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Warezzzzz

I've said it a number of times, and I'll say it again: XDA-developers is not a tool for the distribution of copyrighted software by others that the owners of such copyright. Please refrain from posting warez in public messages.
This has nothing to do with any firmly held moral beliefs, but merely with the practical matter of the management of this site being unwilling to be punished for other people's crimes and misdemeanors. There are much more suitable forums for warez distibution, such as alt.binaries.warez.pocketpc on Usenet.
Please do not think I condoned the posting because I reacted late this time: I'm at a trade show this week. I strongly appeal to everyone's common sense in this matter: please keep us all out of trouble.
(There is a grey area: for instance older Wallaby ROMs that were never sold and are hard (and will become harder) to come by. These ROMs serve an obvious research purpose for this community, and since most were never sold posting them would not hurt anyone's financial interests. If the owner complained I'd still take them down, but I can see a time coming when these ROMs will be like Commodore 64 games.)

This resource is far too valuable to lbe lost for the sake of a few cracked
programs - let's keep our noses (nosezzzzz?) clean.

how can I connect to the usenet from xda2? I'm in the woods right now, so mda is my only connection...

To One and ALL!

Welcome to the Forum! Welcome to the Galaxy Tab Android Development! I am your Forum Moderator.
If you have any problems with this forum or suggestions to make, please contact me. I cannot promise to act on every single suggestion, but I will do my best to entertain each and every one of them to the fullest extent!
A>Please Read The Forum Rules,
B>Remember English is this Forum's main Language.
C>This was a surprise to me, but thankfully, unlike other Android and WM forums on XDA, I didn't find much of harassment in the forum, Let's keep it on a better standard.
D>For Chef's- Please don't, make hype and pre-announce a ROM if you are not sure when it is going to be complete and released.
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You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
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We understand that with all the different nationalities not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English use an online translator, You're free to include your original message in your own language below the English translation.
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6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.
7. Do not spam.
If you wish to advertise a product, contact us we provide ads. But do not post it in the forums, it will be removed and you're likely to receive a ban.
You are however allowed to sell used goods like your own device, parts of your device or accessories for your device in the marketplace forum, please read the rules there before posting. (This rule includes signatures, if you use a signature it will appear in your post)
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We appreciate all donations to xda-developers.com, it keeps our forum online and well maintained. As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.
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Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does not mean we agree with everything the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.
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If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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XDA policy towards registration and commerce?

Dear moderators,
As a daily user of these fora I'm confronted with a disturbing inconsistency in your rules and how they are applied.
You have several that intend to prohibit outright selling of ones product. XDA wants to be as a-commercial as possible.
Alas some rules -like rule 11- focus on a form instead of intent. The wish of a cook or developer to know his/her users differs quite a lot from the wish to obtain money from them.
One could argue that from an administrators point of view a registration procedure is easier to spot so that the XDA house can be kept clean. But then I would argue that the phrases "free version" and "paid version" are as easily spotted. If you want you can search your fora right now and you'd be surprised how many applications whose latest version is no longer free are actively being advertised. Or maybe you won't be surprised, but I was.
I have been a moderator for many years on many fora. I sympathise and I'm perfectly familiar with the need for rules to enable and optimise the moderators job.
Alas, I'm also perfectly familiar the fact that those rules don't allways fit.
Rule 11 doesn't fit. There are better ways to safeguard your intention.
respectfully,
Willing to help, but currently disappointed about what you did to laurentius26.

Hello and thank you for your post.
We cannot comment on individual cases; however XDA's rules are there to ensure that we have a framework to work from that everyone understands. Also individuals sign up to these rules when they join the site ie they accept the rules and agree to abide by them. As in real life, no one is above the law/no one is above the rules.
In terms of items being out there on the fora that might violate our rules, let's look at the reality of the situation: we have over 2 million users and, last time I looked, over half a million threads. No matter how big a moderating team and no matter how active we are we cannot get to every violation. We do rely on responsible members of the community to report breaches of the rules to us so we can act on them.
We look forward to you doing your part to ensure that the moderating team is made aware of breaches of the rules as and when you come across them.
WB (XDA Moderating Team)

HorstDCC said:
Dear moderators,
As a daily user of these fora I'm confronted with a disturbing inconsistency in your rules and how they are applied.
You have several that intend to prohibit outright selling of ones product. XDA wants to be as a-commercial as possible.
Alas some rules -like rule 11- focus on a form instead of intent. The wish of a cook or developer to know his/her users differs quite a lot from the wish to obtain money from them.
One could argue that from an administrators point of view a registration procedure is easier to spot so that the XDA house can be kept clean. But then I would argue that the phrases "free version" and "paid version" are as easily spotted. If you want you can search your fora right now and you'd be surprised how many applications whose latest version is no longer free are actively being advertised. Or maybe you won't be surprised, but I was.
I have been a moderator for many years on many fora. I sympathise and I'm perfectly familiar with the need for rules to enable and optimise the moderators job.
Alas, I'm also perfectly familiar the fact that those rules don't allways fit.
Rule 11 doesn't fit. There are better ways to safeguard your intention.
respectfully,
Willing to help, but currently disappointed about what you did to laurentius26.
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Thank you for your post, and you make perfectly valid arguments but let me ask you this: just as you pointed out the fact that some apps where free but are now paid, what prevents an outside source to go down the same road? Certainly not our rules, we have no power outside of xda. I fail to understand the need to require a registration to get something that has been free on xda forever (no registration required). Roms can easily be uploaded to sharing services (RS, Megaupload, etc)... I understand the convenience of having all your work in a single place, but again... why require registration?

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I would like to start off by welcoming all new and active users to the General Forum for the HTC Desire Z.
I am TheRomMistress (or TRM for short), your Forum Moderator. ​
I am here to help in anyway I can, so please contact me if you have any suggestions, problems, comments, etc. with this forum. While I cannot promise you will get an immediate resolution, or that I will be able to act on every suggestion, I can promise it will receive my attention.
With that being said, please take a moment to review XDA forum rules. Anyone found intentionally violating these rules will be punished.
The most important "rule" I urge you not to forget is, HAVE FUN and BE COURTEOUS! Thank you and I look forward to keeping "ORDer" and "Peace" throughout the forum.​​
FORUM RULES​
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
2. Member conduct.
2.1 Language: XDA is a worldwide community. As a result what is ‘ok’ to say in your part of the world may not be ok in someone else’s part of the world. Please think about who is reading what you write. Keep in mind that what you think of as acceptable use of language may not be acceptable to others. Conversely, while reading member posts, remember that word you find offensive may not be to the writer. Tolerance is a two way street.
2.2 Nudity: XDA is used by people of all ages, including minors. It's not acceptable to post nude/pornographic imagery, which includes exposure of the male or female genitalia or of female breasts.
2.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
2.4 Personal attacks, racial, political and/or religious discussions: XDA is a discussion forum about certain mobile phones. Mobile phones are not racial, political, religious or personally offensive, therefore none of these types of discussions are permitted on XDA.
2.5 New Members: Treat new members the way you would have liked to have been treated when you were a new member. Provide the new members with guidance, advice and instruction always with respect and courtesy.
2.6 All members are expected to read and adhere to the XDA rules.
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
4. Use the English language.
We understand that with all the different nationalities not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English use an online translator, You're free to include your original message in your own language below the English translation.
5. Post a message only once.
As a large forum we don't need unnecessary clutter, You're free to edit your message as you like, so if you do not receive an answer revisit your message and see if you can describe your problem better. Not everyone is online at the same time, it might take a while before you receive an answer.
6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.
7. Do not spam.
If you wish to advertise a product, contact us we provide ads. But do not post it in the forums, it will be removed and you're likely to receive a ban.
You are however allowed to sell used goods like your own device, parts of your device or accessories for your device in the marketplace forum, please read the rules there before posting. (This rule includes signatures, if you use a signature it will appear in your post)
8. Donations.
We appreciate all donations to xda-developers.com, it keeps our forum online and well maintained. As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.
9. Don't get us in trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does not mean we agree with everything the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
11. Don’t post with the intent on selling something.
As an elaboration to rule number 7, don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. If you are the proprietor of a for-pay product or service, you may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or offer support on the product, but you may not make any posts with the primary intent of selling. This includes posting press releases, announcements, or links to downloads for trial software; the only exception to this is when you’re posting an exclusive release to XDA. Off-site downloads are permitted as long as the site does not require a fee or mandatory registration to access the content.
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
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Terrarium and Morpheus Project Ended!?!

As of today I discovered a message at start up on both Terrarium and Morpheus that the are ending the projects. No real reason given besides "moving onto other projects"."
Any insight or suggestions on the next best thing available? Do you think these project will be taken over my someone else? Was it for legality reasons?
I'm curious about everyone's opinion

Forum Rules
6. Do not post or request warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, then pay for it. We do not accept warez nor do we permit members to request, post, promote or describe ways in which warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained or used. This is a site of developers, i.e. the sort of people who create such software. When you cheat a software developer, you cheat us as a community.
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9. Don't get us into trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things which will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably shouldn't do it here either. This does not mean that we agree with everything that the software piracy lobby try to impose on us. It simply means that you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with the legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users and those that write great code.
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I would say, Google would throw plenty of results when searching, XDA is trying to avoid these kind of talks
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