use O2 XDA Exec with BT sim ???? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading

Nuubie now very lost after 14 hours.
I have been trying to get my XDA Exec to work with a BT sim (UK). It does not appera that the unit is locked because it does allow me to select the following networks..
VF-UK
O2-UK
T-MOBILE-UK
23420 ?????
Orange
I have tried all the unlock proceedures I can find and various different ROM's to no avail.
When I set the phone to automatic it logs on to UMTS-UK.
Can anyone help me....or is it not possible.
I read that the XDA is not locked, so am I doing something wrong?
I have also tried this
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Simlock_by_Buzz_and_team
But am unsure of how to do 9 and 15......can any one help with this

The xda Exec is DEFINITELY not locked to any network. It could be either the phone is barred, or the SIM no longer works (BT SIM? I've never seen one of those since I came to the UK 6 years ago; surely BT Cellnet is now O2...)

Thanks Richardlai,
The BT sim works fine in other phones. With the BT sim in it automatically registers to a network called UMTS VF-UK that works fine but the coverage is pants.
What is this and who is it?
Could it be that there is a setting in the XDA somewhere?
Has anyone got an XDA working with a BT sim?
If the phone is barred, how can this be changed?
Can any other XDA Exec user tell me what networks are listed.
go to start>phone
click on menu>options>network (tab)>change network selection to manual. This brings up a list, my list is
@ VF-UK
@ O2-UK
@ T-Mobile UK
@23420
@ Orange
to stop any changes happening just click cancel.
Thanks

mrfirepro said:
Thanks Richardlai,
The BT sim works fine in other phones. With the BT sim in it automatically registers to a network called UMTS VF-UK that works fine but the coverage is pants.
What is this and who is it?
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That's weird... "UMTS VF-UK" is Vodafone's 3G network. How old is your SIM card? I suggest to contact BT (I'm assuming you're referring to British Telecom) about this problem, and they might be able to refer you to the right people from O2 (used to be BT Cellnet).
If you're phone is able to connect to a network, then it is not barred so don't worry (a barred phone cannot be used again in the same country as its function is to disallow the thief using the stolen phone; this process cannot be reversed, as far as I know).

BT mobile piggybacks on the Vodaphone network, so you are connected to the correct network. Perhaps the UMTS signal is too weak. Try disableing UMTS and see if everything is okay just using GSM.

Oh... I didn't know that BT has their own mobile phone service now...

richardlai said:
Oh... I didn't know that BT has their own mobile phone service now...
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I don't know anyone who uses it. But I remember the fuss when a year or so after selling off Cellnet/O2 it moved back into the mobile business. Presumibly as soon as it legally could (http://www.btmobile.bt.com). Like Virgin it's a virtual network.

Thanks, So it looks like I'm looking in the wrong area. The problem is when I ring BT they tell me that they don't support that phone.
When I set the phone to GSM only, it logs onto VF-UK the problem with this is the signal strength is very low, typically I can't get past 1 bar when I copmare that against a normal phone on VF that would have 5 bars. Could it be a fault with the phone or is the XDA a bit like this.
Regards

mrfirepro said:
Could it be a fault with the phone or is the XDA a bit like this.
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Why don't you give us the specifications of your phone, especially the radio stack verison and ROM version?

rom version 1.30.107 WWE
rom date 04/11/06
Radio version 1.09.00
Protocol Version 42.42.P8
Extrom version 1.30.162 WWE
I hope this is the right information. Does this tell you anything?

Well it does seem to be the latest O2 ROM...
I have heard of some rare cases where the Universal's radio reception is very low, and apparently it was to do with a loose connection of the antenna to the circuit board. You'll have to do a search on it I'm afraid.

I have the O2 XDA Exec and I run the BT SIM in it with no problems.
My Rom version is 1.30.107 WWE
My Radio version is 1.09.00
Ext Rom version 1.30.162 WWE
BT Sims use the Vodafone network.
Keep well
Peter

Related

No Service

I had no problems with my local gsm carrier which operats on 1800Mhz band until a new carrier arrived in the market operating on 850/1900 (not yet launched but testing). Now very often I only see the 850/1900 carrier, to which I obviously cannot connect, and I cannot see my carrier for long periods in certain locations. My phone then shows, "No service".
At these "no service' times everyone around my is able to see my carrier on their handsets. I have also experienced a version of this in roaming also but it's real problem at home. Seems like the radio searches for 850 or 1900 first and if it finds any a network it stops searching.
Friends with Treo 850s had the same problem but there were able to choose a preferred band. I also recently heard of other users of Windows 2003 devices in my area having the same problems on non-imate handsets.
I have read about newer radio versions like 1.13 and 1.15 but it is not clear to me if there address this problem at all. I also saw a band switching tool but that was for the Wallaby ROM. Has anyone experienced this problem and if so what can I do?
My software stack on my phone is the latest imate PDA2K releases:
ROM version: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio version: 1.12.00
ExtROM version: 1.40.176 WWE
Ronald
What happens when you do a network search? You might want to try setting your network selection to manual as well since it seems that the new GSM 850/1900 (according to GSMWorld.com it is Digicel) network is causing some kind of reception issues for you.
You are correct about where the interference is coming from. I have tried using manual but my phone begins searching, gives me the option of selecting Digicel (850/1900) but my carrier (1800) is not shown.
Triband81 said:
What happens when you do a network search? You might want to try setting your network selection to manual as well since it seems that the new GSM 850/1900 (according to GSMWorld.com it is Digicel) network is causing some kind of reception issues for you.
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GSM Frequeny

I have a Orange SIM card which I got in Israel, I am now in Canada and that SIM works fine on my friends Nokia 6600, but when I try to use it with my XDA IIs I can't find any networks or anything. I am guessing its the GSM frequecy although the phone supports all of them. Does anyone have any idea what I need to do to get the SIM to work here? Does anyone know how to manually select a GSM frequency?
XDA IIs
ROM Version: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio Version: 1.15.00
Protocol Version: 1337.45
Hello psytech,
I believe you're roaming. Sometimes, you really cannot just plug your sim card then voila its working. If you are roaming, most of the time you really have to manually select the network.
anyway, i'm currently using windows mobile 2005, and no longer using windows mobile 2003 SE. i hope i could still help you or atleast you can see the pattern on how to do it.
here what you do:
1. click on the signal strength icon (the icon located on the upper right most portion of your screen just beside the speaker icon)
2. a dialogue box will appear with a clickable 'settings' button (located on lower left part of the dialogue box.), click the 'settings'
3. you will then see 3 tabs on the bottom part of the screen, 'phone', 'services', 'network'. click on 'network'.
4. you should find something like 'find network' button there, then just but before you click on it, choose 'manual' for network selection.
the rest is self explanatory, i hope i was able to help you. cheers!
You say your orange sim works fine on your friends nokia but does not work in your IIs.
Is it possible that your IIS device is sim locked as in will only work on the O2 network in the country you got it from.
If so unlock it via wiki (link in sig)
not it
I forgot to mention that the SIM worked fine in Isreal, my original SIM is orange (I do have an account with) I just can't get support cause I didn't buy the phone from them (capitalists).
About the network search. Thats what I've been doing for the last couple of days but I can not find ANY networks at all. which is what leads me to believe that its a GSM frequency problem.
What happens if you put your friends sim in your phone
GSM in Canada is generally 1900 http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_ca.shtml
doesn't work either
My friend's SIM doesn't work on my phone either. If canada is 1900, how can I make sure that my phone is currently using 1900. (I know it supports it, but how do I actually see that its actually scanning with it?)
What happens if you go to Settings->Phone->Network and then change Network Selection to Manual.
You should then get a list of networks. This will list all networks even if you cannot connect to them.
[edit] This has already be suggested earlier in the thread
If you do get some networks then the only reason that I can think of that you are not connecting is that under Prefered Networks you have a network selected that your carrier does not have a roaming agreement with.
Check your provider's website to see who they have agreements with.
no networks
My provider (Orange) has agreements with Rodgers, but my problem is that I am not listing ANY networks, I tried manual and even added the Rodgers network to my favorite networks, but when I try to search for networks I can't find any, I just get a blank window. This is very odd to me and I've never heard of anyone with that problem.
Like I've mentioned before, I updated my windows to TuMa 1.4 and my radio to 1.1.15. If there's anything else I need to do or anything I may not have done when I updated my network please tell me.
btw when I installed that TuMa windows I change my ID thingy to Tmobile.
Problem solved
Attenttion everyone:
It has come to my attention that there is a problem in the Band Selection CAB when it comes to certian cellular providers.
The problem so far appears on a Cellular One network that only supports 850Mhz. When the North American Option is choosen in the Band tab, the phone can not find a network to register on. I'm not quite sure why this happens yet, but there is a solution to fix.
http://relaysgoldens.com/sx66/ext_roms/BandSelect-fix.CAB
By installing this CAB, it provides a fourth option on the band tab, "Reset Value to Zero".
By selecting this option, the phone will be reset to it's default state, and will work normally.
I've trapped this as a bug in the 1.40.124 extrom and will be working to figure this out.
Note: the band selection setting is persistant, and will not be reset even if you downgrade the ROMs on the phone. If you are experiencing this problem, the ONLY way to reset the value is to use the CAB above.
-Chris
P.S. I've also updated the 1.40.124 RAR file on the website to include the updated bandselect CAB.
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I found that at http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53121 and it worked.

help to unlock XDA Exec

Following Buzz's installation instuctions I am stuck with these two items.
9. Activate Radio even without Sim in it saying something about no Sim)
15. Flash your original Radio ROM. Do not upgrade the bootloader until you restored an original radio rom.
I think I am just about there with number 15 (with the resource on this site) but can not find anything on #9.
I know a lot of people say that it is already unlocked, but it seems unlocked to a few networks.
Regards
hi, XDA Execs should be unlocked
Does it ask you to enter the unlock code if u enter another sim?
If it doesn't then it's unlocked as far as i know.
What makes you believe that it's locked to a few netwroks, maybe it's because you're trying to find a non-existent umts signal...
Turning the radio on means turning flight mode off (and for the purposes of unlocking you do that without a sim)
Hope that helps.
I take it the UMTS is another name for 3G. My BT account is a normal non 3G account. Is it a case that I need to alter some of the settings, the networks it lists are...
@VF-UK
@ O2-UK
@ Orange
Is ther anything I should try....
umm, what happens if you insert a non-o2 sim into your phone?
If it's continually searching for a signal, it might be trying to search for a dodgy 3G/UMTS signal
in which case try going to phone settings, then in the band tab , select GSM instead of auto or wcdma
In the worse case scenario, if/when you flashed the radio 0.00.00, you might have had some problem with your USB (See the unlocking thread)
Thanks for all your help.
I think I have now got to the bottom of this. The fact is that BT use the VF network. The phone logs onto this, so I guess this is normal. However the signal strength never gets above 2 bars, is this normal?
mrfirepro said:
Thanks for all your help.
I think I have now got to the bottom of this. The fact is that BT use the VF network. The phone logs onto this, so I guess this is normal. However the signal strength never gets above 2 bars, is this normal?
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As far as i knew BT always used o2????
however....you got to upgrade you radio version after unlock is having probs.....
BR
agent003 said:
As far as i knew BT always used o2????
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Not anymore, dude. BT sold BT Cellnet (now O2 plc) a little while ago, but now they have started their own mobile service again (called BT Mobile) BUT piggybacking Vodafone's network.

Calls possible with HSDPA Data Transfer?

Hi all
I experienced some problems since I upgraded to WM 6 (official Tytn Europe Version)
If there is a active Datatransfer in HSDPA Mode, i cannot make or receive a phone call. I already tried several Radio Versions (1.43/1.48/1.50), but no success. When I disable HSDPA, it works fine.
Does anybody has same issues with HSDPA?
Thanks
Marc
Vodafone issue
Hi - are you using a vodafone network? I know that there are issues on the network that are preventing some operators from supporting voice and data at teh same time over HSDPA....
The operators I know about are planning network upgrades or patches to solve the issues (which are not just limited to Windows Mobile devices apparently)
I can make calls -> versions below I don't think this is just a phone issue though. I think some operators can't do it.
I have the same problem as you have.
It is because of the infrastructure of my provider KPN that I have this problem. When I disable HSDPA then all works fine. So no I only use HSDPA when I want to browse on the Internet.
****ty but now I know why.........
Hi all
Thanks for the confirmation.
I also disabled HSDPA for now.
Now I will the push the guys in the network department to fix this issue......
Just got the answer from the tech guys. Operators with Ericsson UMTS/HSDPA Network Equipment are affected by this. The Operator has to rollout a software update to fix this issue.
Cheers
Marc
I am on AT&T and have never been able to do data and voice at hte same time.
I'm on At-T in Nyc and my HSDPA works just fine calls while on data and vice versa
I'm in South Florida and I'm constantly using Internet Sharing in HDSPA mode while talking on my Jawbone... (takes "jawbone of an ass" to a whole new level, ehehehe!)
Dr Puttingham said:
I'm in South Florida and I'm constantly using Internet Sharing in HDSPA mode while talking on my Jawbone... (takes "jawbone of an ass" to a whole new level, ehehehe!)
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OK, now THAT is the funniest thing I've read here! Thanks for the laugh!
I saw the jawbone at the ATT/Cingy store and wondered if I should splurge on it since I already have an H500 and an H700 from Motorola. My problem is I ride bike a lot and the wind noise makes it impossible to have a conversation with an H500. It is possible but a little difficult to talk while riding using the H700. I was wondering if you had any experience with the Jawbone under similar conditions?
Regards,
George
OOPs - That was meant to be PM, sorry folks!
The Hermes is able to do both. Phone calls and data (HSDPA\GPRS\EDGE) at the same time. Your data speed does take a hit due to bandwith.
However if you cannot is because is 99.999% the network NOT the phone. I had a Hermes long before the network here in Canada supported HSDPA. So I could only do one at the time. At the beginning of this year they finally updated it and I have been doing both at the same time with wild abandon no problem.
Check with your provider.
@gmgonzal - the Jawbone will probably be the best you can find for your enviroment. I only use it in my Toyota when driving. People can't tell that I'm on a cell phone. I had a NxZen which I liked for a while but this is better, IMO.
@agovinoveritas - indded, that's the biggest reason I upgraded to the 8525... no more missed calls when I'm using the internet (or receiving an email at the same time..)
It's the network. All operators that use Ericsson 3G equipment suffer from a bug in the Ericsson kit that prevents simultaneous data/voice. All Nokia equipment works fine. T-Mobile in the NL use Nokia and have no issues. KPN and Vodafone NL use Ericsson and have this issue. KPN are currently upgrading their Ericsson equipment to correct this issue (ETA end 2007). I do not know about Vodafone NL. It is safe to assume that in other countries these providers use the same kit so you should be fine with TMO, regardless of where you are.
Does this issue include that my telephoneconversation can be disconnected?
I had this problem with the WWE WM5 HTC rom using the Vodafone NL network. Now I have uograded to the Dopod WM6 ANZ version it's all fine...

orbit can't find mobile networks

Hi, I have a problem with my O2 Xda Orbit not connecting to any mobile network.
I have tried O2, vodafone and orange sims, but all the same, the searching for network
icon nerver connects. The device details are:-
Rom version 3.4.206.2 WWE
Rom date 4/18/7
Radio version 03.06.90
Protocol version 4.1.13.50
Ext Rom version 3.4.206.103
I'm quite happy with everything else on the device, gps works, Wi-Fi works
TomTom works, it's just that I can't make or receive phone call or texts.
In the O2 connection settings my only option is:-
O2 UK Post Pay_GPRS
I have tried the auto configuration, but still no luck.
Do I need to upgrade just the radio?
Any help greatly appreciated.
(if this has already been dealt with, could someone point me in right direction?)
Thank You
After further research it seems I am the victim of an insurance scam, I bought this phone off ebay in good faith, but it seems it has been blocked by uk networks, most likely because it was reported as lost or stolen and claimed on insurance.

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