connect an harddisk to the Universal?? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading

hi all
im new to this forum. and im thinking of buying an mda pro (aka htc universal) however i would like to have an external HD attached to it
so my question is:
could i use my creative zen touch 20gb mp3 player (like ipod) to connect with the mda pro if i were to have the cable for it?
the zen touch is an MTP (media tranfer protocol) device and WMP10Mobile also supports MTP..
i tried the search but found nothing relevant
any help is appreciated

In a word, No.
Sorry you can't do what you want to. The Universal would need a USB Host controller, which it does not have. You would need to rewire the motherboard and add some software to get this. So you can forget that until you can find a SD USB Host controller, of which there are zero.
Closest you can come is adding a Wi-Fi hard drive, as of now.
Sorry

where I can find wifi hard drive?

http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/usbmassstoragedriver.shtml
Try it and let us know if it works...

if you read exactly... its ONLY for old Toshiba PPCs and they have an official USB Host port 8)

hanantor said:
where I can find wifi hard drive?
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Well if you can wait then look at http://www.edslab.com/products.htm
if you need it now then look at http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=12&l2=44&l3=0&model=460&modelmenu=1

if you read exactly... its ONLY for old Toshiba PPCs and they have an official USB Host port
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are you kidding me dude? there is no such mention...
Requirements:
• Pocket PC 2002
Description:
The long awaited USB mass Storage driver for PocketPC 2002.
This is a driver which enables you to use USB mass storage devices (HD, multimedia Reader, digital camera) with your USB host enabled PocketPC.
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try not to post misinformation... and btw there is no such thing as a USB HOST PORT... it's all in the software...

ady said:
if you read exactly... its ONLY for old Toshiba PPCs and they have an official USB Host port
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are you kidding me dude? there is no such mention...
Requirements:
• Pocket PC 2002
Description:
The long awaited USB mass Storage driver for PocketPC 2002.
This is a driver which enables you to use USB mass storage devices (HD, multimedia Reader, digital camera) with your USB host enabled PocketPC.
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try not to post misinformation... and btw there is no such thing as a USB HOST PORT... it's all in the software...
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universal in "not" usb host enabled so...

ady said:
try not to post misinformation... and btw there is no such thing as a USB HOST PORT... it's all in the software...
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Lol, thats one of the stupidest things I have read on a forum.
There is definately more to USB host that software. Why else would most PPCs not have USB host as a feature, and why would USB host be a big mention when a device with it is released

well.. actually..
I'm an owner of both the qtek 9000 and the Pocket LOOX 720 (Fujitsu-siemens branded)
The loox hardware and the qtek are almost identical with the difference that the qtek has phone abbilities, and the loox dosen't. However, the loox does have officiall USB-host-features. (both have VGA, cam, 520 mhz, ear-speaker and both are made by HTC)
When you look at the registry and the USB drivers used, they are almost the same, but with the usbmsc.dll added on the loox.
And.. since the usb-host feature is in the
PXA27X processor and not an external chip, the only reason why the universal not should have usb-host features is if they changed something in the wireing from the processor core...
I would love to tryout and see if I get this to work, but I can't seem to be able to copy that dll from the loox. And since I'm on vacation in thailand, my tools is abit limited.
Does anybody know if there is an easy way of copying a dll-file which is in ROM and in use?
best regards
// LOMF
(pardon my typos, It's 40 degrees celsius in here... and for a swede like me, that's very hot)

try to use the internal file manager to copy the file. You will get better results than with resco. You also need the correct registry settings for this to (eventualy) work.

ady said:
if you read exactly... its ONLY for old Toshiba PPCs and they have an official USB Host port
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are you kidding me dude? there is no such mention...
Requirements:
• Pocket PC 2002
Description:
The long awaited USB mass Storage driver for PocketPC 2002.
This is a driver which enables you to use USB mass storage devices (HD, multimedia Reader, digital camera) with your USB host enabled PocketPC.
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try not to post misinformation... and btw there is no such thing as a USB HOST PORT... it's all in the software...
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I don't thinks calvin42 is posting misinformation. He just know thinks better than you. This driver have been developped by deje a few years ago. They were most of the time in a beta stage, and working only on the toshiba, until deje work was bought by a hard disk maker, selling the driver with the hard disk. This kind of stopped the project. The drivers you can still find are only the beta version, and the final version ahs to be bought either with a HD, or for a few dollars.
Back to our subject, you should understand WM5 has a fairly different way of mapping the hardware than WM2003, so they are very remote chances for a WM2003 driver to work on WM5, furthermore for a WM2002 driver.
Oh! and BTW, Usb host is a feature of the processor. It can be disabled by the manufacturer. So yes, there is a USB host port.

You mean qtek9000 and others DO HAVE usb host but disabled??
It looks weird.. why disabling such important feature?

the intel bulverde has usb host. Hardware manufactured decide to support it or not. They heve their how reason, and this is probably not for pissing us up. I guess this feature is not driving the market.

What about using the SD interface as a connector for a drive? It's SD/IO isn't it? A friend has just got a 4gb PSP drive that connects through the memory stick slot on his PSP, something similar should work with the universal? (and other HTC devices that have SD and no USB
Richard

fluffcat1 said:
What about using the SD interface as a connector for a drive? It's SD/IO isn't it? A friend has just got a 4gb PSP drive that connects through the memory stick slot on his PSP, something similar should work with the universal? (and other HTC devices that have SD and no USB
Richard
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Yeah but thats converting one ATA memory card to another (similar to SD to CF adaptors). Its a passive adaptor. Converting to USB is a whole different thing.

mitchello said:
fluffcat1 said:
What about using the SD interface as a connector for a drive? It's SD/IO isn't it? A friend has just got a 4gb PSP drive that connects through the memory stick slot on his PSP, something similar should work with the universal? (and other HTC devices that have SD and no USB
Richard
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Yeah but thats converting one ATA memory card to another (similar to SD to CF adaptors). Its a passive adaptor. Converting to USB is a whole different thing.
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But you could still get an SD HDD - so it's a possibilty, I didn't mean convert memory stick into SD!
Richard

Well, i'm confused... if bluverde has USB-Host, this means it's just disabled in JJ/9000. So we have just to enable it somehow..
Right?

playerkiller said:
Well, i'm confused... if bluverde has USB-Host, this means it's just disabled in JJ/9000. So we have just to enable it somehow..
Right?
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wrong if it's hardware disabled.

Uhm, how's something HW disabled in ppc?
In normal PCs usually a jumper makes the difference. What in PPC platform? (i'm not an electronical engineer)..

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PDA2K camera as WebCam

Hello,
can i use my pda2k cam as webcam ??
Thanks in advance for your replies...
No. I have read threads on this before (like on other forums I think) 'cos I got sick of carryin so many devices. It would be wicked if it could but I think the problem lies in the fact that the USB connection isn't quick enough.
I'm sure my SE P800 worked as a webcam :\ Perhaps I'm imaining things.
There is a way to make your Blue Angel work similar to a web cam. The program uploads a new image every x seconds to an FTP server using the integrated camera software.
You can create your own solution such as an HTML page that refreshes periodically to update the image. I think the software supplying a sample file. However, you cannot obtain a true live webcam experience.
If you need the software, PM me or I'll try attaching it here.
mike freegan said:
I'm sure my SE P800 worked as a webcam :\ Perhaps I'm imaining things.
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I got a USB camera for my girlfriend. You can get enough throughput from USB to support 640x480, but USB really does have to be at full throttle then. Anything more (like DV) and you're way out of the region USB can handle. You might well have managed it on your phone.
I can't see any reason why the Qtek 9090 *couldn't* support that, but I'm thinking it's a problem with how Pocket PCs are made accessible by Windows. I very much doubt the default ActiveSync drivers have an interface for it, and I don't really see the market for writing your own PPC driver for what is a niche request, especially when you can get very good web cams like the Logitech Quickcam 4000 for 60 quid.
Chris
I got several requests to send the software I used for webcam on PPC.
There are 2 programs I saw. One I tried and the other I didn't.
The program I tried is called Webcam for Pocket PC (PpcWebcam.zip) and its free. The other one is (MobileHomeCamPPC.exe).
I recommend you try the first one first, and it works great.
I attached the 2 files in one zip file.
The download page for PpcWebcam is http://www.zone1.de/latest.html and I guess there's a newer version but I provided a 100%-working one.
i get an error saying its not a valid win32 application, how do i get round this?? :?:
run
you must run the program in ppc NOT IN PC
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you must run the program in ppc NOT IN PC
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Sure, unless it's a setup file that installs thru ActiveSync.
try this one.... :wink:
RAGO :lol:
RAGOv
i have a PPC-6600 i know its not BA but i cant seems to get that one to run? any clue?

Universal (XDA Exec) exteranl Cd or DVD drive ?

Hi,
I'm sure this has been covered before, or is a silly question, but is there any way I can connect an external CD or DVD drive to my XDA Exec ?
Thanks, Huw
Pretty sure the answer is "almost no"
You can, within limitations, connect a hard disk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280062
Maybe you could run a CD/DVD ROM off the IDE controller in that? Although how the drivers would cope is anyone's guess.
Alcohol 52% in PDA?
There are some aplication like
"Alcohol 52% (CD & DVD emulation software capabilites) to a pc" for ours Xda Exec? Something to install in the storage card?
Thanks.
JeromeMorrow said:
There are some aplication like
"Alcohol 52% (CD & DVD emulation software capabilites) to a pc" for ours Xda Exec? Something to install in the storage card?
Thanks.
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By this u mean that v can attach a cd rom to exec.
What I am trying to say is:
if theres any posibility to execute any simple aplication (like a Iuris Dictionary or a Dictionary) under WM05... but simulating Windows xp (for example)....
Thanks
That's a very different question: like asking, if I paint a go-faster stripe on my car, can I fly to space like the Space Shuttle?
Mamaich has done some work on running Windows on the PDAs, but they can barely run their native OS fast enough, they're not really very good at emulating foreign OS. You'll be better off finding a native app that does the same job, if you can.
V
Yes thanks... The cds that I need, I don´t if they really need Xp or similar versions... but they need to be execute in my pc always in the cd or whit a iso image whit alcohol...
So if there is some thing to run a iso image in the pda will be fine...

alternative Bluetooth input device possible?

Hi guys,
i just want to discuss an idea I just had.
Im using my PPC mostly at the university. And since some time i was searching for an Input device I could write with and have the written stuff in a digital form when Im finished (e.g as a pdf File). This would not just minimize my paper consumption it would have some other benefits too (easy sharing etc.). Now, all the devices i`ve found use the mini USB Plug of an PPC. Since the Artemis is not capable acting as a USB Host these solutions do not work. I added a picture of such a device for better illustration.
Now the idea:
Yesterday a hack has been presented on www.hackaday.com (the direct link is below) to use a WiiMote (is a Bluetooth Device) as an Input device for an electronic Chalk-Board. Now this is an very impressive hack indeed. But could it be possible to use this particular hack in a small version for PPC`s to let the WiiMote work together with the Artemis (or any other Bluetooth equiped PPC) as an "electronic Paper" device. Just for your imagination:
- connect wiimote to Artemis then use an SMD IR Equiped Stylus to write on a paper
Im no good in coding so this is off for me... But maybe soemone could give a statement on if this can be done. I mean the software for Desktop Pcs does exist (follow the links on hakaday.com) they have "just" to be rewritten for WM6 PPCs.
Link to www.hackaday.com:
http://www.hackaday.com/2007/12/09/wiimote-projector-whiteboard/
Sorry for my bad english i hope you guys understand what I was trying to explain. Here is the picture of an conventional "electronic paper" system (found on www.pearl.de)
Regards
Jabami
I bought a Wiimote this week and a LED-array to do exactly that but for a desktop computer instead of a ppc. I've done some research on that topic and found no solution yet. Seems as if nobody is interested enough that has the knowledge and skills for porting or recompiling it for ppc.
Of course it's not really a cheap solution but you could buy a tablet pc. I bought one for my studies and I can write down my stuff and share it later on my website in "hand-written" format as mhtml, pdf or whatever. I got a Compaq TC1000, this model and the TC1100 are the only I'm aware of that can be used as slate and convertible tablet pcs at the same time. I installed my bluetooth stick on the TC1000 and it was too slow for the wiimote, or maybe the bluetooth stick, but I doubt that.
There are some reasons why I wouldn't use the wiimote for writing at university:
-As soon as the wiimote moves you have to calibrate again
-You need a good spot for it so it can see you hand all the time
-Probably needs 800 "Pentium" Mhz or more to work perfectly
In the videos I saw at johnnylee.net the wiimote was mounted over the guy that wrote on his e-paper. If you are not sitting in the middle of a room with hundreds of students then this might be a solution.
All the things you said are true, plus theres is one thing lee mentiones at the end of his YouTube Video. Its about the resolution you get. So all in all the conclusion is:
using the WiiMote as an electronic paper device will not work due to resolution restrictions.
Well but maybe there is some other way to tweak an Input device into the Bluetooth Interface of the Artemis....
Best regards
Jabami

TP2 and mice.....

Hi Folks,
I have wondering how to implement some kind of mousing on the TP2 since obviously it does lend itself to mini mini laptop activities. I did find a company called http://www.teksoftco.com which does a driver for bluetooth mice as well as USB optical mice.
Would it be wonderful if there was one of those spongy knobs in the middle of the keyboard for cursor manipulation like on those old IBM laptops.
Any comments, particularly the first bit.
Thanks,
Sam
Why would I want to install a mouse to the TP2? It's big enough already and having to drag around a mouse all the time where using the stylus is so much faster and easier? I don't really see the benefits of it....
I used to have a little BT mouse with my good old htc universal... great! simply great!! it would be nice to use it again with the TP2, but it's almost impossible to find the driver to download..and btw, would it work with wvga screens, or just regular qvga /vga ones??
@ kork: so little it's easy to lose it without noticing. a bunch of grams more, when I carry at work a bag of 3 4 kg is nothing noticeable
Hi cyberpunk,
I have jext got this from the tecksoftco site:
Name: BlueInput Driver for Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard
Version: 1.5.RC-4
Release date: November 5, 2008
Supported Platform: Pocket PC with Microsoft Bluetooth Stack / WM5.0 or newer / BT Mouse+Keyboard compatible
Supported Screen Size: SQUARE, SQUARE VGA, QVGA, VGA, WQVGA, WVGA (all)
So it looks positive... I will asks thought. Being from the UK I did a double take on "BT Mouse" thinking that it was sold by British Telecom(BT) but it is for "Bluetooth" - doh....
Sam
double post.... due to system hang
Kork said:
Why would I want to install a mouse to the TP2? It's big enough already and having to drag around a mouse all the time where using the stylus is so much faster and easier? I don't really see the benefits of it....
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If you had a wireless mouse and were using the TP2 for video-out presentation or video viewing duties, it could make life easier. Seems like a pretty niche need though.
There are apparently drivers that let you use the phone as a USB host rather than client, allowing you to hook up mice, keyboards and even external HDs. I'm not sure if anyone has had any success, there's mention of it in the tricks sticky post in this forum.
yep, but someone reported them as not working. not so much discussion about this though too bad, blame on ppc manufacturers who don't consider this function! it's so important when on the move!
@samjolly: thanks a lot mate! do you know if this driver works on TP2, and mostly important with an old "thinkoutside bluetooth travel mouse"? it used to have its own drivers shipped...but it's been 3 or 4 years since i purchased it! tried on omnia and didn't work, argh °_°
PS: I'm a bit scared of trying for first delicate things like drivers without having heard any positive feedback first
forgive me guys, but xda is slooooooooooow and keeps sending 2 copies of every message I post. must be something wrong with it.
SamJolly said:
Hi cyberpunk,
I have jext got this from the tecksoftco site:
Name: BlueInput Driver for Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard
Version: 1.5.RC-4
Release date: November 5, 2008
Supported Platform: Pocket PC with Microsoft Bluetooth Stack / WM5.0 or newer / BT Mouse+Keyboard compatible
Supported Screen Size: SQUARE, SQUARE VGA, QVGA, VGA, WQVGA, WVGA (all)
So it looks positive... I will asks thought. Being from the UK I did a double take on "BT Mouse" thinking that it was sold by British Telecom(BT) but it is for "Bluetooth" - doh....
Sam
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A note of caution; the TP2 doesn't use the Microsoft stack, unlike many other current HTC devices, that's why there are problems with some devices. I'm not saying it won't work but......
Gordon
GordonTGopher said:
A note of caution; the TP2 doesn't use the Microsoft stack, unlike many other current HTC devices, that's why there are problems with some devices. I'm not saying it won't work but......
Gordon
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Folks,
This was my response from TeckSoftCo:
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BlueInput is compatible with devices running Windows Mobile (minimum WM5.0) and that have the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack installed.
You can download a trial versin of BlueInput for free, from www.teksoftco.com and see if it runs well.
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So interesting point about TP2 apparently not using the MS BT stack which seems a bit weird.
Sam
thanks a lot to both samjolly and gordon for the useful info! I hope we'll be able to solve this mistery
cyberpunk627 said:
thanks a lot to both samjolly and gordon for the useful info! I hope we'll be able to solve this mistery
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dead thread, i see, but to answer last post, both the bluetooth and usb possibilities are there now on the teksoft site. looks like 10 euro for the usb hid driver, 15 for the broadcom bluetooth driver.

Windows Mobile & Remote Keyboard with Playstation 3...

Hi all, there is a new piece of software out released by Sony Corporation which enables and windows laptop or PC to interact with the PS3 via Blue-tooth.
What it does exactly is allow the keyboard and mouse, from your PC/laptop, to control the XMB and the web browser on the PS3.
What i was wondering is whether this application could be adapted to work with windows mobile? Could the .exe file be changed to a .cab file so we could install it on WinMo? Also, I Know WinMo phone's dont have mice, so i was wondering could the screen be used as one instead?
I know it's probably not as easy as I've put it, but could it be done?
You can't just convert an exe to a cab and hey presto, just an FYI.
Wrathlon said:
You can't just convert an exe to a cab and hey presto, just an FYI.
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Ha Ha, i know that. If only it were so easy. All i want to know is whether it can be done or whether its been done before? Oh and also whether a developer would be interested...
I can't believe nobody is interested?!
Check out MobileRemote.
Hi Indi89,
OH yes we do .. we do interested in this bluetooth connectivity .. pls do share more ... but i'm a developer, i'm just a user ...

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