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Stereo A2DP bluetooth - who's using ? what works ?

Please excuse Noob q ... but pervious discussions on this are not conclusive ...
The more I read about BT on Orbit / Artemis / P5500 and other HTC devices the more I find its a complete Minefield !!
Who's got it working OK ?
What headsets did you use ?
Is the quality good (ie as good as wired headset) ?
Have you had to do any registry changes (eg bit rate tweaks) ?
FWIW ive got some Jabra BT320's which appear to be a great spec (tiny, interchangeable 3.5mm earphone) but stereo quality is awful - I suspect its the Orbit and that HTC uses a weird A2DP profile (cf other mobile phone makers) so only a few headsets will work with it OK.
Of course o2 (HTC) say its a Jabra Issue and vice versa
Here are links to interesting discussions / reviews on this and the Artemis/orbit...
Stereo headset review (but no Jabras)
Jabra BT320s
General Discussion about Stereo Bluetooth on PDA's and Reg fixes

I bought the htc s100 stereo bt headset. I had to change some registry settings to have stereo suond and a better sampling.
Definitely the sound quality is horrible. The worst thing that I ever heard in my life. Stay away from it!

I have a Jabra BT320 and sound quality ain't that bad.
Max bitPool settings = 60 will get ya awesome quality.. but it's skipping 70% of the time.
I had to lower bitPool to 45 to have a good balance between quality and performance.
Of course, I have to use useJointStereo=0, if not quality will be mono. <- I wonder why the device comes default like this!!!
STILL.. once in a while, it will skip, depending on my movement or what I do on the PDA. I got pissed one day.. and decided to go back to wires.... which has:
1) flawless quality
2) no skipping or any defects
3) can listen to radio as well
I modified my earpiece to accept the 3.5mm connector, so I'm using my Sony in-ear phones

Stereo Bluetooth works with 3 small reg hacks
Thanks for replies .... I did the Reg hacks...
A) From mono to stereo:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings/[UseJointStereo = 0]
HTC ship their devices defaulted to mono output which is a bit odd considering they tout them as being A2DP compatible.
B) Balance between quality and performance:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings/[BitPool = 42]
C) HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings/[MaxSupportedBitPool= 42]
Where Lowest quality setting is 30 & highest is 60. You have to experiment to see the best that suits you in terms of sound quality & performance (i.e. dropouts). 42 is the value I settled on...... from another post (thanks Zen123) but I'll experiment later.
The quality is slighty better using TCPMP media player than WMP10, (which seems to give a slight speed variation (like old LP's) but the latter allows the controls to work from the BT device.
Turns out the JabraBT320s are pretty good - its subjective but the earbugs (on 3.5mm jack) are perfect for my music (trance).

Motorola HT820 Bluetooth Stereo Works Superb with Orbit
No problems here using my Motorola HT820 Bluetooth with the Orbit... seems stereo enough to me!
Overall the bluetooth is rock solid and all the buttons on the headphones work great with Windows Media Player. The output of Windows Media Player isn't the best, but if it's control you need and compatibilty with the headphone buttons - its ok.
I really wish there were some Massive sounding bluetooth headphones on the market - nice and bassy, etc... anyone know of any (volume UP!) headphones?
The HT820s are pretty fine for now.
Morkus

Sony Ericsson Headset HBH-DS970
I have my Orbit setup with the SE HBH-DS970 Bluetooth headset - works fantastic. I also use it to make hands free calls when driving.

Orbit over BT with Parrot Boombox
Hello,
i read many about Orbit, A2DP, Quality and so on. The quality seems to be a very subjective thematic. Some say it works fine while other say it sounds horrible.
Have you seen the Parrot Boombox: http://www.parrot.biz/de/produkte/parrotboombox
Do you think the quality reaches a level good enough to fuel the boombox?
After all i read it shouldn't
Greez

UPO said:
I have my Orbit setup with the SE HBH-DS970 Bluetooth headset - works fantastic.
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Do you see track information on the headset screen? I don't, which is a bit of a disappointment...

What headset?

What headset are you all using with your HC Touch?
Let us know what audio quality is like for handsfree phone function and listening to music/MP3s. Please also share your experiences in using the included HTC headset (which I think is appalling)

darthbane2k said:
What headset are you all using with your HC Touch?
Let us know what audio quality is like for handsfree phone function and listening to music/MP3s. Please also share your experiences in using the included HTC headset (which I think is appalling)
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Had it two days - Sony DR-BT10CX Bluetooth stereo/handsfree - great for running and excellent sound quality for both calls and music.
Cheap too!
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/Sony/DR-BT10CX/Bluetooth/Stereo/Headphones

That looks great.
Unfortunately I have already a great headset... with 3.5mm connector.
Is there any MiniUSB-to-3.5mm-adapter?
Thanks

Here
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=149937

Yes, but this is without microphone. Just for listening music.

fenderbender said:
Yes, but this is without microphone. Just for listening music.
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Doesnt have a button but it has a mic
http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=149936

Thanks, but the description says:
Description
Use this adaptor to convert the HTC Touch extUSB socket to support any 3.5mm stereo headphones. The adaptor also has a hangup/answer button for normal voice calls through a stereo headset.
So I think it has a button
Thats great

Jawbone headset is amazing
I have ordered one of these after hearing from many people just how good these are. I got mine from Expansys.co.uk
http://www.jawbone.com/meet.html?utm_source=site&utm_medium=promo_demo
All the best,
Sam.

PianoSam said:
I have ordered one of these after hearing from many people just how good these are. I got mine from Expansys.co.uk
http://www.jawbone.com/meet.html?utm_source=site&utm_medium=promo_demo
All the best,
Sam.
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Man, those things look/sound badass...I might have to pick one of those up - I don't really have a quiet car, and I LOVE driving with the windows down! Hefty price tag on eBay though - pay to play though, right?

If you are looking at the DR-BT10CX, I suggest you get the DR-BT20NX instead because it got a remote for music - same earbuds and receiver essentially.

darthbane2k said:
What headset are you all using with your HC Touch?
Let us know what audio quality is like for handsfree phone function and listening to music/MP3s. Please also share your experiences in using the included HTC headset (which I think is appalling)
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The HTC headset works fine for calling and music. For use in the car I have a jabra BT5020 and quality is good, auto-pair ofcourse.

I'm thinking of DIY-ing the usb to 3.5mm audio jack, does anyone have any idea how the usb connectors corresponed to the audio outputs? thanks!

Been shopping around now, since I saw that Jawbone...but I'm wondering...
Is there a Stereo Bluetooth headset with noise-canceling technology out there that anyone knows of???
I've been searching, but to no avail.

Motorola S9 for Stereo and Plantronics 665 for phone
If I am not listening to music I use the Plantronics 665. If I want to listen to music and take calls I use the Motorola S9 stereo BT headphones. The S9 is amazing for quality and fit. Don't let the strange (to some people) design fool you. These are high quality headphones. I have compared these to the Motorola 805s (DJ style) and HT820 (behind the head) and expected the S9 not to sound as good - not true. All 3 Motorola headsets sound great, but for the size the S9 sounds overall just as good if not better. I didn't like the sound of the Jabra BT headphones and the Plantronics over the head (590A) headset sounded good, but not as good as the S9.
By the way I tested a Jawbone and was not impressed at all. Didn't like the fit, sound was only OK and if you need the noise cancellation you have to press a button on the unit for 3 seconds to turn it on - each time. Certainly this is good technology, but for me the Plantronics 665 fits better and over all sounds much better.

I am using a Jabra BT620s for music and calls. Sound quality is very good. Nice fit, good battery performance and fits nicely on my head It has blue leds on both sides that blink when in use, its a bit weird at first but once you get past the oooohs and aaaahs from everyone its great
Has controls aswell (next, previous, volume up/down, accept call/hang up, play/pause) The accept/hangup key has the extra function when not in a call, it activates the voice command program so you can talk commands to your phone

has anyone tried SE HBH-DS970 with this ? comments ?
thx

sorry this is a double post

Anyone tested the HTC Touch E100 or W100 Wired Remote Control?
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=147565
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=150194
-Does it work on the Touch?
-Does it work with HTC Audio Manager?
-Does the FM Radio works?
What's the difference between E100 & W100 model?
Regards,
tigabert

I have a Nokia CK-7W buildin carkit in my car (company carkit) which also had bluetooth. Unfortunatly this bluetooth connection gives alot of problems when calling.
I can hear people fine but they hear constant break-ups in the connection. I tried it with a Sony bluetooth headset and everything worked fine.
So dont use the touch combined with a Nokia CK-7W

I'm using the Sony BT20NX and theyre absolutely the best. High quality stereo audio with AVRCP (?) remote profile which works with Windows Media Player, Audio Manager, and TCPMP. The headset is comfortable to wear, blocks outside sound so you can enjoy music at a low volume. The sound is clear and the connection is solid. The buttons are easy to use and I use it for MS Voice Command too, which is awesome. Perfect headset, if you can still find them (I heard theyre discontinued).

Car kt/stereo for music and calls - How?

Does anyone know of a solution where I can plug my phone in, play music on the car stereo and then make/take calls?
Would be nice if it was all integrated - i.e. that the stereo would pause or so when I'm on the phone, and the phone goes through the stereo speakers etc.
Need to get a new stereo anyway, so need the whole lot!
Cheers,
Ferg.

This is not a new stereo but works perfect for me. look up the Motorola t505. It is bluetooth handsfree and transmits wirelessly to your car stereo with built in fm transmitter. very strong fm transmitter. Music streamed to car stereo will paus when you make or get a call and the call even comes through the car stereo. Battery is very good too. Google it

That looks quite a decent solution, thanks hotrod.
I'm a little suspicious of BT though generally, not least because of my succession of HTC devices. I wonder if there's anything that just plugs in using old fashioned wires.

Well I am using the t505 with my HTC Touch Elf and it is the best thing that I have used in my car for transmitting music, since my factory stereo doesn't have aux in jack. I have tried using a regular fm transmitter directly from the phone but you get way too much distortion and feedback and radio interferance that way. I aslo do not have a tape deck in my car so that option wasn't available. For me I had to decide - Get a new car stereo with Aux Jack in or Built in Bluetooth, get the Parrot Bluetooth ( has to be professionally installed) or the T505. The cheapest was the T505 for me and it works better for me than I had ever hoped.

Bluetooth headset with a2dp and no earbud

The Motorola H720 and H730 are bluetooth headsets with no earbuds and the speaker is flat against the side. However, they do not have a2dp for music. Is there anything else similar with a2dp?

Start searching for something with two earphones (stereo). I don't know of any mono headset with A2DP.
If you want recommendations, you should give more details about what you want from it and how much you're willing to spend.
Cheers!

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I haven't seen anything like this either. Those business bluetooth headsets intended for phone conversation rather then multimedia streaming, thus everything I have seen so far in that type of bt headsets doesn't support A2DP. If anybody would have it, it would be Plantronics, but they don't offer it. To have full multimedia support you need stereo bluetooth headsets like LG HBS730 or Plantronics BackBeat GO 2 or BlueJays BlueBuds X. Look into my signature link for reviews of a lot of these headphones.

Car with limited Bluetooth.

In my Nissan Sentra 2012 it has Bluetooth, but for calls only. When I play music it plays from my phone instead of car, and in Bluetooth setting the car has call capabilities only. I have a rooted LG g2, and will be willing to try anything. Is there any tricks to make it think its a call but plays music instead.

3r4s3r said:
In my Nissan Sentra 2012 it has Bluetooth, but for calls only. When I play music it plays from my phone instead of car, and in Bluetooth setting the car has call capabilities only. I have a rooted LG g2, and will be willing to try anything. Is there any tricks to make it think its a call but plays music instead.
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I've never heard of anything like that?
There are $25 bluetooth devices out there which plug into your stereo's 3.5mm aux input if it has one. They work very well for calls and music.

3r4s3r said:
In my Nissan Sentra 2012 it has Bluetooth, but for calls only. When I play music it plays from my phone instead of car, and in Bluetooth setting the car has call capabilities only. I have a rooted LG g2, and will be willing to try anything. Is there any tricks to make it think its a call but plays music instead.
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are you sure ? all car radios ive seen have bluetooth total audio playback. Make sure its setup on your phone correctly too.. need to check that nissan sentra lol

I found out its something about not supporting one of the Bluetooth modes, if I payed for extra features it probably would have worked but I found a app called btmono, it's on the play store and it makes the car think I'm in a call and plays music like that, but the sound quality is horrible but that because of the trick they used to allow music through fake call. On the car it says I'm in a call with my own phone number

no a2dp that is ... i have an (older) alpine aftermarket unit, BT for calls is just great, but there ist absolutely no streaming going on. i use the front-aux for that matter.

Google has made great advances in supporting non-A2DP cars. My 2010 Chevy Malibu has Bluetooth but not A2DP. I can do Google Now and other voice commands through the phone system.
You do have to change some settings. Specifically in Google Now Settings you have to enable Bluetooth headset support. Once you do that, you can then call up Google Now and it will route audio.
There are a couple of apps out there that will pump stereo audio through the phone profile. But I don't recommend them. You're vastly better off with a 3.5mm to A2DP adapter.

If you want Bluetooth in your car, but you don’t want to spend the money and/or time to install a new head unit, you have three options, depending on your car’s setup and whether your primary interest is in making phone calls or listening to music. If you’re fortunate enough to have an aux-in port (an audio-input jack that fits a plug like the one on your headphones), a Bluetooth kit with an aux-in cable is the easy choice—it’s the most reliable alternative and the one that will produce the best overall sound and call quality. If you don’t have an aux-in port, the best option depends on your priorities. If you value call quality over sound, a clip-on speakerphone is the way to go; if you care more about music and podcast sound quality than about clear calls, choose an FM transmitter. We spent 10 hours conducting research and tests for this update, comparing seven new auxiliary-input kits alongside our original picks, to find the best, so you can choose what’s right for your car. (We didn’t test any new or noteworthy speakerphones or FM transmitters because, well, there were none.)

Well, at least I won't be the first one to necro-post on this...
It's more common than you think guys, especially with the older cars, *designed* when BT was available, but smartphones were new. Considering how lengthy the car design process is, I'm not surprised 2012 models are still affected.
On top of solutions posted above (well, if you care about sound quality, there's just one solution basically and TheWirecutter folks have done a lot of research and ruled Himbox HB01/Himbox HB01 Plus the king of them all), you might be in luck if there's an aftermarket unit available for your model which will plug into the back of your entertainment system and have both BT Phone and BT Multimedia profiles. You might need some tools and partial disassembly will be required to install.
There was one of these available for my 2008 Audi and while it was extremely pricey (about US $200) it's definitely cheaper than buying a new car.

i had 2010 VW and a 2011 Caddy that both had Bluetooth for the phone but not music

What is the best solution for this with my Nissan Altima 2011 it only has the limited Bluetooth.