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Hi Admins,
though i think that the ftp with its well-known user/pass is a very comfortable way to make files public, it seems as if some dorks are using this freedom to delete/change/corrupt files again and again.
Can we make ftp read-only so that you can only upload via web-interface? Im afraid thats the only way to get rid of these nagging fellows...
greetings,
quappo
I couldn't agree more! There is a chance to destroy our devices by corrupted ROMs and then blame the user that uploaded the file in order to help the community while he is not responsible for something like that!
Well said quappo!
I totally agree!
Yes, non-public FTP we should have.
I agree too!
I agree. Non-Public ftp!
Agree
Agree
Agree.... Make the FTP read only.... and a upload folder....
Cheers
Agree
Agre, but how to control the access?
Agree, read-only and upload folder/s
this is surely the way forward so that
1) the uploader doesnt get blamed for currupt files
2) this would help protect our devices for currupt roms images!
me too.
buzz
non-public FTP
OK, I'll make this happen soon.
agree too. hopefully it will make the bandwidth usage of this site less as its been VERY slow and down quite a bit recently.
Blueangel FTP Trashing now Nr. 2
Well the blueaangle site has had its SECOND trashing since march 16
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=100072#100072
We just cleaned up the mess, reposted what we could find and corrected the wiki links and bang, back to the start again.
I agree with this.
I am willing to offer some support to the developers on this, as they are obviously busy guys.
I would be happy to "moderate" the FTP as such.. so I could regularly check the upload folder (which everyone could have write access to)
Then move the files into thier relevant areas (Himilaya, BlueAngel, Tools etc.. Which could be Read Only access)
This way we wouldn't have people trashing the FTP.
Cheers
Site is non public
Hi all
We now have FTP admins for the site.
Please note that we are normal users that have a ftp account that has more rights than the xda user who will be able to post in a upload area and download but NOT Delete.
Now the BA section is covered with vastloper, HappyGoat and MDAIIIUser.
The other forums are not covered, and as I don't read them I need to know who would be a good choice, wants to do the job for free.
Please PM me.
great idea..... i vote yay to this motion
Yeah, the FTP should be locked except for an upload folder, and users should not be able to delete from that folder, that deleting and reorganising should be leave for the mods. I was fortunate to download the files that I needed for a ROM update (the anansky 27Mb Magician ROM update) before the onslaught began. Give other users the chance many of us have had.
Funny HA, HA
The FTP SIte has been trashed.
Both Kitchens are gone
The Extended rom folders is gone
And a load of other folders to.
Well that was 2 months of hard work up the swany
Funny HA, HA NOT!
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Who would do something like that...this is rediculous...!
I think it is time the ftp gets locked....but then again, I am not in charge.
Another idea I had was to CHMOD directories...posted that in another post. Best way really is to not allow anyone access to ftp, and post the links to the files in a thead here on the forum.
I am really disappointed...I do have several ROMs downloaded, so let me know if I can help ya, MDAIIIuser.
Well I have pm peter in the hope that there is a backup.
Well that is what I did, posted every file in wiki, applicatins, ext roms, kitchen files, the lot, All gone.
Surely it is backed up and just needs restoring. Some may be missing but most would be there
I will help you rebuild it...if you want.
This is not normal...crap...I just had a look, and indeed...a ****load of stuff is gone.
Have Peter check the FTP logs...we might be able to trace this back by IP to the guilty party.
Well can you PM him with that Idea, dont think he will wont to read a 2nd Pm from me.
I am uploading what i can into a folder. it will need sorting out not a huge amount of stuff but all i can help with. I think somebody did a move rather than a copy in windows. can it not be set to read and write only and not change
I have downloaded the ext. Roms of all german Providers. If theres no backup, tell me, and I will upload them.
I have sent out to PM to the admins, lets wait untill we get somefeed back before we start uploding to much.
Somebody will have to create the Dirs so that the wiki links work again and I am realy not up to it any more, its been to much work that I have just seen go down the tube, to much work that I have done alone.
I leave this up to the admins and the GREAT HELPFUL XDA-Forum users.
kitchen 1-22
I can restore 1-22 for you if you like.
Have most files here.
This is not funny.
The folders should be read only.
What i had from kitchen 1-22 is back now
kpn files are missing also.
I have put as much to the site as I have......reckon it maybe safer to make read only and have a moderator(s) who can upload????
I added bleuttoh cabs, and Varous cab upgrades and progs...
R
hi havealmost all the things in bluenagel folder.. if anyone wants i can up it.. though i did it over sometime and dont exactly have the index
who the heck wod do such a terrible thing????
Some A***LE who is probably reading all this while he/she plays with themselves! Sorry....had to say it!!! :x :evil:
I have the Siemens SX66 stuff from the ERK if you need it.Just let me know,and I will upload it later tonite.
Later......... 8)
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hi havealmost all the things in bluenagel folder.. if anyone wants i can up it.. though i did it over sometime and dont exactly have the index
who the heck wod do such a terrible thing????
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I had some ROM can be unload let me know which good time to do
Can we set up some of system which file allow new user to download and some of file allow more poster to download file,I saw some of web site in Taiwan or China had this kinds system,if post one get one piont ,upload get 5 piont or 10 piont , set up some of file only allow some piont can be download that maybe will take care this problem or just use PM to ask to link download.
hi
totally disagree with with mwang..
i hate that system and think its not suitable for this great sites users..
what we all can be is a bit more responsible as far as the ftp is concerned..with making the files read only so that no one but moderators can change the file structure.. or something.. maybe a moderated seperate upload download areas can help further
just my 2 cents
I totally agree with zohaer21 about the files.They should be a read only type of file. I hate to see these kind of things happen, but there are just some people who get off on screwing things up.
Later..... 8)
zohaer21 said:
hi
totally disagree with with mwang..
i hate that system and think its not suitable for this great sites users..
what we all can be is a bit more responsible as far as the ftp is concerned..with making the files read only so that no one but moderators can change the file structure.. or something.. maybe a moderated seperate upload download areas can help further
just my 2 cents
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Hi
Sorry to hear about the FTP site. I use mirrordir on my sites to push changes to a closed FTP box daily in the small hours off a cron job. Its pretty configurable and only sends changed files etc. I do it to avoid saturating my ADSL link - upload jpgs into ISP webspace daily, and have site link to them instead of local copies.
For backup/anti-tosser purposes, you prob dont need this - why dont you just write a simple script to copy the ftp site outside the ftp/http root once a day? Least then you can just copy it back in afterwards. All depends on available space, I know.
Nigel
Writing a new script for this is not needed. There are tons of scripts/proggies out there that can do this, no reinventing the wheel...
But I think the idea is excellent...keep originals on ftp, and update whenever needed to http location/folders.
So, We mirror this site to one of our own privat sites?
Sure it works but we all move on, get new toys and show no intrest. Who is going to do the admin on that.
Well my status is that I have two PM to two Admins that reamin in my outbox.
I am posting to a forum that is moderated but no admin has seen this thread.
I am truely gratful to the upload of the 1.22 kitchen, *vastloper*, thanks
Wiki needs to following folders
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Extended_Roms
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Extended_ROM_Kitchen_1_3X
Sure we need a few of the others but those were linked in wiki.
The problem is that if we reupload all this stuff who is going to clean it up?
The wiki team has been writing in wiki for over 2 months and I (MDAIIUser) have only ever seen 2 other contributions by none team members to that site in all that time. (bar the correcection of my bad spelling which still can be seen all over the place).
Ever wondered why we have so many threads on BT, and no links in wiki for that?
Sure this is a great site if you are looking for something but it is only as good as the amount of work that goes into it by us all. The tools are there, the info is also in the forum, but it cant be upto a team of 3 to post all of it, clean up the ftp site and act as admins with NO rights to insure that the work that has been done does not get trashed by some %&/ (*hdbueller* Great comment, got your device to work again?).
Sorry, my thoughts,
I think this question is for Peter Poelman or anyone who knows how to get in contact with him or anyone who can modify the ftp site a bit.
Since pm is not giving any responce i post question here and i also edit the startpage from wiki to (perhaps) get some attention.
It is about time to start protecting the ftp part against deleting files.
Many people have spend a lot of time to build to what it is now.
However in the short time that i am here i have seen files and directory's disappear 2 times now. This could be an accident by moving files but it could also be someone who is having a lot of fun now. So some people including me find it time to change the ftp a bit. We think it is time to get some members with the user rights that people now have when they log in with the name xda and are willing to take care of the ftp. Then the rest of us can upload files to the upload directory only. This way we can be a bit more relaxed and don't need to be afraid that the ftp is empty again tomorrow.
Extra question¿ How come forum is sooooo terrible slow and ftp is soooo extremely faaaaast. I would expect them to be same speed.
hey vastloper,
you arent the only one with these feelings check out my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19398
and like you ive tried pm (and handily he didnt give up his email address)
theres plenty of people that want to help but thats no damn good if the guys in charge are no longer available...
I noticed after posting this message.
I got some answers.
The webserver is going to be taken care of.
So it should be getting faster in the near future.
The ftp is going to change too and he told me there where some backups so he was going to take a look to see what he had as back up.
I looked at ftp and many things seems to have come back now.
Perhaps too many now.
there can never be too much! lol
but its good to see someone got through and its been sorted
Virus
I found a virus on the ftp site while looking for rom editing tools.
I don't remember exactly which folder/directory I downloaded it from but it was xdrit.exe or xdarit.exe. Search your harddrive and delete if you recently downloaded rom editing tools.
This virus is launched by clicking the .exe file, after executing the virus loads a sound file that plays a stupid laugh in mediaplayer, it copies 2 files into your startup folder, prompts you with a text telling you that you have been infected and to reboot to save yourself or some b.s. like that, so when you reboot it executes itself from your windows startup folder.
Check your startup folder and delete! if you get it.
It did delete my ntldr. and a couple of other files, had to do a repair with my windows cd.
Antivirus did not detect it! It looks to be a simple script from some moron script kitty!
Anyway I am up and running again with no loss to speak of but a little time.
Found the text file, this is the message in it:
Hello! upon reading this message your computer is starting to shutdown
Your Data Link Library is going to destroy, all your files say goddbye...
Did you know that some programs are cute and stealth like this, amazing isn't it...
ARE YOU READY TO THIS DISASTER!!!
Very Important Reason Unless Shutdown
Hi,
I can't find a file on our ftp with a name that looks like what you specified.
If someone knows the exact name or finds the file please let me or a moderator know and we'll remove it.
Greetz,
Flar
I just assume everything on the FTP site is suspect now. There have been too many virus attacks lately, especially after last weeks slashdotting over the iPhone skin. Most are just malicious scripts that your virus scanner will ignore.
Hi guys thought I'd post this warning maybe one of you can delete the file.
I downloaded and run it, it deleted my boot information, replaced windows files and deleted most exe files.
Unfortunately I cannot access the ftp server at the moment, but it was an installer for windows live for pocketpc.
Hope no one else has this problem...
SAME HERE!!!!!
/Uploads/Temp/Install_WLM.exe is a virus.... Thank god it happened to me at work and I could take a new pc from shelf, but seriously GET RID of that file!
Thanks for the warning and sorry that it happened to you.
As stated the FTP uploads is open and anybody can put anything on it, we seem to have a few board people around that think they are clever.
I have had a look for something that reads like what you posted but had no luck. So based on that I need bit more help to find and delete that file.
Ok its gone. Thanks for the file name, you managed to post before me.
Thanks, I just hope the other Install WLM exe's are clean, I've seen a few around on the FTP.
As long as no one has to go through what I did!
do you know what the filesize was? maybe we can compare to the others and find the malicious ones...
Afraid not, maybe MDAIIIUser knows, if he deleted the one in the temp dir?
Saying that, I know the cab of WLM is good, so if you really wanted to, you could get rid of all the Install WML .exe's? Better safe than sorry...
virus
it's also hidden as 'Limewire Pro real' or something similar, almost got caught out!
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Hi Guys,
there was also a virus thread in the BA section, i merged it with this one to get a better overview.
Greetz,
Flar
i had deleted the limewire one the other day off the FTP... it was one of those files that just didnt belong...
Virus Heaven
I too made the mistake of downloading a damn Virus form the FTP Site yesterday!
Worse thing was.. I was the one who posted the CLEAN version of the install_WLM.exe file!
So.. I decided to repost my threaded apps to my own website. www.web4malta.com/xda-developers/windowslive-ppc2005_arm.rar
Sorry guys but the FTP free-for-all access has to stop!
I dont know what hosting you guys have, however.. I would like to make a suggestion!
CHANGE THE DAMN UPLOAD LOGIN AND PASSWORD..............
Make a thread... FTP uploads...
Get people to post stuff onto there...
every day or so let an admin (or designate a few volunteers!) to move stuff from the attachments folder to the correct place on the FTP site.
or JUST LEAVE THE DAMN STUFF ATTACHED!
We will then know who is posting crap!
The Rom "guru's" should all have a more "higher" level of FTP anyhows.. Mamiach, Xplode, Logout ETC...
They can post stuff onto their bit of the FTP if needed...
Xda developers is becoming a place that is know for Trashed FTP sites, and Virus's in every second download... Something really needs to be done!
And I KNOW this post is harsh... But hey.. we all appreciate that none of get paid for doing what we do with PPC's and we all have Real Jobs... However.. It just infuriates me that someone has found a way to (insert 4 letter word beginning with F here)-up the FTP site OVER AND OVER again!
I just go through now and delete stuff off it, If i know its a virus.. or rename it to THIS-IS-A-VIRUS.exe The problem is the "free for all" uploading scheme,... Nice in an ideal world..Stoopid in this one!
Juggs.
i agree we need to look a this issue urgently....this has to stop.
Some stalkers wants to makes us down!!!
i lost all my files, i've downloaded a file from ftp site and i dont know what happens next. i think what can we do about it? can we possibly change the rules in xda-developers? Thanks to all of the software developers here by the way.
And another one bites the dust!
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i lost all my files, i've downloaded a file from ftp site and i dont know what happens next. i think what can we do about it? can we possibly change the rules in xda-developers? Thanks to all of the software developers here by the way.
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I have been inundated with Emails from people....
Another person just posted that they lost their machine due to infected files yesterday!
Admins. I Implore you do do something about this... Just shut the Uploads section off.. change the passwords.. move everything into a subfolder and post a great big README.txt file in the FTP root!
There must be something you can do before more people lose their PC's !
Theres not much of a way to keep the FTP site open access and stop bad people. I guess the best way would be to have each user account used for FTP access also, with guest users not being able to upload.
A more complex system might be to somehow acquire virtual machine software and an old pc, having someone run each new exe thats added to the FTP site and checking for any malicious activity, classifying it as virus or not. Since most of these viruses are little scripts that some F*** comes up with, I believe most of the antivirus software doesnt pick it up (avast sure didnt!).
Then you could have the fun of creating a database with file info and banning every new user who attempts to upload a virus.
Anyone with me for an over complicated solution?!
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Admins. I Implore you do do something about this... Just shut the Uploads section off.. change the passwords.. move everything into a subfolder and post a great big README.txt file in the FTP root!
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We have 2 threads on this subject, a wiki page explaining what is open and what is shut.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
Common sense tells everybody that they need to be careful with what they execute if they have downloaded it form the internet. and and and.
At the moment we have 2 choices, have a ftp or not have a ftp.
Sure we could have a login system,
we could have a person that verifies the files,
we could have a change control process.
Fact is this is not a commercial site in as a few if any of us get paid for being here or typing what ever you are reading now.
So as you see we are bound, bound by donations, bound by infrastructure needs, bound by support requirements that can't be met.
Now if anybody wants to commit to being a FTP admin, to being on line at least 2 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year (like or users) to verifying that every file is what it says it is, works and has a readme.txt added to (as requested), I will be MORE than happy to give them the FTP password. Oh did I mention that you have to do this for free ???.
If this is not the case then we all have to wait until the donation system and the advertisements generate enough revenue for hire that person and buy the needed software.
With that though in mind.... (donations)
i volunteer to sort help man/mod/whatever u need me to do with the ftp (or anything else for that matter, I've just finished my exams so i have free time again
I noticed that the site, as well as having forums and a wiki, has its own FTP server that's open to users. Just in case people didn't know, it might be a good way to get useful, free software to users without using rapidshare and services like that.
If there's a historical reason why people don't use it, I wouldn't mind knowing that too.
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I noticed that the site, as well as having forums and a wiki, has its own FTP server that's open to users. Just in case people didn't know, it might be a good way to get useful, free software to users without using rapidshare and services like that.
If there's a historical reason why people don't use it, I wouldn't mind knowing that too.
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you talk about it now act apon it give us the FTP IP address.
It's in the wiki. There's not much in the Excalibur directory right now. That's why I asked.
Edit: Did some homework on the FTP site. It seems someone totaled it back in '06 and it hasn't been the same since. The Kaiser guys use it more than anyone else, but the way it's set up, uploaders send files to an upload section and a moderator moves the approved files into the available-for-download section. From this perspective, I guess things like rapidshare and mediafire would be better options for people getting software out. It's just not always so obvious which characters have the damned cat on them.
Great stuff so far on there, you guys rock!
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It's in the wiki. There's not much in the Excalibur directory right now. That's why I asked.
Edit: Did some homework on the FTP site. It seems someone totaled it back in '06 and it hasn't been the same since. The Kaiser guys use it more than anyone else, but the way it's set up, uploaders send files to an upload section and a moderator moves the approved files into the available-for-download section. From this perspective, I guess things like rapidshare and mediafire would be better options for people getting software out. It's just not always so obvious which characters have the damned cat on them.
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On the other hand you can pm myself, lukybandit or mikey1022 the rapidshare link and one of us will "take one for the team" and deal with the kitty cats for the purpose of putting it on the ftp.... or course only as long as the upload is necessary
I was just thinking it would save hunting through threads or asking "can you give me a link to that file?" or "that link's expired" or "rapidshare says my max has been reached for free users" etc. etc.
In this way, just like most of the pertinent information is"check the wiki," finding the right file in a hurry would be "check out the ftp site!"
But yeah, it's a little more work for all parties involved just to have everything in one, easy-to-find place.
EDIT: The link for the download section is ftp://xda:[email protected]/smartphones/Excalibur
The login/password given for the upload section (xdaupload:xda) doesn't seem to be working.
I was thinking along the lines of supporting the FTP site awhile back when I discovered the Wiki. Seems like it would be a more logical way to store Excaliber files. I had major problems trying to upload and finally gave up. Maybe your thread will get the FTP going.