Hi all,
The problem most of us experience is that microsoft removed the function of configuring com ports in their Pocket PC Version 4 build.
I have a program that can sort out the com port problems between the bluetooth and gps software.
I have included the program as an attachment, just unzip it into your PC, make sure you reboot your PDA, sync your PDA to the PC and run setup.
Problems solved.
Cheers,
John
i thought it was only the automatic comport handleing that was removed so you just have to manually set a com port it 2 second of a job
XDA comports
It seems that Microsoft left out our ability to configure com ports altogether. If you try and do a manual configuration with the GPS software it will drive you crazy. I have had so many emails at my hotmail account from people with problems that I have sent this program to and it has fixed thier problem. That is why I decided to put it up here.
Cheers,
John
Hi,
I have downloaded and installed the file to my PDA
What else do i have to do?
The read me file is in a different language and i cant read
Thanks
CoZZa
Bluetooth GPS problem
I have updated the zip file to include a new readme file.
Please follow the instructions.
Unzip file to PC
Reboot PDA.
Sync PDA to PC.
Run Setup.exe
Problem should be fixed, if not reinstall GPS software.
Cheers,
John
Hi John,
Thanks for that.
I tried it and it doesnt appear to have fixed it.
I installed the patch rebooted phone, removed TomTom6 and reinstalled and still cant connect to bluetooth headset, uninstall TomTom6 put on TomTom5 and works, back to 6 still no go.
Any other suggestions?
Cheers
Hi Cozza,
Sorry you are still having a problem, only thing I can suggest is to see if anyone else has a similar problem with TomTom 6, if so you may have to contact them direct and ask for technical assistance.
Just had another thought, could Tom Tom 6 be taking over the port assigned to the headset by default, if so maybe installing the headset after TomTom 6 might work???
Cheers,
John
Hi John,
Yep i have tried that.
Have formatted the phone several times both installing the Bluetooth Car Kit before and after TomTom 6 and still no luck.
TomTom 5 works fine but as soon as updated to TomTom6 Car Kit wont connect, it finds it but just 'connection failed'.
Remove TomTom6 and thinks work OK.
Weird....
Hmmm - What should be different?
I've installed this application, but I still don't see anyway to change either:
1. which port the bluetooth app assigns to the connection (currently port 7)
2. the selection of ports available from TomTom 5.21 to make a connection.
Like everyone else, I've gone through all the port options in TomTom, and it still doesn't connect to the GPS. Other GPS software (everything else I've ever tried - a LOT of software) has no problem connecting to my GPS, so this is obviously a TomTom problem.
Thanks!
Jason Silver
I made Headway!
I finally found something to help!!
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3236
The above is a step-by-step guide. The key for my HP6325 (63xx series) was to not connect to BlueTooth, but "Other NMEA GPS." After that, the port connection through Bluetooth worked.
Yeah!
Jason
Detecting GPS on xda mini
Hi guys..
i'm a newbie.
have installed smartST on my xda2 mini with a navman 4110.
i can't seem to get my gps to talk to my xda.
the bluebooth picks up nothing. ie there is no device on the listing.
any ideas?
thx
bluetooth GPS
Hello,
I have included the program as an attachment, just unzip it into your PC, make sure you reboot your PDA, sync your PDA to the PC and run setup.
Problems solved.
Cheers,
John
I'm going mad
Hi all, I'm new to all this so please be patient
I've tried John's quick fix and it didn't work for me
It was all working fine up to last week when my sim card packed up, since I've put the new one in it can't find my GPS.
Can anybody please help, before I sling it out the window.
I have a XDA EX and a Holux gps, whit TomTom 5
Thanks bigbird49
hi
just a quickie to say thank you for this. I have tried adding ports, upgrading rom, using tomtom 6 & 5 to no avail. now pleased to say its working thanks to you and your programme.
Wizard GPS settings after GPS in phone is unlocked
I own a T-Mobile MDA (Wizard) with the 3-0-0 upgraded ROM and need the GPS settings after GPS in phone is unlocked. Anyone know how to do this?
Related
Having trouble with my installation of tom tom 3. I have paired and connected successfully numerous hands free kits to my spv M2000 and all work fine until I install Tom tom 3. After the installation I can no longer connect to any of the handsfree kits. I am remove them and pair them again but the connection fails after they are paired. This happens before I install my Bluetooth GPS receiver.
Tom tom works fine as does the GPS.
I have spoke to Tom tom who say that the software locks down the Com port (6). and that my handsfree kit may use the same port. Is there any way of setting the com port used by your handsfree kit? Or if anyone has any other suggestions
cheers
Onmartin
When I start tomtom, I ALWAYS lose the hands-free bluetooth connection. I simply switch off my Bluetooth earpiece & turn it back on again. It connects fine and works OK (well as good a BT gets on these devices).
You could try reconnecting to your car kit after tomtom has initialised. Simply press the today button and the use the BT manager to reconnect.
For this reason, I have reassigned a button to tomtom so that I can quickly switch back to it after connecting back to my headset
I use a simple O2 Bluetooth headset, not a full car-kit
Thanks, but I can't even start bluetooth handsfree once tom tom is installed. I have tried your method but still no joy in connecting. any other ideas??
nah, sorry; I can only say what works for me. But then again somebody more knowledgeable might be able to help, I'm a newbie myself
You need to reinstall the Bluetooth stack AFTER you have installed TT3 as TT3 overwrites 2 files to old (2003) ones (BtCoreIf.dll & BtSdkCE30.dll)
You can find the BT stack in the WiKi
Good luck!
thanks i'll give it a go and reort back
What a a star !!!! worked like a treat. thanks dutch
I've exactly the same problem.
Noob on the site - I've searched wiki but cannot find the BT stack as mentioned. Any chance of posting a link with instructions on how to update?
Cheerz
Chicago
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Bluetooth_1.0.0.3900_Upgrade
Thankz Dutch
Followed the instructions when I got home this-afternoon - spot on - my BT earpiece is up and running again.
PS Just need a "hack" so the tomtom navigator instructions come through the BT earpiece now!
Thanks again
Chicago
Has this got anything to do with the message when starting TT3 "Cannot open com1 port does not exist"? I have had TT3 installed before no problem, but after unlocking XDA2 I cannot get the TT3 software to work due to this error message.
@chicago: try this version of wavedev.dll: http://www.thb-service.de/download/MDAIII/Wavedev.dll
@geoff247: you need to uncheck our IR incoming beam in Settings-Connections-Beam
Grtz,
DUTCH
"com1 does not exist" message disappeared with one click of "uncheck incoming IR beams" amazing! Thanks Dutch, TT3 works again!
Geoff
silly question, but where do you put the wavedev.dll ??
:?:
onmartin
Has anyone seen some competitive navigation software such as PocketMap Navigator USA (www.pocketmap.com) and OnCourse Navigator 4 (www.oncoursenavigator.com)? Until TomTom 5 comes out, 2004 is a step down and version 3 is just too slow and buggy.
@onmartin
In the windows directory - there is already a wavedev.dll file there which is hidden.
thanks dutch, but when I go to copy it I get access denied message. Tried a restart then copy but same happens. it says to check the file is not in use or write protected. it's not in use but I can't see it to see properties of file( i have set it to display all files) any ideas?
onmartin :?
Did you try this using ActiveSync (so on your desktop PC?)
Dutch, you are a genius!! thanks again
onmartin
hi there
new to this forum which looks very interesting. Hence asking answer for a problem.
i have bought a Holox BT-321 gps receiver which is blue tooth enabled and i am trying my xda exec to recognise it. aftre turning both devices on xda can see the receiver but puts a yellow question mark before its name.
when turn the gps software on ((Medion Navigator) it does not recognise presence of the gps receiver.
i have great hopes that out there some one does know the answer to this.
to me it appears a software conflict as xda can not install this receiver.
i have tried O2 but they politely refused and asked me to contact gps receiver makers who in turn say the receiver is working fine!!
i was about to pay for a software pathway for sale at ebay but it had been banned by the ebay.
so help please
mohammad asif
Assuming that you did set a port for it (not sure whether it's incoming or outgoing) on the Exec for the GPS unit, you'll probably have to set the port to see the GPS unit on the software also.
That's how I got my GPS unit to work with my software. Please note that the software and the GPS unit that I'm using are not the same as yours. So results might vary.
I too am having exactly the same issues with the Holox 321 and o2 Exec. If anyone has had success pairing a using these two devices and can post a step-by-step walkthrough on how to do it I'd be very grateful.
Thanks.
MDA Pro and BT321
I have got exactly the same problem. It seem that the bluetooth works but the GPS receiver is not recognised. I was thinking of it could be missing drivers or something along those lines
I'm seeing a trend...
hi all,
My m8 has one of them on an XDA2i and the only way we could get it working with TT5 was to set it up as other NMEA GPS on com 6, that did the trick
hope that helps
Thanks BBD, that may help. Trouble is though, I can't even get it to pair correctly. The Exec seems to go through the motions, but the blue light that's meant to flash whenpairing is successful just stays solid.
I also get the question mark appear next to the device in the list of BT devices. What OS is your friend using? WM5 or PPC2003?
hi m8,
he is using WM2003SE, he two has the question mark beside his device I think that just means it does not have a Windows Certificate nothing more, just cheked my TOMTOM device has the question mark too and that works fine
Matt
hi,
just double checked and this is how it worked, pair the GPS receiver up, then go into TomTom and use the NMEA devices with baud rate of 38400 then select bluetooth on com6 and bingo bango your off
cheers
Matt
I think my problem occurs before TT5 is even invloved. From what I've seen WM2005 is very different from PPC2003 as far as BT goes.
I search for a new device and the BT-321 is seen as normal. I select it then enter the sec. key; ok so far. then I'm ask what services I want to use (only "serial port" is available). I select this, then finish. At this point I expect the blue BT light to start flashing telling me I have a successful pairing, but it stays solid. I have tried creating a new outgoing port, but no change.
Until I can get a successful pairing my BT port doesn't appear in the list in TT5, so I can't select it.
I wish I could find someone who has successfully paired these two devices...
Bump.
I can pair my mini s to the bluetooth reciever, but not tt5
i have paired my bluetooth reciever with my xda mini s but when i go to select it in tt5 none of the comports correspond with any i can pair the reciever with. I have installed bttools but this hasnt helped either. someone suggested i needed to build a com port but i dont know where to start, and they also said its because its an xda that theres comport problems, i donubt im the first one with this issue. i pray someone can help me out, would be much appriciated.
email [email protected]
Same problem on my Wizard with the Gpslim 236. However, my fiend brought over his rikaline last night and it worked very quickly. Go figure. I think I'll be exchanging today.
I got the BT321 working with the Universal no problem.
It paired okay, gave me the COM Port option which I took, showed the icon with ? on it.
Going to the COM Ports tab, I created an outgoing port (COM0).
In TT5.21 (I think you need the latest version of TT5) I selected COM0 and after a while it found it no problem..
F.
paring xda exec + gps holux 236
i did pare the 2 after updating tomtom to 5.21 free from tomtom web site then u get com 8 were u can set the outgoing port from the xda ,voila
I have XDA EXEC and have successfully installed the Holux BT-321 Bluetooth GPS. It runs perfectly with a number of GPS applications - so I know the port/Bluetooth configuration is ok. I had to choose an unused com port (0 or 4 work fine). (Ports 1,2,3,6,7,and 9 seem to be already used by the XDA EXEC - so could not be seleted).
BUT (going back to the first post) Medion Navigator (4.2) does NOT recognise the new GPS port. Instead it has options to select ports com1,2,3,6,7,9 but not the "new" port where the GPS is actually configured!
Does anyone have any ideas about this?
After several hours trawling forums and trying lots of things here's what worked for me on an XDA Exec running WM5. In fact I was shocked when it worked! In return for this can someone please think up the next thing after Toothache! The WM5 bluetooth connection thing could also do with a re-write - as could the WM5/XDA Exec instructions/FAQs/help, etc... on BT:
If your aim is to get TomTom working AND you're using a non-TomTom BT GPS, try this (the TomTom GPS seems to install itself without much problem):
1. Pair the GPS with your device BEFORE installing TomTom, because the GPS port needs to be already setup on your device for TomTom to recognise when installed.
2. Then install TomTom
3. Launch the BT connection thing in WM5. Make sure the BT is discoverable (first tab). Select 'Security' tab and ensure 'Authentication (Passkey) required is checked.
4. Go to 'Devices' tab and select 'new partnership...' The pairing thing should find your GPS and will then ask for the passkey - select next WITHOUT entering anything even if there's a passkey. If you enter the passkey now you will not get step 5 which is a crucial milestone.
5. The device should now ask if you want to add the GPS to your list, select yes
6. The name of the GPS is shown. Ensure 'serial' port is checked and hit next
7. You will be asked for the passkey again - enter it this time
8. At this point the GPS may look like it's not paired. The lights may flash as if unpaired. You'll also get a question mark icon next to the GPS in your list. Not to worry.
9. Select 'com ports' tab and select 'new outgoing port'. You should see your GPS listed. Select it and hit next. From the list of ports select COM8. Make sure the 'Secure connection' is UNCHECKED - otherwise you'll be pairing everytime you start TomTom! Select Finish. You should see your GPS (COM8) listed in 'COM ports' tab.
10. Turn off 'device is discoverable' (first tab).
11. Now install TomTom. Having installed the GPS as above, TomTom will now know about COM8 i.e. where your GPS is to be found. If you hadn't done that first there would be no COM8 and no GPS connected to it as far as TomTom is concerned.
12. Turn on the GPS
13. Launch TomTom and go to 'preferences/ GPS Settings'. Select 'configure'. Select 'Other bluetooth GPS'
14. You should get a list of ports and with any luck you should see 'COM8' - select it and hit 'done'.
15. I think at this point the GPS page in TomTom came alive, or maybe I had to restart TomTom - can't remember. And it works thus far!
Toothache - what a palaver!
BT/GPS Problems
Hi,
I have a program that can sort out the com port problems between the bluetooth and gps software.
I have included the program as an attachment, just unzip it into your PC, make sure you reboot your PDA, sync your PDA to the PC and run setup.
Problems solved.
Cheers,
John
bigbird49 said:
Hi,
I have a program that can sort out the com port problems between the bluetooth and gps software.
I have included the program as an attachment, just unzip it into your PC, make sure you reboot your PDA, sync your PDA to the PC and run setup.
Problems solved.
Cheers,
John
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
I`m a new member.After installing your litle tool i can`t start this application and also can`t find it under programs or anywhere else?
I`m using a T-Mobile MDA Compact II with WM5 latest ROM, a Holux BT321 and TomTom6. `have expierences with BT and XDA`s using TT5 for a long time.
After upgrading to new devices and new sw i have the following problems:
I can connect the BT321 as a BT Mouse and get a good signal.Using TomTom6 the navigation works with a delay of round about 100 meter. I`m looking for a resolution to connect the BT321 via the NMEA Interface.
regards
AK
____________________________
MDAc II
WM5
BT321
TT6
Britishbulldog said:
hi all,
My m8 has one of them on an XDA2i and the only way we could get it working with TT5 was to set it up as other NMEA GPS on com 6, that did the trick
hope that helps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have tried your advice and it works a treat, thanks to you and everybody else who contribute to this forum
can some one here please help me this is driving me mad for days now i have been looking thro the forums at some of the posts how to set up tomtom 5 and how to setup the gps bluetooth receiver i have followed all instructions how to but iam not getting any where tomtom is installed Ok the gps control panel is installed but i cant seem to get any blue tooth com ports to show up in tomtom apart from
qct data interface
RIL on com6
com7
serial cable on com1
Ir on com3
if i rember when i had it installed on my xda2i when i went to tomtom and
bluetooth other then com ports i could pick from tow bluetooth coms 5 & 6
this really is getting to me now i do believe it possible to do it there guys selling the info on ebay with pictures of it running on the XDA exec but i just cant seem to do it
please i would be so greatfull for any help i only got the phone last week i like it
TomTom & Bluetooth GPS
Hi there,
I am just guessing but give it a try, as i am using a cradle based GPS device bcs i wanna use the bluetooth headset as well during drive.
1. Try to first pair your Bluetooth GPS device with ur phone.
2. Once pairing is done, start TomTom
3. Goto ""ChangePreference->ShowGPS Status->Configure->Other Bluetooth GPS.
(Com1 is for the wired NMEA GPS device)
Your phone must within the connection of ur Bluetooth GPS device, now try BLUETOOTH SERIAL PORT Com5.
Try if its help
Sidd
Re: TomTom & Bluetooth GPS
sidd said:
Hi there,
I am just guessing but give it a try, as i am using a cradle based GPS device bcs i wanna use the bluetooth headset as well during drive.
1. Try to first pair your Bluetooth GPS device with ur phone.
2. Once pairing is done, start TomTom
3. Goto ""ChangePreference->ShowGPS Status->Configure->Other Bluetooth GPS.
(Com1 is for the wired NMEA GPS device)
Your phone must within the connection of ur Bluetooth GPS device, now try BLUETOOTH SERIAL PORT Com5.
Try if its help
Sidd
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Sidd,
I have tried that. The problem is that the phone won't allow me to connect to any other port than 8, 4 and 0 and in the Tom Tom menu there is no option of chosing those ports.
Thanks for advice anyway.
Rob
Hi Rob,
Make sure ur Beam is OFF
Start->Settings->Connection->Beam
MUST be UN-TICKED.
(By the way I am in London, where r u?)
One more idea :idea:
1. Pair ur GPS
2. Once pairing is done, switch OFF ur phone's bluetooth (bcs ur phone is engaging the com ports), do not switch OFF ur GPS.
3. Now soft reset ur phone, make sure the Bluetooth is still ON
4. Start TomTom, see if there are more ports now. Try 5 or 6
GoodLuck
Sidd
Hi Sidd,
Thanks for another piece of advice but unfortunately that did not help either My Beam is OFF and I've tried the way with soft reset but that did not work either. I am getting desperate here
My device is XDA Exec and I am using (or at least trying to use) a BT GPS receiver with it. After pairing devices everything seems to be all right except the fact that I am not able to assign any other ports than 0, 4 and 8 to be used with GPS receiver. As I mentioned earlier there is no option of choosing any of these ports in TomTom5 software with the only options as follows:
qct data interface
RIL on com6
com7
serial cable on com1
Ir on com3
Maybe you know any ComPort Manager software I could use to assign the Bluetooth connection to a specific port?
As far as my location is concerned I am in Hayes - that's Zone5 near Heathrow airport.
Cheers,
Rob
Which TomTom u using, is it the legal version or ****. Do u wanna meet, so we can try my version?
I am in Pinner, do u drive?
Sidd
Hi all,
I have exactaly the same message and problem.
Natan69
Please if you found a solution help me. i installed my tom tom today so I expect that you may solved your problem by now.
please help me you have been in this situation and you know what i am through.
Thanks
Hi all,
I had exactly the same problem than you guys...
But first of all I couldn't even install tomtom5.
The version 5.0 crashed in every attempt to install and version 5.21, simply crashed when choosing the map.
Well, I'll try to put every step I did to get it working.
First of all, had the BT GPS paired with K-JAM and set new outgoing port COM6 to it. (in my case I only had COM6 or COM7).
1 - With the full copy of 5.0 version on HDD, replaced setup.exe with the one from the 5.21 update (this allowed the setup for 5.0 to run, and is the one that has the gps.cab file);
2 - Updated with version 5.21;
3 - Copied the map to \Storage Card\
4 - In Windows created the file CurrentMap.dat using Notepad containing: & \Storage Card\XXXX-Map\ (where XXXX is the map name. the final \ is mandatory);
5 - Copied the voiceXX.cab to device and run it;
At this point I was having the same problem (both COM6 nor COM7 appears in tomtom)
6 - Downloaded the GPSInfo_WM5.zip attached here and installed it;
7 - Executed this program, configured it to COM6 (port I had configured BT GPS to work with) selected the correct baud rate (very important, it's on the user's manual of the BT GPS) and click Start GPS to check it's response to the program;
8 - Click Close GPS so that the COM port was not in use;
9 - Started tomtom, edit the settings and chose Other Bluetooth GPS.
Now the ports COM6 and COM7 was there!!!!
10 - Chose COM6 and in 10 seconds tomtom was trying to aquire satelites.
I hope this helps you all. I spent weeks trying to make tomtom work and I got it working yesterday.
BTW, excellent forum. If it wasn't this forum (and another one only in portuguese I was still mad with this thing.
Good luck in your adventures.
Cheers,
Nuno.
I installed the gpsinf but it did not solve anything
Thanx for the help
Pairing a GPS with XDA Exec to get TomTom working
After several hours trawling forums and trying lots of things here's what worked for me on an XDA Exec running WM5. In fact I was shocked when it worked! In return for this can someone please think up the next thing after Toothache! The WM5 bluetooth connection thing could also do with a re-write - as could the WM5/XDA Exec instructions/FAQs/help, etc... on BT:
If your aim is to get TomTom working AND you're using a non-TomTom BT GPS, try this (the TomTom GPS seems to install itself without much problem):
1. Pair the GPS with your device BEFORE installing TomTom, because the GPS port needs to be already setup on your device for TomTom to recognise when installed.
2. Then install TomTom
3. Launch the BT connection thing in WM5. Make sure the BT is discoverable (first tab). Select 'Security' tab and ensure 'Authentication (Passkey) required is checked.
4. Go to 'Devices' tab and select 'new partnership...' The pairing thing should find your GPS and will then ask for the passkey - select next WITHOUT entering anything even if there's a passkey. If you enter the passkey now you will not get step 5 which is a crucial milestone.
5. The device should now ask if you want to add the GPS to your list, select yes
6. The name of the GPS is shown. Ensure 'serial' port is checked and hit next
7. You will be asked for the passkey again - enter it this time
8. At this point the GPS may look like it's not paired. The lights may flash as if unpaired. You'll also get a question mark icon next to the GPS in your list. Not to worry.
9. Select 'com ports' tab and select 'new outgoing port'. You should see your GPS listed. Select it and hit next. From the list of ports select COM8. Make sure the 'Secure connection' is UNCHECKED - otherwise you'll be pairing everytime you start TomTom! Select Finish. You should see your GPS (COM8) listed in 'COM ports' tab.
10. Turn off 'device is discoverable' (first tab).
11. Now install TomTom. Having installed the GPS as above, TomTom will now know about COM8 i.e. where your GPS is to be found. If you hadn't done that first there would be no COM8 and no GPS connected to it as far as TomTom is concerned.
12. Turn on the GPS
13. Launch TomTom and go to 'preferences/ GPS Settings'. Select 'configure'. Select 'Other bluetooth GPS'
14. You should get a list of ports and with any luck you should see 'COM8' - select it and hit 'done'.
15. I think at this point the GPS page in TomTom came alive, or maybe I had to restart TomTom - can't remember. And it works thus far!
Toothache - what a palaver!
Hi,
I have tomtom 5 on my Vario and have a BT GPS receiver that came with the copilot software.
I can't get tomtom to recognize the BT receiver. BT search on the device finds the receiver and it works ok with the copilot software. When I try to connect it using the tomtom software, I can't find the right port (COM6) in the tomtom settings, the tomtom website says choose other BT GPS and then it should have 'Bluetooth Port COM6'. Well it's just not there!!!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
try turning off recieve beam that frees up a com port
Sorry, I should have put in the original post that I have already unticked beam receive.
Thanks anyway - any more ideas anyone?
BT/GPS Problems
Hi all,
I have a program that can sort out the com port problems between the bluetooth and gps software.
I have included the program as an attachment, just unzip it into your PC, make sure you reboot your PDA, sync your PDA to the PC and run setup.
Problems solved.
Cheers,
John
Does anybody know how to get the XDA EXEC to work with BT GPS
FGPXBT02 as I am really struggling to get this device to work. My phone can see the device in bluetooth but when I run TomTom 5 on the phone the program cannot see the GPS device in the "OTHER BLUETOOTH RECEIVERS" section.
Any ideas?
You probably already solved this, but if not. Make an outgoing port to the GPS in WM5 and select it in TT under the other GPS options. Let me know if you need more help.
scousegitt said:
Does anybody know how to get the XDA EXEC to work with BT GPS
FGPXBT02 as I am really struggling to get this device to work. My phone can see the device in bluetooth but when I run TomTom 5 on the phone the program cannot see the GPS device in the "OTHER BLUETOOTH RECEIVERS" section.
Any ideas?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And another thing, you will need TT5.21 at least, I believe
Mav
I guess. The TT5 CD's I had crashed instantly on Windows when I tried to install them. On the TT pages there is a workaround to get the map to a Win folder and then copy them over. Also the downloaded update installs nicely.
I'm kind of annoyed at TT, since I have the European maps and figured I'd only need an update for my region. Well the maps from TT5 mobile aren't compatible with TT6 so I'd lose all the European maps. And I think the complete update now gives you a 1GB map with all of Europe - I'd much rather just install the countries I need.