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TomTom5

Chaps/Ladies (do we have any?!),
I've been using TT5 for a couple of weeks now, and have a strange problem! Every now and then, randomly, TT5 will just exit whilst navigating. I drove 170 miles yesterday and it closed itself four times, the phone was off on three of the four occasions, as was wifi and BT.
I've also had it freeze once or twice. The display just stops updating, though I can still tap the screen and exit cleanly. This used to happen more frequently with TT3.
I've only run TT5 on the new 1.40 ROM.
Anyone else suffering?
TIA
Dan

I have the same problem. Also running 1.40, tomtom sometimes just exists

d3vil said:
I have the same problem. Also running 1.40, tomtom sometimes just exists
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Argh! Another quirk. I think I'm gonna sell my XDA2s on Ebay, and buy a map, a diary, and a Nokia 1110. :lol:

I use TT5 daily & have never had a problem with it exiting. The display occasionally freezes, butI think I can put this down to when the traffic info is being updated because it only happens occasionally & it unfreezes after about 30 seconds or so

weasel said:
I use TT5 daily & have never had a problem with it exiting. The display occasionally freezes, butI think I can put this down to when the traffic info is being updated because it only happens occasionally & it unfreezes after about 30 seconds or so
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Are you on the same ROM as us, 1.40? I don't use TomTom Traffic, so that can't be related to my problem.
Thanks for replying
Dan

Off topic
I have a question and it's off topic (sorry guys) Can you use TomTom 5 for just driving directions? Do you need to have the GPS unit?

Are you on the same ROM as us, 1.40? I don't use TomTom Traffic, so that can't be related to my problem.
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I'm on a "standard" O2 UK ROM
ROM 1.31.00 WWE dated 13 December 2004
Radio 1.06
ExtROM 1.31.139 WWE

I have a question and it's off topic (sorry guys) Can you use TomTom 5 for just driving directions? Do you need to have the GPS unit?
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My experience is that TomTom 5 will not start calculating a route without a valid GPS device attached - I'm just going to verify that though

I have a question and it's off topic (sorry guys) Can you use TomTom 5 for just driving directions? Do you need to have the GPS unit?
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Well that shows how much I know about TomTom 5 . It is definitely possible to generate driving instructions without a GPS device attached 8) .
Go into the "Advanced Planning" option and simply pick your start and end points. You will then have a route that you can display as text, images etc, or even "demo" the route i.e. simulate it at speeds from 10% to 500% of "real time"

to: efcmandan
I had same problem. Try to switch off showing a POI. I switch it off and TT5 works fine.

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Panther16 said:
I had same problem. Try to switch off showing a POI. I switch it off and TT5 works fine.
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Ah right Which POI? Or just all POI's?
Thanks
Dan

I switch off all POI.

Thank you.
Thanks Weasel. I'll go ahead and load TomTom5 before my GPS arrives.

I have an XDA IIs with TT3, after i first installed it noticed it would crash randomly, which became really really annoying. After messing around with settings and 3rd-party software, i got nowhere. So I removed the **** O2 software that comes with the IIs, low and behold no more crashing.
Is this also the case for TT5, I would like to know before upgrading?
Don't really want to have to turn off the POI's to make it work.

This is all pretty interesting. I'm running a 1.40 O2 ROM and TomTom is not-as-stable-as-it-could-be. I'm going to do some more qualitative analysis to try and work out which of the crappy O2 software is the culprit - or if it's TomTom itself.
We've got quite a few XDAIIs here and both of the ones with TomTom are flakey. More details to follow...
[edit] Should have said - this is TomTom Navigator 5, with both bluetooth and wired GPS receivers.

AFAIK, the O2 Active software produces a memory leak. There are suggestions that TTN5 also produces a memory leak on 640x480 VGA devices. Perhaps the two are interacting? (Yes I know the XDA2s isn't VGA). Try monitoring available RAM while TTN5 is running. If it constantly reduces it will reach a point where the s/w crashes.

Where are we?
@ all:
Anyone know a solution to this problem? Apparently we need to use the POI.dat file from earlier installations, i.e. 4 or 3 and it will only crash 1% of the time. Until there is a patch for this we will have to settle for this solution it seems.
BTW, does anyone happen to have the POI.dat file for the Benelux map, version 3 or 4? I seem to have "misplaced" my cd with the map on it, anyone can help a brutha out? PM me?
Cheers in advance!

I've switched off POI ( that's NP for dutch users ) so it's stable now.
Any word on the arrival of a patch for this problem?

poi.dat
resolved poi.
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/TomTom5/poi.dat

FTP link does not work
Can you provide me with the above link that works please?

XDA Orbit Stalling

Hi, We are a taxi company in Dublin, Ireland that use O2 XDA to communicate with our dispatch servers using GPRS. We run a windows mobile 5 approved application on the XDAs. We currently have our software running on XDA 2is and Mini S and it runs without any issues.
We are trying to mirgate to XDA Orbits as they have built in GPS receiver. There is one problem - After about 7 days of the XDA Orbit running our application it suddenly just stalls. The OS goes into a stalled state and it could take 3 minutes toget into the setting tab. Doing soft reset will not fix this problem. When device restarts after a soft reset it still runs very slow.
When you access the Settings Tab after some time if you change the GPS Port to "None" the device all of a sudden returns back to normal operating fast!
Our software developers our using the same software on the HTC Artemis and they say they do not have this problem. Can anyone suggest what might be the issue as we have reported this to O2 and they have never heard of something like this issue before.
Thanks

Bluetooth problems with Audi UHV Car Kit

Dear xda community,
at the moment I am running Pays 1.20 Rom on my Hermes in connection with an Audi UHV Car Kit.
There some maijor roblems connecting these 2, because after the phone enters sleep mode (normally 3 mins) during call the car kit looes connection. This is extrem annoying and I would be pleased if anyone here has a solution for me.
I definitly can say the problem comes with the suspend mode! There is no problem if the phone enters sleep mode while there is no call.. BT is stable then.
I also tried "Jetware mobile" but this only has effect on its speed nothing to deal with the problem itself.
I also found a programm called ozbt with can keep the pda and bloototh on during an active window, but setting it to the window "phone" it keeps pda alive but after call its not switching back witch means -> huge battery drain!
So if someone has an idea how to set the phone to always on, backlights off but you can see the dialpad during call, and after call back to sleep mode i would be happy.
Greetings,
fire

Same problem, found solution
I used to have the same problem with with some cokeed roms. Then I use the htc official wm6 rom with no problem at all. Now
I am ussing now schap´s 4.30 wwe with the same good results.

I too have had problems with some of the cooked ROMs and my 2006 A4 Bluetooth connectivity when the phone goes to suspend mode. My suggestion is to find another ROM or another version of that ROM.
I can't recall which ROMs gave me this problem, but a flash to a different ROM always solves the problem with the Audi UHV. My current ROM is great for the car!!

I have the same problem with my Skoda Octavia and Pays 1.20. A lot of disconnections. Sometimes it connects and immediatly disconnects. It's the same like with the WM 5 roms.
With the "original" WM 6 rom from T-mobile I don't have these issues.
Do the cooked roms use different stacks or bluetooth drivers?
Regards,
Moritz

stangeek said:
I too have had problems with some of the cooked ROMs and my 2006 A4 Bluetooth connectivity when the phone goes to suspend mode. My suggestion is to find another ROM or another version of that ROM.
I can't recall which ROMs gave me this problem, but a flash to a different ROM always solves the problem with the Audi UHV. My current ROM is great for the car!!
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ok now I tried the original german rom from HTC, and surprise surprise it works! So the original roms are not that bad after all! Thanks for this tip I got bit frustrated after Shaps 4.30 and Pays 1.20! Thanks for the great Info again.
@ stangeek what version do you use ?

[Samsung i780] GPS cannot fix on any satelites

Hi,
I am new here and just bought an i780 in S'pore 4 weeks ago, running on i780DXHD1 (Radio + PDA). I have been trying to use the GPS for weeks using the bundled NavFone but it always could not fix on any satelites. In the signal strength, there is no single bar appear. I tried MapKing, it is the same. When i checked on MapKing GPS data stream, it is always empty. when i checked on the dailpad, the GPS logo is active(not crossed). When i turn off the GPS application, the GPS logo is inactive (crossed). With this, can i assume the GPS hardware is working? But why no data stream? I have tried turning on XTRA, but it is the same. Below is my configuration:
[NavFone]
Software Port GDP1:
Hardware port COM9:
baud 4800
Windows managed: yes/checked
[MapKing(trial)]
Software Port COM8:
Hardware port COM9:
baud 4800
windows managed: yes/checked
Please help.... Thanks!

co6ra said:
Hi,
I am new here and just bought an i780 in S'pore 4 weeks ago, running on i780DXHD1 (Radio + PDA). I have been trying to use the GPS for weeks using the bundled NavFone but it always could not fix on any satelites. In the signal strength, there is no single bar appear. I tried MapKing, it is the same. When i checked on MapKing GPS data stream, it is always empty. when i checked on the dailpad, the GPS logo is active(not crossed). When i turn off the GPS application, the GPS logo is inactive (crossed). With this, can i assume the GPS hardware is working? But why no data stream? I have tried turning on XTRA, but it is the same. Below is my configuration:
[NavFone]
Software Port GDP1:
Hardware port COM9:
baud 4800
Windows managed: yes/checked
[MapKing(trial)]
Software Port COM8:
Hardware port COM9:
baud 4800
windows managed: yes/checked
Please help.... Thanks!
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co6ra,
First off, you need to stand in an open space before you activate your GPS. I uses Agis software too, and based on my experience when you use it the first time, the signal tends to get a little longer than usual. At times, it can even be over 10 minutes before I get a signal.
To assist your time to get the signal, I would advise you to use the Enhanced GPS found in your settings>system. Clicked on the enhanced gps and select Enable in the XTRA Enable. There is no need to select Auto Download (that is, Disable).
This would mean that the device will also use the base stations to assist in finding the location of your device. Of course the downside to it is you will incur GPRS charges.
Try it and see if you can get the signal.

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g00ndu said:
co6ra,
First off, you need to stand in an open space before you activate your GPS. I uses Agis software too, and based on my experience when you use it the first time, the signal tends to get a little longer than usual. At times, it can even be over 10 minutes before I get a signal.
To assist your time to get the signal, I would advise you to use the Enhanced GPS found in your settings>system. Clicked on the enhanced gps and select Enable in the XTRA Enable. There is no need to select Auto Download (that is, Disable).
This would mean that the device will also use the base stations to assist in finding the location of your device. Of course the downside to it is you will incur GPRS charges.
Try it and see if you can get the signal.
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply. For the past 4 weeks, i have been trying all sort of methods; standing at my aprtment balcony, in an open field, in a bus, windows seat, etc. all with at least 30 minutes. When i was at home, i stood at the balcony, turn on my wifi, and kept downloading the XTRA. Sometimes, i cannot see any bar at all; sometimes, i saw a lot of bars, with different PRN number, but all empty (strength 0), and kept changing, but still no fix...
help....~~

i have the same problem too until I download a software call GPSgate, there after I am uable to use my gps, I do not have the link , try seaching on the web.

vincal said:
i have the same problem too until I download a software call GPSgate, there after I am uable to use my gps, I do not have the link , try seaching on the web.
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I thought GPSGate is some kind of port sharing program? Both NavFone and MapKing is able to connect to the GPS unit, it just could not fix. Is it possible that the GPS is locked?
Anyhow, will try on GPSGate later. What is the recommended configuration?....
Thanks!

Installed GPSGate, and found that now MapKing is able to connect to the port and receive data. When i check on the GPS stream, it always appear to have the first line with data(some figures deliminated with ","), but follows by a few line with empty data (no figure, but a lot of ","). When i checked GPSGate, the status of the input port is always "GPS data but no position". I have tried just now in an open space, clear night sky, for at 40 mins, it still cannot fix on any satelite....
Help!...is this something to do with hardware?

Hello,
I've got the same pb. No gps fix and no satellite. I've tried with gpsproxy, portsplitter. No way : no signal...
My phone version :
PDA : i780dxhe1
PHONE : i780puhe1
Rom : EFN WM6.1 - 3.3XG

alex16s said:
Hello,
I've got the same pb. No gps fix and no satellite. I've tried with gpsproxy, portsplitter. No way : no signal...
My phone version :
PDA : i780dxhe1
PHONE : i780puhe1
Rom : EFN WM6.1 - 3.3XG
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I just tried gpsproxy, it still does not solve my issues.
Where did you buy your unit? I am thinking of sending back to samsung. If i am sending back, this will be the first and last samsung unit that i am using...

co6ra said:
I just tried gpsproxy, it still does not solve my issues.
Where did you buy your unit? I am thinking of sending back to samsung. If i am sending back, this will be the first and last samsung unit that i am using...
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Since you have not flashed to any custom rom (I hope you did not) why not send your device back to the SSC and lodge a complain that the GPS is not working at all.
If they say nothing is wrong, ask them to demonstrate that the GPS is able to lock in the signals.
I know it is frustrating to have features and yet not working. It can be a case of hardware issue. Let's see how the SSC can help you, since yours is still under warranty.
I wish you would be able to solve your GPS issue. i780 is still a great phone. Let us know how it goes, okay?

ya...i am travelling now and expect the GPS to work....should have not trust it will work out from box. will visit the SSC when i am back to S'pore 3 weeks later....

co6ra said:
ya...i am travelling now and expect the GPS to work....should have not trust it will work out from box. will visit the SSC when i am back to S'pore 3 weeks later....
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In the meantime, just keep on trying, if you have time to spare. Who knows? You might have it resolved by then.
All the best... And good luck...

hi,
I just enable the log in NavFone and here is how it looks:
$GPGSV,2,1,05,07,20,040,,26,68,205,,04,00,111,,14,37,310,*75
$GPGSV,2,2,05,25,23,045,*4B
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*32
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K*4E
$GPGSV,2,1,05,07,20,040,,26,68,205,,04,00,111,,14,37,310,*75
$GPGSV,2,2,05,25,23,045,*4B
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*32
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K*4E
$GPGSV,2,1,05,07,20,040,,26,68,205,,04,00,111,,14,37,310,*75
$GPGSV,2,2,05,25,23,045,*4B
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*32
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K*4E
$GPGSV,2,1,08,07,20,040,,26,68,205,,04,00,111,,14,37,310,*78
$GPGSV,2,2,08,25,23,045,,22,28,187,,12,37,299,,13,49,299,*7A
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*32
$GPVTG,,T,,M,,N,,K*4E
According to http://gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm, GGA is one of the most important stream to provide location data. From the log, it seems like the GPS is not able to calculate the current location at all? What is wrong with the GPS unit???...
Ya...i have been trying to put the GPS on everytime i am outside, in total, i think i have tested no less than 10 hours, but still no luck....

co6ra,
From the looks of your log file, it seems that your GPS chipset might not be working. Those coordinates that you have should come from the base station of the phone.
I tried it indoor, and it seems that there are satellites showing, but just could not get a fix on it too (But then, I was indoor).
Your log file might be useful, especially when you bring your unit back to SSC for service.
P/S: My settings are as follows:
Enhanced GPS XTRA is enabled but Auto Download is disabled.
When running NavFone, my settings are as follows:
Don't worry about the external GPS settings, just leave it as it is.
I will feedback later when I am on the balcony. Please be patient.
Update:
Log of my GPS Data:
$GPGSA,A,3,13,17,20,23,,,,,,,,,,7.5,4.6,5.9*15
$GPVTG,,T,,M,0.0,N,0.0,K*4E
$GPGSV,3,1,12,07,66,357,,08,28,336,14,11,68,046,18,13,42,213,20*7C
$GPGSV,3,2,12,17,24,257,27,19,07,028,,20,24,143,30,23,27,175,25*7A
$GPGSV,3,3,12,25,81,061,,27,55,338,15,28,04,315,17,32,13,119,18*76
$GPGGA,095555.0,0119.614273,N,10352.209341,E,1,04,4.5,38.5,M,,,,*39
$GPRMC,095555.0,A,0119.614273,N,10352.209341,E,,,150808,,,A*67
$GPGSA,A,3,13,17,20,23,,,,,,,,,,7.5,4.5,5.9*16
$GPVTG,,T,,M,0.0,N,0.0,K*4E
$GPGSV,3,1,12,07,66,357,,08,28,336,14,11,68,046,18,13,42,213,22*7E
$GPGSV,3,2,12,17,24,257,28,19,07,028,,20,24,143,30,23,27,175,25*75
$GPGSV,3,3,12,25,81,061,,27,55,338,15,28,04,315,17,32,13,119,18*76
$GPGGA,095556.0,0119.616592,N,10352.210679,E,1,04,4.5,44.5,M,,,,*3D
$GPRMC,095556.0,A,0119.616592,N,10352.210679,E,,,150808,,,A*68
Yes, what you said is true, the GGA data is the coordinates of your device and determine your location.

I have sent the same log to Agis and Samsung via emails. Waiting for their reply. Hopefully they can solve this by next week, so that i can use it when i need it most as i am travelling to Malaysia now.
BTW, do you guys think that this might be a locked GPS? Anybody has any ideas? If so, how to unlock?

Locked? what do you mean? It shouldn't be and it should work right out of the box.

i am not sure also...read few article on locked GPS topic, which they key in a code to unlock/activate the gps unit.

No luck. Samsung Singapore support does not even want to reply to my email....
Just happen that one of my colleagues travelled to my local office. Has switched back to my old BenQ P50 and let my colleague to bring down the unit back to Samsung S'pore. They claim that it might be a software issue and saying that they are going to flash the latest ROM to see if it helps.

g00ndu said:
Locked? what do you mean? It shouldn't be and it should work right out of the box.
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Hi,
I notice that u r using the cooked ROM. Did you backup the original ROM before flashing the cooked ROM? If so, how do you backup?

alex16s said:
Hello,
I've got the same pb. No gps fix and no satellite. I've tried with gpsproxy, portsplitter. No way : no signal...
My phone version :
PDA : i780dxhe1
PHONE : i780puhe1
Rom : EFN WM6.1 - 3.3XG
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I went through this same thing, I now have Tomtom7 running perfectly and getting a fix in seconds.
It is highly important that you have a working Sim card, correct GPRS or EDGE settings and that XTRA is Enabled!
Use GPS Gate stock settings! ie. prior to running GPS Gate goto External GPS and select com2, then run GPS Gate and use the wizard and let it find Com2.
GPRS/EDGE should try to connect automatically if not then switch it on, exit and restart GPS Gate. Be patient on the first fix it can take 5 mins, it should not take this long though.
Wait until GPS Gate shows that dark green icon in app tray and has a valid position, once it does then execute your GPS software and use (Franson Virtual com 1) default comport generated by GPS Gate.
GPRS/EDGE can be turned off after GPS Gate shows that it has your position and this need only be done once. This has worked on Omnia after many many hours of failure and frustration.

GPS not workign

Hello together,
i have my desire now since nearly two month. Im relly happy with the phone. But one problem:
GPS is not working, i don't get a GPS fix.
It didn't work as I had the phone completely new neither now after i rooted it. I already tried a couple of different radios but my phone doesn't find any satelites.
Does anybody else has the problem? Is this just a software bug or is the hardware damaged?
If I have to send it back to HTC, do you know how long does it take till i get my phone back? Im based in germany.
Thank you very much for your help!
best regards
Tom

I only have my desire 2 days now, it has a orange uk branded phone, so I unbranded it to a stock htc rom, and I have the same problem as you, it takes ages to lock a gps signal.
Today it took 30minutes to lock the gps signal on my ndrive.

I don't have a problem with my GPS on my Orange debranded Desire, what ROM are you debranding with?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I use this one because of the portuguese language:
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11_release_121684.exe
Do you use any program to help catch the gps signal?
Regards

I lost mine with a radio update, had to use 32.30.00.28U_405.00.11 to get GPS working again. Which radio do you have?

NDrive has problems locking with the Desire's GPS. Launch NDrive, press home button, enable the GPS and goto NDrive again. That works for me most of the times.
Or use Google Maps to get a fix and then launch NDrive.

panosx said:
NDrive has problems locking with the Desire's GPS. Launch NDrive, press home button, enable the GPS and goto NDrive again. That works for me most of the times.
Or use Google Maps to get a fix and then launch NDrive.
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Thanks, i will try that, as soon as I can I will report if it works.
Thanks again

I tried it with these radios:
32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11
32.37.00.32U_4.06.00.16_2
32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04
And with none of them I got GPS fix.
I tried it also with differnt applications:
Google Maps
Navigon
GPS Status
GPS Test
But without success, no GPS fix at all
Oh by the way, i tried it also with the Stock ROM and with OpenDesire 1.4 and OpenDesire 1.5
€: I use now OpenDesire 2.1 with the newest Radio 32.42.00.32U_5.09.00.08
I still don't have any chance to find a satelite. Has anyone an idea to fix the problem?

i don't know if it's allowed on this board, i just wanted to push my message to the first page, after it was now on page 15. Perhaps anyone has an idea about fixing the problem.
Thank you!

All that worked for me was trying the radio I had originally (before I started playing around). You tried any of the older ones?

Hi,
I also now have a problem with GPS fix. First I have overheating & reboot problem, then MB were replaced & now I can't get fix (no satellites at view at all). I hope that this is software related (although I do not use GPS much). So probably somebody knew how to perform cold reboot of GPS sensor (I perform this with previous Touch Diamond to bring GPS back to life)?