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[CHATTER THREAD] WM XDA Live v0.20.x

Here is where everyone can have general chatter and conversation about WMXL v0.20.x
To be honest, I'll spend most of my time in the REPORT ISSUES thread but please don't clutter that thread. I will check in here from time to time.
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Expected release 8pm GMT -6. Thats around 1am GMT+10 (THU) for me. Time to make an espresso.
On a serious note, your efforts are appreciated.
Now if my wife can stop nagging me it will be the icing on the cake.

Clean release
Thanks for the work!!!!
Do you have plans to release a clean release without phm and all the other apps installed....
(just pulling down 0.20 now!! Will test the sms voicemail notification issue to see if exists in this rom..)

I'm to be the first one.
Downloaded. Installing.

Got the ROM, now all I need is to get back to England, collect my repaired phone and start playing again...
Thanks for the great work - suggest you get some well deserved rest before all the questions start coming in (can I flash back to WM5 etc etc)

already done...beat ya

HAPPY
downloading now, got work in 20 minutes, bt what the hek, i will be late today.
thanks kyphur for ur work.

will posy on the emule network, I hate rapid...
in 8 min.
same exact file name.

HOHOHOHO!!! Thanks a lot for your works, Regards from Spain

I discover that, after upgrading radio to 1.35 (GPS enable), if u put the GPS drivers
Copy VRDriver.dll onto \Windows\
and the reg addings
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\VRSerial]
"Prefix"="COM"
"FriendlyName"="VR on COM6:"
"Dll"="VRDriver.dll"
"Order"=dword:00000003
"Index"=dword:00000006
"Manageport"=dword:00000005
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Serial]
"Index"=dword:00000005
"DevConfig"=hex:20,00,00,00,05,00,00,00,10,01,00,00,00,4b,00,00,00,00,08,00,00,\
00,00,00,00
"FriendlyName"="RIL on COM6:"
"DeviceType"=dword:00000000
"Order"=dword:00000002
"Prefix"="COM"
"DeviceArrayIndex"=dword:00000001
"IoLen"=dword:0000002c
"Irq"=dword:00000013
"IoBase"=dword:b6008000
"Tsp"="Unimodem.dll"
"Dll"="Serial_cmd.Dll"
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the phone won't start anymore...
To resolve this issue is necessary an hard reset.
U know if is the same for this release?
Tanks
VKXXV

Thanks Kyphur and the TEAM for this great release,
Guys Is there a need for a MIRROR link for 0.20 ? I've got enough space and great bandwidth...
Regards

yes mirror will be great, rapid share sucks for me. im in an endless loop telling me i gotta wait 60mins

Feel free to mirror the files. I want this to spread like wild-fire!!!
Better distribution than M$
dusank said:
Thanks Kyphur and the TEAM for this great release,
Guys Is there a need for a MIRROR link for 0.20 ? I've got enough space and great bandwidth...
Regards
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As GPS is not currently widely avaliable I will not be spending time on it.
vulkanxxv said:
I discover that, after upgrading radio to 1.35 (GPS enable), if u put the GPS drivers
the phone won't start anymore...
To resolve this issue is necessary an hard reset.
U know if is the same for this release?
Tanks
VKXXV
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already I installed xda 0.20.1 and is very good, but me he does not appear sreen of the telephone. What well to make?

tcruz said:
already I installed xda 0.20.1 and is very good, but me he does not appear sreen of the telephone. What well to make?
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They forgive, but after all already hard is corrected with hard reset

I don't remember WM5 having this but yes apparently with WM6 you can increase Free Storage Memory by stripping out files.
I noticed this when after I embedded Adobe Acrobat. That is why I released two Roms. I actually flashed an older (RTM) WM6 Rom which had an insane amout of Free Storage Memory, like 62mb but there were no office files and I didn't bother looking into that else was missing...
Still planning on a clean Rom. I want to let this one run for a few days first to see if I broke anything new in it . The Beta team didn't find anything major or new but we only ran on it for a few days so that you guys could get your hands on it.
CCRDude said:
does the different "Free Storage Memory" actually mean that the storage space the user has later on to install software is affected by what is installed in the ROM? I thought that I had read that all this pre-installed stuff wouldn't.
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For some reason It will not let me flash my T-Mobile UK Vario2 to your 0.20.
The program detects my current ROM, then when I click "Update" it says "Verifying the information on your Hermes" for around 30 seconds. After that an error prompt saying "Error 260 : Update Error"....
Any Ideas?

Nice.... Loading it now... I'll Let you know.. Thank you so much Kyphur...

Spuddy said:
For some reason It will not let me flash my T-Mobile UK Vario2 to your 0.20.
The program detects my current ROM, then when I click "Update" it says "Verifying the information on your Hermes" for around 30 seconds. After that an error prompt saying "Error 260 : Update Error"....
Any Ideas?
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Resolved, needed to remove security pin. May be useful for other users to do the same who have problems...

Google Navigator 2.4

I am installing "Google Navigator 2.4" and it leaves me the following message in the screen: "Current ROM driver is not support Direct 3D feature!. You can try to fixthis this problem by update a new ROM for your device". ¿Can you solve?, or I must return to another previous version.
Version 3.3
Thanks

wow never knew such an app existed
Any aussies tried that? How does that match against TomTom? (Usability wise)

I have the same problem.
some idea on like resolving it?
thanks

me too.... =.="
maybe need to wait for the new version to resolove this problem...

I have the same problem.

I have the same problem. FAMAN 3.3

Also a "me too", perhaps if someone doesent have this problem could post some info.

I have installed the rom l it original and. ......... it works O.K.!. Then I have proven with the ROM 3.2 and 3.3 and it doesn't work. It is a directx problem.
greetings

so what should we do to let it work ?
please , welcom to any suggestion

Wow, this program looks pretty darn cool. If anyone has any idea on how to get it to work that would be awesome. I sure would not mind a GPS navigation google earth. It could give my Tomtom a run for its money, since the maps are always free and up to date ^^

I know that Direct3d on the p3600 can be very picky on what options you use to create the device and I'm guessing he might have used the default D3DMFMT_D16.

So which rom version does this program work with, if any? (possibly a link to the rom download for that particular rom would be nice too if it is available)

exactly
we would like to try it , could anybody indicate how use it , wich rom let it work?

This was the develpoers answer
I sent an email to the developer and this was the response.
Hello,
Thank you for your eamil.I am now deveploping a version that do not need direct3d support.This will finished in few days.I will send you message after finished.
best regards.
Quoting Todd
> Hello,
>
> I am using a ATT 8525 (HTC Hermes) using WM6 and your software simply
> won't work. I actually get a notification that reads;
>
> "Direct3D Current ROM driver is not support [sic] Direct3D feature!
> You can try to fix this by update [sic] a new ROM for your device."
>
> What is it that I need? I have CF 2.0 as part of the OS.
>
> Your product looks great, if I can get it to work I would buy it.
>
> Todd

would like to be updated
sounds great and I will be happy to get notified when that new version is coming so I can test it with bepe's since it does not work with the official version now.
Remo

Awesome! I can not wait to try it out. We should send the developer an email and have him integrate the Google traffic information into his program. I wonder if that is in his plans.

sweet
please get back to us when that version is developed
thanks!

doesnt seem to work with any rom

Got an email from the developer, who had me run a test on my phone and send him the results so he could get it working on the Trinity. Lets hope he fixes it soon for us ^^

I think the program can be wonderfoul...
I use GPSdash with maps saved on google earth so.. no more traffic to use it..
I'd like to try as soon as possible...

WM6 for the Moto Q?

I have used the search feature on this forum with no results for WM6 for my Motorola Q. It says "Radio Version Q2-BP_C_06.0C.05P,Q2 Portable" if that helps anyone any. It's running Windows Mobile 5.0 (OS 5.1.195 Build 14960.2.4.0) and I just wanted to know if there was an upgrade I could get ahold of. If so, could someone link me to it or link me to the forum thread? The search for "Motorola Q" kept giving me an error stating that (Q) didn't serve as a high enough peremeter and I kind of figured it wasn't seeing Motorola for some reason (only God knows why).

I've come here looking for the same thing as I've heard that one existed...anyone?

llebcire said:
I've come here looking for the same thing as I've heard that one existed...anyone?
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i have the newer version and full firmware , all data will be wiped , please remember that you read warning that if you flash this you will format device to factory settings , ill compress the file and attach it on next thread ok guys

NOOB's Kitchen

Hi eveyrone.
Background: I have been playing with the new Manilla from XBMod, but in doing so I have had to change my ROM. Previously was on a DUtty v4 ROM which I loved as it was a simple clean and fast ROM.
Now compared to Dutty's all other so far are Bloated and/or slugish (even before I put the manilla2 on).
Anyway I decided to see what it takes to make my own. I looked into it and found a nice simple basic tutorial with video here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782
Now this is really basic. I do need to learn a bit but I need some help in finding some information. Little things like how to edit the registry or how to change the boot image. Also need to find all the updated HTC apps, and a list of what HTC apps are available and/or ported.
Before someone tells me to use search or "google is your friend" I know that.
I can find out what each package does before I remove them and such. I can also find out how to do allot of these things too, but if you actually use the search also then you will find nearly everything is based on modifying an already installed ROM and not doing it in the Kitchen.
On top of all this I doubt I am the only person looking for a clean fast ROM so I will be releasing this to everyone. I would appreciate any suggestions for what to include and what registry edits to do. And would really appreciate a master chef coming by and helping a new apprentice chef.
Much appreciated for anyones help. (Remember I havn't asked for others to do it, I am asking for some help to learn it.) Lets just hope I don't burn anything...... .

Nothing?
No one wants a Simple Light Upto date ROM??

Kinda funny isn't it.
If I just waited around and asked who had what and all that, I would be flamed to a crisp and get told to read and use search. Just so you know I just used search for "OEM HTC" and got NOTHING.
I have been using the forums for about 6 months now and now I have decided to put my little bit of effort in, no one is interested in helping...
I always say that I only help those whom help themselves. I have and am currently helping myself, but I do need a little hand mainly to point me in the right direction.

Anyone?
Doesn't anyone want a simple ROM that is mearly a set of performance tweaks and updated OS and Updated Default HTC Apps?

Here's you answer - download one of teh full kitchens available (like Sulliers or Mondilv) and make it yourself.
Other way - download latest OEM rom (there's thread for that), ervius kitchen, and cut away to your liking - you will have your "latest light rom".
This is exactly what it is about. Either be ready and donate to the chefs who do such things (cook for demand for payment) or get behind the keyboard and start cooking. it's not that difficult...
This is how I started - got the kitchen, and step by step I go forward. I can't call myself a cook - I only know how to tweak a bit little things, but I'm learning. I suggest you start too
If you are searching for "clean, fast ROM" look no further than Mondilv's kitchen - probably the fastest Rom available now (if we are to trust Pietrucci's benchmarks, and I see no reason why not). Since it;s a kitchen you can do whatever you want to it. And if you are asking "how to edit registry" then maybe your searching skills aren't that good... This like the most basic thing....
Happy cooking!

Good to see people actually read.
At no point did I ask for a ROM. I do recall mentioning that I have downloaded a kitchen and am playing with it.
I did mention that I have searched and my skills in searching are perfectly fine. Considering that fact that I have found the registry information but NOT in XDA.
THe problem with XDA is that if you are to be succesfull in a search you must already know what you want to find (and therefore know the terminology to search for) which then means why search at all seeing you already know. And if you happen to find something you have to read the thread for a week to find the only single post within it that actually gives you an answer.
If you had read my first post properlly and understood it, you would realise I am after information TOO LEARN IT...... but maybe I'll take your suggestion and LEARN it instead.
It really pisses me off when people reply withou fully reading the post, and then tells me exactly what I said I am doing.
For all you know I could be a potential contributer to these threads and you have just destroyed my respect for the people on these threads. Thankyou for your lack of any real help.

Oh and one last thing, I was wrong with the last bit of my first post.
If I ask for the ROM I get flamed, If I ask for help to learn to build a ROM I get told to make a ROM or download one.
Catch 22 around here. Can't ask for help and can't get help. I wanted to build one but if this is the **** I am going to cop just cause I want to learn something and contribute, then its not worth jack ****.
And who are you to say if I have or havn't donated to other ROM Builders.

I would love to try your basic clean ROM, without all the pre installed applications. I have been looking for an up to date naked ROM, but haven't been able to find one.
Good Luck!!!

Well my intention is not a "Naked ROM" but a bare essentials one.
Just updated versions of all the apps that come with a HTC ROM and update OS Core, .NET etc.
Bare Minimum Apps.

good luck man. hope its super fast too.. and stable.

Can someone please point me to an UPDATED list of HTC OEM App Version and hopefully downloads.
I don't mind Ripped stuff, like from TouchFlo2 etc, but I want to leave out beta buggy stuff untill they are are fixed. For example I would want HTC Notifications as it seems to work well (unless I am just lucky) but I won't put in the TouchFlo3D 2 as it is still buggy and unstable.
Oh and VGA versions if possible for my Touch Diamond

Oh and were can I find a 21xxx+ version ROM that I can use?

Hmm, so I want to help, and the best you can do is smirk at my recommendations, and you just carry on:
can you point me here, can I have that or this, and oh, can it be VGA, and possibly with chocolate?
Man, I'm sorry, but there is something wrong. All the info you are looking for IS on this forum. I can't believe that you searched and didn't found. You either search the diamond forum, or use general forum search (which is google) and you just follow the links.
I don't want to belittle you nor argue with you. But just take a second and look at the way how ALL internet forums work. The first thing you do to gain credibility on any forum is to search, learn, then try to help. The last thing you do is to show up, and ask for links "on a platter" in rather demanding manner, and then criticize the answer. I just had a look on your posts and it seems that this is what you do. You repeatedly ask for ready solutions, and when people tell you to search, you are annoyed, or ask "does anybody read posts on this forum?"
I will say just this - google "netiquette" or "how to behave on internet forums".
Good luck in your search for perfect ROM for you.

And here you go not providing any form of help at all.
You say If I did search I searched the Diamond threads or used the Google search..
I have used the google one yes. And I have used the built in search searching for DIamond threads yes.
Now you imply that searching the Diamond is wrong??? I am own a Diamond so why not search the diamond threads.
This is exactly what I am talking about regarding the useless comments of "search the forums" crap I keep reading against any noob.
Instead of pointing people in the right direction you guys just simple say search.
There also seems a limit of more than 3 letter word length to search in the forum search. Cause each time I search OEM or HTC or HTC OEM then it returns No results.
Ontop of all that if and only IF I do actually find something then I have to spend hopurs upon hours readying all the Good job, well done comments before I find the one tiny little comment that actually has the answer. At that rate, for a noob trying his hand at cooking it would take 6 Months to actually find all the answers.
And now you come back and tell me to search, and worst still you tell me that searching for Diamond Rom Development info in the Diamond forums is wrong also. Were was the part that told me were to search?

it seems quite some posts are missing here... xda-developers did a restore from a backup or something after the mess last night? .
Anyway, eangulus. This is what I have so far:
- Started with a stock 2.03 WWE ROM.
- Put in a 21042 SYS + XIP (so it's now 21042 build)
- After that ripped out some stuff:
- NetCF (because it's 2.0 now I installed 3.5 from CAB, we need the OEM for it)
- Manilla
- Opera (I guess we want a newer build)
I also needed to remove it from the 'auto setup' list
- Windows Live
- MP3 Trimmer
- RSS Hub
- AdobePDF
- Cyberon VoiceSpeed dial
- Google Maps (Because we want a newer build or nothing at all)
Also needed to remove it from the 'auto setup list'
- JBedJava
- ZIP
- Office OneNote
- SampleMusic
- SQLCeMobile (Leave the SQLCE engine in)
- Transcriber
The whole thing build nicely, the final .nbh is 86.5mb.
There are a lot of things that can be stripped more ofcourse, and it doesn't have
any 'tweaks' included yet. Stuff I still gotta learn / try out.
Also converting cabs to oem/packages is on the agenda , and see what is easy from
the rhodium / topaz oems to include.
After the flashing and first boot I installed the older STock keyboard (bigger T9) because I still prefer it, installed newer google maps and installed the latest Rhodium Manilla from xboxmod. Runs fine and speedy (still can be faster by cooking it in though).
The notification enhancement works by installed a certain cab afterwards (not the one included in Rhodium Manilla), but Menu Enhancement and the 'manilla start menu' won't work.
My 21038 build that I was working with in the beginning seems just broken or something, because the 21042 XIP/SYS I used worked flawlessy. So I was doing it ok all along, just had broken files .
So, what now from here?

To get you a bit started:
In the end I used bebe's kitchen (http://www.darkforcesteam.com/showthread.php?p=3560). You need to create a user on that forum and wait till they 'approve' you to access the thread though.
In the thread there are a couple of video's posted how to get you started. I watched them, understood them and then started cooking and it worked . I don't know if bepe wants his files freely posted everywhere so I'll let you to get them yourself.
The ROM I used I actually downloaded from the HTC site (http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=133&cat=2&dl_id=483). Entered my serial number and got the .exe with the ROM (the ruu_signed.nbh can be extracted by using WinRAR from the .exe).
The XIP/SYS I used are from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497586
Bepe's kitchen works with a OS.nb files (not .nbh files) so I used NBHUtil to extract it from the .NBH. NBHUtil was included in another kitchen, I got it from there. The kitchen it was included is actually an 'extended' bepe-kitchen, so you might want to play around with that one too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469420.
But in the end, I only used NBHUtil.exe from it .
In his video on how to port a newer build to your kitchen, he uses a complete newer ROM as a starting point. He extracts the XIP/SYS from that. If you do it like me, you don't have a complete newer ROM but only a XIP/SYS downloaded from this forum. They give you a os.nb.payload and a SYS folder. So you skip the part that extract those from a ROM and just instead use the files downloaded.
And that's pretty much it. With those files and the (short!) video tutorial's on Bepe's thread in darkforcesteam.com I managed it make something. (video on starting a kitchen from a ROM, and a video on how to port the XIP/SYS from another ROM to your kitchen). Try it, if you get stuck I'll help you. It isn't hard at all!

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sorry

razkal1 said:
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sorry
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razkal1 said:
here is .net 3.5
delete your ntcf forlder in sys and replace with this one
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I actually have it already but thanks for helping out!

Trying out bebe's kitchen and trying an Upgraded OS build as we speak. Not as friendly as some of the other kitchens but with the vid's it is pretty straight forward thou.
Any luck in finding an updated list of HTC OEM Version Numbers and exactly what HTC OEM apps are available for us to package into it?
Im not going to do the manilla yet as I think its still a fraction too buggy. THe main one being atm is being out by 1 hour.
Once its much more stable and bug free then I'll package it. I do want the new notifications and menus thou. they seem to be workig OK.
ALso not sure if this is a HTC app or not but I have seen a new Wifi connection tool. It gives you a list of Wifi available in a Manilla Look, you then just click on one to connect. Do you know what that is called and who does that?

Also do I have to convert the .nb file to a .nbh again?

XperiaTweak2 Error.

Hello!
After watching this forum quite a while, i decided to post my problem here.
So hello!
Well, i bought my Xperia x1, 2ndhand. He put Windows Mobile 6.5 on it, and the Xperia x2 rom. The problem now is, that i cant use Xperiatweak(2)!
I've download the cab file, and installed it on my phone, that works correct. When i search for it in my menu, i see the app with the right icon, and when i open it i get an error.
'An unexpected error has occurred in XperiaTweak.exe.
Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.'
I think its because it recognize my phone as a xperia x2!
Well, I hope you guys can help me!
Ciao,
Mart.
Sorry for my English!

Use version 1.9
Do a Google search on "xperia tweak" then the first hit is www.cliffords.nu/ which not working ATM, but use the stored version link to get the google stored version which is working. On the bottom you can find the links but I post here the direct links:
XperiaTweak 2.0 (for the old firmware, R1AA017):
http://www.freewebs.com/henkenelson/XperiaTweak2.CAB
XperiaTweak 2.0 (for the new Firmware, R2AA006, or later versions)
http://www.freewebs.com/henkenelson/...eriaTweak2.CAB
If you for some reason want the older version 1.9, here it is:
http://www.freewebs.com/henkenelson/XperiaTweak19.CAB

I download the version 1.9 and it works!
Is there a big difference between the newest and this one?
Thanks in advance!
Mart.