt + tariff of £40 or higher. For tariffs below that they are charging £50 for the Copilot bundle.
O2 Online's website says Copilot is free with an Orbit and doesn't mention any restriction on tariff. This may be a mistake on their part but while they are advertising it like this I guess they have to honour it.
They list the Copilot bundle as;
In car charger
In car cradle
Gooseneck suction mount
256mb Micro SD card preloaded with UK/IRE maps
Full co-pilot software suite
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Thanks for the info, I could not find what the Orbit comes with on there web site am I missing something or going to the wrong place?
Nick
I ride a bike seldom in a car but I would have paid an extra £50 for the copilot bundle had I known you get a car charger and cradle with it. I might phone O2 and complain, especially as the on/off button on my phone has developed an intermittent fault.
NickR, I don't think its on their website.
The info is from an official O2 branded PDF doc that O2 sent me after I rang to ask about the Orbit. I'd upload here but its bigger than this board allows. No other info behond what I've already posted though.
Cheers.
New orbit owner - set up question?
Hi all
Got the orbit today, can anyone suggest which of the set up is best for the phone - basic or corporate.
Great phone
Andy
bigyellowdog said:
NickR, I don't think its on their website.
The info is from an official O2 branded PDF doc that O2 sent me after I rang to ask about the Orbit. I'd upload here but its bigger than this board allows. No other info behond what I've already posted though.
Cheers.
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I ordered my Orbit today on the o2 online site, when I did inquire what was in the box they did not really have a clue, the chap went away and asked some and said there is only the copilot software included, hopefully I will get it tomorrow, I will let you know what is in the box.
I have now got to have a fight with the carphonewarehouse to try and get my PAC number without having to give them £180 to terminate my contract early. Anyway thats another story which would take up about 5 pages and is not relevant to this topic.
Cheers
Nick
andy1688 said:
Hi all
Got the orbit today, can anyone suggest which of the set up is best for the phone - basic or corporate.
Great phone
Andy
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Andy,
I did not think the o2 active stuff was in the Orbit? If you have not worked out which is best I will have a look tomorrow when I get mine?
What did you get in the box?
Cheers
Nick
In my box (bought from O2 store) I had...
Device
2 x Stylus
USB cable
Mains charger
Outlook CD
Applications CD (GPRS Moniter, PDF Viewer, USB modem driver)
User Guide
Quick Start Guide
Warranty card
Wired headset
On my tariff I would have had to pay an extra £50 for Copilot so didn't bother as I've already got TTN6.
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The O2 shops are doing Copilot free with an Oribt + tariff of £40 or higher. For tariffs below that they are charging £50 for the Copilot bundle.
O2 Online's website says Copilot is free with an Orbit and doesn't mention any restriction on tariff. This may be a mistake on their part but while they are advertising it like this I guess they have to honour it.
They list the Copilot bundle as;
In car charger
In car cradle
Gooseneck suction mount
256mb Micro SD card preloaded with UK/IRE maps
Full co-pilot software suite
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Hi,
I received my XDA Orbit this morning, you were correct, I got the :-
Online 25 tariff
XDA Orbit
Copilot Bundle
In car charger
In car cradle
Gooseneck suction mount
256mb Micro SD card preloaded with UK/IRE maps
Full co-pilot software suite
Thanks
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Originally Posted by bigyellowdog
The O2 shops are doing Copilot free with an Oribt + tariff of £40 or higher. For tariffs below that they are charging £50 for the Copilot bundle.
O2 Online's website says Copilot is free with an Orbit and doesn't mention any restriction on tariff. This may be a mistake on their part but while they are advertising it like this I guess they have to honour it.
They list the Copilot bundle as;
In car charger
In car cradle
Gooseneck suction mount
256mb Micro SD card preloaded with UK/IRE maps
Full co-pilot software suite
Hi,
I received my XDA Orbit this morning, you were correct, I got the :-
Online 25 tariff
XDA Orbit
Copilot Bundle
In car charger
In car cradle
Gooseneck suction mount
256mb Micro SD card preloaded with UK/IRE maps
Full co-pilot software suite
Thanks
Please help, I am currently having an arguement with o2 regarding what I should have recieved!!
I checked out the o2 website to look at the Orbit and decided to upgrade my current phone to it as it had the gps bundle for free. I called there online upgrades (O2 Retention) number and spoke to a guy for about 20 minutes regarding what deal he could do me.
I had to pay £99 to upgrade to the orbit (I was 6 months over my 12 month contract so thought they could have done a better deal than this!!) and I was told on the phone this would come with everything I needed and even came with an adapter to fix it to my car windscreen.
When the box arrived it is only just the phone and after 5 calls back to O2 they have said they never agreed to send me the sat nav kit. I am waiting for a call from a supervisor on Monday who has apparently listened to the call so I am going to ask for a copy of it because I think I should get what I was promised!!
Can anyone helo me with some advise on this as it seems some people have got it and others have not! I am now signed up to the online 25 tarrif for 18 months the same as NickR, and he got his with no hassle it would seem!!!
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Please help, I am currently having an arguement with o2 regarding what I should have recieved!!
I checked out the o2 website to look at the Orbit and decided to upgrade my current phone to it as it had the gps bundle for free. I called there online upgrades (O2 Retention) number and spoke to a guy for about 20 minutes regarding what deal he could do me.
I had to pay £99 to upgrade to the orbit (I was 6 months over my 12 month contract so thought they could have done a better deal than this!!) and I was told on the phone this would come with everything I needed and even came with an adapter to fix it to my car windscreen.
When the box arrived it is only just the phone and after 5 calls back to O2 they have said they never agreed to send me the sat nav kit. I am waiting for a call from a supervisor on Monday who has apparently listened to the call so I am going to ask for a copy of it because I think I should get what I was promised!!
Can anyone helo me with some advise on this as it seems some people have got it and others have not! I am now signed up to the online 25 tarrif for 18 months the same as NickR, and he got his with no hassle it would seem!!!
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I was surprised to get the kit, I may have got the kit because I was not upgrading? I had loads of hassle buying, got rejected once by o2's 3rd party credit company, I had to ring my credit card company then reorder the Orbit. It took me all afternoon. Then I had an argument with Carphone Warehouse to get my PAC number, it would have cost me £180 to cancel my contract so I now have 2 mobile phone contracts. It worked out cheaper doing nothing. I will cancel my contract with o2 next year.
Hope you have success with O2, I would have not been to bothered if I did not get the Copilot Kit, its crap! I have installed TOMTOM 5, bought a 1GB Sandisk Ultra II for £28 and will get a Brodit Active mount £35 when they are available.
The GPD on the Orbit is fantastic, locks on to sats in the middle of my house.
Good Luck
Nick
NickR said:
I was surprised to get the kit, I may have got the kit because I was not upgrading? I had loads of hassle buying, got rejected once by o2's 3rd party credit company, I had to ring my credit card company then reorder the Orbit. It took me all afternoon. Then I had an argument with Carphone Warehouse to get my PAC number, it would have cost me £180 to cancel my contract so I now have 2 mobile phone contracts. It worked out cheaper doing nothing. I will cancel my contract with o2 next year.
Hope you have success with O2, I would have not been to bothered if I did not get the Copilot Kit, its crap! I have installed TOMTOM 5, bought a 1GB Sandisk Ultra II for £28 and will get a Brodit Active mount £35 when they are available.
The GPD on the Orbit is fantastic, locks on to sats in the middle of my house.
Good Luck
Nick
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This is my first ever pda so new to it all, reading forum after forum to slowly learn how to do everything. Too scared to even turn it on yet!!! Currently downloading a version of Tom Tom 6.02 but i'm worried that if I start messing about with my XDA I will break it!!
Assuming things with O2 don't go my way, I've figured out I need to get:
1 - A SD memory card
2 - a memory card reader(???)
3 - A working version of TomTom
4 - A screenmount and cigarette power supply.
Is this right?? Being new to this whole thing the co-pilot kit would have been great for me as would have meant so much less hassle!!
How much did you have to pay for the phone NickR and are you on a 12 or 18 month contract??
wombat45 said:
This is my first ever pda so new to it all, reading forum after forum to slowly learn how to do everything. Too scared to even turn it on yet!!! Currently downloading a version of Tom Tom 6.02 but i'm worried that if I start messing about with my XDA I will break it!!
Assuming things with O2 don't go my way, I've figured out I need to get:
1 - A SD memory card
2 - a memory card reader(???)
3 - A working version of TomTom
4 - A screenmount and cigarette power supply.
Is this right?? Being new to this whole thing the co-pilot kit would have been great for me as would have meant so much less hassle!!
How much did you have to pay for the phone NickR and are you on a 12 or 18 month contract??
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I am on a 12 month contract,
Yes everything above is what you need to Navigate.
1 - A SD memory card (512mb min)
2 - a memory card reader(???) (not essential but is faster than uploading maps via activesync)
3 - A working version of TomTom (yes)
4 - A screenmount and cigarette power supply. ( would get a Brodit Clip and an Active Mount, the pda will just drop into the mount without having to mess around trying to connect the 12v charger.
Nick
NickR said:
I am on a 12 month contract,
Yes everything above is what you need to Navigate.
1 - A SD memory card (512mb min)
2 - a memory card reader(???) (not essential but is faster than uploading maps via activesync)
3 - A working version of TomTom (yes)
4 - A screenmount and cigarette power supply. ( would get a Brodit Clip and an Active Mount, the pda will just drop into the mount without having to mess around trying to connect the 12v charger.
Nick
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Many Thanks for all your help Nick. When they become available (I read on this forum the xda usb connection is 3mm different so you cannot get one yet) where do I get a "Brodit Clip and Active Mount"??
wombat45 said:
Many Thanks for all your help Nick. When they become available (I read on this forum the xda usb connection is 3mm different so you cannot get one yet) where do I get a "Brodit Clip and Active Mount"??
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They are not the cheapest but they are very helpful. The HTC P3300 brodit mount although is near enough the same device has a different shell to the Orbit will not fit without bodging the mount so Brodit are making one especially for the Orbit. They will be available soon so keep checking there web site.
http://www.dsldevelopments.com/models.asp?m=O2
Cheers
Nick
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They are not the cheapest but they are very helpful. The HTC P3300 brodit mount although is near enough the same device has a different shell to the Orbit will not fit without bodging the mount so Brodit are making one especially for the Orbit. They will be available soon so keep checking there web site.
http://www.dsldevelopments.com/models.asp?m=O2
Cheers
Nick
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Cheers, do they make them to fit to the windscreen though, or only to the air vents??
Reason I ask is because I am moving to spain in a few months so will obviously be changing my car. Although I think the air vent one would be better, a windscreen mount will be better for me as can use in any car.
wombat45 said:
Cheers, do they make them to fit to the windscreen though, or only to the air vents??
Reason I ask is because I am moving to spain in a few months so will obviously be changing my car. Although I think the air vent one would be better, a windscreen mount will be better for me as can use in any car.
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You have 2 choices that I know of,
1/ I have aclip which clips on my dash board.
2/ a suction mount
3/ or a vent mount
You the screw the PDA Mount to ether of those fixings. Give the chap at dsldevelopments a ring I am sure he would be happy to advise.

xda orbit DEALS!!

Does anyone know of the best place to buy one of these?
They seem to be getting dearer on ebay.£320 or so.
Perhaps this is still the best bet! Thanks.
You can get a 12 month deal in o2 shops for £35 -£40 per month for 12 months contract with a free Orbit
They give you £30 trade in for any old phone
You can ebay the co-pilot pack ( I got £60)
co-pilot pack
i have one of these co-pilot packs for sale.
comes with a 256mb micro sd and all tom tom maps of the uk
£60 inc p&p
collection is welcome from east london near east ham train stn
or contact me at [email protected]
Option 1: Get Orbit from O2 for free (£40/month 12 months)and sell Copilot on ebay.. you get around £60. You can keep the car holder and car charger that comes with it. Then get a TT6 software for around £80
Option 2: Get HTC P3300(Premium) from expansys (Pay £105, £35/month tariff). You get TT6 + Maps of Western Europe on DVD, Free Car cradle and car charger.
What are the differences? Simple.. if you buy O2 branded, you may need to SIM unlock if you want to use other sim cards that will cost you some money. Subscriptionwise, £40 x 12 = £480... £35 x 12 = 420 (£60 savings on Option 2)
Its just a small amount to pay after all for option 2 and no hassle... where as option 1 ... you need to do a lot of things blah blah blah.. and you get crap O2 software....
Its a big gamble getting these expensive stuffs from ebay... you never know what **** the seller has done to it why they are selling it!
This is only my own opinion, everyone has individual choices anyway... im just telling you mine.. kapeesh!!!
Thanks for your replys,and guidance.Have taken a chance and bought a two week old one from ebay.Cost £280 all in. Lets hope it comes ok,and is as described.Thanks
I'm very satisfied with the deal I made. Been previously with Vodafone. Requested PAC code and went to T-Mobile. Got 12 mth Web'n'Walk tarrif 32.5/mth with 1 GB data. Paid 29.99 for MDA Compact III with insurance but you can cancel it any time. I know, some ppl say NO WiFi but to be honest I don't see big disadvantage. Browsing on PPC does not give big difference between WiFi and GPRS. Having 1GB I don't need to look for hotspots and being at home I prefer to browse on big screen. I agree however with nm8 - everyone has different preferences.
P.S.
I've been using for about a year XDA Exec and on WiFi battery died so quickly that I used it so rarely that it wasn't big deal to have it. With GPRS it is perfect compromise between speed and power consumption.
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I'm very satisfied with the deal I made. Been previously with Vodafone. Requested PAC code and went to T-Mobile. Got 12 mth Web'n'Walk tarrif 32.5/mth with 1 GB data. Paid 29.99 for MDA Compact III with insurance but you can cancel it any time. I know, some ppl say NO WiFi but to be honest I don't see big disadvantage. Browsing on PPC does not give big difference between WiFi and GPRS. Having 1GB I don't need to look for hotspots and being at home I prefer to browse on big screen. I agree however with nm8 - everyone has different preferences.
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what do u mean no WIfI ???
cheerz, cudo
cudo said:
what do u mean no WIfI ???
cheerz, cudo
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Mean that Artemis version of T-Mobile's MDA Compact III does not have WiFi.
nm8 said:
Option 1: Get Orbit from O2 for free (£40/month 12 months)and sell Copilot on ebay.. you get around £60. You can keep the car holder and car charger that comes with it. Then get a TT6 software for around £80
Option 2: Get HTC P3300(Premium) from expansys (Pay £105, £35/month tariff). You get TT6 + Maps of Western Europe on DVD, Free Car cradle and car charger.
What are the differences? Simple.. if you buy O2 branded, you may need to SIM unlock if you want to use other sim cards that will cost you some money. Subscriptionwise, £40 x 12 = £480... £35 x 12 = 420 (£60 savings on Option 2)
Its just a small amount to pay after all for option 2 and no hassle... where as option 1 ... you need to do a lot of things blah blah blah.. and you get crap O2 software....
Its a big gamble getting these expensive stuffs from ebay... you never know what **** the seller has done to it why they are selling it!
This is only my own opinion, everyone has individual choices anyway... im just telling you mine.. kapeesh!!!
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1. O2 has cut back on its software to virtually nothing
2. O2 does not lock its XDAs (unique in the market)
Adigital said:
I'm very satisfied with the deal I made. Been previously with Vodafone. Requested PAC code and went to T-Mobile. Got 12 mth Web'n'Walk tarrif 32.5/mth with 1 GB data. Paid 29.99 for MDA Compact III with insurance but you can cancel it any time. I know, some ppl say NO WiFi but to be honest I don't see big disadvantage. Browsing on PPC does not give big difference between WiFi and GPRS. Having 1GB I don't need to look for hotspots and being at home I prefer to browse on big screen. I agree however with nm8 - everyone has different preferences.
P.S.
I've been using for about a year XDA Exec and on WiFi battery died so quickly that I used it so rarely that it wasn't big deal to have it. With GPRS it is perfect compromise between speed and power consumption.
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I use WiFi on my N560 to listen to online music especially at night I just plug in the wall charger... WiFi is also important to me because I need internet connection to access some software updates (www.epocrates.com). And I like to browse my emails occassionally when Im in bed (lazy me)

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